Dolby Vision Streaming vs HDR10 4K Blu-ray Disc Comparison

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We compare Disney Plus streaming in Dolby Vision vs 4K Blu-ray movies in HDR10. Thanks to Surfshark VPN for sponsoring this video... go to surfshark.deals/HDTVTest - Enter promo code HDTVTest for 83% off and 3 extra months free.
Two calibrated LG CX OLED TVs were used for this comparison, one displaying Disney+ in Dolby Vision; the other displaying 4K Blu-ray discs in HDR10 from an OPPO 203 player.
To avoid spoilers in case you haven't watched any of the 6 titles used in this comparison video, here are the timestamps:
1:05 - Avengers Assemble
2:53 - The Lion King (2019)
3:44 - Deadpool 2
4:13 - Thor: Ragnorak
6:02 - Rogue One
6:27 - Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Out of six movies we watched, only "The Empire Strikes Back" and to a lesser extent "Deadpool 2" did not obviously benefit from Dolby Vision dynamic metadata.
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@MisterPikol 3 жыл бұрын

"it is not often that I get to see 2 bushes within minutes of each other" That's some Disney writing right there

@traceyclarkewz4093 3 жыл бұрын

My G

@oliverroggenbuck7824 3 жыл бұрын

It´s completely underrated how Vincent is able to say this line and remain totally serious. Incredible timeless Stand up Comedy !

@sjsphotog 2 жыл бұрын

@@oliverroggenbuck7824 +1000 VT is the MASTER of the super subtle innuendos :)

@leontiefmodell650 Жыл бұрын

When he was talking about macro-blocking in the bush in the Avengers for the first time, I knew he couldn't refuse...he came saw and conquered that joke XD

@fxandrei 3 жыл бұрын

Its great that you got to check 2 bushes within a few minutes of each other.

@WDeranged 3 жыл бұрын

*ding*

@86rattlehead 3 жыл бұрын

Truth be told, one of them exhibited slighly more macrobushing due to the heavier compression.

@thatdrh 3 жыл бұрын

Always check the bushes before entering the woods “ding”

@myvid222 3 жыл бұрын

In adherence to woke culture you are hereby banned by the KZfaq thought police for furthering the objectification of women.

@thatdrh 3 жыл бұрын

@@myvid222 Women? We’re talking about shrubbery!

@Horos_de_Vega 3 жыл бұрын

In summary: shame on Disney for not releasing their BD UHD with Dolby Vision. Thanks Vincent once again for the great content!

@Oldschoolgamerdad 3 жыл бұрын

This 🙌

@SpawnViper4 3 жыл бұрын

Obviously the reason is because they want to generate Disney+ revenue. They need to stop playing and release full collections of DV enabled Marvel Phase Bundles (All extras included).

@shoopypit4884 3 жыл бұрын

@@SpawnViper4 and imax switching. At least for the last two avengers movies.

@RobertK1993 3 жыл бұрын

Dolby Vision can't make streaming look sane 4K Ultra HD Blu ray disc

@robinanwaldt 3 жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: The only Disney 4K releases that have Dolby Vision are Black Panther and the first release of The Last Jedi.

@DR-xm9ck 3 жыл бұрын

"it's not often I get to check out two bushes within minutes of each other" Vincent, you're killing me with these one liners.

@Zebra66 3 жыл бұрын

I find that regular 1080p Blu Ray often looks better than 4k streaming services. It usually has a higher bitrate (less compression). It's a mistake to think of the resolution as being a measure of quality. When you encode video, quality and res are two different settings. Quality is related to compression which is why 2k DCi theater files are more detailed than UHD Blu Ray. Higher res just means you can sit closer before seeing pixels.

@TheRealGara Жыл бұрын

I'm right there with you. I toss most 2160p webrips if I get my hands on the 1080p bluray. Audio is always the big winner, but visually the higher bitrate always seems to win out over the 2160p webrips hdr10 or DV.

@Spidey_Pool85 Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealGara I love collecting blu-ray and recently got Avengers Endgame. I planned on watching the disc, but the digital code redeemed in 4k HDR. My question is, should I watch the stream just for the HDR, or stick with the blu ray for better bitrate and audio?

@cjsnowdon Жыл бұрын

@@Spidey_Pool85 just enjoy the movie 👍

@davidbenning10 Жыл бұрын

@@cjsnowdon Good advice. It’s time that we stop watching the screen quality and pay attention to the actual movies.

@Gurminder_S Жыл бұрын

1080 Blu-ray are encoded using AVC and 4K streams are HEVC. HEVC is twice as efficient so a bitrates of 1080 discs are half of the equivalent 4k. In terms of streaming a 20mbps 4k streams is equivalent of a 40mbps 1080 disc. So bitrate wise both have the same mbps.

@aim9491 3 жыл бұрын

Sound is what is tipping the scale towards blu ray for me. There is just no comparison between lossless atmos/dolby true hd or dtshd master and lossy dolby digital plus

@Lors111 3 жыл бұрын

This.

@Oldschoolgamerdad 3 жыл бұрын

Agree the biggest difference compared to streaming is sound now. But that difference is huge with a good sound system. There is no chance in hell that the lack of dolby vision on some disc will make me stream the dolby vision version with the current sound limitations still there. It is sad that we can't have the best of both.

@kencanette 3 жыл бұрын

I have an old receiver I got at a thrift store but it can only do DTS and Dolby digital buying a brand new one would be a huge upgrade?

@buganvilstudio 3 жыл бұрын

@@kencanette get one with dolby atmos. (And speakers for that too). Hearing rain coming from the ceiling feels super immersive. At least very cool to have. But not necessarily a game changer. Maybe hear one at a local store if possible.

