The most beautiful malformed mess of an episode I've ever seen. / stubagful
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@Stubagful4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Bojack Horseman season 6 part 2 video will be next
@teenytv51944 жыл бұрын
YAY
@jedisalsohere4 жыл бұрын
It's the end...
@Yan_Alkovic4 жыл бұрын
Oh no... I was hoping to see your reaction to the Haunting ASAP, but then Bojack fans need their fresh dose of Stubagful, too, so I guess it’s their turn now!
@pappadarappa4 жыл бұрын
And now for an example of depression portrayed by television done right:
@steelbarber4 жыл бұрын
I’m scared
@aristidetwain91174 жыл бұрын
You know, *if* they did your idea of making this a two-parter, they could then have made the animated sequence the pre-title sequence of *Part 2*, thus not spoiling the twist.
@kitbrown38954 жыл бұрын
AND we could have not had the one with the shit people with green hair
@christianwise6374 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I mean the episode offers the perfect moment for a cliffhanger. The companions are captured by Zellin, the Doctor realises she's been tricked, and part 1 ends with Zellin's companion being released. Then part 2 starts with that animated sequence, and the rest of the episode focusses on the Doctor trying to escape captivity and defeat the two godlike creatures feasting on humanity's nightmares. It would've allowed more time with these phenomenal new villains, and even allowed for a more natural, less rushed climax. I do like Can You Hear Me, and I do think it's one of the Chibnall era's stronger episodes, but it definitely needed to be a two-parter in order to properly stick the landing.
@themoxcast4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it almost feels like that was the plan but it got hacked to pieces.
@Jeremyparker4 жыл бұрын
@@kitbrown3895 Nice! That would have lifted the entire series in quality!
@insert-name-here36514 жыл бұрын
After I watched 'Can you hear me?', I went back and watched 'Amy's Choice', 'Vincent and the Doctor' & 'The God Complex'. They basically covered all the same themes but did a much better job at it
@JayExci4 жыл бұрын
this is a good.
@matty.r234 жыл бұрын
yes that is correct
@Biotic_Warlock4 жыл бұрын
Character development for Yaz costs 50p of BBC funding confirmed.
@TheJaviferrol4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i mean she wanted to be a cop cause she had a random mental health conversation with one in some road? She might as well could have been a psychiatrist or educator or whatever instead of going into parking tickets
@ftumschk4 жыл бұрын
@@TheJaviferrol Trouble is, I think it's a bit more difficult to qualify as a psychiatrist or an educator than it is to join the police force :)
@TheJaviferrol4 жыл бұрын
@@ftumschk They should have totally adressed it better and earlier
@ftumschk4 жыл бұрын
@@TheJaviferrol Oh, indeed. They should just have given Yaz more to do, full stop, as she's always struck me as the potentially more interesting companion. Despite what little she was given last year, I still warmed to her more than Ryan, even though he and his back-story got far more airtime.
@BucketThinkTank14657Nerd4 жыл бұрын
@@ftumschk This should have just been a Yaz episode honestly, that would have served the story better. Either of them could have been the one to have a nightmare to overcome or deal with, would have given it more focus.
@Far7164 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate Stuart's harsh, but very caring criticisms of the show. I feel a lot of fans are against the show no matter what good it does in this era. A large portion of the fan base are so up and arms about anything they view as "PC", to a point where I think "wait so are y'all just racist or science denying?". I saw another video on this episode and they said "oh another white male villain ugh! in regards to Zelan, and then when the black woman was revealed to be a villain too they said "oh another diversity casting!". I'm just sitting there thinking "so what do you want?! A show with only white people and no villains?!" People also are just mad at any mention of real life issues, like that's never happened in the show before (though to be fair eps like orphan 55 fuck it bad, but hey it's doctor who that happens a lot for a variety of things). The show just can't win with these anit-pc people that get triggered when they see a person of color or a progressive message. The show is definitely not perfect, and overall this is probably the worst era of the modern show in my opinion, but the vitriolic hatred from a vocal minority of the fan base is extremely grating to me. So shoutout to Stuart for still hating on the show from a place of caring. Now I can step off my soap box lol
@joeespin43774 жыл бұрын
the reason why they perceive the black villain a diversity hire is because most if not all the hiring of minority actors in seasons 11 and 12 have been made to make the show be more representative and diverse. it also shows how progressive and diverse the BBC is in their hiring practices.
