Heat Pump Conspiracy! Who Profits?

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Roger is back onto heat pumps and deals with many of the issues raised by you in the last video.
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00:00 Intro
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09:04 Subsidies
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@davidquirk8097 2 жыл бұрын

I halved my energy bill, not with a heat pump but with insulation, under floor heating, and a change to LED lighting. I did my homework, worked out the benefit that various insulation strategies would give me, designed my own heating system and got on with it. No grants for the sort of refurb I did, but I'm happy to have a lower energy house that is more pleasant to live in.

@m4inline 2 жыл бұрын

How do you ventilate?

@davidquirk8097 2 жыл бұрын

@@m4inline I live in a conservation area and the council won't let me replace all of the windows so we've got some controlled draught, enough to keep the place healthy. We're also not shy about opening the sash windows to vent steam from the bathroom. I did look at mechanical ventilation with heat recovery but that requires a totally sealed house and that's not going to happen with us. We're in the UK and get moderate weather anyway.

@m4inline 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidquirk8097 ah ok i was just curious. Mechanical venting does not need airtight envelope by the way. Thats kind of a myth. Its for passive design.

@davidquirk8097 2 жыл бұрын

@@m4inline I was thinking that, when I finally get round to refurbing the bathroom, I'd put heat recovery on that room. I may end up with passive ventilation on our bedrooms because we live on a busy road and traffic noise means that we can't have the bedroom windows open over night. The recent heat wave we had was uncomfortable for my partner and passive vents pulling air through the house from the back rooms may help. I guess what im saying is that I've got some homework to do with regard to ventilation if I want to drive my energy costs down further.

@m4inline 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidquirk8097 i am pretty happy with the mechanical vent i have. No mould and no mosquitoes. Where i live its like up to 40C in summer and minus 20 winter. I open a window in winter and my balls freeze off.

@jessegee179 2 жыл бұрын

There’s a little National trust house called A La Ronde, in Devon, UK. It was designed by two retired sisters many years ago, it’s unique feature is it’s circular shape, allowing them to use different rooms depending on the sunlight coming through the windows, to warm or cool it. Recon they were on to something there 😜 What if heat from our cooker ovens could be captured, to heat water to do the washing up, and have a hot shower before bed? It’s similar to the old stoves with a back boiler behind it. My Nan used to cook, boil a kettle, sit next to it, and dry the laundry above it too, she’d even heat the iron on it. She dried our shoes next to it, and heated up an old bed warming pan too, all this from one appliance giving out the same amount of heat. it was the heart of the house. Technology comes up with individual ideas, but we waste a lot of energy/heat because each appliance only has one function.

@charleslyster1681 2 жыл бұрын

What you are describing is the micro air source heat pump I have in my home. It takes hot damp air from the kitchen, bathroom or high ceilings and turn it into hot water at 4:1 efficiency.

@jessegee179 2 жыл бұрын

@@charleslyster1681 ah interesting, thanks 👍 Would it be as efficient if we have the doors and windows open a lot? We’re like the authors wife, fresh air and plenty of air flow. I’ve lived in a house with heat pump / air circulation, it didn’t feel nice despite high ceilings, under floor heating and insulation, but it did keep the temp fairly constant.

@charleslyster1681 2 жыл бұрын

@@jessegee179 if you let the warm air out then of course it won’t work as well, though in warm weather it will still function getting heat from the air. If you have well placed ducts in the bathroom and kitchen though it will capture plenty of waste heat. We also like open doors and windows but have enjoyed our ASHP underfloor heating for the last year. We have a downstairs bedroom so we can have the window open at night with a closed door and not cool the entire house. Obviously you will lose heat whatever the source when you open a window.

@car_ventures 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant... It's about being resourceful with what we have and making the most out of and being smart with what is already there. All of these miracle cures are just poor attempts to mask issues that won't change. There is a British architect whose name is can't remember but he not long ago completed a house which requires no heating at all. It's brilliant and is here on KZfaq if only I can remember his name. But why are the gov not supporting things like this. Smart designs or whatever they could be called. I made my heating more efficient by simply adjusting the front door which turned out to be poorly installed. Now with far less cold seeping in, the heating is on less and thus I have reduced my carbon footprint. There's not point putting in a slightly more efficient boiler if the house itself isn't doing its part.

@carolramsey8457 2 жыл бұрын

The govt has banned back boilers. There you go.

@pokie6087 2 жыл бұрын

I used to work in a repairs contact centre for a housing association. They fitted a load of their properties with these systems and we were bombarded with problem calls from tenants daily. One of our call out contractors told me this was the worst thing anyone could ruin their property with.

@SkillBuilder 2 жыл бұрын

This is what we are hearing

@hrvojelasic5794 2 жыл бұрын

I was selling heat pumps in one part of my life. I was also responsible for service. You need 10 years to properly train service ppl to be able to service chillers/heat pumps properly. Small systems you don't service, you just replace it, it is way cheaper. Bigger systems it is very costly and difficult to do overall. For example, if you have a leak (which is common) you need to replace all refrigerant, find a leak (very difficult) and you have a chance it will happen again, 1kg of refrigerant can be a couple of hundred Euro, without work and small heat pumps easily carry 3-4 kg, bigger ones can be hundreds of kg. If water enters the refrigerant system it is a nightmare, can be days of vacuuming the system, replacing the compressor, changing the oil, get rid of contamination in the system. A repair can easily be thousands of Euros. Some repairs we did are literally tens of thousands of Euro.

@paulwebb3569 7 ай бұрын

I agree they are crap.installed these for over 40yrs in shops and office's repairs are mega cost and so complicated.I love mine but I can fix it ! Public are been coned

@corevamorebolmara1143 2 жыл бұрын

I think half the issue is that in the UK you go from air sourced heat pump into heating water, which is pumped through radiators, that then heat the house - an unnecessary extra step. Just go air sourced heat pump and then heat/cool the inside air, get rid of that heating water step. Oh, and by doing so the air starts getting heated within a minute or so - food for thought.

@petercollins7848 2 жыл бұрын

Good idea, but that would require ducting to be fitted throughout the house. Then you would have to heat water with electricity. This could be done during the day with solar panels, but that would not work at night of course. Houses in the UK are very small due to land limits, so wet system heating has been the way ahead up till now, as ducting and other systems take up space.

@kidalwys 2 жыл бұрын

Mini splits air to air heating.

@neziniukas86 2 жыл бұрын

The problem is, that heat pumps should be used with underfloor heating or a lot bigger rads as they heat water to only 50-55 C. there for you need bigger radiator (nothing is bigger the floor it self) . If you connect heat pump to normal uk rads of regular house they will not work

@corevamorebolmara1143 2 жыл бұрын

@@neziniukas86 the problem is you do not need to transfer heat into water, nor into a hydronic slab system, just transfer it directly to the room air. Simples :)

@lukedoherty8062 2 жыл бұрын

And where exactly are we putting these air vents and ducting in our solidly built brick and stone houses which have no crawl spaces and little space under the floorboards. The reason we use wet central heating is it takes up little space and was more efficient at the time to retrofit and use. Pipes take up a small amount and radiators of the time heated wonderfully with 65-70°c water. Oh and it also warms up our hot water too. We have some of the oldest housing stock in Europe and probably the world dating back to before central heating it’s difficult to retrofit such a system

@1985City 2 жыл бұрын

I've worked with GSHP and ASHP... Roger, I love your videos, your findings are exactly what I am experiencing and to watch this video is a relief for me! Thank you for sharing

@COSolar6419 2 жыл бұрын

Addressing insulation is always the first step to energy efficiency. Once that is done we found a mini-split heat a very efficient way to provide heating and cooling while reducing air pollution. That was important to us and our heat pump is doing that very well.