@aim9491 3 жыл бұрын

@@kencanette you don't need to get a brand new one. Lossless dolby and dts have been around for a long time. If its got hdmi it probably supports all you need. Just get a used receiver from like 2016. Unless you want it for gaming with a new console in which case you might want to get a new one with earc or buy a thenaudio sharc and an old one. But the sharc is 150bucks alone

@BigBlobProductions 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a comparison between Dolby Vision and HDR10+

@danlah1303 3 жыл бұрын

Can’t understand the logic of not offering 4K Blu-ray with Dolby Vision but making it available on the streaming version

@bighands69 3 жыл бұрын

It should really show you what their intent is. They do not want to do physical media which people will own and control. Instead they are going to do streaming which means they control the source. There is a reason why the childrens books by Dr Seuss are being destroyed.

@zelko0768 3 жыл бұрын

They want to hook the gullible to an inferior product

@bighands69 3 жыл бұрын

@Steven Lee Everybody going to streaming will cause the collapse of Disney.

@alexanderulv3886 3 жыл бұрын

Why can’t we just have more high quality streaming

@debsattam1 2 жыл бұрын

Blu ray movies always look better even if compared to Dolby vision it's the HDR that mess everything up .

@TeeCee247 3 жыл бұрын

When you expect the bush joke on the first and get surprised on the second

@King_Flush 7 ай бұрын

"I'ts not often I get to check out two bushes within a few minutes to each other" Epic, just epic.

@adleneboulebtateche156 3 жыл бұрын

The best comparisons are those made side by side. Thank you Vincent.

@THKJamesMaxx 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks for answering the question on a video! I didn't expect a whole video for the answer!

@invisiblekid99 3 жыл бұрын

Just the casualness of the innuendos is perfect!

@professorlean3733 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I love his use of subtle humour 😂

@ogpirons 3 жыл бұрын

Still a disc man regardless. I prefer my entertainment to be physical.

@hdtvtest 3 жыл бұрын

We prefer everything to be physical, to be fair.

@ogpirons 3 жыл бұрын

@@hdtvtest Nowadays some are becoming OnlyFans of digital.

@dandana5263 3 жыл бұрын

Picture may be close but sound quality on disk destroys streaming.

@TJ.1 3 жыл бұрын

@@hdtvtest 😂😂😂👌🏼

@xxXGIXXXZERXxx 3 жыл бұрын

@@ogpirons 🤣

@SmoggySandwich 3 жыл бұрын

I was looking for a new TV and was saved by your channel from making a bad purchase. Thanks for your great and informative content!

@marcuscole8796 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video ! Wonderful visualization through side-by-side comparison, perfect analysis and explanations with even including the impact LG's DTM generates when using it. Nothing relevant is missing. Thanks a lot.

@ParadoxalDream 3 жыл бұрын

Great content! I had been wondering the same question for months about streaming HDR vs Blu-rays. I wonder if you would get the same results (on average) when comparing other streaming services, such as HBO Max or Paramount+.

@BeastieMK 3 жыл бұрын

The compression artifacts of the 1080p streaming era that we merely noticeable at the time, are really quite distracting today since "Viewing distance" (more likely viewing angle) has improved. My Blu-rays, on the other hand, have held up quite nicely. I suspect the same will be the case with "4K" streaming even is some 4K Blu-rays don't have Dolby Vision. Even at my current viewing angle, I find compression artifacts more distracting than some titles' lack of Dolby Vision.

@alambe7275 2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t even have to watch this video to know that compress streaming movies are not better than watching the hard disk movies ever

@transfo47 2 жыл бұрын

Dolby Vision streaming is better than HDR10 BD. If both have DV, obviously go for the DV BD.

@edirol 3 жыл бұрын

By not offering DV Blu-rays it incentivizes, consumers to go with streaming services, for those that care about higher quality HDR. A future where we don't own anything and studios get guaranteed streaming revenue is what they want.

@jon4715 3 жыл бұрын

The Great Reset: Where "you'll own nothing and be happy."

@dantasticmania8728 3 жыл бұрын

They want full control and censorship that's why buying physical media matters cause it's to preserve the past to show it to future generations. Imagine a movie like Gone With The Wind ether being heavily altered/ censored or not shown at all became of sensitive assholes on Twitter ? Not a future I want to live in .

@user-zd2kl9yg4v 3 жыл бұрын

Or, you can get yourself qled and there will be no need for such thing as dolby vision.

@bighands69 3 жыл бұрын

They are now in the middle of banning Dr Seuss because the animals look racist. And yet if the animals had no characteristics of race they would be complaining about it being racist. What we are witnessing is like a witch hunt in that there is no winning whatsoever.

@jon4715 3 жыл бұрын

@@dantasticmania8728 Shoot, that's exactly why. Truly 1984. No easier way to alter history than if everything is digital and on demand. Obama's presidential library is totally digital isn't it?

@RTINGSdotcom 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Vincent! Nice to see the results side-by-side. Though, we'd be happy with getting stuck with chicken instead of fish 😎.

@cjsnowdon 3 жыл бұрын

No veggie options?

@califagonian9839 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, if the movies are any guide, we don't want both of our pilots eating the fish either. Unless we've got a washed up, depressed, Navy war veteran pilot with a drinking problem aboard.

@darkdraconis 3 жыл бұрын

@@cjsnowdon no, tons of meat only

@turfoid7899 3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@bullet759 3 жыл бұрын

@@darkdraconis eat yourself then

@schwartzy65 3 жыл бұрын

i do think bluray discs should ALWAYS have the best possible tech like dolby vision... it is the premium way afterall.