@Far7164 жыл бұрын
@@joeespin4377 In this reply I'm using the word "you" as not a direct reference to you per se, but rather I'm using "you" in regards to the people with that viewpoint. Your comment is just pretty statement-y. Is there anything wrong with being more representative and diverse though? And besides that viewpoint is just invalidating any actor of color as a "diversity hire" and not judging them on their performance or anything, like they would for a white actor evidently. And I'm not gonna say that's racist but it certainly is prejudiced even if not on purpose, because your instantly counting someone out because of the color of their skin. Judge an actor on their acting not what you perceive as as secret evil conspiracy by the BBC diversity cabal. And besides we do live in a more diverse world, so is it really bad to have more diverse people on screen? Also don't get me wrong I hate on the nose, badly done pandering diversity or messages, which this era for sure has done. It's just a problem when you get to the point, as I talked about, where you see every person of color as a diversity hire. If the show clumsily calls it out and expects a pat on the back, yeah that sucks. But if a person of color is just a character and does well and doesn't do any shitty pandering in their character, then woo. Or if they explore real life implications well I'm also not against that. Like I've said this era is definitely not perfect with how they handle diversity or messages, but it's definitely not as bad as the vocal minority makes it out to be. There's a lot more pressing and real issues in how they've been writing the show than "oh no a black side character." So yeah once again, I'm not like going at you, just explaining what I see as how things are.
@joeespin43774 жыл бұрын
@@Far716 i know your use of "you" was as a collective "you" not a specific "you" i take issue with your characterization of our group as a "vocal minority" yes we are vocal but are we really a minority. if we are a minority should we not be represented on the show? what if the only reason for the character's existence is so that the BBC and Chibs can score some points with the progressive community. you mean there isn't a cabal of diversity that includes the BBC. wow! this is real news. who can i tell that will believe me...HELP.:)
@martinhenderson53914 жыл бұрын
@@joeespin4377 You lot ARE represented in the show. Shouty, poor sentence structure, lacking in nuance, moral absolutists, obsessed with race, contractually obliged to turn up every season... You're Daleks.
@Far7164 жыл бұрын
@@joeespin4377 Good point on the use of minority haha, I'm not fully equipped with the right vernacular for this always. Though once again, for me, I don't really see the issue, overall, of more diversity. Yes, there is always going to be a big bit of pandering from a big organization like the BBC, but I don't see the harm to be honest. It still gives people of color a chance to just be in a big show. The thing with the Anti-PC people that is bad for me is that they seem to despise the presence of these people of color and see it as inherently negative, no matter the context, and that's the legit problem in my opinion. Hate the really bad pandering bits of show, yeah, but hating every time a person of color shows there face on the show because of the perceived PC-ness or Woke-ness, no. And in regards to New Who they've been adding more diversity and such since the beginning, with companions and incidental characters and all that, so it's interesting to me that this era in particular has been really getting people mad. I suppose it's probably just cuz of the more serious depictions of experiences of people of color, like in Rosa and Demons of the Punjab. Though for me the general idea of showing these more serious racial topics is a good idea in theory, whether or not it's done well is questionable, yeah. Rosa is pretty bad with it, and Punjab is pretty good at it in my opinion, so even within the era I don't see a large decline in quality BECAUSE of diversity topics, but rather a typical Doctor Who split of good and bad. I think having people of color more often opens up a lot of important stories and new perspectives for the show to explore. Also a lot of people are triggered by environmental issues and such, but once again it seems to me to be for the wrong reasons, but that's a whole other issue haha. Or the whole deal with the Doctor being a woman, but once again, another issue. So, once again, for me, I think people are focusing on the wrong thing as the biggest problem of the era. It's not diversity and social/political issues. It's the characters not being developed, its the stories not getting enough time to breathe, it's shitty monsters. And at least for me they've been doing better this season with all these things. Though like I said this is still probably the worst era of the show for me. But at least for me, I have hope that it will get better. This show has endless possibilities, and I think it's just part of being a doctor who fan. To have to sift through the good and the bad and hope that they capitalize on the gold premise of this show. And if it's not for you then fine, that's okay too. I really just think the Anti-PC people should re-examine their gripes a bit, cuz I think they're going about it the wrong way.
