PLAP, PLAP, PLAP'ers incoming.

HUH

ngnngg armpits.

Based

Now i'm curious about that tier list

im cursed with her on the standard banner, she's c8 now

I also have C6 Dori after I pulled in Wrio’s banner RIP

Day one dori available some reason I got her c6, well or very close not remember clearly

I got C6 Dori and Layla but only C1 Kuki during that banner and I'm still so mad about that lmao

@@duk6120 At least you got Kuki, she always evades my account.

Yeah feels like we’re back in 1.0 when everyone was praising Qiqi and shitting on Bennett

Hoyo has been really cooking lately trying to make units that are strong but don't quite fit in traditional teams, i like it as it can make niche characters finally find a home.

Im gonn abuild Qiqi with hunter set for furina lmao

bennet is better if you can do the high skill non intuitive rotations

@@luminous3558 too many rotation.

3 patches after the servers shut down is my personal bet.

Crit Kokomi with her plus Merechaussee sounds soo good rn!

You say it like other artifacts being blatantly powercrept is a good thing. Its not.

i think she'll also make the new 5 star weapons avaliable to more characters, doesn't she?

after khaenriya when the finally figure out abyss technology coz it sure as hell does not seem possible with their current technology. considering it took them 3 years to finally make the 5star character quest opt in after unlocking with key rather than auto start. like god damn took them that long to do that

Not a fan of indirect buffs. It still forces you into specific things and here this is pulling for Furina and building around her. But it's actually amazing that this happened at all.

​@@planetary-rendez-vousThat's more of a personal issue bcs for me, I'm glad that i get to actually use my Jean in meta teams.

The fact that Jean is now a relevant character after all this time of being stuck in the bench is incredible tbh. I hope they can do the same with some of the other old 5 stars and 4 stars in the future.

true

Eh, it's useful on Mona too.

HUGE OATHSWORN EYE WIN

I HAVE IT AT R4 LETS GOOOO

@@BulletSponge71436 I've used it on Mona ever since I got it, most comfortable pick (maybe fav is comfortable too, but I've only recently levelled it up enough to make it playable and it's on Baizhu)

C'mon let the man cook, 4-pc Maiden's Mona is gonna happen whether you like it or not

I use 2 piece maiden and 2 piece kokomi set on mona not a bad healer honestly

Prototype Amber Nahida goes hard.

I use Nahida with r5 PA as a healer. Enough for overworld and most abyss cycles. Also if you have c2 Furina, then just r5 PA can heal enough toget a lot of fanfare. 6%*3*4*2.5=180 (out of 250 that you need to max out) plus the 150 base is 330 fanfare.

​​@@countdeville4146with c2 it actually multiplies the stacks you get to 3.5x not 2.5x since its increases *by* 250% and not *to* 250% 6% * 3 * 4 * 3.5 + 150 = 402 stacks , just enough to max out

Yeah! Noelle mains, rise❤️

the Furina and Noelle team is half of the stuff I’ve been seeing on r/NoelleMains, so there is definitely plenty of hype for it

How much damage does she do?? My hu tao can do 70k

Zajef: Um actually that’s a downside ☝️🤓

​@@saltedjester4458furina being good for noelle =/= noelle being good for furina bro did everyone really miss his point 💀

Your cooking something for my 13 catalyst billets and already r5 proto amber

but what is the point of that? like jean and sayu heal more and don't have to ruin their optimal build. + with sucrose you can't go maidens or heal bonus circlet. the buff from maxing furina is more then u get with sucrose that has to build er to burst every rotarion reliably and has to go er sands probably. so not a lot of EM left which means the gap between llike 500 EM (at best) and protorype heals (r5 with like what... 90 stacs with heal bonuc cirtlet with a bunch of EM or ER so 90*0.25%*party members) sucrose is less than u get from Sayu (200*0.25%*party members). With mona (yanfei) you can do it because whole point of mona is to use burst and to do so all you need is ER (and hp for c4 yanfei shield which is ok since prototype gives hp and ER) and they don't have a perfect set like VV for sucrose so they can go maidens and heal like a little more and be still useful for their main role (to buff or to shield). with nahida it depends, if you need a lot of dendro like in hyper bloom or nilou bloom (which is why u go nahida since she has more dendro than baizhu or yaoyao) you can go prototyper nahida even with deepwood, but you don't really need furina buff is such team cuz most of it damage comes from blooms, so lower amout of stacks is not that bad for overall team dps