@halfvader8015 3 жыл бұрын

@Umar Metcalf You mean UHD Blu? Because they do have it. Or do you mean regular old Blu, because that's redundant. The SD gamut makes it pointless.

@halfvader8015 3 жыл бұрын

@Umar Metcalf Cheers, but I'm still not sure whether you mean a 4k/UHD/HDR blu ray player, or an old regular Blu player.

@bighands69 3 жыл бұрын

If you have a good set up you are not going to notice the small difference between HDR10 and dolby vision.

@krazyfrog 3 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 Did you even watch the video?

@JBR.1974 3 жыл бұрын

In truth physical media is slowly going the way of the dodo. So enjoy it whilst you can

@MrZhilas 2 жыл бұрын

Came across this comparison video while researching 4K Blu-Ray players. Its a really good video. I like in how much detail you go comparing streaming services and a physical players. I do appreciate how much work you put in to make video like this. If Disney + had all the films I like, I wouldn't even think about getting a 4K player. Unfortunately I am not a big fan of Marvel movies and movies like Hobbit, Martian, Mad Max, Sicario, Blade Runner, etc. is not available on Disney +. Getting several monthly subscriptions (Amazon, Disney, Netflix) just so you could enjoy your favorite movies will eventually cost you more than a physical 4K Blu Ray disc. And it is so nice to have those movies right there on the shelve.

@bennyvermeulen7255 5 ай бұрын

Totally agree. When I’m in the mood for some particular movie, most of them I can pick right of my shelves.Movies I sometimes don’t find on streaming. And I’m not intending to get more streaming services, just to watch a movie. If I see 1 movie during a week it’s much. So streaming is for me expensive. A video store was the better option for me. I had periods for some months that i din’t watch Netflix at all. So I canceled it.

@ravf458 3 жыл бұрын

So despite the DV hdr on Disney Plus, the HDR10 and solid bitrate from the 4k disc is superior. Knew that already, just wanted to summarize😉

@Rams3040 3 жыл бұрын

The picture quality of Disney+ is great,but somebody needs to tackle the picture quality of Amazon Prime which has decreased drastically in the past year. The 4K HDR picture on that streaming app looks like 240p full of macro-blocking,posterization,shifting pixels and bleeding colors. Maybe it looks okay in a small phone,but on a 65 inch TV and projector it looks atrocious.

@WarHog4ever 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I recently rented the newer Planet of the Apes trilogy on Prime in 4K and was shocked at how poor the quality was. My player is wired to fiber internet, so connection wasn't an issue.

@imhh11 3 жыл бұрын

totally agreed.. Amazon prime 4K is so bad compared to the other streaming services

@adumowumo 3 жыл бұрын

It could be related to COVID. A lot of streaming services apparently reduced the quality or something of their services. KZfaq and Amazon I’ve seen the biggest drop in quality on. The BIGGEST issue is NOW TV charging so much for their services and offering nothing above 1080p and even that isn’t supported on all devices, which is 2021 is an absolute disgrace.

@user-zd2kl9yg4v 3 жыл бұрын

Thats a shame, amazon used to have best 1080p quality for movies, next only to blu-rays. POTA movies btw do not have native 4k even on blu ray, and on amazon prime I don't see ultrahd in their descrtiption, unlike grand tour or expanse. Amazon still gives best HDR out there providing hdr10+.

@artschiloyan9101 3 жыл бұрын

That's one of the reasons I couldn't really get into watching Prime. I really think Netflix and Disneyplus have a better picture quality.

@unsungwindham 3 жыл бұрын

This has been a question I've been looking for answers to for a very long time. Thanks

@alistairmacrae4993 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video I’d been wondering about this. I always felt that Blu-Ray was more crystalline but felt colder and I couldn’t say why

@DaryleHamel 2 жыл бұрын

3:40 - 🤣 I rewound that just to make sure I heard what I thought I heard the first time

@JesusMartinez-mk6fc 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting comparison Vincent. However, when comparing Dolby Vision (DV) source material from streaming services versus DV 4K Blu-ray as you did over three years ago with your video on the DV Apple TV 4K versus the DV 4K Blu-ray test; the 4K Blu-ray came out on top. The differences may be slight depending on the specific capabiity of the TV a viewer owns but they are visually noticeable nonetheless.

@lolerie 3 жыл бұрын

Apple TV DV decoder is shite.

@naderzein2435 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I'd be interested to see the same comparison but with other studios then Disney as they are known to not have great transfers on 4k blu-ray in general. Rogue One is probably the most useful comparison here, that's an awesome disc.

@lukemorris4504 3 жыл бұрын

I have a Sony A90J Vincent and am looking for a UHD player to use with it. Do I need to go for a Dolby vision supported player to play these film formats? Which UHD players would you recommend. Not looking to spend crazy amounts on one. Thanks

@jessesuosalmi 3 жыл бұрын

How the aspect ratio was such that the movie content covered the whole screen? With my disney plus application on my CX6 the aspect ratio is 16:9 and the screen has huge black boxes on top and bottom. Or is the screen zoomed in?

@brantlisk786 3 жыл бұрын

2 bushes!!! 😂😂😂 love it!!

@AAFJohnBanks 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video Vincent! I would like see such a comparison using the UB9000 and how the HDR Optimizer improves the HDR10 picture.

@edwinrijos6679 Жыл бұрын

Is this after using the HDR optimizer on the Panasonic ub420.? Or without using the feature

@flowergatcha 2 жыл бұрын

Can you plz! Help anyone I purchased a nanocell 90 lg tv and when Dolby vision is on the image looks so dark and gray nothing pops out but when I put my ps5 that doesn’t have Dolby vision it looks amazing super 4K colors are bright and clear is my tv defective?

