that is like the Original Version

Welp. Rest in peace, legend.

wow! Seems that for Frollo the various Dubbing studios had choosen various theater actor. Even Eros Pagni in Italian version is a theater actor

May he and Tony Jay rest in peace

Haha, I love and adore the melody.

But it rhymes.

We french are scary

I love it

+Thiago Antonino bacchanal is a medieval french dance

+lucas cabley really? Down here in Brazil it was described as a Festival for The Greek/Roman god Baccus

Thiago Antonino yes i'm french i learned in my history class

+Thiago Antonino No, you're right; here, it's clearly speaking about the greek thing...Since it is totally linked to what Frollo is saying, contrary to the french mdieval dance...

in France there's less taboo about hell, Lucifer or anything about them, than in the us. For example I don't think there's no insults with those words, unlike the english language where People can say "damn you" or "what the hell". and as a kid I never knew what were bacchanalia.

I believe it's a retorical question. But this is up to interpretation

Yeah I thought the translation was really good too.

The original English lyrics don't seem super profound if you do not take them in the greater context of the song. The greater beauty of Hellfire comes from the fact that the lyrics are juxtaposed to the Archdeacon, Monks, and Robbed Apparitions singing in Latin. The Latin being sung by the is a modified, older version of the Confiteor, aka the Penitential Act, in which the person reciting acknowledges/confesses their sins at the start of a Catholic Mass. The prayer is continued after the opening scene with the Archdeacon and Monks and acts as a counterpoint to Frollo's lines and act as a window into his subconscious. For example (F = Frollo & A&M = Archdeacon & Monks): F: Beata Maria you know I'm so much purer than the common, vulgar, weak, licentious crowd. A&M: Quia peccavi nimis (That I have sinned) F: Then tell me, Maria, why I see her dancing there? Why her smold'ring eyes still scorch my soul? A&M: Cogitatione (In thought) F: I feel her, I see her. The sun caught in her raven hair; Is blazing in me out of all control A&M: Verbo et opere (In word and deed) This is also the case as the Robed Apparitions continue the prayer and this counterpoint by saying, "mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa", which loosely translates to "my fault, my fault, my most grievous fault", both replicating the prayer precisely and timing it with Frollo's escalating denial of his "fault". F: It's not my fault! RA: Mea culpa (My fault) F: I'm not to blame. RA: Mea culpa (My fault) F: It is the gypsy girl, the witch who set this flame! RA: Mea maxima culpa (My most grievous fault) Once you analyze the song with this in mind, it really shows the genius of this piece.

..... I agree

We have more practice.

I was thinking German is better for villain songs and French better for romantic songs, e.g. Beauty and the Beast in french

Tout à fait d'accord. Puis le fond de vérité dest plaisant aussi. ; à savoir si le diable existe c'est un autre débat mais la vérité de cette phrase me plaît beaucoup ^^

+Delphine Samuel J'adore aussi la phrase ^^ et après c'est un peu la grosse excuse de frollo genre "notre père m'a pas fait pour resister à lucifer alors je vais pouvoir me farcir la bohémienne ou la bruler" =

Makioto Katsuki Mdr c'est ça xD

J'adore cette version de la chanson aussi. Les paroles français sont fort que celui que je grandi avec, lequel était le version anglais. Bien que, j'aime aussi le version anglais car il est le original langue des film et ce flux mieux dans comparaison. Les deux versions sont impressionant dans leur propre droit. ^_^

+Xeavone Le film est américain mais le livre dont il est tiré et les personnages sont français 😉

J'ai toujours interpréter sa comme frollo qui réalise ce qu'il est sur le point de faire et qui est choqué et horrifié mais qui une fois qu'il se retourne est déterminé à aller jusqu'au bout même si il sait que c'est mal .

C'est précisément pour ça que j'adore cette chanson. On est capable d'identifier toutes les émotions que Frollo ressent. Les paroles sont magnifiques mais terrifiants aussi et la musique est vraiment merveilleuse! (Désolé si j'ai des erreurs, le français n'est pas mon premier mangue)

C'est un ultime appel à l'aide pour l'empêcher de mettre Paris à feu et à sang, mais malheureusement, il succombe à sa pulsion humaine...

But it's Disney.......it was, of course, originally done in English despite the origins of the story. I mean, imagine if Disney had to re-create each of their "borrowed" fairytales in their native languages. T'would be quite ridiculous.

They did it with Brave...well, Brave is Pixar but they are still under Disney name

avrilfantasyrin No they didn't; Gaelic was the language of Scotland at the time. One of the characters speaks Doric Scots, but Scots didn't really start to evolve until the 1100s-1200s, and wasn't really a proper language until the 1400s. Besides, that character speaks the modern dialect of it and only does it for comic effect. Aside from that, despite the fact that it would be cool and interesting to do them in the original language, I think most people would be disinterested.

