I tried playing Hellion but it was biggy and kinda boring.
@ToxicSkull04 жыл бұрын
Clear & Present Prepping thats why it should be removed
@cpprepper26624 жыл бұрын
@@ToxicSkull0 Sadly I agree. I feel for the devs though. It's tough doing that.
@MrLarsalexander4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever played MP, and just played for fun? It’s cheap and still F hard! Plzz leave this game alone!!!
@BigfryTV4 жыл бұрын
Stfu Alex you've commented like 4 times already. The game is dead af
@Jtoob-z5n4 жыл бұрын
A lot of games should be removed from steam...
@dedi6664 жыл бұрын
@3D Modeller Nah that one should stay
@Jtoob-z5n4 жыл бұрын
@3D Modeller missed that one
@MartianV2GG4 жыл бұрын
@3D Modeller noo noo not that one
@annabella16504 жыл бұрын
True, but that would require Valve to create a larger criteria for what games they’ll allow on their platform and it’d backfire as Steam is now. Though I’d say “a game you intent to finish” would be a good start.
@krazykris93964 жыл бұрын
80% of all games should be removed on steam.
@CoFRTheGamerXxX4 жыл бұрын
So they’re selling abandonware. (By their own admission) while stealing money to fund their own stuff, while claiming to have run out of money. This developer should be black listed.
@annabella16504 жыл бұрын
That’s if they’re producing another game, which from what I’ve seen is just a rumour. However they should still be viewed with suspicion if they aren’t making another game with their funds, and if they make another game then I wouldn’t touch it.
@jernplays18154 жыл бұрын
Yet that doesn’t stop them. Tarnish a name or development studio... just close it down and open the buisness up again with another name.
@ereder14764 жыл бұрын
at least they are honest. they have no place in dirty dev series. They could have put it in maintenance mode and claim they are still working on it. But no, they were honest. It will be funny (or not) if CIG have the courage of one day, say X is unfixable due to spaggetticode. But it probably will never be release officially so that the real cash shop stays up with ship for hundreds or thousand of dollars while keeping the "it's still a beta" excuse forever.
@azadalamiq4 жыл бұрын
@@LukasRustemeyer Please do ur research and look up the development history of ff14 1.0.
@lovelesswolf20114 жыл бұрын
@@LukasRustemeyer when was the last time you heard of a movie being released with sound missing and only some of the CGI completed? When was the last time you heard of a toy manufacture only releasing a toy half built and selling it. When was the last time you heard of a manufacture to release only part of a project and sell it on the market. This is an unfinished product and it is being sold. No company releases an unfinished product.
@maboilaurence82274 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to see a pattern. Whenever I see a cool looking game on Steam i'm like "wow, cool concept devs, I'll buy it later when it feels more finished". Then, when i've forgotten about it I see youtubers claiming the game is dead, then I go to its steam page and the reviews are mostly negative. I guess i'm saving money atleast?
@Patrick737874 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@harackmw4 жыл бұрын
I have experienced the same. checking on them once in a while through my wishlist, often forgetting I put the game there. But yea, it can save you money!
@boozehound57063 жыл бұрын
you seem to be clairvoyant, saves you a lot of money!
@linkthegamerguy87322 жыл бұрын
I copped the game for free just before it WAS taken off steam. I actually enjoyed the game quite a bit aside from the occasional bug that I personally experienced. But any serious issues were fixed with a simple restart. I wish the game had been able to continue development as this is such a good idea and I really enjoyed it. Thankfully the Hellion Rescue Project is planning to fix a lot of the issues and even update the game themselves.
@joshstaffen46494 жыл бұрын
honestly... they should have lowered the game to roughly $3.00 released mod tools updated the steam page to say what happened and idk make development a hobby to get rid of the bugs
@kbomb12354 жыл бұрын
Josh Staffen this 100%
@publicalias81723 жыл бұрын
$3? I'd beat the shit out of you personally. People spend more on asset flips. This was all them
@ermwhatdaheck3 жыл бұрын
@@publicalias8172 calm down buddy damn
@Kaodusanya4 жыл бұрын
I guess you really do need 260mil to make a game like this
@americanriot86894 жыл бұрын
Kehinde O facts! ha
@vrbro20224 жыл бұрын
@No Name Uh yea they have, SC 3.8 is very much a game at this point and has been for quiet a while I am sorry but these old jokes just go to show that you know nothing of Star Citizen lol
@vrbro20224 жыл бұрын
@No Name Ahahahahahahahaha man these jokes are so old it hurts... Honestly in 2019 these jokes just make you look really dumb especially since many games like Hellion can't get off the ground but please keep going we will keep laughing.
@PolyFPV4 жыл бұрын
VR BRO bro SC is a buggy, shitty mess. Stop acting like it’s something it isn’t. You can’t even run a mission without running into some crazy bugs, most of them mission breaking.