@daraghmorrissey 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Vincent. I was surprised by the conclusion but agree with you 100%. I just love the convenience of streaming. I built up an expensive library of DVDs when that format came out and as I travelled and moved houses, it was a pain to ship. I bought a Sony X900H a few months ago and the built in apps are just great at displaying content in Dolby Vision. Formula 1: Drive to Survive has some amazing shots in Dolby Vision for example. Where Blu Rays might have a slight advantage is audio (with other audio formats supported) - but more and more streaming is being delivered with Dolby Atmos. I must calibrate my TV - still using the out of the box settings.

@adriannn3720 2 жыл бұрын

4K Blu-Rays are drastically better with movies shot on film that have digital noise, as the lower bitrate on the stream causes loss of detail in grain scenes. And if you find streaming more convenient, you can always just rip your discs to a hardrive, and then put the disc in your garage or something. Works the same, but you are getting superior quality.

@dm_tx 2 жыл бұрын

Atmos audio bitrates on streaming services tend to be around the 768Kbps. This is lossy compression - meaning loss of quality versus the studio master. Discs that include Atmos tracks are the lossless version with no loss of quality versus the studio master. The bitrates tend to be in the 3000+ (I regularly see discs with 7000+ Kbps atmos tracks) Kbps range. This difference is hugely noticeable with the proper audio equipment to play and hear such things. The audio experience of a good quality audio track makes just as much difference as beautiful imagery and colors. Unfortunately, it tends to be the biggest afterthought to most consumers when it comes to home media.

@BrieoRobino 2 жыл бұрын

@@adriannn3720 unless you're standing 5 in from your TV and a constantly pausing looking for artifacts, you're probably not going to notice a difference. Not worth the hassle in my opinion.

@TundraBoy69 2 жыл бұрын

@@adriannn3720 I don't think ripping discs to a hardrive is convenient though

@truecauseofchaos 6 ай бұрын

Great video! I do feel that audio is 50% of a movie experience and I've always felt that Blu-ray always has more "punch" than their streamed counterparts. Even DVDs seem to have a better kick than their streamed versions (older content).

@deadturret4049 5 ай бұрын

Yep. And youre not imagining it either. Audio is the first thing to take a hit because such a huge chunk of a movie's file size is audio. With streaming, you're trading audio for visuals so that you can actually stream it.

@issaciams 2 ай бұрын

Yes Blu ray audio is way better than streaming audio and its not even close so that automatically makes 4k hdr10 blu ray the winner for me since streaming audio is a lot more compressed.

@piotrkozak3907 3 жыл бұрын

Hi , Do U think zidoo UHD 3000 media player doing dolby vision upscaling from hdr 10 will be any good for 4k blu rays ?

@zenbe 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video Vincent, I’ve been wondering the same! Also I have a weird question, but the background « blur » on the Disney+ menu screen, on my 65CX shows some very strong banding and artifacts, but via the PS5 it looks all good and smooth. I don’t know if this affects IQ when streaming from the TV, and I can’t compare with the PS5 since it doesn’t do Dolby Vision so the images look vastly different in any case...

@lgans316 3 жыл бұрын

These banding and blocking appear to a lesser extent on iTunes and MoviesAnywhere stream of these films which are encoded at higher bit rates 25-31 Mbps as opposed to D+ wherre 4K HDR bit rates hover between 16-28 Mbps.

@SpawnViper4 3 жыл бұрын

Yes this could be more future reviews. Its exciting to think of the Bravia Core possibilities.

@yviruss1 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting; although not surprising.

@tomd8168 3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering that too. Netflix has some interesting algorithms and compression coming out that could also change up this.

@AvatarFanUno 3 жыл бұрын

@@tomd8168 oh is there an article about upcoming changes? :o

@tomd8168 3 жыл бұрын

@@AvatarFanUno I think I had a brain fart when I wrote this.. I can't find the article I was reading but I may have gotten confused with their new way of measuring compression, based on this article on their tech blog. netflixtechblog.com/optimized-shot-based-encodes-now-streaming-4b9464204830 but they may be using it on more 4k content now.. if I stumble across what I was reading back then I'll post it! Sorry for the confusion.

@ricarva 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, Vincent! One thing, though: I've noticed some inconsistencies (changing brightness levels mid-scene, dim picture, and now the blue tint pointed out by you) in DV playback in the Disney Plus app (LG CX), and am wondering if there's some tweaking still to be done to get optimal, consistent results with DV content from Disney.

@TechWiz1983 2 жыл бұрын

If you play it through Apple’s 4K TV, Disney+ looks much better than through the TV app. Not sure why, but it does on my 65” LG G1.

@gagesaenz3864 6 ай бұрын

It's 2024 and this issue still persists with my AppleTV4K and LG CX. I'm not sure if it's Disney, Apple, or LG, but the difference in brightness from scene to scene drives me bonkers. Watching Percy Jackson and some scenes as straight up GoT level dark and the moment a subtitle hits it washes out all the color.

@radiksadykov9313 3 жыл бұрын

good day . Please tell me which TV is best for sony ps 5, which had the best TV performance for games. distance from TV to person 78 inches (2 meters). thank you

@Bobi816 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video! I’ve been wondering this same question for months since getting my PS5 as well. 👍🏻

@ferrari77773 3 жыл бұрын

Overall, Dobly vision streaming and Dobly digital plus audio gives HDR10 4K bluray more than a run for its money, but I still slightly lean more to HDR 4K bluray because of the superior audio.

