Hear how DIFFERENT If Eternity Should Fail DEMO sounded first | IRON MAIDEN Reaction

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After hiding it from the Iron Maiden fans for 8 years Bruce Dickson finally released the demo version of If Eternity Should Fail, which saw the world as a B-side of The Afterglow of Ragnarok single of Bruce Dickinson's new solo album The Mandrake Prokect. So let's take a deeper look into the If Eternity Should Fail demo, compare it to the version which has made it on the Book of Souls and that we already know, and then see how this Iron Maiden classic would have sounded like without Steve Harris's magic touch. And which version do you like most?
00:00 - Intro
00:19 - In case you don't know
01:00 - Obvious changes
04:37 - Not Maiden enough
07:26 - Verdict
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@MetalPilgrim
@MetalPilgrim 6 ай бұрын
Check out this my Iron Maiden/Judas Priest/Motorhead inspired Christmas merch here while it lasts - metalpilgrim.net/products/metal-christmas-t-shirt *And which version of the song do you like more?*
@ricardocosta7482
@ricardocosta7482 6 ай бұрын
The Maiden one actually... 😁
@davidebasile9422
@davidebasile9422 6 ай бұрын
apart from "If eternity should fail (Demo)" by Bruce Dickinson, and "If eternity should fail" by Iron Maiden, there is also "Eternity has failed" from the upcoming album. It will probably be an evolution of the demo song, I am curious.
@gdr1174
@gdr1174 6 ай бұрын
It's great that Bruce and Steve can have this relationship in trading songs between different solo and bands pursuits
@4stringz.
@4stringz. 6 ай бұрын
Nicko’s drums take it to a whole new level
@mikehosken4328
@mikehosken4328 6 ай бұрын
Great opening to a fantastic album, seeing it performed live was epic.
@juancarlosnunezf96
@juancarlosnunezf96 6 ай бұрын
I'm an old-school Maiden Fan. This is the song that definitively opened my mind to the New Maiden Era and it's now one of my all-time favorites. Up the Irons!!!
@kby3141
@kby3141 6 ай бұрын
Same!
@humanactivated1017
@humanactivated1017 6 ай бұрын
I just can’t take the time to give any new maiden a chance .
@KhukuriGod
@KhukuriGod 6 ай бұрын
@@humanactivated1017 Haven't bothered with Maiden since The Final Frontier. They have solid albums from Brave New World through Dance of Death and finally to A Matter of Life and Death. But I don't like any album they've made after these. Each of these newer albums have exactly one song I enjoy, but the rest just sound weird and off imo. Obviously, the vast majority of fans disagree with me, but that's their prerogative.
@BSeab1024
@BSeab1024 5 ай бұрын
@@humanactivated1017 I have been a Maiden fan since a friend gave me Powerslave back in 1985. If I had to pick between the classic albums with Bruce (Number of the Beast through Fear of the Dark) or the new albums with Bruce (Brave New World through Senjutsu) I would have a very hard time making that choice. The classic stuff is more metal with the newer stuff being more proggy (which I like.) Speaking of giving things a chance, have you ever listened to Bruce's Skunkworks album? I love it. It is the least metal of his solo records but it is great hearing his voice being used for a different style of music.
@ghastlynavigator
@ghastlynavigator 6 ай бұрын
Maidens version is a serious upgrade. Cool to hear the demo but no way it is replacing maidens in my stereo.
@xierotron
@xierotron 6 ай бұрын
Only a demo tho
@humanactivated1017
@humanactivated1017 6 ай бұрын
No way you just don’t know heavy metal demos .
@coloneltrumpman
@coloneltrumpman 6 ай бұрын
Which part of "demo" you don't understand?
@vprado1981
@vprado1981 5 ай бұрын
Aos "especialistas" acima, o veredito do vídeo traduz muito bem o sentimento do colega que fez o comentário 😉
@jamesleyda365
@jamesleyda365 6 ай бұрын
Roy sounded f***ing awesome
@42147
@42147 6 ай бұрын
Really looking forward to hear one more version of the song when the Mandrake Project comes out.