@vrbro20224 жыл бұрын
@@PolyFPV I play 3.8 with ease, I have not experienced any major game breaking issues again another that has not played the game lol
@crunchykevlar4 жыл бұрын
Finding new good games is getting difficult, damn I'm a boomer
@ToxicSkull04 жыл бұрын
Boomers dont care about gamemodes. Youre good
@minusrandloev2614 жыл бұрын
Wtf is a boomer
@braydencharles61884 жыл бұрын
@3D Modeller The demo was really good. I can't wait for the full game
@Obi1-KenBone-Me4 жыл бұрын
Boomers are at the top of the food chain
@jnoirj31244 жыл бұрын
@@minusrandloev261 Its the generation after baby boomers.
@edofmyst4 жыл бұрын
It’s more of a space survival game. It’s more like “The Forest” or “Rust” than Elite Dangerous or Star Citizen
@ezmkmone534 жыл бұрын
Whenever this happens i find my finest wine, light my caramel mocha scented candles, find my fart robe with silk from eastern lands, and sit in my recliner and scoff.
@Reytose14 жыл бұрын
A man of culture👏👏
@sher.89714 жыл бұрын
*fart robe*
@hellodarkness56444 жыл бұрын
Whencyou fart in a robe it allows your farts to travel upward towards the collar area allowing you to smell your concentrated fart. Its the highest quality sniff of fart you can get without it being polluted by fresh air or losing its potency by free dispersion.
@RODE854 жыл бұрын
This is why I no longer want to support early access games. Even though games like ARK, Rust, Miscreated, PUBG removed the "Early Access" tag to their games they still run and are updating like early access games.
@DWAC4 жыл бұрын
And if no more purchases are made they will stop development bet your life on it
@CDLightt4 жыл бұрын
Rust and PUBG are more than complete games so whats the issue?
@nekomancer46414 жыл бұрын
Continuous update is not exclusive an early access thing. If so you might as well say WoW is an early access game.
@annabella16504 жыл бұрын
I agree. In theory early access can work, it did for Slime Rancher and it seems to have worked for Hades, but developers use early access as an excuse to release barely functioning games and leave them to stagnate. It’s annoying because it’s not the idea that was bad, just the execution.
@Hates-handle4 жыл бұрын
I hear a lot of this but every early access game I've bought eventually left it as a completed product
@ToxicSkull04 жыл бұрын
Horrible Games and Devs: Exists* BigFry: “So you have chosen... death”
@itzaprem63584 жыл бұрын
ToxicSkull0 I feel like nothing happens to them anyway
@jeffreyfuhz4 жыл бұрын
ur gay
@deevee53274 жыл бұрын
Oh look. A small dev studio trying to make a huge game and failing because it was far much more than they could ever succeed in creating? Who could have foreseen that! :O I was actually looking forward to Hellion. My hopes for it releasing were, however, very low.
@Lesminster4 жыл бұрын
Star Citizen studio(CIG?) when they launched with kickstarter was absolutely tiny :) After couple years of funding they achieved size of aaa. In case of ZH it just didn't go that well ;)
@Skyhunter8264 жыл бұрын
@@Lesminster yes but when are they ever going to actually release a real game? How many years have they been in development? A lot of people still have quite a few big bugs when they try and play
@Lesminster4 жыл бұрын
@@Skyhunter826 When you take a look on how much time it takes for regular fully developed AAA studio to produce their flag-type game you will notice Star Citizen development doesnt really take that much time, especially considering the scope of it ;) GTA V took like 10 years or so and rockstar was already big back when they started. Other thing is regular games are not revealed till some state of development or until finished, and what is even more important you won't hear of any bugs and problems of a development process of a game that is not on early access so you may get the impression that Star Citizen is somehow worse or "full of bugs", it is but it is early access game and every game in it's state would be stuffed with issues, but you just won't hear about them from a studio that is not obligated to tell you ;) Worth mentioning is that optimization usually takes place after certain crucial game modules are finished.
@shekelboob4 жыл бұрын
Lesminster you forgot to mention another thing, SC will be pushing the limits of what’s possible in modern gaming, that, coupled with the fact that they are an indie studio developing their first game makes the amount of development time spent seem reasonable.
@killingerk4 жыл бұрын
hey look what happened to Fallout 76 people still bought it even for $60
@12LoLproductions4 жыл бұрын
Yeah don't remind me, I still had some fun with my German friends on there though.
@DeNihility4 жыл бұрын
Is it still cool to trash on FO76? I played it with friends and got my money's worth. It really is nowhere near as bad as people make it to be. People like you seem to hop on the bandwagon to trash that game, but I'd wager you've never even played it.