The point is literally just grouping + healing on one character. I fully understand that it might not be an ideal choice, but it's a decent option in some team comps people may want to run. @@chico_ua

@@PazuChill Swap Mona for Nuevillette and maybe.

​@@PazuChilluhh just to know that ur likely to miss out of half of the buff in the first rotation and 2/3 of the buff in the second rotation or more wich is not very profitable as like p amber + maiden could overcome furina hp reduction for the first 6 second ( which means no VV so its a rlly big downgrade ) so I wouldnt rlly reccommend u guys using p amber.

But we have a new Geo unit coming that might synergize with both Furina and Noelle

As a Noelle user that has a non-C6 Gorou, I see this as an absolute win.

Just make a team around Noelle 4Head (I will do it, finally I can unbench Noelle 😤)

Time to bench Zhongli or Yunjin. Go Noelle, Albedo, and Gorou.

​@@infra_r3d133umm no, she doesnt have hp-lost gimmick like other fontainian. And want to be with more elemental character than put another geo chara

that's not how that works. U still loose that 46% dmg and swap it to 46% atk. Yes, atk (def or EM) goblets are now VIABLE options close (but in general still worse but with furina the gap is a lot smaller to the point when it just depends on which goblet has better substats). But you don't make up for TTDS loss at all, because with TTDS it's external buff, not something that you have on your baseline.

@@chico_ua TTDS increases ATK as any other thing, wdym? Base ATK is always only the innate atk value + weapon's base ATK of a character. TTDS is an ATK% increase, just like a normal artifact piece.

@@incognitoman9420 You're confused, baseline isn't referring to base attack but to the total stat package of that character alone. Changing your goblet doesn't change the fact that you're losing an entire stat block (TTDS which is like having a 6th artifact's main stat) in exchange for the fav proc as a trade off.

@@emmanuel_40 oh yeah ik that, obviously not running ttds will always be worse than running ttds but what i meant is that you're not literally "losing" this atk, as running a dmg goblet wouldnt be optimal anyways pretty sure double atk artifacts + ttds will already hit ayakas diminishin returns too lol

I mean, he doesnt know what he is talking about what so ever. Baizhu is better then every single healer atm, like, insanely better. The only team where you would wanna run Jean instead is HuTao, cuz burgeons will mess up the whole screen(So basically 0 reason) + In most teams, you would just run Fufu+Kazuha+Baizhu anyway, and we all know that unlike Jean, Kazuha has actual real CC, and he has like half of Furina's buff. And the most funny thing, he put Barbruh in C cuz healing is the only thing she does, and then Jean, who doesnt do shit apart from healing is S

Jean is higher than Barbara because of VV

@@Porphey wow, REALLY? I FOR SURE DID NOT KNOW THIS, RIGHT?

True. Putting Kokomi above Baizhu is a major blunder since Kokomi eats away at your Hypercarries’ field time just to party heal in Furina teams.

@@championabovechampions5550 you literally just wrote Jean doesn't do anything besides healing, while VV is a non-neglectable buff for the whole team. Idk why you have to be so toxic, chill

Having a built Dori however is

​@@sharkeatinpizzaAgree + agree , I got c5 dori and got lucky from early wrio. Many ppl prolly got c6. But yea I don't ever see a situation where i'll level her past 20 in the near future/at all. I'll prolly build the mid pyro claymore babies (diluc, dehya, xinyan) first over her lol.