@makouras
@makouras 6 ай бұрын
Roy Z needs to produce a Maiden album!
@ToniaGlitched
@ToniaGlitched 6 ай бұрын
I still didn't get to listen the DEMO version yet, nor does I know how to find the original upload of it on KZfaq yet, dunno why, but from what I've seen on this video, damn, it's actually v cool
@arthurwulfrun
@arthurwulfrun 5 ай бұрын
You’ll have to buy the single “Afterglow of Ragnarok” then
@ToniaGlitched
@ToniaGlitched 5 ай бұрын
@@arthurwulfrun oooh so that's why, will try to do that later on, when I get employed then
@maidenmovies
@maidenmovies 6 ай бұрын
one of the best tracks in reunion era and overall too.. 100 % pure MAIDEN... the intellectual theme and the lyrics are absolutely great and the title of the song make it an absolute masterpiece
@TheLukaCeeChannel
@TheLukaCeeChannel 6 ай бұрын
Great Video! This is possibly my favorite track on Book. Or a very close 1st or 2nd to the Title track. Very interesting background on the song. I do like the tempo picked. But I am really looking forward to Bruce's version. The Demo version sounds great, also.
@TheGreatestVoice1958
@TheGreatestVoice1958 6 ай бұрын
Best singer that ever lived. Facts.
@AmericanNationalist852
@AmericanNationalist852 6 ай бұрын
Halford? Yeah, you're right 😏
@TheGreatestVoice1958
@TheGreatestVoice1958 6 ай бұрын
@@AmericanNationalist852 I love Rob Halford, but Bruce has the more powerful and better voice.
@AmericanNationalist852
@AmericanNationalist852 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheGreatestVoice1958 Bruce never hit a G#6, but i guess we'll have to agree to disagree lol 🤘
@alantinoalantonio
@alantinoalantonio 6 ай бұрын
Fact. In metal, its Bruce, Dio, and Halford. Sometimes, interchangeably. Metal greats include Geoff Tate, Michael Kiske, Ozzy, Eric Adams, Sebastian Bach (peak), John Bush, Joey Belladona, Phil (CFH), and more. For me, Bruce is second only to Robert Plant. Ian Gillan deserves his praise as well.
@TheGreatestVoice1958
@TheGreatestVoice1958 6 ай бұрын
@@AmericanNationalist852 Halford’s highest note is C6. Bruce’s highest note is C#6 which is a semitone higher.
@azgast
@azgast 6 ай бұрын
The fact that we are even comparing Roy's bedroom demo to a Kevin Shirley's album production (or "production") is already telling more than enough. Hopefully Eternity doesn't have to do as much heavy lifting on The Mandrake Project as it did on the Book of Souls.
@josecolonguadarrama5463
@josecolonguadarrama5463 6 ай бұрын
I love your videos. None bias reviews. If eternity should fail is one of my favorite songs. I have already purchase the TMP and can’t wait to hear that version of the song. Thank you and God bless Ukraine.
@specs8426
@specs8426 6 ай бұрын
I expected a lot more difference, like more Roy-Z style than Maiden. But the demo was already hyper Maidenish harmonics. I am actually more thrilled to hear the reworked version (as I understood correctly) that will be a new song on the album based on it?
@coloneltrumpman
@coloneltrumpman 6 ай бұрын
When I heard the Maiden version years ago, I thought the song had Roy Z all over it. It was the only song I liked in the album (minus the cheesy "let's play the same thing faster, sloppier and without any groove" bit towards the end of the song. It's actually the best Maiden song since The Chemical Wedding 😉
@MatthewGClarke
@MatthewGClarke 6 ай бұрын
I find it difficult to judge Bruce's original version: Firstly, it's a demo so who knows how it would have sounded once finished for the album! Secondly, we're all used to the dynamism of the Maiden song and it definitely makes it work as an album opener, but you could see Bruce's version slotting in as a mid-album track very nicely 👌
@roiben-yehuda5642
@roiben-yehuda5642 6 ай бұрын
Your channel should have a lot more subscribers. Keep it up!