@@Hopeforthisheart They should get Google Translate in to understand what they are saying but the results would be really funny

Technically he should speak in Doil

Yeah, not just this, I generally find that French dubs are the best among European Disney dubs. Germans, Spanish, Italian, Greek, they all had bad voices... Maybe except the german Belle. French (France French, because Canadian French dubs sucked) somehow found voice actresses/actors who sound very similar to original English cast.

@@ilost6321 LIP SYNC putain

I prefer the Polish version. IN Polish there is real pain in his voice when he says the part that goes "Why I see her dancing there" in the English version.

Merci beaucoup. /Swedish guy here.

@@eliasnjetski1146 i like swedish langauge as a french

@@danemon8423 I like the french language, it sounds so beautiful to me. I do like the sister languages too, like spanish, portuguese and italian. 😀

@@eliasnjetski1146 i prefer italian out of the other latin languages , and i would say that i really love all scandinavian languages , they really sound smooth to my ears lol

Damn so true

I don't understand. What is the issue? Frollo lived in Paris, so he should have had Paris accent. Is that the fact that his Paris accent in this song is too modern (1970's) for Frollo (who lived centuries ago) that amuses you?

@@typingcat no she just discovered the voice maker is an old man ^^

@@typingcat No it's more that he has an OLD popular parisian accent, from the 60s and so it's not how most people sounded when this movie came out and even more now. He sounds old even in his accent which is cool? the one thing that's kinda "wrong" is that Frollo is a judge, and Piat's accent is slightly more popular

+midnightnightmareful like especially at the end when he's commanding his diety to "make her his" otherwise she will burn. its like does he mean she will burn in hell or he, frollo, will burn her?This Disney movie honestly is a masterpiece

@@TCt83067695 I think it means both. It means that he will burn her on the stake and she will continue to burn for eternity if she doesn't submit to his desires.

You mean, sort of a double entendre? Fun fact is that double entendre is not French.

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You're right, it's probably because in France, lyrics are very important. Rhyme, beauty of the sentence... all of that will make the song sounds good :) French literature is a good example

Origin Of darkness Your English is great, but instead of using Heared you should use heard as heared isn't a word as far as I know

French translation always takes a lot of liberties compare to, for example, the french canadian one. Sometimes it's a shame (I can't stand Frozen in french. it's not bad, but half of the meanig is lost !). But sometimes, it's so good ! My favorite one is prabably what they made for Jack's Lament in Nightmare Before Christmas.

@@ManaPeerfr The meaning is not lost, it's just unmentioned. French culture doesn't like obvious messages. So instead of explicitly writing them (like barging in Anglo), French use metaphors and let the context send the messages.

Darkscarlet 101 you made my day 😂😂😂

Well, he DOES perform witchcraft! :)

I find it not to be blunt, but French seems to be quite extreme when it comes to emotions, love songs are sweet and absolutely lovely, and well, as we can see, the evil are really evil. Poetry regardless.

***** Well aren't Disney villains supposed to be really evil? Because I would remind you that it's a Disney anime.

o00eve00o nope it wasn't a disney ANIME it is a cartoon! You call it Anime if it is a asian "cartoon" - anime just means animation :D and jup the old disney villains were pretty evil :)

anime litterally means animation. they had a hard time pronouncing animation in japan so they just said anime and it stuck. in actual japanese it is used to refer to all animation, only weeaboos or ignorant people think otherwise

Though, the fact that anime is the japanese term for animation, refering to anything as anime usually refers to japanese animation(or at least, the japanese style of animation). Using it in any other way will simply lead to confusion most of the time.

+Open the Gates well damn...

"SI notre Père a fait les Hommes moins puissants que Lucifer" is also pretty damn crazy I can really tell

Unknown the spanish version its more powerfull than the english

I am french, and I think that English Lyrics are better but the French Singer is my favourite.

Well Frollo actually sounds like an old man here. In the original he sounds too young for his age.

It might be because rhyming rules are different in french and english which create very different rythms in songs. The words flow different just with how the language works.

it's "be mine, my passion"

No, it's not. You can clearly hear the "ou"; Frollo's giving her a choice here, to be his OR burn in hell instead.

+FlyinEyrie c'est " soit mienne, ma passion...bla bla" car il l'aime; et avec cette phrase, il la supplie de l'aimer, mais en même temps, il l'averti que cela ne leur fera que du mal

chase teav J'entend très clairement un "Sois mienne OU ma passion". Ici Frollo lui donne un choix, comme l'a si bien dit FlyingEyrie.

Manceau Anthony, tu es correct. J'entends "ou" aussi. Cependent c'est si calme.

Yeah I see what you are talking about, this poet Charles Baudelaire was one of the most famous poet in the history of France, but the reason is that this man was really strange, his logic was scary, he was persecuted in France due to his book «les fleurs du mal » so «Flowers of Evil”

@@alexkln1583 also because he was very hedonistic, openly wrote and taboos (Les Fleurs du Mal was supposed to be called Les Lesbiennes, which i don’t need to translate) and he was actually put on trial for his ‘unorthodox writings’

In fact, Fletrissure can also mean defamation in french. "obsene defamation" sound more accurate to me.