@Hitman2b4 жыл бұрын
hey the game was fun at launch but yeah they fuck ruined it
@ofiser44 жыл бұрын
i didnt buyed fallout 76
@baguette28294 жыл бұрын
You literally can't Glad you still managed to get some fun out of it, but the game is not being trashed for not being ‘fun’. The game is being trashed for being a ‘flagship status’ product which was released way too early and the developers were aware of this, since they have not fixed the issues or content they promised since the start, and since they turned to even more buyable content updates (even outside of cosmetic updates) I’m wondering if I’ll ever spend my hard earned money on a bethesda game again. I used to love the studio, but Fallout 76 is nothing more than an unfinished cash cow sadly
@idlehour4 жыл бұрын
I like when you say. "Assholey"
@idlehour4 жыл бұрын
@No Name poetry
@SilverMe20044 жыл бұрын
The 'former programmer' said that it needed to be rebuilt. My guess is that when the developer told the investor that they needed to go back to step 1 the investor decided there was not enough interest in the game to warrant further investment
@willowthewispy4 жыл бұрын
Fair arguments. I bought Hellion, I'm actually still playing it. I think it sucks they can't complete it. Do I feel I lost my money? I put 43 enjoyable hours into the game. Bought it for 22 euros. A simplistic method I use is that I rate how satisfied about a game by dividing the money by the amount of hours played if that number is above 1 then I'm not happy about my purchase. that's 0.511 for Hellion. (Kerbal space program was really good at 0.05 probably even lower because I've spent ages playing it before it even got to steam early access) Subnautica was somewhere in between. Those games made it in part because of early access. So in short... No... I didn't waste my money.. I'd still spend the money knowing what I know now. It's early access. You know you're playing an incomplete game, a game that you risk will never be completed. The upside is that you're investing in the dreams of game-devs. I was part of the hellion experience. I enjoyed the game, and still do. And the few euros won't break my bank. You win some you lose some. They should however clearly indicate the status of the game as no longer under production on the store page. Not doing so is unethical. I understand the issues they probably have with lost revenue for a company that is small and struggling. But that's no excuse to mislead your customers. I have recommended against buying the game on steam for this reason.
@StewartCoates4 жыл бұрын
I love the community you've built with both fans, and content creators Fry. Seriously, all of you bounce off of each other, you make topics like these seen and shared to so many people by working together, sharing information, and shouting each other out. All this probably goes without saying, but you guys are bringing people together, and keeping them informed. Brilliant work to everyone involved. Here for 10k, here for 100k, and I'll sure as hell be here for a mil. up up up baby!
@darkironphoenix4 жыл бұрын
The issue here is that if hellion should be removed from steam, then you need to go have a look at After Reset, a tech demo that has been on steam for a very long time with a 30 quid price tag, with no obvious development going on (barring a developer decision to drop the price to 14.99 for the sale). At the very least, hellion is a game that you can play and enjoy to a certain degree.
@CaimanoGaming4 жыл бұрын
That was cool to see my gameplay featuring this video. My experience with the Hellion was rather positive, especially when the devs added single player mode `cause multiplayer was literally unplayable with all the bugs it used to have. But i agree with BigfryTV`s message that the front page of the game in Steam has to be changed as it is misleading people who just surfing the Steam store and know nothing about the case. By "misleading" i mean that nearly 60% of the game features listed are still marked as "in development". That`s a shame.
@aimless-drifter4 жыл бұрын
I've paid full price for the game just when it was released. I like the fact that they use orbital physics, I liked how difficult it was to pilot and doc ships I wanted to support the development of this game. I knew there is a chance the game my fail completely. Last time I played the game was about 3 years ago. It was fun :) It sucks that they fail and I wish more game devs try to make games with real orbital physics.
@_bully_dogs4 жыл бұрын
If they can afford to make another game then why the hell didn't they finish it.
@annabella16504 жыл бұрын
Well, to play Devil’s advocate, that’s only a rumour at this point and they have denied it by saying that they don’t have the money to keep their studio together. Granted that could be a lie, or maybe just one of the guys took the money and ran, but I wouldn’t buy any new games they release.
@_bully_dogs4 жыл бұрын
@@annabella1650 Agreed
@Blazs120gl4 жыл бұрын
Pocketing the remaining money, is no pure business model, this is called exit scam. Btw, what is the point of putting the rest of the money into new projects? Who would be wanting to buy into any new projects from such devs?
@videorowtv51984 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately a lot of people don't check devs before purchasing or even prepurchasing games.
@annabella16504 жыл бұрын
This is why Steam needs a developer and publisher review system, so people can see how good those folks are or if they’ve got a reputation for crappy behaviour.
@darkironphoenix4 жыл бұрын
Barring one person's review on the steam page, there is no evidence that there is any money left.