@garystrat999
@garystrat999 6 ай бұрын
I personally like Roy’s mix a lot more than Kevin’s . But maidens got better dynamic.
@francescoporcari8597
@francescoporcari8597 6 ай бұрын
I love the raw sounds of the demo. they are even better than those of the "afterglow of ragnarok"
@linkvagar2336
@linkvagar2336 6 ай бұрын
Off topic, but i wish Maiden would get Roy Z to produce their albums
@arthurprediger4054
@arthurprediger4054 6 ай бұрын
Where can I listen to the demo version?
@Rastard12345
@Rastard12345 6 ай бұрын
On the upcoming album, like the Pilgrim said 1000 times
@arthurprediger4054
@arthurprediger4054 6 ай бұрын
@@Rastard12345 The upcoming album is going to have the new version of it, Idk about the demo one. And I mean, the man showed bits of it, from where he got it?
@resonance57
@resonance57 6 ай бұрын
I heard the demo on You Tube Music a few days ago. Maybe it is still there . Put Bruce Dickinson in the search engine.
@digizilla164
@digizilla164 6 ай бұрын
Would like to hear the full version.
@muzlp
@muzlp 6 ай бұрын
I mean kudos to Bruce & Roy for coming out with this awesome song in the first place! Both version are awesome but if we want to go into details the drum alone already made the Maiden's version better, that's why Maiden is one of the best band in the world as every member of the bands has different creative inputs to enhance any song they made.
@danw4490
@danw4490 6 ай бұрын
I can't wait to hear this. I should have it soon!
@BSeab1024
@BSeab1024 5 ай бұрын
Great job putting this video together. It was seamless how you integrated the two versions of the song. In the video you included some interview clips (without sound.) Is that interview available on KZfaq? If so, could you provide a link? Thanks for all you do. Stay safe.
@robinchatterjee1519
@robinchatterjee1519 6 ай бұрын
if eternity should fail is one of the best songs in reunion era maiden. so powerful and meolodic. I wish the demo was avilabale in australia!! :/
@nmatheis
@nmatheis 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I missed the uploaded demo track before it got taken down. It's hard to compare a demo track from a different band with the same singer but a different overall feeling. Demo tracks are very raw in both production values and feeling vs the final version we'll hear on the solo album, so I'll wait until the solo album is released to pass any judgement. That said, I do agree with you that I like the much more audible bass in the demo which adds a lot of texture to the song. Hopefully that remains true in the final version! And I can't wait for the Christmas T-shirt to arrive. It'll be a nice addition to the glow in the dark King Diamond Halloween T-shirt I bought this year. 🤘🤘🤘 BTW, have you heard Tarja's Dark Christmas album. Her voice is a bit too operatic for me, but I appreciate her approach 😈 I stand in solidarity with Ukraine, wish you and your family the best heading into a difficult winter, and apologize for the lack of action my country (USA) is taking right now solely due to internal political strife.
@stretch4130
@stretch4130 6 ай бұрын
Has anyone else picked up the end riff while necropolis is speaking in if eternity should fail is the opening riff to writing on the wall
@donovanleitch1149
@donovanleitch1149 6 ай бұрын
I really like the strip down darker demo version but my favorite is still the Maiden version and also one of my favorite tracks since Bruce's return to the band.
@davidbayerle6652
@davidbayerle6652 6 ай бұрын
The song is good , in the end it’s still Bruce/Maiden like 🤘🇨🇦🇺🇦. On a side note my son and I just received your awesome Metal Pilgrim Christmas tshirts , great fit 🤘🇺🇦🇨🇦
@kennethnielsen3864
@kennethnielsen3864 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@Metallex
@Metallex 6 ай бұрын
Hi everyone! Here's a Drive link to the demo! drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XiKKhyrZ5LkQOLk3EaCgNM2h_gnPEnPI?usp=drive_link
@tomasvitorialosada7117
@tomasvitorialosada7117 6 ай бұрын
Where did you got it?
@dragontears4me989
@dragontears4me989 6 ай бұрын
thank you!