1) who summoned for rizzly instead of waiting for archon? 2) rerun banners are not that popular and not many people pull on them. so yeah it is pretty rare to have c6 dori

​@@PoseidonOSsflawed argument. Nobody rolled for baizu . So he's now d tier

@@PoseidonOSs Wriothesley is hot ofc people pulled for him

Just use amenoma

​@@skyflakes145 yeah just use Amenoma or sapwood, or fav. since it's only two stats you need to focus on the most which is attack and ER. not to mention one of her ascencion passives also helps with some of her er reqs.

Hes just simping for Yao Yao this is why he is always talking shit about him💀

yeah, my Baizhu has 54k hp and 193 ER with PA.

​​@@Maria-.-KimValid reason too cuz a 5* healer (same element) shouldn't be just a side-grade to a 4* healer 💀

@@felipepoffohow much does his elemental skill heal for?. I’m considering getting him after furina

@@felipepoffoDamnn my Baizhu has 190% ER with 49k HP. Are you using two pieces of 2pc HP artifacts?

the main problem with that is that your rotation is fucked up. you need to: Dori EQ swap - Furina EQ and by the end of animations you probably have to spend more time on furina (losing 4pc bonus) not doing anything for like 2 more seconds - swap to heal dori (a lot of base hp so like 2-4 seconds as well) - and then a 3rd character is okay (usually doing EQ she will already heal a characher like fishl or someone else with low base hp) - and only then you go back to which leaves you with a lower field time for your main on-fielder. (or if it's a quickswap team still you just waste time by sitting on furina and dori doing nothing while you loose time you could use a driver like surcose/heizou etc)

Plus, in coop she heals everyone

@@MrJavilink Didn't know that. Can i assume she gives energy to everyone as well?

Correct. The only downside really is her gameplay, but if you are up for a rotation with her staying no more than 4 to 5 secs, then she's also a good option.

This is what I've been saying, SMH.

It's not really an issue.

And her circle is bigger so easier circle impact

She should have been above Jean. Circle not pushing out trash mob + better on field driving with her E

​@@nonamepasserbya6658but she have to take time on field, can use subdps who needs them, and also she can be push out of her skill (and can't dodge) Her tier place is fine (if C6)

@@cleod7439 She doesn't use XQ Yelan (she doesn't NA), XIangling Bennett can be used seperately. Nahida mandates a Bloom comp regardless of Jean or Sayu. Sayu wins Also Sayu can heal with her skill which 100% makes her better for Furina

​@@cleod7439well Jean's past nuke healing isn't the best either, she won't heal the other characters and only A1 Furina will help heal the other teams, thus Jean will have to be on field normal attacking so it still results in healers being on field. Furina just makes it to where healers deuve something meaningfully AKA the stacks towards her buffs. C6 Sayu would work for forward vape since Sayu snapshots her rolls and absorbs pyro. Sac or Fav on Sayu, or even the Makhaira claymore to increase her and team ER, or use Mailed Flower to buff her healing on burst even more. Jean doesn't do much swirl damage. She's more a raw dps healer type. Sayu when she hits C6 definitely does. She swirls many times in large AoE and damage is increased by her EM. Sayu is heavily underrated and her C6 merges her split scaling like it does with Noelle and Xinyan.

Not exactly. She will be under 50% which prevents further HP drain past the rotation and nerf the pets' damaage.

@flamezforthegamez1056 of course I'd never intend to use her as the only sustain. She'll need a healer, but in terms of teams, she losing her hp that fast increase your stacks at the very beginning. That's very useful (30% in 1 second)

She's a bit like Benny. She can heal the on-fielder and has that headstart, but will probably want a Prototype Amber user in the mix, at the very least.