@benw44094 жыл бұрын
I loved this TBH. I get the resolution was a bit rushed but the episode was all about those last ten minutes, which are some of the best of Chibnall's run so far.
@BigNWide4 жыл бұрын
I saw this episode a little differently. The main focus wasn't the nightmare aliens, but mental health. Ryan's friend is suffering from depression. Graham is suffering from the loss of his wife an fear of returning cancer. The Aleppo scenes were set with a character suffering from imagined monsters, and the Doctor actually mentions the Arabs' enlightened response to mental health. And most of all, Yaz is not just a runaway, but her sister called the police because she was afraid Yaz would do "something stupid", which I read as code for attempting suicide. The whole episode had a solid theme of mental health with two aliens thrown in for the action. I still agree this ought to have been a two parter, but think it was more thematically solid than you give it credit for.
@Alisdair-Macpherson4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me who notices that the whole concept is similar to “the nightmare man” from the Sarah Jane adventures? Am I really the only person who is really bothered by this?
@OxbowisaMstie4 жыл бұрын
No, no, that guy was all hood and mouth. This guy had a head tattoo and did things with his fingers that forced the catholic church to make a statement purely on reflex. Besides, it's the next episode that really takes a hammer to the established canon's "lil finnies" with deranged glee.
@FortoFight4 жыл бұрын
I got that as well. I was growing out of SJA when that aired but even then that episode really gripped me. I like "Can you hear me" as well but it definitely feels a lot less original if you make the connection to "Nightmare Man". I'd be very surprised if the writer hadn't watched that SJA episode at all.
@kitbrown38954 жыл бұрын
Yeah I got that
@ShamrockParticle4 жыл бұрын
Nah, they just copped Mind of Evil and deadly assassin, visuals from Leisure Hive, and chucked in pointless references to guardians and externals and toymakers. Oh my. It's more sad how shallow Chibnall's show is when all these themes were done better back then. Or havebhuman children dumbed down over the last couple of decades?
@cosmog4203 жыл бұрын
I guess you can say that they are the same person, I don't think there was an explanation for the nightmare man in that episode.
@FortoFight4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how divisive the end scene with Graham is. Personally, I felt like it was the Doctor not knowing what to say but acknowledging Graham regardless. The Doctor could've not said anything, or said something generic and insincere, but to basically admit that she has nothing to say shows that she's simply there for him.
@janetracer4 жыл бұрын
But that's like excusing people like me who are uncomfortable with people AND have no solutions when emotional people dump on me. Unlike the doctor who probably can go to the Tardis medicine cabinet pull out some cancer cure pill and give it to Graham. Or they could go to some hospital planet (not run by cats) that has cancer cure. Instead we get the Doctor going oh well if you die, you die attitude.
@Ben-vf5gk4 жыл бұрын
It's not like she didn't care she clearly cared about him because she's considering what is the best thing to say and is thinking about his feelings rather than just trying to shut him up. To stall for time so she can do better, she played into her awkwardness and made him laugh- humour is a coping mechanism. And there are time-travel based rules for why she can't give Graham a cancer cure.
@DeplorableMinecrafter3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that the Doctor has been shown to be very good in these situations (see the Doctor comforting Amy in "Vincent and the Doctor" and that random woman he barely knew in "A Good Man Goes to War".
@somerandomguy2073 Жыл бұрын
@@DeplorableMinecrafter Umm, regeneration? Is the concept of a personality shift during regeneration somehow new to you?
@MatgoStyles4 жыл бұрын
Had the villains been less good, I wouldn't have had a problem with the rushed conclusion. The fact that they were amazing makes them feel so wasted.