Well Victor Hugo was a writer french

Ah oui...

Thank you very much

L'idée, c'est que dans les chansons, c'est courant d'exagérer les consonnes pour rendre plus dramatiques, mais c'est sur que dans l'absolu, c'est pas flagrant.

Xialyd : XD en espagnol je me fais toujours crié dessue parce que je ne roule pas mes R !!! X))

tesmanga an tesmanga an : ah ah j'ai connu ça en classe d'espagnol aussi. Ma prof me hurlait pas dessus elle a juste abandonné l'idée avec moi XD

Xialyd mdrr c'est vrai

Le R français est bien plus prononcée que le R en anglais, mais ce n'est pas un R roulé comme en espagnole. En français on utilise la gorge pour pronouncer notre R, tandis quand espagnole il utilise le bout de la langue pour roulé leur R, il me semble. J'ai enseigné le français a des américains est ils ont beaucoup de mal à pronouncer notre R.

il fallait bien ce coffre pour contenir cette légende du doublage et du théâtre ... (humour noir pourri bonjour)

Mais oui Jamy !

@@valou-scaling merci pour cette intervention fort pertinente et teintée de bonne intention ❤️

oui basiquement ! Mais il y a dans notre langue pas mal d' emprunts germaniques et Hameau, Hague ou bien char en sont des exemples parmi d' autres ;) !

et oui ! Comme char ou bien charrue

+Bastien Delagneau Très intéressant, sauf que cette prononciation des R (grasseyé) est récente (fin XVIIIe) en France. Avant les R étaient roulés donc rien à voir avec la prononciation de certains R dans certaines langues Germaniques (je dis certain(e)s car les langues germaniques sont très variées, par exemple l'Anglais a des R spirants rétroflexes, et il y a plusieurs accents allemands). Pour remonter dans les temps il suffit d'entendre comment certains Quebécois font leurs R. :)

Bastien Delagneau maintenant, le tout, en anglais !

Aussi, l'anglais est une langue germanique, mais 30% de son vocabulaire vient du latin et 30% vient du français, à cause de la domination culturelle de la France durant une longue période.

Un son qui se prononce "dans la gorge" s'appelle une gutural ^^

Et pour l’histoire des roulement de R- c’est que certaines personnes qui le font ;)

Non, grrrrien de grrrrrrrien....

@@kevinvasse7499 T’es sérieux 😂

Certified Pancake Dealer For sure, french language changed a lot through time

Certified Pancake Dealer even though they kinda use an French we don't often use so as a kid it was difficult for me to understand but when i grew up it became easier lol i think they kinda respected the "old French " and made it easier to understand

(sorry for bad english, i'm french) For the film they used the current French, apart from a few old words or expressions like "linceul" or "bacchanale" (I sought their definition on the internet). If there had been real old French, I myself would have understood nothing. French was different from one region to another at that time. They learned to read and write in Latin language to be sure to send legible letters, because two Frenchmen from a different region were not understood.

Comrade Morticia Moonflower The story was wrote int 1800s

Yeah the book was written in 1800 and the translators had to remember this movie was for children ( tough it was not actually). They used words but more rare to make it look like it was ancient. Those words are understable by French people but never used ( maybe the high society does)

We only ennonciate that way in songs

And it's deliver by a "Saint Man" lol

Jean Piat, thank y'all berry much.

Marcus blazkowicz Alors je te la donne : tu aimes cette version parce qu'elle est géniale ;)

Oui. Je trouve l'autre qui est trop pas normal et surtout quand il dit tuer au lieux de dire détruit. Je pense que mettre le mot tuer est pas bien dans un film pour enfant.

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Marcus blazkowicz Sans vouloir te contredire, il y a des paroles beaucoup plus choquantes et violentes que "tuer" dans cette version de la chanson x)

Suzie Kreg Oui. X) Mais j'aime la version français puisque j'adore la chanter.

il y a des français qui écrivent encore plus mal ^-^

+chase teav Merci Beacoup. J'ai 14 ans donc je trouve assez difficile, mais il est bon de savior que je vais bien. ( J'ai utilisé Google Translate pour certaines d'entre elles! )

French girl here. Know that "I'm okay" doesn't always be translated by "Je suis bien", "je vais bien". In this case you would rather say "Je dis bien" !

+- Hakosaki - merci beacoup! Comment dit on 'Je dis bien' en anglais?

Kirsty Richens Well I don't think you could do an exact translation. That's why you cant use "Je suis bien" (I'm okay) anywhere else than in a sentence describing how you feel, physically or emotionally. "Je dis bien" would be "I"m saying well" or something like that but as I said, you can't do an exact translation.

Ah oui c'est vrai qu'on l'entend mais il est très léger

Un gosse peut ne pas comprendre les sous entendues sexuels mais il peut comprendre que frolo veut esmeralda pour lui seul quitte à la tuer.

jaimelechoco yep, mais c'est dark pour un Disney.