I’m so jealous 😭 Jean is one of the only standard characters I want, but of course hoyo knows that so I get literally everyone else

Mines C5 Also and have been waiting to find a team for her to fit into :)

​@@whyismynametaken123Everyone forgot Sunfire is a thing. 😢

Does that compensate noblesse though?

lmao people still trying to make bennett work after all this time

@@mandom5714 Will probably depend on the team. If you are using HP scalers like furina and yelan, noblesse is useless.

@@Stormtide Technically bennett can be the best option in some teams even with furina, his buff is so big that it ends up compensating for the loss from furina's stacks and E damage.

​@@musicaddict9058i'm now confused, if you play him with hp scalers then what's the point of playing bennett

If you don't want to reduce Atk, you can go with Amenoma. It is an Atk% weapon that refunds you a ton of energy.

fr my 170er kokomi with proto amber always has enough to burst whenever

​@@mickysaifmines 145 and amber and it is enough

I have kokomi but I would never use her with furina. It’s definitely not ideal healing one person at a time on field or having to keep her on field to heal with her ult. Jean does a much better job.

@@user-rx1bo3ev3vmain dps koko is the way

@@user-rx1bo3ev3v Except Kokomi works really well with Furina teams (Mono Hydro and Taser). On field Kokomi actually does pretty good damage and not really a downside.

c0 is more than enough. for charlotter probaly fav

True prototitype amber come from cope weapon to i need more catalyst billets in 1 nation

i have 16 catalyst billets. It’s time to use them.

Jean’s circle doesn’t matter because you press the button and team is full healed, don’t have to care about the circle

@@MsPoopyinthepotty its nice for furinas A4 passive and just swirling for VV tho and if you are running fav then fav proccs too

@@MsPoopyinthepotty You also need to heal the HP drained after the nuke heal, and thats not gonna suddenly give you max stacks, so yeah, the circle impact size still matters.

@@EliiKlee You need to be on field to proc vv and fav so it won't matter. You don't want to stay on Jean for that long.

@@flamezforthegamez1056 no circle doesnt matter, at least from 2nd rotation onward. Burst heal -> Pet drain HP -> burst heal again -> pet drain Hp -> repeat. Starting from 2nd rotation onward where most of your team member already lost ~50% HP, jean burst heal actually give you tons of free fanfare stack

furina will not buff hyperbloom, burgeon, bloom, etc reaction but she will buff quicken reaction

Hyperbloom/Burgeon's dmg is only affected by the character's level and the EM stat of the electro/pyro trigger respectively. Dmg bonus from Furina will not affect it. With Kokomi it's already a quickbloom team because while she has good hydro app it's a bit slow when compared to XQ/Yelan. I'm not sure if the two together would be enough hydro app to change that, someone else would need to comment on it.

Same as other Archons like Raiden and Nahida, her role ups I'm with c2 and after that she changes her function as supporter to a hyper carry. AFAIK c1 is the one giving her more charges.

@@Syokool Well it’s not really the same per se imo. Nahida C2 just takes her current teams and makes them stronger but nothing else really changes. With C2 raiden she simply gets stronger and hyper raiden is no longer weaker than rational. Zhongli just becomes better in co-op at C2 and venti doesn’t really change much. C2 Furina feels like it could make completely new teams that wouldn’t have worked before. C1 gives her an immediate 150 stacks when she pops her burst and increases the cap. C2 gives her stacks much quicker by multiplying them & any overflow increases her HP.

It depends on what your ER is on your other characters in the teams. If your struggling to get your bursts back after your rotation Fav would supplement that a bit. Amenoma almost completely fills Jeans burst after she uses it. Mine is only at Refinement 3 and it take her burst to halfway. Uncertain about what it is at R5 I'll have to check. Or someone else can report it.

I would probably get the C1. PAmber already gives you the HP and energy that Jadefall does; however, the C1 gives you an extra teamwide heal and more energy to fuel your burst through the second E charge.