@edward48404 жыл бұрын
What I thought they'd do with the cancer stuff is I'd make the Doctor do something with the controls and be like "whoop your cancer is gone the TARDIS just cured you" and then Graham goes away happy, but then you reveal visually that the Doctor just did it to reflect the awkward and difficult conversation instead of facing it as seems to be a character trait with this Doctor. I just want them to start to accept that the Doctor's fluffy demeanour is more of a bad thing as she tries to avoid the more difficult topics that she deals with. Maybe they started going in that direction in the latest episode, but they need to flesh it out more in my opinion
@reecechambers34674 жыл бұрын
This could've been Chibnall's "Blink" episode, it had everything going for it. The ending was the most slap-dash ending there has been so far in the 2 seasons and that's saying something. It was eerie, creepy and built suspense and everything looked so beautiful, from he planes to the spaceship. It was a shame this was only the one episode.
@janetracer4 жыл бұрын
I think this season of Doctor Who can be described as the M. Night Shyamalan year... What I mean is every episode has a surprise twist. But if you know every episode will have a major surprise twist and your expecting the surprise twist well.... it's really not a surprise twist.
@echtoon4 жыл бұрын
While I was watching this, I was expecting the twist to be the women was a sort of ‘big-good,’ and Zellin actually needed to free her so that he was whole. Maybe it could have even paralleled the Master and the Doctor’s relationship.
@SirMeowsAlot894 жыл бұрын
Joel Van Echteld damn, that would of been so much better. Hahaha I still really like this episode. But your idea 👍👍😎 would of made it better.
@maldon36594 жыл бұрын
I agree this should've been a 2 parter especially when it was introducing so many new characters like Ryan's friend, Grahams friends and the 2 gods
@theshadowdirector4 жыл бұрын
i would go into a defence of that Doctor-Hraham scene hut Council of Geeks covers it well.
@tardisnet94874 жыл бұрын
I love this episode and it's one of the best of the Thirteenth Doctor era so far in my opinion. It does have a lot of elements but think they all interlink in a consistent theme in a very satisfying way. I do think the villains defeat is a little rushed though
@DanDanDaaaan14 жыл бұрын
Really agree! There are so many great ideas in this one, and i love bits of it. But really needed a second part. Although with the scene with Graham and the Doctor at the end, to me the reason the Doctor doesn't have an answer for Graham is that she doesn't understand humans as much as she thinks she does. She has never had to deal with human illness such as cancer and so she's been caught extremely off guard
@arcadeassassin71764 жыл бұрын
i think you'l be excited to learn that bbc are doing an animated reconstruction of fury from the deep.
@peterkorman774 жыл бұрын
She didn’t say that she didn’t want to talk about Graham’s fear of his cancer returning. She said she didn’t know what to say, and so she was gonna think about it for a minute.
@jackrichardson70204 жыл бұрын
I really liked this ep despite the naff, rushed resolution
@WhiskeyBrewer4 жыл бұрын
So who else is hoping for an expanded VNA style Target book?
@jamiexavier15464 жыл бұрын
Zellian IS a metaphor for depression, and I feel like it works
@charliewarner7874 жыл бұрын
The fact that this wasn't a 2 parter was 50 shades of fucked up
@elitepower40574 жыл бұрын
Stuart: “Can You Hear Me? needed to be a two parter unless it cut some of the plot - and there was so much unnecessary plot to cut out.” Me: “..... So it *didn’t need* to be two parts."
@peterthompson19894 жыл бұрын
I suppose a lot of the stuff felt unnecessary because it wasn't developed enough and might have felt more justifiable if they had had the time to do something with them
@mathieuleader86014 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the Fugitive Doctor was a creation of Xellin
@Yan_Alkovic4 жыл бұрын
“Or you could just re-do the whole era, but do it properly this time” YES Oh if only there was a way to do that... Have Jack and the Master appear in Series 11 and 12, have the lady who wrote the Haunting to at least supervise, if not write all of the scripts... what else?
@charlestownsend92804 жыл бұрын
Several stories in this series i've come away with this story could have done with being two parters (like the one set on future earth), just go back to 13 episodes and spread out some of the stories, a second part could have explored more of the nightmares, which were way to short. As for the doctor not knowing what to say i kind of liked it, yes it wasn't what she should have said but that's the point, it's a difficult topic and people don't always have the right answers at the right time. I've also heard people liking it because it is the doctor opening up to her own problems of social anxities, which i can kind of see but maybe if that is what they are going for it could have been done better. It also has turned into that one thing those who just hate the show are using to cry that it's the worst episode ever, which just makes me want to defend it. I liked this episode, i think that this will be the it takes you away of the series, some will like it for what it is, some won't and some will get fixated on a really small part of the episode that they didn't like (like the frog, which was great or the doctors reaction to grahams question at the end).