@jimmonahan789 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Roger! It's not often that you see the facts presented so clearly.

@ryanandrews397 2 жыл бұрын

There not facts! He is so wrong on so many points

@paulhillman400 2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanandrews397 Such as?.

@thesimmings 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative. Thank you. Insulate Britain are bang on. Why did the Tory remove insulation and solar panel grants...makes no sense

@nikkion2140 2 жыл бұрын

Here is an other idea: eat things can be grown locally and in seasons, like we did in 70's so we have not got to fly foods from overseas to cater for out of season demand.

@julianshepherd2038 2 жыл бұрын

Only tomatoes in summer and cherries for 6 weeks. Aye, right

@nikkion2140 2 жыл бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038 We managed to grow things in greenhouses... You are so spoilt Man!

@landyman33 2 жыл бұрын

There isn't enough land in the uk to grow enough food to feed everyone that lives here. There hasn't been for decades now.

@rossbuchanan7632 2 жыл бұрын

@@landyman33 There is enough land. Most of it is not put to the plough though.

@steveunderwood3683 2 жыл бұрын

In the 70s we ate things all year around as we do now. I think you are refering to an earlier time than the 70s.

@classhound2036 2 жыл бұрын

Roger, good to see you in the papers today. Please help lead the charge against crazy government policies that will make the UK poor and cold.

@MrAlpinab7 2 жыл бұрын

Those fuckers will destroy us all ! Electric cars, heat pumps, artificial meat, etc etc etc....even that t**t featured in the video telling us what to do...everything is a conspiracy ! I dont mean covid or others, but this new shit they force us to accept is unacceptable ( i dont even live in UK)

@daveansell1970 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrAlpinab7 so how are you suggesting we should hear our houses without releasing CO2?

@MrAlpinab7 2 жыл бұрын

@@daveansell1970 first get that Co2 scare out of your mind, they really really planted it in there. Planet has its warming and cooling cycles for hundreds of millions of years, when they only drove chariots and dinosaurs farted. Leave petrol engines, hamburgers etc and plant more trees, and invent another fuel that burns clean, if you believe that sort of thing, like alcohool , instead of changing the world and its people and their habits and everything.

@daveansell1970 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrAlpinab7 You strategy would be wonderful if it would work. Firstly you are underestimating the rate at which we are changing the climate. It has changed in the past, but we are changing the climate much faster than it would normally change, and even the normal changes would cause issues for our civilisation. Broadly fixing the problem is cheaper than adjusting to it (eg sea level rise will mean moving 80% of the population, and rebuilding all those cities). Planting trees wouldn't fix the problem, there isn't enough land. There are things we can do to take carbon out of the atmosphere (like biochar) and that might be the right solution for long distance air travel, and steel production, but we still need to reduce our use of fossil fuels drastically, and we should do the easy things first. Technology on its own might fix the problem, but it might make it worse. If someone finds a way of digging oil out of the ground at 20% of the current cost it would overwhelm any increases in efficiency and green energy everyone else is doing, unless we dis-incentivise the release of CO2. Personally I think the right solution is just to tax fossil fuels and transfer this money back to people in proportion to how much they use now, then everything would sort itself out, and if you want a petrol SUV you won't be able to afford to fly to minorca for your holiday, but you won't have to feel guilty about it. But that would piss off the fossil fuel lobby, so everything is half arsed.

@MrAlpinab7 2 жыл бұрын

@@daveansell1970 out of all these possible solutions what are they leaning towards ? Instead of finding a "cleaner" burning fuel, which basically means putting together 10 chemists in a lab, what do they do ? Change the entire technology, from internal combustion to electric. Scrapping hundreds of millions of cars in the world, demolishing industries. Why ? It's PROFIT driven. To make an EV probably costs 40% of what it would cost to manufacture an ICE, driving their profit margins up. Then comes the replacement of car batteries every 3 or 4 years. Another cost, but for us, they make even more money). It's all smoke in our eyes. These heat pumps are just another gimmick, a " saviour for our heating" which are pretty much an air conditioner in disguise, but triple the price for them to make more money. That'll all there is to it. More money for them. What's more expensive ? Growing a cow or growing cells in a lab ? More profit for them, the rest is just a story ! Not even a good one, just a sales pitch. Come on, people like this eco shit, i like it too, im not for throwing plastic into the ocean or terrible things like that, but i want to keep what makes me happy, a delicious hamburger, a good rev of a V8, a leather coat, etc. And WE all liked this stuff at some point in time. They changed us. Plant more trees, stop deforestation, clean the oceans, whatever, use eco shit electric technology for big polluters, industrial, not take my joy of driving a v8.

@grenvillebamford1205 2 жыл бұрын

I had a conservatory added about 7 years ago, made sure floor was insulated, dwarf walls insulated to max. I fitted a heat pump and never regretted the decision, it’s been invaluable in the summer not only to cool the conservatory but the dinning room and sitting room too. Obviously struggles for a bit on start up if sunny but works fine, as sun looses its power temp plummets. Biggest bonus is the dehumidifier effect, makes it so much better to breath in. In the winter it’s so convenient to warm same area downstairs without heating the whole house, we have warm well insulated house and rarely have the main heating on in the morning even when temp out side is below zero. We get maximum use from conservatory being able to sit in the warm. Cost to run which I did research on before installation very low, because of intermittent use barely noticed on bill.

@michaelfraser5723 2 жыл бұрын

BUT, you are now tied to ONE, GREEDY CAP-HAPPY energy cartel.

@david.4445 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t normally add my own comments but on this occasion I felt quite compelled. So I watched a number of Rogers clips on plumbing and found them a no nonsense advice, and clearly explained. Now I’ve watched this clip and thoroughly enjoyed the plain talking and yes some will possibly disagree but truth sometimes hurts but we do need to get out of our own personal boxes and look out for our beautiful planet and help it now! So well done Roger.