I'd definitely go c1 because then after that you are also that much closer to his c2

the energy of jadefall i'm afraid is just to himself i'm afraid like it's not shared. Jadefall does provide better stats but the passive is just not cutting it when the damage bonus isn't shared.

Get C1 Baizhu. You’ll get an extra Skill charge which will help you with his ER. Prototype Amber is very much enough for Baizhu. Jadefall Splendor is not worth it when Prototype Amber exists.

wow just like... yaoyao! all that is different is that u have to spend 4 seconds insdead of 2 (like baizho)

@@chico_ua you can say that about nahida and Dendro mc Yelan and xingqui Yae and fischl

Fr he’s so biased with yaoyao and for some reasons he has something against baizhu

Normal build, VV er sands, atk/anemo cup, crit/atk circlet

Just the same normal jean build as said by the first guy. Her heals are based on atk and she already has a high burst team wide heal. Jean is just a heal bot and elemental shred if your using VV which is a must anyway.

@@captjp140 I'd say ER sands, ATK cup, and HB/Crit circlet ATK cup to increase healing and make up for ER sands, probably more valuable in most scenarios than Anemo DMG because her personal damage doesn't matter all that much HB circlet would give more healing than ATK, and Crit for fav

Semi-trash healing, requires burst for teamwide heal and requires on field time for more heals. Skill heals too little and too slow

@mabel2908 Her healing is above average, she heals the whole team with basic atks and/or charge atks which is good because she could also act as a driver on field . Her field time could be long or short depending on the team comp. She should at minimum be rated B because she can keep the whole team healthy giving Furina all she needs to buff the team, she's not complicated to play, she can either act as a white particular funnel with fav or an extra buff with thrilling tales. Hydro resonance also gives extra Hp to the team buffing her, furina and giving extra survivability to the team. She not top tier but she has enough assets to make her good enough if that's what players have on hand or if that's who they want to invest and play with.

The problem with Barbara is she requires being on field to be useful and that's taking DPS time away from other characters. You never want to normal attack with Barbara except in Nilou teams, which basically makes her a trash healer for furina

​@@jack5mikemotownthat's a lie, bc her elemental skill does indeed change to whatever character is active, and her ultimate is fine if you built her correctly.

​@@mabel2908you haven't upgraded your Barbara yet right? There's no way someone says this when there are new sets of artifacts that up Barbara healing by a lot, and in terms of pure healing and speed of healing, she's easily top4 just behind Yaoyao. The problem with Barbara is people that still can't build her right. Like they will try to make her work with tales, hydro damage, cr, etc. And not, nowadays she's better with prototype and 2x2 sets to up her role. Also relying on her ultimate was always no good.

Always constellations for Furina they’re bigger upgrades

@@Marz333Thanks, dunno how many I will get, but will try to get C2 maybe, but dunno, her sword looks quite good for her.

In the average team, you can expect your characters to have no more than ~40k hp. Since Furina drains hp to 50%, you’d want your Jean to heal 20k max. While Amenoma massively boosts Jean’s healing, Furina gives an effective 30% healing bonus with 300 fanfare stacks, so that means that it’s easier to get sufficient healing on a Fav Jean. I had the same dilemma myself, but eventually settled on fav because the energy was that valuable to my teams. Hope you can find what works best for you (Also I prefer to run atk/atk/heal, but that’s just me)

@@ladygrey7707 okay okay thxxx I had fav on Jean but seeing the video I hesitated to put Amenoma on her. I have to stay on crit raté circlet ‘cause I don’t have good enough VV pieces lmao

you dont benefit from 300 stacks moslty cuz you rotations are longer than 15 sec and more like 20 sec. So you will use Jean burst with like 20 stacks at the start of it's rotation@@ladygrey7707