@annabella16504 жыл бұрын
@darkironphoenix That’s true and should be taken into account, but they still have a webpage for the game up and the Steam page is still advertising features they aren’t adding. I’d say that’s at least a bit suspect.
@darkironphoenix4 жыл бұрын
@@annabella1650 They should update the description sure, but as for the webpage, the game is still for sale, so i don't really see why they can't have a webpage for it, as long as it reflects the state of the game.
@TheXelum4 жыл бұрын
Dont forget that there are also great Games in Early Access. Deep Rock Galactic, The Forest, Rimworld. :) ROCK AND STONE !
@ofiser44 жыл бұрын
... yes and now compare this good games with bad ones, so who wins? how many bad early access are existing compared to good ones? :x
@AlbertoMartinez7654 жыл бұрын
FTL its not all failure stories.
@Samuelkings4 жыл бұрын
Sorry boys, Star Citizen is the space game to rule them all
@Ratty_Mask4 жыл бұрын
Where you can buy million dollar ships with real money...
@AlbertoMartinez7654 жыл бұрын
@@Ratty_Mask There are no Million dollar ships in SC , Go check out Entropia Universe its been out several years now and they sell land and planets For Thousands of Real Dollars and in fact Hold the Title of Most expensive virtual assets ever sold. A planet was sold for over $30, 000 Dollars just like 2 years ago.
@danf24 жыл бұрын
If they dont cut and run in their Lamborghinis.
@Ratty_Mask4 жыл бұрын
@@AlbertoMartinez765 oh did I confuse the two? I swear (while I was exacturating) star citizen sells ships for a few hundred bucks
@fresh_knacker62264 жыл бұрын
@@Ratty_Mask u know that u can already rent a lot of ships ingame for ingame money and only have to pay 50 bucks for a great & long lasting experience
@WisdomFeather4 жыл бұрын
The game is being removed from steam tight now. Its free to keep until 30.3.2020 and then the game wont be purchasable. Pretty sad :( it had potential but devs f***ed it up
@Shadox4984 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% sure this is a result of Star Citizen. The devs are fully aware of the shadow that Star Citizen is casting on all new space games, they know they have less capital, less users and ultimately a dramatically smaller market share. They're scared and they know they won't be able to match SC, hence moving onto other projects. Change my mind
@Patrick737874 жыл бұрын
Yes that's actually a possibility.
@rubberductape49854 жыл бұрын
Won't be able to match SC? It's pretty easy to match and surpass a game that will never come out haha.
@DeusMachina_EXE4 жыл бұрын
I remember this. I was pretty interested in it and wanted to wait simply because it was so ambitious. Good thing I waited.
@Triple_D_Bruin4 жыл бұрын
I was in the same boat, waiting until they had things ironed out before dropping money on it. Perfect example of dodging a bullet.
@annabella16504 жыл бұрын
Good choice. As a general rule of thumb I don’t touch early access games that are multiplayer focused (or touch early access at all really), because it’s never easy to come up with a good idea and not execute it.
@DeusMachina_EXE4 жыл бұрын
@@annabella1650 there's some Early access games that I get into. ONLY if they have a clear vision, and there is enough at the EA release of the game to get into.
@annabella16504 жыл бұрын
@DeusMachina I watch the ones I’m interested in and wait for a full release.
@DeusMachina_EXE4 жыл бұрын
@@annabella1650 that's fair. I'm just not entirely scared of EA because I've backed quite a few things that came to full release. So I'm not too worried. And out of all of them only 2 never fully released.
@Rodach344 жыл бұрын
You should review Hentai World War 2. It’s a hardcore tactical shooter that shows off the horrors of war and the brutal reality of it all.
@ApocalypseGuy14 жыл бұрын
Hellion developers are a bunch of guys from Belgrade, Serbia, who were essentially given a ton of money to make this game. Serbs being Serbs, they ended up squandering most of it on overpriced computers and an overpriced workspace equipped with things like massage chairs, gym, beds, etc., George Romero-style. The management essentially heavily mismanaged the funds the company had, which is why the company went down the drain and the project was released like this.
@shekelboob4 жыл бұрын
Giga do you have any evidence to support this?
@RealBadGaming52 Жыл бұрын
If that’s true then the game was scam
@atlas88274 жыл бұрын
No, it shouldn't. What if a person who doesn't own it wants to play the game? Then what?
@AlbertoMartinez7654 жыл бұрын
Agreed there enough "Game" for someone to play for dozens of hours just Put a Tag on it "Unfinished Abandoned by Devs" and let people try it if they think it's interesting.l The devs handed over the game to the Mods and left the servers running so anyone can play they could have said OH well shut it down and shut down the servers they didn't.