@johnfithian-franks8276 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Roger, I have a gas boiler and radiators in my three-bedroom house, there used to be three of us using the house but now it is just my cat and me. Like your wife I like a cool bedroom (my cat doesn’t) but she hasn’t a vote so I win, in fact I have triple glazed windows, closed foam on the roof interior, and fifteen inches of insulation as well, my walls are brick with a three inch cavity that has been filled with insulation and apart from getting hot water for showers, washing up and shaving I have not needed to have the boiler going for over three years now, it is even cool in the summer and it has been red hot outside just lately. I will change over when they can promise me the same benefits as I have now. I am seventy years old and last year my power supplier gave me a rebate of twelve pounds because I get the warm house payment from the government ad had not used it all before I was eligible for the next years payment. And by the way, I paid for my triple glazing when everyone else was installing double glazing, I paid for all the insulation and cavity fill myself and now I am reaping the rewards

@Steveuploads 2 жыл бұрын

Hi John. Firstly congrats on reaching 70 years old 👏🏻. Why don’t you add another unit of triple glazing on the inside of the house so you have 6’ll glazing then open the window and add a window pane sized sheet of insulation for when you go out to the shops or the doctors? Might save a few quid ?

@johnfithian-franks8276 2 жыл бұрын

@@Steveuploads Hi Steve, you seem to have taken my comment as an insult, if so I am very sorry it was not meant to upset anyone, I was merely saying how I have kept my house warm. I did a lot of things in my seventy years on this planet and I spent some time in Norway, they are so far advanced and all the houses had triple glassing and that is way I got in installed when I came home. I was not trying to upset anyone or insult them with the lockdown due to Covid in the UK I have spent most of my time watching my favourite channels on my computer and I only watch channels that I find interesting and informative and I sometimes leave a comment but never an insult.

@COM70 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnfithian-franks8276 John, I see nothing offensive or insulting in what you said. I too visited Norway in 1990 and was shocked to see how little they spent on heating. I was amazed at their building technology. I’m sure they could better afford to heat their houses in winter and cool them in summer being a rich country but they chose to be less wasteful and more pragmatic even back then. Good for you.👏

@jayt9882 2 жыл бұрын

Don't let someone's sarcastic comments bother you. What I took from your description is that it's perfectly possible to make our homes very energy efficient by practical, sensible means. Triple glazing is something I'd consider, but with many large and/or picture windows and patio doors the cost to me is likely to be prohibitive - bit of a Catch-22 as they're all still in very good condition so it's not worth doing yet. My cat gets over the cold bedroom thing by sleeping on me every night!

@tomf4547 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnfithian-franks8276 John, pay no attention. There are arseholes leaving comments all over utube and he's one of em. Congrats, I was only commenting yesterday that it's nearly November and I've just put the heating on. My costs are very low so why would I spend 1000s on a system that's useless.

@johndufton9686 2 жыл бұрын

The only people that ever benefit from subsidized heating etc are those on benefits or people with a disposable income who get the grants and RHI from installations with a big upfront cost. Most of us working to live are left to pay increased utility bills with nothing to show for it.

@HeatGeek 2 жыл бұрын

ignoring the fact that the world is benefiting from lowered CO2... sure

@nigelduffy6628 2 жыл бұрын

@@HeatGeek Yes that minuscule amount of CO2 that we contribute to the Carbon cycle, sure.

@HeatGeek 2 жыл бұрын

@@nigelduffy6628 all the carbon released is made up of miniscule amounts bud. That's how it works... its everywhere!

@HeatGeek 2 жыл бұрын

To be more accurate though.. 40% comes from homes.. 40% of homes is heating and hot water... so not really miniscule

@nigelduffy6628 2 жыл бұрын

@@HeatGeek 5% of total Planetary Carbon from mankind, less than 1% of 5% from UK. Even less than minuscule, thems the numbers, bud, that's how it works.

@aljay2526 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant, you hit the nail on the head again Roger.

@tonybarker1335 2 жыл бұрын

I've had a heat pump for 17 years and it was brilliant.

@seikipayne90 2 жыл бұрын

A mix of valid points and some that don’t really make any sense to me. The key point I disagree with is the attack on subsidies. In my view subsidies are not about paying for someone else’s heat pump but accelerating the development and reduction in cost of heat pumps to a point that subsidies are no longer required. This works, just look at electric vehicles. Subsidies in many countries are reducing because the technology has rapidly improved and costs have plummeted. Would this have happened without subsidies? Not nearly as quickly. So if we want to slow down heat pump developments and keep costs high then removing subsidies will do that. Another key area of disagreement is on hydrogen. I just don’t see it competing on cost once heat pump technology goes mainstream and other options like distributed heating are fully exploited. Overall I think this video is unbalanced, he shows plenty of examples of bad heat pumps but no examples of good ones. Anyone can find a poorly installed or maintained heat pump with a noisy compressor, but is this representative of all heat pumps installed? I doubt it. I do like to see some critical thinking about heat pumps but this feels too much like showmanship and creating some drama for clicks. Integrity should be more important than clicks.

@Allegedly2right 2 жыл бұрын

War that speeds development up just look at air travel just a thought guns there’s another one it’s COVID haha tv is crap

@921186940 2 жыл бұрын

Oxygen is non flammable it just helps other fuels oxidise (burn)

@totherarf 2 жыл бұрын

It is flammable in a Hydrogen environment! ;o)

@921186940 2 жыл бұрын

@@totherarf not true you still have a fuel and and oxidiser he referred to getting two fuels after electrolysis that's factually incorrect you get a fuel and an oxydiser it's like saying bread will cook itself then saying well it does in an oven it's the fuel oxygen and heat mixed that makes fire although with a concentration of oxygen in the mix it will most certainly intensify the combustion process in the same way N20 works in a petrol engine

@921186940 2 жыл бұрын

@@totherarf trust me I'm addicted to the stuff

@kevinkearney9179 2 жыл бұрын

Oxygen is flammable.

@921186940 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinkearney9179 ok show me the hazardous data sheet for oxygen pretty sure it's non flammable compressed gas

@9546aw 2 жыл бұрын

I am a homeowner in Huntington NY USA. My house was built in 1978. The house is 2400 square feet and is made of frame construction with exterior cedar shakes. The house has top of the line thermapane windows. My first Heat Pump was a Carrier Unit. I replace the original unit about 15 years ago with a Lennox heat pump. I would also like to mention that I have 65 solar panels on my roof which faces Southwest. The Heat Pump is a 5 Ton Lennox Unit with a Lennox Air Handler in the basement. During heating season I set the thermostat at 74F (23.3C) and in cooling season it is set to 78F (25.5C). Depending on how much snow there has been during the winter my total cost for electric for a full year will run a low of $150 to a high of $450. The reason for the difference is that in a snowy winter the panels are covered for several weeks and produce little electric. I have compared notes with my next door neighbor who has the virtually identical house to mine and he spends between $5,000 to $6,000 on oil PLUS an electric bill for the year of $2,000. I have another friend who lives nearby in a home with GAS heat and while his costs are marginally better for the gas, his electric bill is also in the $2,000 range. I have had 42 years of experience in a Cold in the winter/Hot in the summer climate and the heat pump works great. I have saved well over $150,000 during this time. Skill Builder is ill informed and is putting out Phony information. He should work for Mike Lindell of My Pillow fame.

@raycooke2510 2 жыл бұрын

A 5 Tonne Lennox unit for a domestic dwelling in the UK. Most would not be able to accommodate such a unit. 🇬🇧

@johnhunter4181 4 ай бұрын

@@raycooke2510 This is the trouble - you're all blaming the HP tech when it's Roger and his builder mates that are out there creating housing stock in the UK that is a pile of shit.