i did a little calc for you. r5 amenoma if u do 2 jean E's per rotation -her ER needs are like 115-130 ER (depending on the team). Can go ATK sands -Furina ER needs as a solo hydro on fav (r3-r5) are 180-200% -Jean heals on cast 17.5k (atk atk hb) each member r5 amenoma with only 1 E per rotation: -Jean's ER = 180-200% (ER sands is a need) -Furina ER = 200% (more or less) same weapon and solo hydro -Jean heals on cast 15.5k (ER atk hb) Fav (r3-r5) 2 E's: -Jean 160-170 ER (basically means that you can go ATK sands and get few ER substats overall) -Furina 150-160 ER (same. fav. solo hydro) -Jean heals 11.2k (Atk atk crit) OR 15k (Atk atk hb if you already have cr from substats) Fav (r1 or r5 doesn't really matter here) but only 1 E - Jean needs 210-230 ER (so probaly ER sands? cuz you need 50-70 more ER outsude of Fav's baseline 60 ER) -Furina 170-190 same everything as before. -Jean heals 10k (er atk crit) or 13k (er atk hb) If you use Festering on Furina Jean's ER needs jump up (in teams with only 1 E difference is actualy noticeable to like 250 ER). If you go fav you need CR which means probably a CR circlet instead of healing bonus So in conclusion - anemona is much better in teams where you can do 2 jean E's and you actually need that much healing (Naviletter, Yelan, Hutao (if has over 30k hp) etc). As for 1 E per rotation also nice, maybe a lillte overkill since i can't think of hp scaler that can't do 2 jean E per rotation). Note: r1-2 amenona's might have to run ER sands even with 2 E's anyway so less healing. - -- - - -- - as for fav it helps a lot your Furina so Furina can focus more on her personal dmg. Healing with fav in most cases might be enough cuz most characters have like 18k-23k hp and even lowest (10k heals) will only mean that only your furina might be not fully healed but the rest of the party will be. So make a choice depending on your artefacts and team. Hope that helped

@@chico_ua oh my god ily! Thanks sooo much that was actually helpful like a lot🫶

Her self hp draining isn’t much actually, only 20% of her current hp pool which means it will give less stacks over time. And she only heals on-field character for a small amount(2-3k) so the entire team won’t have enough hp for the next rotation

but she only heal on field

@@ayamPENYETZ Yes but that adds on to Furina's passive of Overhealing

@@Gaurang_Karande but its gonna be clunky to heal off field teammate, and idk if 2% of ally max hp per 2 second is gonna be enough

Her burst also heals no?

then it will become an issue with barbara and furina because furina is a very slow energy generation, barbara doesn't generate energy. both are energy hungry. what should you do? only mono hydro team viable? that is so niche considered most team need hydro for support. not considering wet stats on barbara on yourself is an L to cyro enemies.

@@franciswoo3268 Itto, Gorou, Furina, Barbara. Gorou on Fav and Exile set. Barbara on either Fav or Prototype Amber. Furina on Fav. I think this will work. It won't be a SMOOTH rotation and some energy funneling will be required but who cares when you will easily 36* abyss with this setup. I'm not talking about speed run here.

Problem is Barbara's intermittent healing is sluggish. it's every 5 seconds, and every 5 seconds is a chance that you will get frozen, vaporized, or stunned by electro charged. As a driver, she would be okay as a budget Kokomi. She will get much better with 4.3 artifact's set.

@@blackwaltz2363 Well, gorou himself also is a hungry er issue with low energy generation. That's why they have 3 geo team or mono geo team in the first place. character like albedo or geo mc will be providing alot of energy instead. Gorou without full 3 unit also have less geo bonus damage. Moreover Itto er with triple geo and fav + exile also personally requires about 120-135%. How much ER does he need when you only made up with only 2 geo which is especially lacking one of their biggest er supplier? this will scale his er requirement higher and made his stats lower instead. I'm pretty sure it should not have er issue fighting normal mobs or multiple enemies in abyss. But what about mini boss with high hp? I'm positive that the hardest content in abyss is vs boss enemies and not mobs. So you're focusing your stats build against easy mob instead of harder mobs? Duo geo unit and duo hydro unit all have er issue, 1 of each element dealing close to 0 dmg as well only leave up to furina and itto to deal dmg. Brilliant! Probably one the worst pairing for them. Funneling energy? All of them needed it lol. IF you really easily can defeat abyss easily with this setup (i'm talking about abyss after 4.4 or 4.5 because current and upcoming abyss buff is catering for banner character after all). Then you congratulation! You've over-farmed or min maxed out your character. Guides are mainly for under-farmed player especially new ones where they don't have stats like 70/180 crit above like yours.