@Volkaer3 жыл бұрын
I have the opposite issue. Saw it during the development, went "cool, I'll pop back here in a year's time to see you guys still have the same vision / haven't sold out / when the game is more complete and is less 'early access' and whatnot" - turns it out it got abandoned, pity but fair enough. Now when the devs left it as free to play due to abandoning the project, I can't find it anywhere to try and see where they got up to since it's not available on Steam and can't be downloaded anywhere else...
@BadV00d00z2 жыл бұрын
the only way someone that doesnt have it on their library is to family share, have it downloaded on a computer then request the access from the steam owner, but the owner cant be on at the same time.
@Zegger4 жыл бұрын
"Hey, we started making the game, and althought we haven't finished it officially, people weren't paying and playing so we decided to stop making the game"
@essonit35364 жыл бұрын
The game looks good tho
@kbomb12354 жыл бұрын
jusuf kartoev there are parts that are actually FUN. I’ve played it a bunch. Even as recently as a month ago.
@sheriffaboubakar97204 жыл бұрын
jusuf kartoev A game can look good, but that doesn't mean it IS good (like Order 1886 or Ryse)
@Brody_Austin4 жыл бұрын
@@sheriffaboubakar9720 ryse is good though. It may be short but I thoroughly enjoyed it when I played it
@Games4Kickz4 жыл бұрын
I agree, it might not have been intentional and they had a serious lack of skills to tackle the issues the fact is, as you said, way to early in early access and the way they decided to react to the situation. The proper way would have been to do what the documentation recommends under "What happens if I don't complete my game?" and contact STEAM. If they don't make profit anyway, they could just pull the game and close the servers with a 6 month notice to fans or similar. Developers never seem to read the documentation STEAM gives them and if they do they just ignore the guidelines and think they know better. I think content creators have read it more than devs.
@AlbertoMartinez7654 жыл бұрын
Why would you screw the people who backed you even MORE by shutting down the servers? These Guy's are keeping the servers OPEN so people can play and they turned the game over to the Mods, they did a lot better then they could have.
@DessertMonkey4 жыл бұрын
The interesting thing is that they used Early Access as a way to keep their mismanaged project above water, pushing their problems onto their consumers and delaying the inevitable instead of fixing the fundamental issues with their broken product before public release. Early Access is not an excuse to put a price tag on a broken product.
@shadowfoxgaming66574 жыл бұрын
I bought this game because of bluedrake 42 lol last early access game I ever bought it was good but sad it didn't take off now Star Citizen is the only one left that is actually doing something good with 3.8 and here's hoping all the money they made will turn out a good game after Dayz and this game Early Access is a reminder how we can only support so much as it's up to the developers to show promise gameplay and future updates
@thenegromancer46954 жыл бұрын
Bludrakes titles....are like this
@henrikskjolden4 жыл бұрын
Bluedrake is a frakkin' joke tho', I mean. Come on! :O
@Snottco4 жыл бұрын
"The reason no one plays it is cause I didn't play it" wow the ego on this guy
@BigfryTV4 жыл бұрын
It was a joke... guess it didnt land
@SaidMetiche-qy9hb4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's a joke, he couldn't build a fraction of what these 4 programmers built even if he had a billion dollars.
@SaidMetiche-qy9hb4 жыл бұрын
"Start small", yeah thanks, cuz we definitely need another fucking looter shooter or shitty survival game lmao, what a joke
@rwentfordable4 жыл бұрын
@@SaidMetiche-qy9hb He never said he could develop a game. He just pointed out the facts a dev did a cash grab again.
@oliver_twistor4 жыл бұрын
@@SaidMetiche-qy9hb Just because a game is small in scope doesn't mean it has to be bland copy of something else. I've played many small scoped games that are very unique and enjoyable. I feel like many first time game developers bite off more than they can chew. You should always strive to scope your projects according to your resources (time, money, skill), regardless of what you do. Are you a single carpenter with only one summer to spare, maybe you shouldn't build that majestic castle with 40 rooms and sprawling catacombs. Maybe build a small cottage or something like that. Or if you are a small group of game developers, maybe build a smallish single-player game in 2D. Most gamers would prefer a small and short, but completed game that sells for a few dollars, than the promise of a huge game that's unfinished and continues to be a money sink.
@raeepar40854 жыл бұрын
@BigfryTV Hey man, have you heard of Guardians of Orion? It's currently in phase 1, it costs only a dollar on Steam, and the Devs said that Phase 2 will bring in a lot more content hopefully. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
@parawill70744 жыл бұрын
It never should have been a MP title. It should have strictly been a SP title which would have allowed them concentrate on the AI and other stuff. They did release a SP mode, but I wasn't interested in buying the game after hearing the complaints.