@edward48404 жыл бұрын
Holy shit yes! The animated section was immediately just the Watership Down opening for me
@peterthompson19894 жыл бұрын
I did like the backstory element we got from Yaz but kind of feel like its stuff we should have found out in series 11. I mean if this is the reason she became a policewoman and also partly the reason she travelled with the doctor it would have been nice to explore early on. I just hope if some leave and we get new companions they actually develop them from the onset
@SamdeSamD4 жыл бұрын
The design of Zelan and that shot where the camera pans in the boys room to reveal him reminded me heavily of Mr Pipes in Ghostwatch
@castellanofgundabad54 жыл бұрын
Among so many other things, the fact that the nightmares were so un-scary really makes me feel that chibnall's making the show for kids rather than everyone.
@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex40514 жыл бұрын
I have my own problems with Whittaker's Doctor. The scene where The Doctor dismisses Graham's cancer as superficial and plays the victim in order for us to understand why she did that really convinced me that Jodie's Doctor wasn't as good after all. The Doctor is supposed to be kind, considerate, and compassionate. And it was appalling to see her do that to poor Graham in this situation. People often see themselves as the victim sometimes, but Jodie's Doctor sees herself as the victim all the time. She will often find something or somebody to blame for their shortcomings. In this case; Jodie's Doctor blames her inability to feel sympathy for Graham on her social awkwardness. And because of that, she is never gonna change for the better throughout her tenure. When I saw this episode, it gave me horrible flashbacks to whenever I played the victim. Last year, from March till December, I was going through a horrible tough time where a lot of bad things happened to me, and I found comfort in playing the victim because it ensured to me that I had done nothing wrong and kept me safe. But when watching a South Park episode, that encouraged me to stand up and take full responsibility for my actions. Watching that Doctor Who episode made me feel even more guilty. When you play the victim, you can justify being awful
@Ben-vf5gk4 жыл бұрын
Okay, the Doctor reacting that way to Graham was not that she didn't want to talk about it, she didn't know what to say and asked for a minute to think so she could help. The Doctor is an almost immortal alien- timelords probably don't have to deal with cancer because of their physiology, technology or regeneration- she can't relate to this even though she wants to help. No one got worked up when 10 asked a grieving woman to fly off with and maybe have a relationship with him despite looking like the man she just lost and being the reason he died. No one cared when 8 lost a companion and carried on as normal, despite how upsetting that was to his other companion. The Doctor is not one of us.
@davidsmith77524 жыл бұрын
The Doctor has experienced slow, inevitable death before though. An example of this would be the last few episodes of David Tennant's Doctor, where he had suffered enough damage to open up regeneration as an option he had, but it took a while for something to finish the job. They describe regeneration as feeling like dying, and every incarnation dies knowing that they are going to come out the other side of it with drastic shifts in their personality. All in all, while the Doctor probably doesn't need to worry about cancer specifically, they would certainly at least have an understanding of why the life draining out of them slowly and painfully would be scary for other people.
@Ben-vf5gk4 жыл бұрын
@@davidsmith7752 Tbh I and a lot of other people thought Tennant treating regeneration like that was really out of character, especially considering before and during that episode he has been willing to give his life and calls his immortality a curse. Prior to that regeneration had never been considered a death by the Doctors- Stuart even said once that's the human view of death, to timelords it means something different. And even during a regeneration- the Doctor still lives and knows he'll live, even if it "feels like dying" they know it's not really the end. There's no new persona waiting for Graham after cancer. Also this version of the Doctor is quite awkward and doesn't really know how to talk to people, so I bought it out of character reasons for this Doctor as well not just the Doctor in general. I don't feel she was dismissive as some people made her out to be
@SirMeowsAlot894 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna have to side with Ben on this. I did feel that was out of character... the 9th Doctor seemed pretty fine with his regeneration, when he was changing.. don’t worry Rose. Even changed into a more potential suitable romantic partner for her. (Rose). I feel like with Matt Smiths Regeneration speech, they were trying to “fix” the previous regeneration speech from David. (Just using actors names for reference, obviously it’s not “their speech”). We are all different people through out our lives, and it’s okay to change. As long as you remember all the people you use to be. Instead of, it’s like I DIE! Another man just goes sauntering off but I’m dead... well then what the point of regeneration?(besides obvious reason: the show gets to continue with a new actor as the Doctor).