@@franciswoo3268 I'm used to energy funneling xiangling. It's not that bad. If the team does enough damage, which this team will, then you can afford to spend some time funneling. This isn't spreadsheet impact. You don't need a perfect rotation and exact ER requirements. You just need to 36* abyss, which can be done with only 4* characters. Gorou is optimized for ER and CR. Furina is 60 cost burst. With three favs, Gorou and Furina will have their burst up. Only one with problems would be Barbara, but it doesn't matter because she can just E and NA for a few seconds and burst every other rotation. Her E will passively heal Barb, then Gorou, then Itto. Should be able to max out Furina by the time you get Itto burst up. Yes wet status is annoying but not a huge deal anyway. Theory crafters way over exaggerate stuff like this.

he just hates baizhu for some reason and can't admit that he's good lmao

he doesnt "hate" anyone. god he even said few days ago that he thinks about pulling Baizhu. It's just that before furina yaoyao did all the work as good as Baizhu. Now faster healing means something so Baizhu has an upside. Also it's true that Baizu has ER problems. like 200 er is still a something you should get @@carolion2635

Charlotte's burst seems to be better, since it provides an instant team-wide heal plus short off-field healing for the active character.

TTDS :) (bro doesn't know that Charlotte has massive ER problems Sadge)

Transformative reactions don't get buffed by Furina, so there is little to no benefit from EM Jean.

Transformative don't get buffed by Furina so you never run Jean in HB anyway. Stick with high EM if you run Hutao, Heal/ATK if Neuv

My guess is that it's because Kuki can trigger Furina's overhealing passive (which gives her some AOE healing) but Bennett can't because he can't cap anyone's HP. I still think Kuki is a bit cope for Furina, but that's probably the overall idea as to why Kuki > Bennett.

He would work, but Eagleplume would not trigger.

The extra healing besides the initial cast is unnecessary with Neuvillette anyway because he himself is HP positive and will get you full Fanfare with no problem

Pretty sure her fanfare stacks do not carry over even if you're able to get a second burst off before the first one's duration is over.

I mean, he is ranking them looking at everything the can support with, and with that weapon + set combination mona is as good as bennet for furina teams. I see her in a decent ranking (if he was only ranking the amount of healing she would be in a different place, but not for much)

With two PAmber R5 on the team, the need for ER% for the entire team will be lower and I will be able to put Jade Cutter on Furina since it is Double Hydro + 2 P.Amber R5

And since I don't have Neuvillette's BiS weapon, it won't change the overall dmg of Lost Prayer to P.Amber 😅

If you have a copy of Keqing, just use her in quickbloom with Fischl, Koko/Barbs, nahida.

LOL! I have a C4 Qiqi Atk/ Atk /Atk 2100 total Atk and 215% ER using a Festering Desire >. Heals 5.5k per elemental tic . As that weapon will pass to Furina . She will increase her ER and Atk a bit more , Around 230% ER after I put her on a Skyward weapon I have around .

my Kokopiu has 142 ER with Oathsword Eye - fits her aesthetics and color scheme

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I have HP/hydro/HB with 180% ER on PA

She always was. The downside of Barbara was being a catalyst user and the speed of her attacks.