@therocklabels
@therocklabels 6 ай бұрын
😮 cool!!
@neilbrett1509
@neilbrett1509 6 ай бұрын
Its close but i prefer the demo, as it has that extra curiosity factor, plus i prefer Bruce's clean spoken outro. Hope you get the vinyl soon and crank it to 11.
@wkr64691
@wkr64691 6 ай бұрын
Where is the demo version available digitally? Only afterglow of ragnarok is available on Apple Music as far as I can tell.
@FroMarty
@FroMarty 6 ай бұрын
I like the crunchy rhythm on the demo. I genuinely expected the fast section to not be in the demo, it sounds like a maiden addition
@booshting3520
@booshting3520 6 ай бұрын
Love that song
@HTS21
@HTS21 6 ай бұрын
The production on Dickinson's demo sounds better than the official Maiden Release in book of Souls, time to get rid of Kevin Shirley.
@Stophocles
@Stophocles 6 ай бұрын
Thought the same thing. Senjutsu sounds especially bad.
@michelemarcolin2548
@michelemarcolin2548 5 ай бұрын
Since he kicked in all Maiden albums sound so cheap... 30 years ago LOUDNESS vinyl have incommensurable better quality!! Where has finished M. Birch straightforward sound?!
@tonydrake462
@tonydrake462 5 ай бұрын
As a fan of IM in the 1980s (I bought the 1st album as soon as it was out) - but after the 7th, drifted off.. then Book of souls - we'll - my number one played albums for the last 5 years... say no more... not a weak track - not ONE that's not 10/10... thanks for this ...(I think you know which one I love).
@moisescandidof.dossantos8465
@moisescandidof.dossantos8465 6 ай бұрын
Hard to choose from both tracks, but....as you said....both sound maiden-like afterwards. It´s a very a long discuss about, and certaly the eternity about which is the best never fail.
@jasoncarter6247
@jasoncarter6247 6 ай бұрын
What specific concert footage did you use for the making of your video? I want to check it out!
@BSeab1024
@BSeab1024 5 ай бұрын
Go to the Iron Maiden official channel and look for the play list "Book of Souls : Live Chapter". I believe you will find what I think you are looking for.
@sourdust6558
@sourdust6558 3 ай бұрын
Now they need to put the Wickerman demo on streaming
@brownwrench
@brownwrench 6 ай бұрын
Love that one and Speed of Light
@francescoporcari8597
@francescoporcari8597 6 ай бұрын
I don't know, from a mere sound point of view (how the instruments sound) I prefer the demo version. I'd like Iron Maiden version (arrangement and musicians) with the sounds of the demo. You can hear the bass, and I love how its simplicity.
@toivotek
@toivotek 5 ай бұрын
One of the best songs from Maiden ever. ❤
@damageinc81292
@damageinc81292 6 ай бұрын
It is by far the best song from tbos and one of the top of 2000s maiden
@alannehme
@alannehme 6 ай бұрын
Anybody got a link to download the demo?
@thiagodamatta79
@thiagodamatta79 6 ай бұрын
Where/how can I hear this demo ?
@Stophocles
@Stophocles 6 ай бұрын
I like the production on the demo. Too much new Maiden has too little "space" to the mix, with all instruments turning into mush together.
@1marius16
@1marius16 6 ай бұрын
Can I find the demo anywhere? It's not on Spotify
@geehdeh
@geehdeh 6 ай бұрын
Only at the Afterglow of Ragnarok single b-side for now unfortunately :/
@egq1988
@egq1988 5 ай бұрын
Most important: where can I find the demo??
@humbertogomez2076
@humbertogomez2076 6 ай бұрын
Where do I get this demo?
@terrencepowell4072
@terrencepowell4072 6 ай бұрын
Roy mustve been listening to Wrathchild lol
@michelemarcolin2548
@michelemarcolin2548 5 ай бұрын
I also thought so!
@Ebastine
@Ebastine 6 ай бұрын
Ummmm where can I listen to it?