@TheJaviferrol4 жыл бұрын
This episode feels like Chibnall went "shit, finale is in 2 episodes and these companions feel like cardboars...I gotta do something to make people sad when they go. FEEL SOMETHING, YOU TWATS"
@Ben-vf5gk4 жыл бұрын
I'll admit that is kinda what he did in Torchwood with Fragments happening right before exit wounds.
@ftumschk4 жыл бұрын
The only companion I don't really care for is Ryan, and this story did nothing to change that. Quite the opposite, in fact - the scenes with him and Tibo were so leaden and tedious that I actually shouted "Get on with it!" at the screen.
@jamesbelchertv5984 жыл бұрын
Well, it’s good to know that my constant claims about this episode’s pacing issue neutering the emotional impact because it was only one part until I was BLUE IN THE FUCKING FACE weren’t completely ignored or unshared...
@tylerhouston694 жыл бұрын
Stubagful: REMAKE AN ENTIRE AGAIN Doctor Who: Hmmm.... Doctor Who Fans: There are now 3 recasted doctors what timeline hell is this
@mathieuleader86014 жыл бұрын
can you hear me? would have been a great New Years special
@Thomas_of_the_forest4 жыл бұрын
4:10 Yes! Really wish they delved much more into each of their fears!
@leom79954 жыл бұрын
I love all of your reviews.
@carealoo7444 жыл бұрын
Had to turn up the brightness for this video.
@bostao42164 жыл бұрын
8:27 and we can also make the big evil Retconatron Renake Clara, the entirety of the Capaldi Era exept for Season 10, Twice Upon a Time (maybe it was but a dream) ,The End Of Time and maybe an 8th Doctor Season as a Bonus
@chrispy33694 жыл бұрын
Imagine if we get a 2 season animated arc written by Justin Roiland and Dan Harmon (the rick and morty creators). It could be like a psychedelic mindfuck, something like the Big Finish Divergent arc.
@CroneoRegion4 жыл бұрын
the twist was needed because the whole plot happened because of the Doctor's willingness to save people, only for it to backfire
@hobbabobba79124 жыл бұрын
It's as if even when Chibnall is on the right path, he somehow fucks it up and shits the bed.
@MorbyGanaWho4 жыл бұрын
8:24 or you can do all 12 series of modern doctor who but properly this time! :P
@menwithven28624 жыл бұрын
Stu what do you think of inside no9 so far. I love the Jenna Colman episode but won’t explain why because mega spoilers. And the Christmas one was really sweet.
@russelltietjen44074 жыл бұрын
Series 11 didn't have enough going on, but now series 12 has way too much going on.
@Alia-bc3rc4 жыл бұрын
"let's bring a new character, make him depressed, and wish people would really care about him. Also, just dump some new backstory on that girl, even though we never really showed she got any trouble-or character. Oh, that old guy with cancer, yeah, bring that shit up again. But he's just a comic relief. Who cares." it's a frickin PSA. *with a checklist.*
@joeespin43773 жыл бұрын
you wont see this villain again because the weeping angels, sontarens, and some other classic monsters will return. we will probab see real stone tear after chibs and his non sci- fi writers will totally ruin the angels
@Payne2view4 жыл бұрын
Yas ran away as a kid? That was supposed to be 3 years before present. She must have been a trainee/probationary Cop for a year and probably has travelled with the Doctor for a total of about a year. That gives barely any time for her to go from troubled teen to responsable enough to be a police officer to getting bored doing routine police work. Why didn't she bump into that inspirational woman Cop during her time at "Helenshire Police", the same district as her?