Qiqi just heals way more cause of talismans which I assume is the reasoning

@@KawabungaDude ohhh okay

@@Xochi_Mictlan okay. thank u

He is assuming everyone has QIqi cons for some reason. C6 Barbara beats C0 Qiqi outright thanks to Hydro reso particles + Cost lowering cons

@@nonamepasserbya6658 Bro, have you ever read Qiqi's cons? They don't increase her healing at all. C0 Qiqi does beat literally every healer in the game in term of sustained off-field single target healing and on-field teamwide healing. + Fav Qiqi still heals like crazy, Barbara is great but can't be even compared to Qiqi, her talisman is something else.

Agree! Noelle is more like Wriothesley and Neuvilette since she's a Hypercarry/Driver and not a support. For Qiqi her healing is insanely good, she can max out Furina's stacks pretty easily, provides cryo res, max out Clam set's dmg (around 30k AoE off-field dmg every 3s), and use Fav while keeping her healing at S tier. "Can only overheal" isn't a problem anymore! Overhealing IS usefull now! And he didn't talk about their potential as drivers, Noelle, Qiqi, Kokomi, and Barbara are all top tier drivers with Furina since they can heal with every hit, Qiqi hyperfridge is gonna be something else with Furina.

They are not higher because this isn’t about just how much healing they do, it’s about what they provide the team. Barbara and qiqi ONLY heal, and Barbara doesn’t even make particles to charge herself up

@@MsPoopyinthepottyQiqi neither

@@lafeechloe6998 Yeah, I don't understand how Barbara is low cuz she doesn't generate energy then he talks about qiqi...who also doesn't. Plus qiqi is EVEN WORSE since she is cryo and gets LESS energy from for example Furina than Barbara. He lost me here, lol.

@@Dubstep_Gun Qiqi's healing is TOO HIGH that you can use Favonius with her with +200% and +50% crit rate and still keeps her healing at S tier. So yeah, Fav Qiqi has almost no ER problems, and if you have her C1 that's an extra energy. When we ever get something similar to Clam set that make use of the overhealing, she will easly go to A or even S tier, her healing is THAT good.

@@Dubstep_Gun Qiqi heals a ton more throughout though, plus you have to remember the hydro aaura spell Barbara puts on you, so you can intermittently get stuck in a frozen state, which is terrible for healing when you are pushed to half your health. Both characters can use Fav. Both characters have a constellation to reduce energy needs, BUT Qiqi's skill has faster healing within their pasive healing. Barbara skill heals 4 times, each every 5 seconds, which isnt' great for quick stacking buffs. Qiqi has the freedom to swap in and out plus Ocean Hued is just more synergistic with her. Barbara will become more meta than Qiqi with the 4.3 artifact set since Barbara is one of the few to teamwide nuke heal.

Must be the reason why I accidentally got my first jean not long ago in standard banner

I've gotten c9 Jean across 5 accounts... she won't leave me alone.

Depends of cons. VV shred, Atk speed buffs, anemo shred, and huge damages mitigation at c6

Xiphos on kuki instead of iron sting. And if you talking about alhaitham, you will want to split uptime with anyways if you using furina

​@@supermattchan837 hmm... interesting cause what i normaly do is use Alhaitham until Kuki's Ring Expires, since he depends on alot imo. maybe it's because i tend to start q first. like my rotations without nahida are Yelan E,Q(or if you have c1 then E,E,Q), Yaoyao E since i run instructors, and Shinobu E and then Al's Q and CA and then save his E and CA for the next rotation. if it's with nahida then it's Nahida Q, Nahida E(EQ if i use fave), Yelan E, Yelan Q, Shinobu E, and Then Al Q and CA, and then save his e and CA for the next one.

Have you hit his ER reqs and bursting every rotation?

@@sharkeatinpizza what ER reqs tho? If he is on R5 amber he probably doesn't need more that 110-115%. That's just 2-3 rolls into er substat

@@sharkeatinpizza You shouldn't ask that question for a freaking DPS who is priotized to catch particles

Same question.