@fallingfirex4 жыл бұрын
Early access is so hard to judge. This is one of a number of games that just failed and fell far short of what was promised. At the same time, look at The Isle, a game that looked so bad at first, that was buggy beyond belief. Now it is a wonderful game, with a great dev team. Its even getting a full recode to fix the issues they cant with their current system. Early access is like kickstarter. Some projects are amazing, and some never even reach backers.
@AlbertoMartinez7654 жыл бұрын
Correct its a Gamble Day One, Nothing is guaranteed..its up to you as an Adult to decide if you want to take the Risk.
@seriousgamer544 жыл бұрын
It is definitely a mixed bag, most do fail, but you can get some real gems like Rimworld, prison architect, and others.
@benjamin10894 жыл бұрын
Star citizen but without the budget.
@Maelsethe420 Жыл бұрын
so me and my friend have been working for about a year and a half on a massive mod for the game . basicly expanding the game even further with everything they said ' work in progress) being done aswell . i been tyring to contact the developers about the mod because we're not tryna get sued when we release this to the public
@Khalith4 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised by their response. I was like 99% certain they were going to start throwing “defamation” around.
@aweldof4 жыл бұрын
Not to sound like a dick, but who the hell actually thought this was going to work out? These shitty indie games pop up in early access to steal your money a thousand times a year, and yet everyone acts all shocked when the game is trash. How many times do they need to fool you before you learn? It's like buying bootleg DVDs from a street corner, just to be bewildered and appalled when it turns out you didn't actually get a copy of The Godfather 7. Do people put any research into things before they start throwing money away? Everyone complains about the abundance of early access scams, but the real issue is that you keep falling for it. Wow, who would have guessed the wildly overambitious indie company with no accountability wouldn't deliver on their promise...
@joker_g73374 жыл бұрын
I still like the concept. I am eager to get to play such a game in the future. They should try to sell the code or sell the IP.
@Scarecr0wn4 жыл бұрын
Aaand it is here, they offer it for free until 30.3., then there will be no way to obtain it. And then they will only keep servers up in maintenance mode.
@kingkwabs4 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about star citizen, it is still better than this lol
@kamencic4 жыл бұрын
Not just that. They somehow have found a way to sustain. They are still going strong. Probably as strong as ever.
@ereder14764 жыл бұрын
@@kamencic well... SC make you buy multi thousand dollar ship and the average "real user" (so disregarding thoses who bought alt account) spending is well over 200$ per backer ... and nearly 300m in funding... Not even ONE single ship was gifted to backer as thanks. EVERYTHING you can make money of, you sell. but they have no choice if you look at their disclosed financial repport of 2017.(cost of dev/year and money in reserve) Objectively speaking SC is far worst, should they stop development (concidering they DO NOT have 200m in reserve but are living year to year) the implosion of the bubble will eb so large you could create another universe. I think it's unfair to say this when SC is getting tons of funds and will continue as long as the game stays in developpment. (because once release they won't be abble to sell ships anymore)
@kamencic4 жыл бұрын
@@ereder1476 Why look 2017 report. They released 2019 report. During this year they've spent 14 milions more than they obtained. But they both earned the most and spent the most during the passing year. They have several solutuons to success. One of the most probably ones is to just have one similar year and half maybe and then release Squadron42 in 2021. After that they'll have both increased income and decreased costs. edit: in short words they are in place they wanted to be.
@ereder14764 жыл бұрын
@@kamencic link it to me then, i have not seen it. but the problem still stand: they cost/year is so much that should they cut their funding or suffer multiple bad years, they won't be able to continue the development for no more than 2-3 years. Meanwhile in 2016 (so after CR decided to increase the scope of the game) CR said that they had enouth money, so much so that should the funding stop completly, they would have enouth to finish SC for release . that was back when they had 140m IIRC. 2017 report shown that that was a lie. Why lying? i am glad they raised more than they spent. but that's thanks to anniversarry sells etc . this is a short term view.
@kamencic4 жыл бұрын
@@ereder1476 I maybe wasn't clear. They didn't raise more than they spent. They spent 7 milions more. In previous post I said 14 but I was mistaken. I didn't see report but watched a video from SC content creator who has explained it. I could find you link to that video if you are interested really.
@Snicker4334 жыл бұрын
Just go play Star Citizen.
@CrowdControl1234 жыл бұрын
Katze - I love good sarcasm!
@shekelboob4 жыл бұрын
Politica Agnostica what?
@tarazed844 жыл бұрын
So they're using money people gave them to develop a specific game to fund *other* games? Isn't that simply fraud?
@krazykris93964 жыл бұрын
I remember watching someone stream this on twitch a few years ago, and almost getting sick from watching it. I was one of the people that begged you to cover it.
@elipiliper99954 жыл бұрын
If only all early access devs followed the model of Rimworld
@sisthesis4 жыл бұрын
Why add a Star Citizen tag when talking about another game?