@Mowglibaloo2 2 жыл бұрын

Basically gimping the disc by design

@istudy9 2 жыл бұрын

How is audio better though?

@ferrari77773 2 жыл бұрын

@@istudy9 streaming audio is compressed, less info. Bluray audio is uncompressed, more info.

@x-techgaming 2 жыл бұрын

What audio hardware and speakers/headphones do you have?

@metalliholic 2 жыл бұрын

@@x-techgaming the tv built in speaker 😂

@nadavge 2 жыл бұрын

Great review. There is one detail that I find rather noticeable which didn't receive attention. When looking at a single frame in the HDR10 footage when there are moving objects on the right TV, there is very noticeable ghosting. This can be seen in multiple scenes, but is present ONLY in the HDR10 content. Examples: 9:34 - when Capn is walking 9:42 - when the Hulk (human form) is turning around 9:45 - when hulk is changing This is a very big difference in my opinion giving a huge advantage to Dolby vision on anything containing even medium level of movement. Is that because of the codecs or the screen settings?

@robertct06 2 жыл бұрын

I get the feeling it’s the camera. I don’t think Vincent would’ve over looked it but you never know

@nadavge 2 жыл бұрын

@@robertct06 Given the TVs are supposed to be configured the same way this sounds unlikely

@matisms 2 жыл бұрын

a big motion gap there

@issaciams 2 ай бұрын

Dude this was the most obvious difference to me so something is off here. I don't understand why the Blu ray side would be showing all that ghosting. LG CX doesn't have ghosting issues like that so I'm very confused. Gotta e a capturing issue.

@vanity_pill 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting for a comparison like this. I strictly stream and watch purchased content on Apple TV; I don’t own any discs anymore. Thanks for the in-depth vid

@michaeldietz2648 2 жыл бұрын

There is no comparison of 4K Blu-ray. A 4K Blu-ray will blow away any form of streaming, streaming comes in compressed video form a 4K Blu-ray is uncompressed this applies to sound as well, Believe me if you have the correct set up and you put on Dolby Atmos surroundsound from a 4K Blu-ray it is mine blowing compared to streaming.

@Mike71712 3 жыл бұрын

Got to check 2 bushes within a few minutes of each other!! 🤣🤣😂 LMFAOOO!! You the man!! 😜

@moistsphincter 3 жыл бұрын

Nice one Vinnie, interesting video again. Love your content, keep up the excellent work.

@kelvinmogan8029 3 жыл бұрын

Hi. Would you have happened to have reviewed the TCL P8S or would you have happened to have it's calibration settings?

@r_bear 3 жыл бұрын

Dang, I'm a bit sad to hear that conclusion. That being said, is it possible that we can yell at Sony enough to get them to pay for DV licenses for the PS5?? I'd like my supported discs to work with DV, at least.

@shoopypit4884 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, 4k bluray looks better on my sony 4k player than my ps5. Regardless of which hdr it is

@kachow5830 3 жыл бұрын

@@shoopypit4884 what model?

@shae1547 3 жыл бұрын

@@shoopypit4884 what model?

@shoopypit4884 3 жыл бұрын

@@shae1547 the x700. I've only had intermittent issues with one 4k blu ray out of dozens played.

@shae1547 3 жыл бұрын

@schneper I highly highly doubt it, Sony doesn't wanna pay Dolby licensing fees. They don't even want the PS5 to have Atmos. Don't keep your hopes up

@matrixz6 3 жыл бұрын

Please make a video on Player led Dolby Vision vs HDR 10. Thanks!!

@abrarcreates 5 ай бұрын

Hey, I have recently purchased a Poco X6 Pro device but I'm confused which color scheme is best for watching movies? Vivid or original color pro or p3

@cesarbarroso7225 3 жыл бұрын

Conclusion: the best version of Disney movies are only available to them in the studios. Mediocre versions only available to the consumer.

@r9800pro 3 жыл бұрын

Disney should rot in hell for not including Dolby Vision on their physical 4K releases.

@DualReaver11 3 жыл бұрын

BASICALLY

@grantgoble1443 3 жыл бұрын

Have heard of double dipping? I'm sure in 5 years they'll start rereleasing them in "Dolby Cinema Edition " or some BS. Mark my words.

@richbleak3188 3 жыл бұрын

@@grantgoble1443 I hope you are right. I'm worried that they are just going to stop putting out UHD Bluray in favor of streaming. As sad as it is to say, we are probably 10 years away from that being ok from a picture quality standpoint, but most people just don't care that much about PQ, unfortunately. Hope I'm wrong.

@dandana5263 3 жыл бұрын

Disney is trash. Don't give em your money. That's the only way they will learn and respect their customers!

@grantgoble1443 3 жыл бұрын

@@dandana5263 Disney ain't the only studio that does this

@cybermousey 2 жыл бұрын

LoL. Love the line and how you delivered it "It is not often you get to check out two bushes within minutes of each other". The little ding at the end is gold. ^_^

@dano6306 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great content - you've become my go-to guy for anything related to calibration. Come for the tech breakdowns but stay for the double entendre perv jokes :D

@Achy_78 3 жыл бұрын

Keep the Bushes short for better contrast and viewing angles 👍

@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 жыл бұрын

Better smell too.....

@YouPube_X 3 жыл бұрын

That “bush” joke! 🤣

@joek6207 2 жыл бұрын

What is the difference in audio? I heard the LFE on streaming services is diminished substantially compared to disc.

@oscaraguilera3125 Жыл бұрын

Hello, would you recommend the panasonic dp 150? I own a U6G. And my receiver is a Sony dh790. Thank you in advance.