@cbr9914
@cbr9914 6 ай бұрын
i'm trying really hard not to spoil this demo version.....waiting for my single to arrive in the mail
@chickenbiscuit4525
@chickenbiscuit4525 6 ай бұрын
The drums are heavier, ain't that enough. Yes those delays and I don't mean the shimmering of reverb effects. Its still all kind of solid. I still want my t-shirt (futbolka) and I will tell you. No Pitty for the Shamed Like no vinyl is life. No prayer for the dying. Prayer is
@milankoncos9935
@milankoncos9935 6 ай бұрын
I think that Writing On The Wall is Drop-D as same as Adrian Smith on Time Machine.
@vprado1981
@vprado1981 5 ай бұрын
Esta é uma das minhas favoritas da nova fase do Maiden. E confesso que, ainda assim, me surpreendi em constatar que a versão do Maiden ficou bem melhor. Aos "especialistas" de plantão: sim, eu sei que a do Bruce é uma demo. O veredito do vídeo fala por mim.
@terrencepowell4072
@terrencepowell4072 6 ай бұрын
Wonder what reefing a sail means?
@oliverl.5834
@oliverl.5834 6 ай бұрын
A "Dr. Strange"-Comic, not episode. From "Strange Tales" 138 to be exact.
@marchean83
@marchean83 6 ай бұрын
One of the best Maiden openers of all time alongside Moonchild.
@PhillipCalvin627
@PhillipCalvin627 6 ай бұрын
Bro, I love me some solo Bruce but I'm not even going to entertain that his solo output is on the same level as Iron Maiden. Regardless it was cool to hear the demo.
@TheFlenen
@TheFlenen 6 ай бұрын
Wrong, the chemical wedding would like a word
@PhillipCalvin627
@PhillipCalvin627 6 ай бұрын
@@TheFlenen Love the Chemical Wedding but if I had to chose, I'd still take Maiden every time.
@mikefay4323
@mikefay4323 6 ай бұрын
For me the Iron Maiden sound is Steve and Nicko galloping.
@themadmattster9647
@themadmattster9647 6 ай бұрын
"First Maiden song in Drop D" actually technically not true. Adrian Smith said that at least he was tuned this way on songs like The Fallen Angel on Brave New World and a few others.
@jesseturner9865
@jesseturner9865 5 ай бұрын
The BD version, ironically, reminds me of Helloween.
@ButcherGrindslam
@ButcherGrindslam 6 ай бұрын
Де ти взяв трек в цифрі? У iTunes нема.
@MetalPilgrim
@MetalPilgrim 6 ай бұрын
Ну... на то я і Metal Pilgrim :) А якщо чесно, то його в цифрі не видали, це з вінілу
@themadmattster9647
@themadmattster9647 6 ай бұрын
Much better than Steve asking to use "Bring Your Daughter"... lol
@IanPotts-lv6os
@IanPotts-lv6os 6 ай бұрын
The live version of eternity is the best on book of souls live chapter
@johnhorchler667
@johnhorchler667 6 ай бұрын
What is the map behind you of.?
@MetalPilgrim
@MetalPilgrim 6 ай бұрын
There is a wooden map of the our world… and below it and directly behind me is the map of Middle Earth… I am a Tolkien nerd 😂
@maxfrancois89
@maxfrancois89 6 ай бұрын
I think the Iron Maiden-version is better than the demo. Might be biased by familiarity and production. An IESF is probably my favourite track from post-reunion Maiden. The demo is not bad at all, but I prefer the Maiden-version right now. However, I was slightly disappointed when Nightmares didn't appear on the tracklist for the album. Would've been very intreresting to hear what would've been Steve's first choice!
@baruchdor
@baruchdor 6 ай бұрын
i much prefer the demo😅
@j_freed
@j_freed 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like Afterglow of Fraggle Rock.
@BSeab1024
@BSeab1024 5 ай бұрын
That is the funniest thing I have heard in awhile. Good one.