@IPC0101 2 жыл бұрын

Great rant, I really do not know what to do when my gas boiler fails

@m4ckm4n59 2 жыл бұрын

£307 million 'per mile' for HS2. Get your head round that Roger lol

@edc1569 2 жыл бұрын

Trains are expensive, land is expensive, signalling systems are expensive, tunnelling is expensive? Who would have thought it.

@ollieb9875 2 жыл бұрын

They're digging up the fields a couple of miles up the road for HS2, it looks like a nightmare. Roads closed, traffic lights, queues, I couldn't even get back home on my bike the way I wanted along a bridlepath because the plant machinery had completely desecrated the path. Added another 7 miles to a long ride 🙄 and they've had to close the little farm shop up that way because apparently the side of the road belongs to the railway now.

@michaelwilliams3648 2 жыл бұрын

Train lines are hundred year + projects upfront it costs but we have had our money’s worth out of the old lines

@jtthe3rd634 2 жыл бұрын

Hs2 is a load of shite and expensive and noisy it's for southerners to come up north and buy our property on weekends. Oh I have an air source heat pump and no fossil fuel in my house only the wife

@stephengraham1153 2 жыл бұрын

@@jtthe3rd634 The average human generates 330 BTUs every hour, so if you get a few more wives your house will become toasty warm.

@gregoxenham2842 2 жыл бұрын

Thank God, the voice of reason speaks the truth

@ruinunes8251 2 жыл бұрын

Love you rant Roger. Absolutely brilliant.

@user-zh9kc7tw4n 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent summary! At a time where we do not have enough electricity capacity we are pushing for much higher consumtion..

@benpage1912 2 жыл бұрын

One of the best I’ve seen from you Roger, only this morning I watched a short you tube interview with Lord Anthony Bamford regards the problems with going electric etc, his and his teams response has been to develop existing combustion engines to run off Hydrogen, utterly brilliant and fantastically well thought out, if you ever need an additional voice, let me know, keep it up Ben 👍

@ericbeauchamp2291 2 жыл бұрын

I walk to the shops,a mile away,my bin is hardly used each fortnight but next doors is overflowing and they even use mine at times,I won’t mention their weight.Roger your spot on.🥴

@duncanandrews1940 2 жыл бұрын

Totally CORRECT. I have now installed a Wood Pellet stove. EXCELLENT! My old Heat Pump only produced about 15 c in winter!

@ForlornHope2626 2 жыл бұрын

I run an Air Conditioning Company in the UK. What I cant get my head around is why they arent looking at putting ducted AC in lofts with ducting throughout the house, then just using heat pumps for hot water. Surely theres a heck of a lot of waste converting electricity to refrigerant, to water, to air.. Rather then cutting out water completely and just going electricity to refrigerant to air

@car_ventures 2 жыл бұрын

Very true... Most houses in the U.S are ducted and always have been. Normally only the old brick buildings in NY have radiators.

@johnhunter4181 4 ай бұрын

I think it's because you need very big ductwork to move the same amount of air that A/C blows-and keep it quiet. However all these folk in their properties with the period features that they love so much, could consider using the chimneys as a route for ductwork. I'm quite happy with insulation and a couple of little minisplits.

@geoffhaylock6848 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to part 3 Roger. We had AC in the summer when I lived in the USA. Never found noise an issue but the Americans have this tech licked. Lived in China where we had a heatpump for heating and cooling. Cooling was fine but heating was crap. It would freeze into a block of ice and provide very little heat then.

@bigjd2k 2 жыл бұрын

It should go into reversal momentarily to melt the ice off the coils. Small ones need to run for a minute to do it, larger ones have enough heat in the refrigerant to do it quicker. It’s worse when it’s cold and humid outside. Sounds like that feature wasn’t working in your unit!

@jonsaircond8520 2 жыл бұрын

Big difference in our conventional heat pump is we have resistance heating that tempers the air in defrost cycles. The mini split type doesn't so they have a harder time defrosting without loss in the living space. I really like the modern heat pumps but wouldn't dare have one where freezing weather is the normal not rarity

@MattyEngland 2 жыл бұрын

@@bigjd2k So it's already making virtually zero heat, then it has to waste a load of it defrosting itself. It's so dumb I can't believe people are even considering it in a country like the UK. I remember when the government and 'scientists' were pushing diesel cars as being better for the environment than petrol, look what happened with that.

@ukeemail 2 жыл бұрын

Solution to this is ground source heat pump. Removes the condensation factor that freezes on the coil. Another issues is the outside evaporator is too small. Get this bigger and reduce the number of thaw cycles and the chance that it will be below the freezing point of the water. No you don’t need an engineer to size a heat pump ffs. Variable speed and a controller to manage the heat output. No they will not be running 24/7/365. If you add reverse cycle - only run when needed. If you put in a big enough unit then sure it can pull up a house from freezing to 18C in half an hour. How are British heat pumps so expensive. A whole house unit can be less than 15 000 dollars here and 1 pound buys 2 of our dollars. And they can pull down a house in 30 minutes. Agreed stop eating too much. Battery tractors however are more plausible than battery cars imo as u can do rapid charge and better asset utilization

@triedzidono 2 жыл бұрын

nothing calms an annoyed human quite as much as hearing a kindred spirit ranting. bravo Roger

@triedzidono 2 жыл бұрын

@@gpw203 its terrible how something can be so painfull, funny and true all at once

@mattlee9934 2 жыл бұрын

Barmy Boris is scaring the shit out of me.

@oakashthorn5714 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunnyjim1355 Not really much difference Jim tbh...where’s jay Rose gone?!

@brazilianmegaman258 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunnyjim1355 they're exactly the same.

@truxton1000 2 жыл бұрын

I believe princess nut nut is behind his extreme view on these things, I am absolutely scared out of my whits for what the future will look like. The so called global warming problem is fabricated, human activity does NOT incease the temperature on this planet with anything more than microscopic values, still this lie is used to introduce a nightmare communist future, "you will own nothing and you will be happy", all for the "enviroment". Maybe we have to move to China or Russia as they are not going to force this as they had enough of extreme communism the last century.

@Andy-go7dk 2 жыл бұрын

Because he’s really working for the (world economic forum) United Nations agenda 21. Check out the Georgia Guidestones.

@truxton1000 2 жыл бұрын

@@Andy-go7dk If what WEF is working for becomes a reality we can just as well commit suicide right now, as that agenda is insane.

@davelewis3022 2 жыл бұрын

Roger I have a heat pump. Ground source, via two 50mt bore holes in my lawn. Had it for 7 years now and no complaints other than it is mechanical and has had a couple of issues. I fully insulated my home and put in underfloor heating. I was advised by the guy who sold it to me to do this, so no shark selling. It's much cheaper to run and you have to get your head around it doesn't give hot water but warm water, takes longer to heat the house so you have it running a couple of hours before you need the heat. It is the way forward but wont suit every property due to the insulation issues.