@Black-Re4per4 жыл бұрын
Valve should just remove the early access function completely it's totally broken and 99% of early access games are scams or doomed from the beginning.
@Cid_14 жыл бұрын
I think people should take note of the devs that was involved with this project. Cause with their behavior, I would expect them to change the name of their "studio" before launching their other project as we seen with so many failed "games" before. The fact that they already have another project means they have known this for a long time, and planned for it. Watch out for them in 2020 and don't give them your money again.
@tsunamio77504 жыл бұрын
11:30 Early access is used as a way to help fund the development of games. That is the only point... How do you know they got money ONLY from the early access? They talked about their investors that lost money... who are they talking about? FFS, your video raise more questions than answers!
@tsunamio77504 жыл бұрын
12:35 I don't know if you've ever been coding is a huge code base, but you get some shit I can tell you. When you have to rebuild the fundation, the whole goes to trash too.
@j8ckfi3 жыл бұрын
'Notice: At the request of the publisher, HELLION is no longer available for sale on Steam.' :(
@ArthaxtaDaVince7774 жыл бұрын
Hey BigFry, can you show off the new animations for World War 3? Alot of people are hyped at the animations they will be adding soon in the next update. You can find it on steam news.
@BigfryTV4 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow baby! Already on it!
@ArthaxtaDaVince7774 жыл бұрын
@@BigfryTV Awesome man, thank you!
@darkshadowsaver4 жыл бұрын
You aren't harsh enough since if they are making another game then they don't have funding for that game either if that is what they are saying that they didn't take the money and run is true then how on earth will they fund another gimped product under their belt.
@thenegromancer46954 жыл бұрын
Probably buy assets
@KnowingDigitalTruth4 ай бұрын
Many years later, the game is no longer on steam. I am sure they took the money and formed a new LLC.
@AgentSapphire4 жыл бұрын
The biggest shame about Hellion is that not all the devs were pieces of shit. It only takes a few bad eggs though... The experience of Hellion is probably worth 10. You will sink a lot of hours into it if you choose to play it (provided you're not eaten by a shelf) but they absolutely should release mod tools and include the half finished stuff in the game's code so that the players can do more with it. Even if the bugs will never fully be fixed the game itself is one hell of a foundation for great things. It also occurs to me that Hellion is more engaging in its current bare bones state than Fallout 76 ever was. So take that for what you will.
@duramirez4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video Big, i bought 2 licenses of this game to support the development, i got a lot of drama from some moderators for giving them feedback, i got banned from their discord server for saying "murica" in the context that i was joking around with a friend in their server, and a moderator said it was racism, and just banned me without giving me any second to talk about it. I was part of the so called "Test Squad", i invested myself into this game, tried to help out, and then, they decided to end the community "test squad" internalizing the test team, basically silencing the feedback from the community, they are shady. I agree that the game should not be set as "complete" it is a total lie and bullshit. They deserve the bad rep they are getting and i think it is not enough. In the steam discussion board there's a lot of people defending them saying we should CHILL because we got what we paid for, and we should not say the are scum. Hey i am super ok with people wanting to hand down money to these guys, but i have the right to complain, since i paid for the game. No one has the right to silence backlash, if you think it's all good for you, nice, go live your life, let the ones that do not agree with you, lash out. I clicked the report button on the steam page for this game saying that the game was not completed and should not be for sale. But of course it was ignored. :-\
@tsunamio77504 жыл бұрын
8:30 Before saying that they took the money and ran with it, can we get... I don't know... the estimated ammount of money left?This is the one point that would make me agree with you. With what was left in their pockets, would they have made it?
@SkylerLinux9 ай бұрын
You're wrong, if I want to have my friends play with me. I should be able to play with them.
@haun_ted4 жыл бұрын
just get a job at steam quality control man, they clearly need u
@Obi1-KenBone-Me4 жыл бұрын
They dont need him,they need money
@annabella16504 жыл бұрын
Steam doesn’t have quality control, which is part of the problem.
@danke11504 жыл бұрын
@@annabella1650 Why exactly is it a problem? No one is forced to buy the games and they are clearly separated by the early access tag.
@fungunfanatic4 жыл бұрын
I loved this game, if it simply wasn't for the game breaking bugs from allowing me to progress... I could have sank a few hundred more hours into it. I just wanted bugs fixed but they kept adding content instead of fixing the game. Overall it is disappointing how things ended up.
@fritzflitz2 жыл бұрын
fun fact, its off from steam a while now but there are modders working on this game now. called Hellion Rescue Project, completely free of charge
@BadV00d00z2 жыл бұрын
Me and my friends had fun and enjoy the game, yes there is many bugs but still fun. I feel the community would make the game better with mods. Im not sure if zero gravity went out of business but they should of did what star citizen does, make it crowd funded, either by donations or buying and work with people. New ideas and people that live and breath mods have events that prize money for do this as in, here is the ablity to mod the game make a build with ship to ship docking, or ship modification. So people would do the work then get compensated for the coding. Hellion is not really like other games, I have star citizen and have put hundreds of dollars into that and im pretty sure I have more hours in hellion than that game which has millions of funding.