@moribundtoot81833 жыл бұрын
But WHY did Yaz run away from home? It never says. I hate this era of Who. Its just a whole load of setup with absolutely no payoff. Season 12 was only slightly more interesting than season 11 by a waver thin mint of a margin.
@pious834 жыл бұрын
Fleshed out as a two parter, the animated sequence would have been really interesting as the pre-credits sequence to part two, to be honest. I do think this series in particular highlights how completely superfluous Ryan is to the show. Both Graham and Yaz have really interesting moments of characterisation in their dream sequences. With Ryan they not only have to bring in a new friend, exploring His personality instead. But also reference the worst episode of the season.
@JontyLevine4 жыл бұрын
Yes! This review articulates SO MUCH of what I found frustrating with this episode while also acknowledging everything it did right. Though I may slightly disagree with you on the reason it felt pushed for time, and if I were rewriting it, I'd trim the superfluous themes as a first resort, and only make it a 2-parter as a last resort. Reason being is that I think Season 12 is just too crammed with _stuff._ Season 11 had problems, sure, but at least those episodes knew exactly what they were trying to be. Whereas Season 12 episodes are trying to be everything at the same time, and failing. Spyfall for instance was trying to be 1) a tech-themed dystopia, 2) a James Bond pastiche, 3) the surprise reveal of the Master, 4) some metaphysical thing about parallel universes, 5) HEY, DO YOU REMEMBER BLINK? 6) a War Story, 7) a historical adventure with some under-appreciated historical women, 8) the surprise reveal of Gallifrey and the TImeless Child. So yeah, despite having almost two hours to work with, it still ended up feeling utterly cramped and incoherent. So unless the writers learn to rein in that instinct, expanding a one-part episode into two parts is not going to fix the underlying issue. Tesla, Judoon, and Praxeus were all pretty bad offenders in that regard. I haven't seen Haunting yet, but it sounds like it has the same problem. Yet for all its other criticisms, I feel Orphan 55 actually struck the right balance here. It was the only one in the season so far where they picked a -good- _serviceable_ idea and stuck with it throughout the episode.
@MrAllallalla4 жыл бұрын
You can pick apart Murray Gold but I don't connect with Segun's score anywhere close to how I did with a lot of Murray's stuff.
@danielross52924 жыл бұрын
Yeah We Really Need Those Two parter Episodes again to make These Stories to Really Work Crew!😉
@jordang74794 жыл бұрын
Do you watch the Twilight zone? Because based on how you feel about Dr. Who I think it's right up your alley.
@zarrg56114 жыл бұрын
This episode did absolutely nothing for me and weird Doctor Who stories are usually my favourites.
@Cowmoo834 жыл бұрын
Although the episode is definitely overcrowded, the twist that Zellin used the Doctor’s very nature to advance his own agenda is very much in line with the idea that he was a metaphor for self-doubt. Taking the twist out would weaken the extended metaphor/theming that holds this episode together.
@OxbowisaMstie4 жыл бұрын
Fenric or GTFO, nuWho. ._.
@theneptuniansloth4 жыл бұрын
How difficult would it have been to forgo "Orphan 55" and make this a two-parter? Come on.
@Caredroia4 жыл бұрын
3.02 I Thought it was an advert for a new series of The Mighty Boosh.
@jeckjeck31194 жыл бұрын
Can't wait till you review next episode.
@DarkLordoftheMeme4 жыл бұрын
I agree this needed to be a two parter, Zelim reminded me of Nyarlathotep, but due to the rushed episode his defeat was just embarasingly easy. They could have done something with the Aleppo lady, the reaction of a character from the middle ages to the TARDIS and aliens might have been great, but instead she's just sort of there. Also Yaz's issues seem to have been dropped out of nowhere, why was she a runaway? What happened? There's not even an oblique hint of what motivates her. She also showed signs of PTSD in Spyfall...for exactly one scene and then seemed to be absolutely fine.
@themoxcast4 жыл бұрын
I agree, more horror. I also agree that it needed two parts. The animation sequence felt shoehorned and unnecessary. It was nice to see big, universal players in Doctor Who and, at this point in the revived series, that level of threat is welcome. Not to mention that the show desperately needs entities that are more powerful than the Doctor and older than the Time Lords. There's been too much focus on making the Doctor a small g god (I'm looking at you, Mr Moffat) and that really undermines any sense of threat from the villains.