@SkillBuilder 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dave I have not argument with ground source if there is the room. I have no argument with air source if you are not on the gas grid. What I object to is the use of a bribe to move people away from mains gas. It is not going to do much to cut CO2 and it creates a false market that will go bust when the grants stop. They think they will prime the pumps but look at all the other stuff they chuck money at.

@davelewis3022 2 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder I actually cut off my gas supply when I did this as I could see the price increasing. They will have to get very techy if they want to replace all the gas boilers There is room to improve the design of the pumps just no initiative but with new money things may well improve.

@PaulBednall 2 жыл бұрын

Stationary idling is an offence under section 42 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. The Act enforces rule 123 of the Highway Code, which states: "You must not leave a vehicle’s engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road."

@babyhostess 2 жыл бұрын

I'd forgotten this was a rule! Thanks for the reference

@SyncViews 2 жыл бұрын

OK, but how to enforce it? Almost never see the police around to catch people out. Some of those rules will probably only work if can send in a video/etc. and expect a result (noise problems would be nice as well, it isn't just heat pumps). And how much surveillance is ok?

@matthewgladwell1026 2 жыл бұрын

@@SyncViews here is one, make start/stop in cars none optional and add extra controls into it, like checking if car is moving. How about the gov put a few bob into that and make it part of MOT requirements.

@davidbrown9093 2 жыл бұрын

If we didn't have so many road works clogging up the road, we wouldn't need to idle.

@dalriada842 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewgladwell1026 Then the cars are more complex, and expensive to buy and maintain. Their likely lifespan as an economic proposition will be reduced, and they'll end up at the scrapyard all the earlier. All that for some questionable gain in efficiency. An idling car uses very little fuel. The added complexity you propose would likely be less environmentally friendly, not more. The subtext of Roger's rant is, in my opinion, that government shits on everything it touches! A bunch of political chancers will not be the planet's salvation!

@cerulyse 2 жыл бұрын

Installed one my self cost about 500 quid. what's wrong with using air blown heating cooling, mine is still working after 5 years, right next to block of flats and no complaints

@drewparnell1 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Roger. Your videos are excellent, thanks and congrats. Few seem to understand that if heat is taken out the ground ( by pipework of heat pump) then it’ll be cooling that surrounding sub ground space. Accordingly the heat recovered by heat pump becomes diminishingly effective equals disappointment.

@SkillBuilder 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Drew You are so right, there is this popular misconecption that this is geothermal heat but groundsource heat at that level is solar gain and a lot depends on the geology. If the ground has a high conductivity then the heat comes in from around and might keep up with the rate of removal but it is hit and miss and freezing can be an issue. There are cases where mounds appeared in the lawn of driveway.

@williamjackson5942 2 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder You are full of it, ground temps are area wide!

@stuartskipsey1122 2 жыл бұрын

Really good analysis and insightful opinion. We can all make a difference in what we eat, cutting down waste and insulation and conserving heat

@rossmcleod7983 2 жыл бұрын

All I can point to is the most inept, bent, lazy gubbermint we’ve ever had. BoJo and his umbrella has a bright future in the circus though.

@MrHukd 2 жыл бұрын

Straight to the point. No biased BS. Nice work Roger👍. You've got my respect for sure

@03timdol 2 жыл бұрын

"No biased BS". So he provided only one side of an argument and that makes it unbiased?

@MrHukd 2 жыл бұрын

@@03timdol are you in the industry? Watch he's other videos if you want to see the pros back when these were first introduced. You need to be in the industry to understand these videos. But if you want to give your opinion then go ahead. I'm listening

@williamjackson5942 2 жыл бұрын

@@03timdol Yup he is full of shit!

@tipple58 2 жыл бұрын

Sir, a superb podcast! Thank you.

@markhiggs1487 2 жыл бұрын

Loving the rant makes a lot of sense, glad are heat pump boiler couldn't be fitted now due to being oversize for the area it was going in a few months ago.

@tysondundas1947 2 жыл бұрын

I have never understood why large residual areas are not heated with communal combined heat & power boiler houses. Also why are diy insulating products not zero rated for VAT?

@sekainiheiwa3650 2 жыл бұрын

under today's technology to produce nitrogen oxide sensor fo the cars is cost no more than 20 dollars lets ad the 20 profit and you got 40. They sell it for 300+VAT. People deactivating the entire SCR system not to pay such a horrible price and continuou polluting, and thats only nox where are the rest parts of SCR? No one cares. Green energy is as green as a dollar bill.

@peterwhite51 2 жыл бұрын

Or Geothermal like Southampton City Center? The system feeds the civic centrer swimming pool complex, hotels and I believe the shopping center.

@simonroberts9759 2 жыл бұрын

This is how many of the former Soviet countries heat their houses. There are pipes everywhere transporting hot water. So hot you need to open the windows!!

@uksilverstackers421 2 жыл бұрын

Southampton is not on Geothermal any more due to Water Regsits CHP and does indeed provide a large area with heating and subsequently hot water at 75C temps

@andreashessler838 2 жыл бұрын

Be careful what you wish for. My wifes' family are from Eastern Europe and have central community heating. It is horrible! It is baking hot to the point of being oppressive in the winter months. There doesn't seem to be any mechanism to temperature adjust either. My Father in Law is absolutely obsessed with our combi-boiler and thinks we are incredibly lucky to have it.

@TheChodax 2 жыл бұрын

One of the greatest and most sensible rants I have ever seen! :)

@michaelbalfour3170 2 жыл бұрын

As a low income house in a rural area. I need a heat pump to replace expensive oil, I have at cost to my self installed UFH and installed Dimplex Smart Rads, now I need the grant for my heat pump so I can finally have a heating system. I need the grant! Also good on you for telling off polluters!

@TheDisproof 2 жыл бұрын

Within temperature ranges of −3 °C to 10 °C, the COP for many machines is fairly stable at 3-3.5.

@mateuszsobanski203 2 жыл бұрын

My 8 year old boy asked me today what he could invent to sell for a million pounds. I told him that a good energy source could be that thing. Great rant, Sir 👍

@MattyEngland 2 жыл бұрын

Learn to code/program, design his own cryptocurrency, buy ferrari, retire. 👍

@bokoloaranyfa3824 2 жыл бұрын

"invent ... good energy source" There is no need to invent anything for heating buildings. You can make your home so energy efficient, that you don't have to worry much about heating.

@michaelturrell6101 2 жыл бұрын

I love a good Rant Roger ! You have just hit the nail on the head so to speak. Keep up the good work I waiting for your next epistle How about Solar Panels that should get you going !

@cuckingfunt9353 2 жыл бұрын

Solar in the UK ! ... You couldn't make it up, these salesmen could sell flipflops to Eskimos

@greenjacket6305 2 жыл бұрын

@@cuckingfunt9353 Thermodynamic panels...