@BlindeEzel 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comparison. Apart from the picture quality, one is never sure that a movie will remain in the catalogue of a streaming-service. So for movies and shows like GoT, LoTR... I buy the UHD discs anyway.

@albertreichenbach1558 2 жыл бұрын

Well, streaming movies requires a satellite connection and compression. With Russia building up troops on their border and China threatening Taiwan, the first thing to go will be the satellites to cripple any response from us. With UHD discs, you have a 4K back up until satellites are restored. Now if they knock out our power grid also, we won't be watching anything...

@biaccoo 2 жыл бұрын

Two terrible examples there. Hbo owns got so it will never leave. Amazon owns lotr so it’ll never leave. Disney owns marvel and Star Wars so it will never leave

@BlindeEzel 2 жыл бұрын

Where I live HBO is not even available directly.

@schwartzy65 3 жыл бұрын

i dont care about streaming quality since i love collecting films on my own collection... physical media on your hands is just so much better imo plus extras and nice releases like steelbooks etc :)

@bighands69 3 жыл бұрын

That is all fine and dandy until special officers come around to your home and seize the material that is deemed dangerous because it is supposed to be racist.

@yviruss1 3 жыл бұрын

@bingobaz6402 2 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 like that's going to happen 🤣😂

@bingobaz6402 2 жыл бұрын

Same. I never stream anything. Not usually but got an android TV a few, days ago. Going to check out these movies on Disney plus. Can't seem to get dolby vision from disc's for some reason. Only apps as I got it on the apple app. Which was crap as not many movies seem to be on there. Sounds like Disney plus is the place to go to experience dolby vision, if you can't get it to work on the uhd.

@schwartzy65 2 жыл бұрын

@@bingobaz6402 does your player support dolby vision? And not all bluray have that for some reason. But what i have seen the diffrence isnt really big at all imo and i can live without it easily

@xenon9887 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Vincent! Thanks for the comparison. I wonder if you have a comment on a issue I have with my CX, that I also saw on my C7. Dolby Vision content is often way dimmer than I feel it should be (Settings like ECO Mode are not enabled and firmware is up-to-date). For example I used your analysis of Rogue One HDR and your tests showed that highlights should exceed 1000 nits, but watching them myself from Disney+ the only way to get any kind of real brightness I need to max out Dynamic Contrast, which I shouldn’t have to do. The only way I can find to get things as bright as I feel they should be is to use Vivid mode, or to a lesser extent Cinema Home with the AI Brightness setting on to allow it to use the ambient light sensor to adjust DV brightness. Any idea how to resolve this?

@TheJimmy80808 2 жыл бұрын

Another excellent and informative video Vincent. Always good to know before buying if the streaming service one already has is as good as going and buying the blu-rays. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush! Would you do a streaming service quality comparison? It’s perhaps quite clear to most enthusiasts but maybe worth bringing to wider attention. So far I find Apple best then Disney Netflix Amazon NowTV in that order. In the U.K. I find BBC iPlayer ahead of the other free to view channels. Also I find that the Apple hosted versions are often superior to the programs available on BBC iPlayer or 4 on Demand etc. Thank you Vincent.

@warreng5257 3 жыл бұрын

Dolby Vision is just that much better than HDR10. It's still shocking some manufacturers don't add Dolby Vision to their TVs

@dr.anthonyforgione4253 3 жыл бұрын

Not on Lion King. See at 3:25: Dolby Vision strangely green, and faded contrast; while the HDR 10 Blu-Ray preserves the reds and blues, and renders better contrast.

@halfvader8015 3 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. Moreso for cheaper sets though.

@user-zd2kl9yg4v 3 жыл бұрын

HDR10+ is basically same as dolby vision, its a shame some copmanies do not utilise it.

@Dave-zk4fv 3 жыл бұрын

With DV a royalty has to be paid for being compatible with for e.g. a TV. Also mastering studios have to be authorised to use and master in DV whereas HDR is open source and anyone can use it. That’s why some are kicking off about the PS5 not having DV, Sony would have to pay Dolby for (I think) each console sold.

@ewcho8995 3 жыл бұрын

@@dr.anthonyforgione4253 Well we shouldn't judge hdr from a video, but regardless, the lion looks far more natural in dolby vision. HDR10 makes the lion look red

@TheLegend-qj7wh Жыл бұрын

4K UHD >>> Streaming. Always!

@static880 3 жыл бұрын

You have a best review Vincent so detailed and easy to understand. I just like you to have a review on AV1 8K codec KZfaq, Netflix, Apple TV, Amazon Prime and so many more will be using it. A huge plus for 8K TV owners

@JBR.1974 3 жыл бұрын

Some good info here. But would like to know how this fairs on TVs with far better peak brightness than the CX.

@AndyGilleand 3 жыл бұрын

I bet Mad Max Fury Road would have been a great example to test this out with

@thatcherfreeman 3 жыл бұрын

The 4k blu-ray for Fury Road kinda looks like ass though. They oversaturated all the reds and it looks super artificial.

@AndyGilleand 3 жыл бұрын

@@thatcherfreeman NO! You are so wrong. Fury Road is one of the rarest examples of fire actually looking the way it should in HDR. Another great example is Greatest Showman and Batman v Superman in the Knightmare scene. All too often does fire get blown out and washed out. Real fire is deep red and orange, and BRIGHT. Mad Max does it right.

@thatcherfreeman 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndyGilleand The Fury Road fire, specifically in the 4k bluray goes from a deep dark red to a washed out orange. The red parts are substantially more saturated than the rest of the scene and it's actually jarring how bad they look as they don't match the rest of the color grade at all. Plenty of the Amazon reviews of the disk agree with me and it seems like a clear mistake in the color grading process. I don't recall finding the reds offensive when I watched the movie in theaters and I have like every version of the movie on Blu-ray. The Fury Road UHD bluray version is a fluke in its poor quality, though the rest of the HDR treatment looks fine.