@Tymbus4 жыл бұрын
Great review
@user-yf4gx9lw6c4 жыл бұрын
Can you hear me had so much potential but instead dedicated itself to a metaphor for depression that had been done much better under Steven Moffat. They should have left the depression message for some other episode because this would have been a perfect two parter that would have really given chibnall a victory over his critics.
@frazzlesreviews53794 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Ryan’s friends problem was agoraphobia
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN4 жыл бұрын
0:58-1:10 Jesus Christ
@liamsss4 жыл бұрын
No
@roguebritgravy14 жыл бұрын
I thought this was the chibnall version of a nightmare on elm street. Not bad but yeah try getting Freddy Krueger out of your head when u think zelin is basically Freddy except he just wants the nightmare and is 12
@saraphys55554 жыл бұрын
5:05 My favourite part of the review... Intentional or not, the idea that this Timelord who chose their travelling name as an identify TO HELP PEOPLE is now just dimissing a person -a companion- outright of their deepest fear. Im not even bothering to watch Doctor Who anymore, and I feel like stuff like ^that^ is a solid why.
@Ben-vf5gk4 жыл бұрын
I think it's a little more complicated than that, I didn't read them as dismissive, just unsure of how to help and not knowing what to say as between physiology, technology, and regeneration timelords do not get cancer
@TheWarpForge4 жыл бұрын
I think it's main issue is that there's too much for one episode. It's main issues is that it wants to talk about mental illness, defeat some meta-monsters and fill in the sci-fi jargon in 50mins. The Episode also brushes off The Doctors issues completely. She's just seen her race drstroyed for the second time. She's also depressed whilst cooling down from beating an insanely powerful villain and Graham talking about his Cancer. She's overwhelmed and this could have been a great character development scene IF they had more time. Graham could have called the Doctor out on it and the conversation could have been very interesting and it would have grown the characters even more imo.
@Ben-vf5gk4 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarpForge I didn't think 13 needed to be called out on her behaviour, she tried, she wanted to help and was about to that's more than some Doctors would do
@REFLEXiw4 жыл бұрын
Ma! I made it!
@jessica-mh3os4 жыл бұрын
I reckon it started off great but went downhill. The antagonists were better off as a mystery imo
@marky4374 жыл бұрын
when did a knock off Xmen Storm star in Dr Who lol
@nobodyshome46334 жыл бұрын
I just want Yaz to travel with the Doctor, and Graham to get a nice sendoff as he’s supposedly leaving at Christmas... I literally don’t care for Ryan at all. - Hopefully Zellin appears in Audio because what a fantastic villain.
@baconsalad97434 жыл бұрын
O no
@Yan_Alkovic4 жыл бұрын
Personally I felt next to nothing while watching this. Like, nothing. I totally missed all of the stuff that you and Nathaniel praise about this. But thankfully I was not irritated by it, so that’s really welcome! Yes, that’s a compliment in this era.
@namelessentity58514 жыл бұрын
The 'I'm socially awkward, so I don't know what to say' is some horseshit. Throughout the past 50-odd years of the show, it has managed on several occasions, to know how to inspire, calm, encourage, etc.... It is, by Hominid standards, ancient. It has seen, felt, and learned knowledge akin to a Demi-God. And personally, I've had social anxiety since I was about 9 ( I'm 49 now ) I honestly hyperventilated after spending 15 minutes in a mall, and I usually have to take a half a Valium when going out. And awkward!?.....good f'ing gods, that is a tale that would take up 50 paragraphs. Despite this, and despite being a social outcast, I have been told more then once that I have a good deal of empathy, and will generally find something to say to try and get the other persons' mind off whatever has them despondent. Don't get me wrong, I can still be a typical asshole, but I don't like to see people despair because I know that feeling very well, and I despise it.
@stevenborg1024 жыл бұрын
This 'Doctor' does not care about her companions. She doesn't even notice when they disappear for various scenes (*cough* Judoon ep *cough*). This is not the Doctor. This is Cosplay Doctor Amateur Hour and the show just needs to die.