@arthurmullard2788 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Roger, I live in Sweden. You are correct. 1 - Most houses are very well insulated. 2 - Most houses have triple glazing. 3 - Heat pumps are used as a last resort. However - District Heating is common - Hot water pumped through the town heats your home and provides piping hot water. It is not expensive and IS very efficient! That is, in my own opinion, the way forward. I hear you ask - what is District heating - basically a centralised set of water boilers fuelled by burning waste plus the by product of factories - heat, as in paper, cardboard factories. You then have super insulated large bore pipe work throughout neighborhoods that supply heat/hot water to each home - I think it is superb - please check it out- it is called, in Swedish - Fjärrvärme - good luck with that - 😂😂😂

@dmac6656 2 жыл бұрын

Lol, excellent Roger, maybe one day when the technology proves itself heat pumps may be a runner, but they’re certainly not there, Yet!

@Charonupthekuiper 2 жыл бұрын

I first heard about heat pumps 40 years ago, plenty of time for them to catch on. Now if governments had pushed for Nordic standards of insulation it would be different, but I remember at the time the claim that gas was so cheap.

@reklaw103 Жыл бұрын

Its easy when you create a massive surplus of wealth selling oil to fund it. We better start fracking if we want to afford that.

@rogerterry5013 2 жыл бұрын

Yet a whole Norwegian town is heated by heat pump as are the new 3x24 floor tower blocks in Vienna. I have a reversible air con unit. Works perfectly. If you are installing get a professional installation with a guarantee of performance.

@raycooke2510 2 жыл бұрын

The systems you mention would be bespoke semi-industrial systems. With equipment selections and system design and configuration being undertaken by an Engineering team. Heat pump systems do work, but they extremely difficult to achieve effective results with a domestic, commercially viable, off the shelf, solution. Even with Government subsidies.

@docutech69 2 жыл бұрын

Roger, thank you for this video. I fully agree that government subsidising is pointless especially for older existing homes. Most of them are not built to work together with a low temperature heating system. However, for new builds which from the first go are designed with low temperature heating systems there is no better solution. I designed my newly built home to include a 10kW heatpump which heats my 2600 sq ft home which is 100% powered with electricity. Paired with the 10 kWp photovoltaic system I pay peanuts for for my fuel bill (only admin fees) The house is warm in the winter and cool in the summer and I am very happy with the result. The entire investment was sponsored by the hard earned money which I earned. Never, ever, once have I asked for a handout. Thank you and keep up the great videos!

@mattphillips9107 2 жыл бұрын

35 years in the heating trade and I have just found this video! You need to be in Westminster! I'll vote for you and not because there's no one else!!! Hats off for talking sense buddy 👍👍👍

@msmitha4211 2 жыл бұрын

Moved into apartment 3 years ago with heat pump.BEST thing ever. Have that and electric only.no gas...electric bill is cheaper .

@bigjd2k 2 жыл бұрын

They’re great if you’re well insulated! Does it do hot water as well?

@asgoodall88 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I work for the national gas network. Hydrogen is the way forward and we are not that far from it! Few small changes to any domestic boiler to accept it. Already built a small hydrogen network for a new housing development. Good clean facts in this video, well done. 👍🏻

@johnhunter4181 4 ай бұрын

I'll just repeat my comment in case you missed it: Hydrogen is produced using electricity and that's always going to be less than 100% efficient - possibly a LOT less. Heat Pumps are everywhere in other countries - they work great and are 3-500% efficient. How can you claim hydrogen is the future? At best it's a short term energy store for excess renewables.

@lawrencecanney3137 Жыл бұрын

Hi mate, i am extremely pleased you are putting your neck on the line by simply explaining the obvious truth. I am a pipefitter welder by trade who has worked within the commercial & domestic heating industry for the last 39 years & have experienced many similar heating problems, like you i would never advise the installation of any renewable heating/ hot water system. In my experience geothermal generates the majority of its heat from friction the pump creates because in many cases the pump is at the highest point and is full of air.

@dell177 2 жыл бұрын

Your right the heat pump system has to be designed to work with the house it's installed in. That means you may need bigger replacement radiators and plumbing. To me they make sense if they are installed beside the heating system you have now. They are great for supplemental heat or use on mild days but unless you tear out the entire existing heating system you are likely to be disappointed.

@jasongraves3385 2 жыл бұрын

Top man I thoroughly enjoyed your rant you talk so much sense. 10 out of 10 from a sceptical gas engineer,bring on hydrogen boilers!

@chrisellis1232 2 жыл бұрын

Recent posts from the government admit that blue hydrogen gas boilers emit on CH4 than natural gas boilers

@Andrewjpritchard 2 жыл бұрын

I’d like to hear your thoughts on infrared technologies. Infrared panels heating in rooms or infrared boilers connected to a wet system. Relies on electricity to run, but apparently an efficient way to make a room feel warm.

@bigjd2k 2 жыл бұрын

My old Dimplex infra-red bathroom heater is lovely! But they went out of fashion for some reason?

@SyncViews 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure how an infrared boiler is gaining any efficiency over what is already basically a 100% efficient boiler? Maybe can be faster/more-dense Probably a big gain there would be to have powerful electric heaters on each tap during the warmer months (where pipes heating up the wall/floor isn't helpful). I feel probably waste a fair % of hot water due to pipes and insulation can't fix it, there is a volume of water in the pipe and you leave it enough hours it will cool down.

@SyncViews 2 жыл бұрын

Infrared heaters on patios make sense because heating the air is almost pointless (but I think these are also a big energy waste in many use cases anyway) or in some less used buildings (seen them in say some scout huts etc. that are used few hours at a time, a few times a week. Provide some warmth very quickly for anyone standing around). Wonder if anyone did any study if there is any benefit vs traditional electric heater in an indoor location that is kept warm though? Electric heaters are already nearly 100% efficient (within your home, the distribution and generation network has a lot of losses), so infrared would only make sense if you could get away with keeping the room say 15C instead of 20C I think? Heat pumps are great in that sense since they can get past the 100% efficiency of electrical energy to heat energy.

@edc1569 2 жыл бұрын

An infra-red water heater? Err…

@heatingengineer376 2 жыл бұрын

Well said! Heat pumps have been available for over 70 years now and haven’t taken off of their own accord. Their lack of popularity in the U.K. and the requirement for subsidies and reduced electricity tariffs as an incentive speaks volumes.

@SkillBuilder 2 жыл бұрын

Yes that is a great point. Why have they not seen gas boilers off in all this time?

@davidjoseph624 2 жыл бұрын

2 Points I think are relevant: 1. We are already over-taxed for GREEN taxes and currently these green taxes are mostly NOT fed back to us. So a heat pump grant is the CORRECT use of this GREEN tax money. The justification for these green taxes are exactly to assist our society to move to a greener forms of energy collection/generation. 2. In my view airsource heat pumps should never be generally used (from your video it is these fan driven outdoor heat exchanges which are the source of the "noisey" heat pump comments). Also airsource heat pumps quit exactly when you need them most, at around 5DegC. Heat pumps for homes should always be ground source. The system must be designed correctly with sufficient in-ground capacity and placed at the correct depth. So in summary I fully agree with you, when you say that a PROPERLY designed groundsource heat pump, that is decently installed (This includes DIY installations, which are some times better than so-called professionals) will deliver a warm and comfortable house all year round at relatively low cost.