@AndyGilleand 3 жыл бұрын

@@thatcherfreeman A lot of people who don't understand what fire should actually look like agree with you. That's what fire actually looks like in real life. We're just all conditioned to seeing it blown out because of limited dynamic range, that this feels strange to see on screen. This is HDR actually doing what it was designed to do, and doing it really well. Theaters are not HDR.

@thatcherfreeman 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndyGilleand Movies have an artificial color grade in post, just like now the night scenes in Fury Road are blue instead of being a realistic night time color. As a result, the objective is for the fire to look plausible in the context of the rest of the color grade, not for the fire to be the only "realistic" looking element in a world that's unrealistically entirely orange and blue, if that means breaking the overall look of the color grade. In any case, most people probably found the reds in that release distracting and therefore found that this color grading choice distracted from the rest of the image. In my opinion, it made the flames look like a low quality vfx job that didn't match the backplate, and therefore reduced the believability of the image compared to the SDR releases.

@dOoMnX 3 жыл бұрын

It looks like Dolby Vision has a greenish tint in all movies. Also saw this in the avsforum where a guy corrected it by uploading a unity 3DLUT. Any info on this Vincent?

@Mopantsu 3 жыл бұрын

It may be a mastering issue. I also noticed that some DV content can look a tad washed out compared to HDR. Either that or HDR having a set range throughout the entire movie causes contrast issues that create the perception of oversaturation.

@cbunn4041 3 жыл бұрын

would love to see u compare lg cx hdr effect setting to true hdr and to expert dark room setting and your thoughts of useing it for most hd content

@mikemckee6583 3 жыл бұрын

Vincent, what streaming device did you use? I purchased a Roku Ultra a few months ago to take advantage of Atmos streaming, but have found that, especially on Disney +, Dolby Vision titles are too dark. I end up having to bump the gamma up two notches to compensate. I don’t have this problem when playing 4K Blu Ray discs. For reference, I’m streaming to a Sony X930E. Streaming the same Dolby Vision titles using the TV’s internal apps doesn’t exhibit this dimming. I’m wondering if this is an artifact somehow of how the Roku is interacting with Sony’s implementation of Dolby Vision, of its instead a Roku Ultra issue, or if it could be a problem with the Roku version of the Disney + app.

@DrVagax 10 ай бұрын

I am on the edge of buying a S95B 65" but missing out on Dolby Vision feels like a big loss, but seeing the comparisons the differences don't seem to be that bad, in your other video there is also barely any difference in Dolby Vision gaming vs HDR10. Guess Dolby's marketing did a good job because I did had the feeling I would be missing out on a ton of difference!

@SagaciousFrank 8 ай бұрын

Get the LG G3 instead. The Sony A95L would be nice, but about £1.2K dearer.

@echinas0908 8 ай бұрын

The worse the tv, the bigger the differences. Vincent and others have showcased that with modern TVs and recent content the difference is negligible.

@Brickhouse917 8 ай бұрын

The S95B is insanely good. Dolby Vision is great, but you're not missing out by getting HDR10 and HDR10+ is also coming. Dolby Vision, IMO, is overhyped.

@seanwilson9502 3 жыл бұрын

Curry's in UK have the Sony A90J.... can' wait for HDTVTest to get his hands on it

@JaimeMartinez8 3 жыл бұрын

Did you use the the built in WebOS D+ app or D+ on Apple TV?

@johnmecca9008 2 жыл бұрын

3:40 LMAO!!🤣🤣 I love u man. U crack me up. Great video!

@leonardo.martins 3 жыл бұрын

Make a comparision between iTunes and UHDBD, please.

@EvoCarl 3 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to compare both these to the Apple TV /iTunes versions.

@Dave-zk4fv 3 жыл бұрын

Defo as I have heard Disney+ streams at 1440p whereas Apple/iTunes does it at 2160p

@lolerie 3 жыл бұрын

Apple 4k has rised blacks in DV.

@alantranouez2815 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your video. Would you have compare the quality between Marvels Dolby Vision in Disney+ vs iTunes ?

@josephquinones7965 3 жыл бұрын

My only question is do the studios edit those movie for tone mapping or static metadata? What is the real content intent?

@mbins123 3 жыл бұрын

worship the bitrates ! :)

@PUsokrJosh305 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Vincent! I wonder if there was a way that you could do a comparison between Dolby Vision vs. HDR 10 with LG's DTM set to "On" but not pausing the movie? I have noticed that when pausing a movie, DTM shows a good difference vs Dolby Vision. However, if you let the movie roll and not pause scenes, I have noticed DTM is not as drastic and is very close to what Dolby Vision offers. The best way to see this is on Thor Ragnorok Chapter 16 when Valkyrie comes into the battle with fireworks. When pausing, the fireworks go from bright to dim thanks to DTM (but it's paused). Yet when playing the scene normally (no pause), the fireworks look bright and normal. To me, I feel like pausing movies inaccurately shows what DTM really does to the picture. Just a thought!

@BladeRunnerJP11 2 жыл бұрын

I stream iTunes movies from an Xbox series x, will it give me better image if I stream from an Apple TV 4K box? or will it be the same picture quality?