@TheVgaTV
@TheVgaTV 6 ай бұрын
Not a fan of Book of Souls, however the live versions of the songs from that album sounds so much better
@kanaziras
@kanaziras 6 ай бұрын
Much higher BPM, I would not agree! Much would mean much, and this BPM change is not so much, overall maybe few BPMs more. I am lazy to open DAW and get exact BPMs thou... but I'd say it's like 5 BPM tops, which is really not much.
@carlarmou7293
@carlarmou7293 6 ай бұрын
Prefer Maiden one although this is cool too
@wendychan6679
@wendychan6679 6 ай бұрын
I like the Iron Maiden version better but both are great.
@amanloop
@amanloop 6 ай бұрын
The BoS version is definitely the better of the two. I agree tho, the original is quite brilliant as well.
@TheMadArab138
@TheMadArab138 6 ай бұрын
It's Bring Your Daughter all over again...
@mrpositronia
@mrpositronia 6 ай бұрын
The Maiden version is better, but that's because the demo version is still just the demo and not refined. Well, that's my view at least.
@raymorris6165
@raymorris6165 5 ай бұрын
But it bruces song maiden took it from him
@patriziabufalino5359
@patriziabufalino5359 5 ай бұрын
maiden version
@lyrics1059
@lyrics1059 6 ай бұрын
So.. Iron Maiden did a cover of themselves
@marcelacoplao
@marcelacoplao 6 ай бұрын
Maiden's version is more powerful and faster, yet the demo version still sounds good.
@antoguglie2734
@antoguglie2734 6 ай бұрын
Antonio GU STEVE HARRIS KZfaq
@analiacartelle1115
@analiacartelle1115 6 ай бұрын
100 times better
@NelsonMontana1234
@NelsonMontana1234 6 ай бұрын
Eh, they haven't written a good song since "Tailgunner."
@rizzo_grt
@rizzo_grt 5 ай бұрын
I love this song a lot! Maiden opened the show with it when I saw them live in 2016. Good memories.
@johnhyout
@johnhyout 6 ай бұрын
Maiden's way better
@YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect
@YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect 6 ай бұрын
Maiden sounds much, much, much groovier. Honestly, apart from Skunkworks, Bruce's albums have almost no groove to them. That's why SW will always be my favorite album.
@BSeab1024
@BSeab1024 5 ай бұрын
Skunkworks is hands down my favorite Bruce solo record.
@IanPotts-lv6os
@IanPotts-lv6os 6 ай бұрын
But to compare Bruce's solo stuff to maiden is a no brainer maiden are far better musically superior up the IRONS
@talaniel
@talaniel 6 ай бұрын
Well, it is sad. I think If Eternity Should Fail is the only good song of Book of Souls :-)
@chadcassidy1580
@chadcassidy1580 4 ай бұрын
Should have let that one stay with Maiden!! And I thought Senjutsu was bad, Mandrake Project is worse, way worse. At least Senjutsu is a metal album! Not saying Bruce's new album had to be metal, but at least good hard rock. But that it ain't!! Huge letdown!!
@troywilkinson160
@troywilkinson160 6 ай бұрын
I prefer maidens version
@Scottjf8
@Scottjf8 6 ай бұрын
The Bruce Roy version is soooo much better
@Alex_Santos2112_-
@Alex_Santos2112_- 6 ай бұрын
Bruce is better than maiden for a long time...
@AxellSlade
@AxellSlade 3 ай бұрын
Eternity failed.
@leoguzman2104
@leoguzman2104 6 ай бұрын
This album mix sounds horrible …i love BD and roy Z but this sounds bad
@jackbrel
@jackbrel 6 ай бұрын
Its a demo
@enriqueramirez714
@enriqueramirez714 6 ай бұрын
demo is better
@mire0000
@mire0000 6 ай бұрын
IM version is much better, in my opinion. And I'm slightly disappointed by the Afterglow of Ragnarok. It starts heavy, and then melts away. Video is a cheap joke. I'm waiting for the full album.
@GianMelendres-if7ph
@GianMelendres-if7ph 6 ай бұрын
Maiden’s version is still better.
@deller5924
@deller5924 6 ай бұрын
Iron Maiden is better.
Iron Maiden recording a new album right now?
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