@barryquinn5840 2 жыл бұрын

Like a lot of things, I believe it's more complicated than you can explain in a short video and without having a lot of spreadsheets with real-world data to hand. I believe there is a place for heat pumps but only if combined with other measures, insulation, ventilation, night rate electricity, mass thermal storage in structure, large water tanks or efficient storage heaters, solar panels etc. I definitely agree with you that the "hard sell" by the governments and various interested parties is blatantly dishonest, they sell the quick fix solution for everyone. I've had many friends telling me they are being promised the world by various people to change to air source heat pumps and being told they are essentially ground source in a box by, plumbers, estate agents! (why would you trust them?), builders etc.

@tooler731 2 жыл бұрын

You are right on the money Roger. There are so many options out there that just haven't been seen yet. I'm working on an alternative source myself (& no I'm not selling anything.) I figure that natural resources abound that we haven't even look at... For example; in much of the world we have chipmunks. Everyone who's seen them knows that their natural state while moving is approaching the speed of sound. If we built chipmunk 'habitats' on the sides of our houses with little hamster wheels on them and a food reward at the end, we'd all have electricity to heat our homes, charge our cars and do laundry every day And the best part is - It would cost us peanuts! Seriously though, I agree with you completely. It seems as though the direction to put thought into finding solutions has gone out of vogue and advertising agents are making new government policies. Bullshipz baffles brains.

@geezageeman 2 жыл бұрын

I Have know Roger for 30 years he really is the best at what he does. Great video Roger

@SkillBuilder 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Garry

@sharonlouth8139 2 жыл бұрын

Buffer tank most definitely especially on Air source, good for de-frost cycles.

@Steveuploads 2 жыл бұрын

Very similar profile logo you have there to Geothermal International Coventry UK.

@simonroberts9759 2 жыл бұрын

Great rant Roger! You have drawn attention to how the system works. Pay for one thing, then tell you that you can't have it and must pay for something else which does the same thing for example diesel cars replaced by electric. The list goes on. By the way - about 50% of electricity in UK is generated at gas powered stations ... duur isn't that a fossil fuel? So, ditch your gas boiler for an electric air source system using electricity generated from GAS. Bloody brilliant.

@SkillBuilder 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@olivertaylor4779 2 жыл бұрын

imo the government want to get rid of gas boilers in homes so that they can hog it all for the power stations, all this air source heating is just smoking mirrors for the public to think it's greener, I bet some big wigs are getting back handers.

@PiOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah except we only get 38% from gas actually and gas power stations are far more efficient then petrol cars at getting usable energy out of fossil fuels even when you factor in transmission loses and charging loses an ev charged on just gas source electricity is far cheaper in terms of fuel cost and co2 production. Btw 56% of our energy comes from renewables and nuclear energy. Check your facts before spouting nonsense.

@DatNerddSwaqq 2 жыл бұрын

Except heat pumps are multiplicative technology. You feed it 1kW of power and it gives you 3kW of heat. Rather than burn gas directly (call that 100%), you use electricity, which is only 50% gas (and as mentioned above, it's not even 50%), and then figure in the COP of the heat pump and suddenly only 17% of the energy going into the water is from gas. It's not 1:1, it's 1:6.

@davidjoseph624 2 жыл бұрын

PS: The main thing that needs to be weeded out is predatory companies who provide th wrong type of heat pump, or over-inflate heat pump prices while delivering deflated engineering specification systems that are incapable over the full external temperature range of usage. They want to make a killing by providing inadequate systems at the highest possible price. This needs to be stopped.

@timarcher7933 2 жыл бұрын

What you describe was going on in the wet heating systems industry for years. Where the system was under designed and sold high.When minus winter temperatures struck ,the systems couldnt heat the building adaquately.

@flybobbie1449 2 жыл бұрын

Always amazing how hot grass cuttings rotting in a bin liner produce a lot of heat.

@marklinney7997 2 жыл бұрын

Roger - spot on again - heat pumps don't work in most houses no insulation fitted in old houses in uk - change the gas network to hydrogen and we stand a chance of going green and heat all the old houses then try and upgrade old stock of houses will take years and years to do this but at least we won't have to do it in the next few years

@davewoolcock8904 2 жыл бұрын

Gas energy is 3-4p per kWh but only 70-90% efficient due to heat escaping up the flue. Electricity is 18p per kWh but 100% efficient. Divide by the COP if you use heat pumps. Gas still looks good economically, and with less technology risk.

@kgfgfg1 2 жыл бұрын

The trick becomes easier than one think of: Increasing CO2 Taxes for Gas are just one Sign-off by your local government and your calculations are flipped over to heat pumps.

@patlawrence6594 2 жыл бұрын

Love your rants Roger. Sensible and logical yet interesting and amusing. Keep it up

@jessicali8594 2 жыл бұрын

Was impressed by the historical reference to the Sale of Indulgences. This guy knows loads more than he lets on.

@AcheForWake 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoy these videos, no so much the heavy use of the inserted stock clips (all over the place), but hay that’s me. Good messages Roger!

@AcheForWake 2 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder oh yes - I spotted that :-) 👍🏼

@grahamshillingford8229 2 жыл бұрын

Go get 'em Roger!!!! You legend you!!!

@rutgerhoutdijk3547 2 жыл бұрын

Hydrogen is not an energy source mate, it's only a method of storing and transporting energy.

@steweavy 2 жыл бұрын

Please explain more🤔

@gedsimpson9854 2 жыл бұрын

Same as coal and gas then.

@johnscott4045 2 жыл бұрын

Well spoken Roger, excellentlyrics communicated and plenty of truth.

@allandewar 2 жыл бұрын

Ime a HVAC engineer Roger and I am in total agreement with everything you said mate.

@williammatley5016 2 жыл бұрын

Can you please clarify that you are talking about Air Source heat pump. Ground Source heat pumps have less issues during the colder months.

@emmavenvell 2 жыл бұрын

You're a good man, Roger!

@martinbiffin8875 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent balanced factual presentation. Perhaps you could speak with our clueless Welsh Ministers who do not have any idea about energy provision and use.

@steveearley8352 2 жыл бұрын

Thoroughly enjoy your rants! Keep them coming please. You’ve given me pause for thought on air source heat pumps but I’m trying to find someone to do cavity wall insulation first - not being successful at all

@SkillBuilder 2 жыл бұрын

They went when the grants stopped. That is the boom/bust nature of giving grants and then pulling them.

@danielspencer00 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly wouldn't considering retrofitting a heat pump. Had one in a 1950s bungalow I bought 8 years ago. £300 a month in winter to be at 18/19 degrees, terrible!

@danielcookeb90 2 жыл бұрын

Deep breaths Roger, deep breaths! Breath in, breath out, repeat as necessary!!!

@pstanyer1 2 жыл бұрын

Went to a nice house in Scotland for a valentines weekend break 4 years ago. They had a heat pump the radiators were like warm to say the least. We asked the owner to have a look at the heating and he said it's on its maximum setting. The log burner was perfect but he spent about an hour explaining how the Scottish government gave him a big grant for it. Worse thing he ever did he said and was considering going back to his oil heating.