@teruyume 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Vincent, a huge fan of yours. Just wondering is there a chance you can comparing picture quality between different source on one TV, e.g. same movie play on native app, AppleTV, FireTV, Roku, GoogleTV ...etc

@michaelhutter2160 3 жыл бұрын

Still prefer disc over steam and Disney weird as most 4K discs with exception of Disney are in Dolby vision so disc superior

@weaponx40 3 жыл бұрын

Dolby vision on 650 nit oled vs hdr10 on at 12/1300 nit Sony/Samsung would be a interesting next comparison !

@califagonian9839 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@califagonian9839 3 жыл бұрын

And with HDR Optimizer for the Sony/Samsung

@leedudgeon5861 3 жыл бұрын

Any 4k film with fast scenes on my b9 oled looks like it's dropping to 1080p, its alot softer than the slower scenes, tried wired and wireless, anyone else have same issues ps using built in app

@ishmeetsingh5672 3 жыл бұрын

Guardians of the galaxy vol 2 and Thor ragnarok Dolby Vision look quite different between Disney plus and Vudu. Is Vudu or Disney plus more accurate? I have a calibrated lg c8

@iordaniskaravasilis 3 жыл бұрын

I will watch because I like this comparison additionally the VILLAMAN did a comparison with Dolby vision versus HDR 10 that was really good as well.

@JorisKeijser 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for telling us that you will watch this because you like it I guess? Lol

@AndyGilleand 3 жыл бұрын

Before watching this, my experience is: Better detail and sound quality on disc, but if streaming has DV, the DV version tends to have a better overall look to its HDR presentation.

@RobertK1993 3 жыл бұрын

Still inferior to high bit rate 4K Ultra HD Blu ray Dolby Vision HDR in streaming looks dim compared 4K Ultra HD Blu ray disc

@AndyGilleand 3 жыл бұрын

@@RobertK1993 That's a problem with your TV. The disc has the same color information, just more detail due to less compression. Same brightness, same highlights, shadows, and color, just lower bitrate.

@apfelschorle1988 2 жыл бұрын

The audio is a bigger problem for me. I just hope the streaming Bitrate will improve over the years.

@AndyGilleand 2 жыл бұрын

@@apfelschorle1988 In terms of how much compression is applied compared to disc, audio and video have a similar degradation in noticeable quality. The problem with streaming audio is the codecs that many streaming apps and devices require are very outdated, have maximum bitrates, and don't allow for lossless audio. We will need some pretty major changes to support that, while improving video bitrate can happen today.

@HaouasLeDocteur 3 жыл бұрын

What about Panasonic HDR Optimizer? Would it help?

@lyrs-gk8qk 3 жыл бұрын

Can anyone help me balance my LG c9 and Panasonic 820! Like a Setting guide

@stephenpatterson8056 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see this comparison but on displays with higher peak brightness. As he said, I think if this same comparison were being performed on displays with 1,000 nit+ peak brightness that there would be little to no difference between the two formats

@warreng5257 3 жыл бұрын

Which displays have 1,000+ nits and Dolby Vision?

@stephenpatterson8056 3 жыл бұрын

@@warreng5257 Umm, Sony LCDs, Vizio LCDs....

@califagonian9839 3 жыл бұрын

Or compare a quality OLED to a Samsung QLED like a 90R... or... ideally... a Neo QLED once he has access to one. This would be real world, right? Many consider the lack of DV on the Samsungs to be a deal killer. But is it really a problem with most movies?

@warreng5257 3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenpatterson8056 I guess my mind was thinking more about OLED tvs

@warreng5257 3 жыл бұрын

@@califagonian9839 I think there's a comparison for this already if you check deep into HDTVtest previous videos

@drdiegoeverybodyssomeone7247 3 жыл бұрын

My bro!! Just want to say thank you so much for all your hard work and passion you have for your channel!! The blooming effect is my biggest disappointment I made with QLED 75 inch 2019..so I really appreciate the side to side comparison..this help me to make a better choice down the line!!! Much love and respect always!!! ..if you have any thoughts on something around 1200$ that is great for Netflix. Gaming ,and KZfaq..im looking for those deep blacks with the least blooming effect..thank you..hope to hear back when your free🙏❤🙌🌹

@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 жыл бұрын

Buy an OLED TV if blooming is your biggest disappointment.

@drdiegoeverybodyssomeone7247 3 жыл бұрын

@@PSYCHOV3N0M definitely what im going to do..I figure I have a qled and if I want to pretty much max out my experience for overall use I have to have both..much love thanks for the advice I appreciate very much 🙏

@we8463 4 ай бұрын

I love your reviews “it’s not often I get to check out two bushes within a minute of each other” 😅😂

@issaciams 2 ай бұрын

Why is there so much ghosting on the 4k blu ray side? That doesnt make sense to me. Is it a capturing issue?

@we8463 3 жыл бұрын

“It is not often I get to check two bushes with in a few minutes of each other” 😅🤣😂 I love your humor great video! For me uncompressed sound makes UHD 4K Blu-ray king of the hills!

@leejones8067 3 жыл бұрын

Great tech fuelled video as always Vincent. In my experience Disney+ isn't the best streaming service for image quality, I believe a comparison with Apple movies would produce different results.

@milanklco 2 жыл бұрын

I watched on apple tv + yesterday Suicide Squad 2 in Dolby Vision ; wow wow wow; not a second I thought Blu ray could do better and I sit 6" from 65" Sony A80J new oled 2021 model, it's epic. Honestly recommend everybody to check it in Dolby Vision 🙂😉

@transfo47 2 жыл бұрын

@@milanklco Meh. I liked the first one better.

@milanklco 2 жыл бұрын

@@transfo47 I am on the same boat with you regarding story line 😃😁 but I ment Dolby Vision HDR quality and picture, it's in 2nd part stunning 😋🙂