@johnbolt665 2 жыл бұрын

We had an energy-efficient house with walls of concrete and foam over a foot thick and we didn't use the heat pump at all because of the cost!

@reklaw103 Жыл бұрын

Not only aren't we planting trees, but we're cutting them down to make way for 'green' wind turbines, which never offset the carbon needed to manufacture them.

@michaelstevens7299 2 жыл бұрын

This policy is the biggest con ever and I for one will not be falling for it even if my Gas Bill doubles.

@ollieb9875 2 жыл бұрын

We're having one or these installed for our little endless pool, the guy says it's a quiet one and it'll be down the garden anyway. The electric heating has just become ridiculously expensive, I mean it's currently using 2 units an hour 2kw or so 🙄

@squeakmillward 2 жыл бұрын

save the planet fill the pool in

@ollieb9875 2 жыл бұрын

@@dorsetengineering 24 hours a day yeah it adds up over the year. I think ours is more like 37p an hour with EDF in the Midlands

@bigjd2k 2 жыл бұрын

Best way of heating a pool is solar thermal tube panels, and a good summer!

@michaelmayo3127 2 жыл бұрын

Look at those eyes man, they would scare the pants off of any heat pump or environment protectionist.

@jrisner6535 2 жыл бұрын

@@ollieb9875 you shouldn't be warming your pool through the whole year 🤣

@Pentti_Hilkuri 2 жыл бұрын

My options are heat pumps with electricity @ 0.15€/kWh or oil boiler with oil @ 1.10€/l and both prices are creeping up steadily.

@dinkydaz6711 2 жыл бұрын

Had one installed not over enthralled There will be oversized radiators and at worse two to a room The biggest issue is the huge system, lagging with expansion tanks which won’t fit in the typical new build boiler cupboard unless it’s in the garage

@tonygreenwoodN10 2 жыл бұрын

Great rant!! And someone's having a field day with the stock footage!!!

@madgebishop5409 2 жыл бұрын

it was comedy gold! particularly liked 11:26 😂

@MattyEngland 2 жыл бұрын

preferred 8:55 myself, I'd keep her awake at night too. 😂👍

@altergreenhorn 2 жыл бұрын

1:40 he obviously live in a fairy tale. If so lets try with the magic stick and invent such a perfect machine meanwhile the others will use a real thing like a heat pumps are, which thriving in most of european countries as PART of a heatring/coooling SYSTEM of a course I get it old school master like he is, is terrified of new technologies. The same as old school mechanic is terrified of electric cars, can't work on them that's why must be bad.

@brazilianmegaman258 2 жыл бұрын

@@altergreenhorn he's just been around long enough to know junk when he sees it. How long do the cells in an electric car last for? Five years? Then that's it? I've had cars that haven't even needed a trip to the garage in five years.

@ironhorsehero1988 2 жыл бұрын

Great piece Roger, I 100% agree about tax payers money not being handed to cowboy “heating engineering” companies that will probably turn out to be partly owned by mp’s or their family & friends. People tend to forget the government doesn’t possess money it’s our money their gambling with. I’m always amused when an mp says “we need to regain the public’s trust” thus implying that at some point in time ordinary people trusted members of parliament.

@phil955i 2 жыл бұрын

Spot on. From a refrigeration engineer.

@rolanddunk5054 2 жыл бұрын

What a brilliant video well presented with valid points put forward..most of these green solutions depend upon electricity which in itself is green..but it all depends on how you produce the juice..i LIKE the sound of hydrogen as a source .thanks a lot,cheers Roly🇬🇧.

@designcoordinationmanageme3177 2 жыл бұрын

Solution for the car engine running when sitting there ... ask them if they would mind connecting a hose between the tail pipe and window next time ... just a thought.

@stakkerhmnd 2 жыл бұрын

hahahaha!

@xlerb_again_to_music7908 2 жыл бұрын

Unnecessary idling is illegal in the UK on a public highway. "An idling engine can produce up to twice as many exhaust emissions as an engine in motion. Exhaust emissions contain a range of air pollutants such as carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, and particulate matter. These can effect the air quality of the surrounding environment and the air we breathe. Vehicle idling is an offence against the Road Traffic (Vehicle Emissions) (Fixed Penalty) (England) Regulations 2002. The law states that is an offence to idle your engine unnecessarily when stationary. If you fail to turn your engine off after being spoken to you may be issued with a fixed penalty notice of £20."

@car_ventures 2 жыл бұрын

@@xlerb_again_to_music7908 Good to know! If you're ever at Paddington station in London go to the covered area taxi rank. Loads of taxis sat there idling, often with no punters around. The air is horrible to breathe in that area. Not to say diesels are bad... They're the best engines by miles (literally) when in use and up to temp, but idling for long periods and pootling about, not so much.

@stakkerhmnd 2 жыл бұрын

@@xlerb_again_to_music7908 Yes. Then the councils introduced "LTNs" and other traffic measures to make traffic grind to a halt. Massively increasing pollution. More cycle lanes please! Sooner they ban cyclists the better and allow white vans (i.e. trades) to get on with their business the better. The UK will never recover from COVID with all these cycle lanes stifling productivity.

@theplumber4934 2 жыл бұрын

Well Said Roger, Keep The Rants Coming

@lumbarsupport 2 жыл бұрын

Despite the many issues and risks, Roger's conclusions (from 6:48) are that heat pump systems do work when properly designed, sized and installed by qualified heating engineers. That's certainly my experience with my own heat pump based system.

@SkillBuilder 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Phil Absolutely and the government's intended scheme will do nothing to enhance the reputation of heat pumps because they are never going to give you the same flexibility and output as a gas boiler. Once they do the game will change.

@whyyoulidl 2 жыл бұрын

I love a good rant; This one was spot on!

@sawf6962 2 жыл бұрын

A video on ground source heat pumps would be good.

@geoffnewman3109 2 жыл бұрын

Suggest you watch Fully Charged home heating series.

@ashbashbaby2 2 жыл бұрын

He's done one

@marktanska6331 2 жыл бұрын

Saw a question "it is a matter who pays for net zero, the consumer or the taxpayer?" In my book they are the same thing. Another one " we need to tax the big polluter" My book there are big polluters only because us consumers consuming whatever they make, hence the word consumer.

@oliverjosshvac2101 2 жыл бұрын

The reputation of heatpumps would be.better with good installs. Here in Switzerland heatpump installations have to be certified to get government money. The certification process includes: Sizing with load calculation, selecting a heatpump with good efficiency, providing a schematic for the installation, commissioning report, check up after 1 year. These installations have good efficiency but cost a bit more to install.

@richardmoore5674 2 жыл бұрын

i installed a heatpump earlier this year. Upstate NY, US. 36k BTU. energy bills have dropped noticabley for Summer time (i had a bunch of window ACs). the units are super quiet. and have yet to have any issues. i will still be relying on my oil based boiler for the deep winter heat. I also re-insulated my attic this spring which is likely helping alot. I havent had to use heat mode except for initial testing yet, but i think this was an excellent move for me.