@fritzflitz2 жыл бұрын
@@BadV00d00z Check out Hellion Rescue Project (HRP) if you havent already They are working on Hellion, they already released a Version called HRP-Light with a few changes, lots of bugfixes, performance is way better and they are working on the version HRP-Full that is Hellion with Major changes and newly made Content, the launcher is free of charge but they are open for donations to the project. I can finally relive memories i had in this game once again. (im even open for crew ups ;D)
@Frank_G_Finster4 жыл бұрын
I bought this "product" almost a year ago, but did not install it even once, because i wanted to wait for more of the listed features to be in, when starting. I will ask Steam for a refund (not that i expect to get anything, but i still want to step on their nerves).
@MrBones6963 жыл бұрын
HELLION is a prime example to why good prototypes shouldnt be place on steam until you can actally make something of it with good backing.
@Texas2404 жыл бұрын
Good job highlighting Steam's early access regulations. Too many games are allowed to be launched in early access with the early access sales being the primary source of development funding. The only way Hellion, as abandonware, should be allowed to stay on Steam is if it's free and labeled as a demo that won't be completed. I think Steam and other storefronts that allow early access sales need to self regulate before actual legislation happens that screws over the very few developers who have an actual development plan and use early access to both show off the game and use player feedback to help guide development and fix issues. I read a lot of reviews on Steam early access games where the reviewer says something like, "the game has x, y, z problems and is missing content, but it's still early access, so I'm sure it will be sorted out by launch." There's guarantee that an early access game will be completed or that issues x y z will be fixed, but there's a player leaving a positive review. Steam should cap early access game price to something like $5 and / or be liable for refunds if an early access game is not not completed. The 1st would benefit gullible players, the 2nd would force Steam to vet developers who want to use early access. Realistically though, the entire games industry is early access. Bethesda and Ubisoft are notorious for selling "complete" games a year before they're actually bug fixed and feature complete. Most major publishers use "dlc" instead of "early access", but that's even more nefarious because they are charging full price for an incomplete, early access quality game, then charging more for the "dlc" that brings the game up to actual release quality.
@shortafroman44 жыл бұрын
I think you were about 10-15% too harsh. Namely on them being the shining example of Early Access problems. Tbh, the mere fact that they actually tried for years puts them above many others imo. If we're taking them at their word, anyway.
@jtjones47274 жыл бұрын
It's a shame really. I think this game had great potential. A lot of good ideas and mechanics already in the game. But, it was probably a mistake to try to make something with so much scope on Unity to begin with. Of course, one of my all time favorite games, was Subnautica, and the devs had a huge amount of work to get the game playable in Unity, but in the end they made something that I still love to this day.
@kingco7744 жыл бұрын
I didn't cover it, that's why almost nobody plays it. Wow!
@owd2004 жыл бұрын
Yeah, every game that either doesn't release or releases in a garbage state makes me happier that I continue to put money into Star Citizen. They have the team and funding to actually deliver.
@Patrick737874 жыл бұрын
I agree. Star Citizen succeeds because they have been smart. They are not on Steam, they are their own publisher, have their own website and their own game launcher. Thanks to former CryTek employees who joined CIG, they were able to completely re-wrote their engine in 64 bit to fit their scope and ambition instead of using limited 32 bit Unreal or Unity engines. They receive massive support because they're building something for which there is a huge demand in the gaming market right now. They constantly show to their fans what they are working on. They also built 5 studios with most of their staff located in Europe where it is much more cost effective compared to having everything in the U.S. They love PC gamers and are building their game with PC hardware capabilities in mind. The game utilize as many CPU cores/threads as available, multi-GPUs, SSD bandwidth that help with the zero loading screen experience, and will soon be ported to Vulkan. They have also been smart by using the Amazon eco-system. They use both their custom 64bit variant of the Amazon Lumberyard engine and Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud servers.
@gfdgfdgfdgfdgfdgd4 жыл бұрын
yeah right, see you in 80 new concept ships
@sirbeast97262 жыл бұрын
mount and blades a good example of gaming industy going in the right direction
@TheRealSarcasmO4 жыл бұрын
Should be free to play with opening the code for the servers to the Publix so it doesn't completely die also there should be a punishment for the developer since that was false advertising and they took the money to use for other things that should be proven last of all they shouldn't be allowed to continue charging for a game that's not done
@tsunamio77504 жыл бұрын
11:00 Failure is not the same as dishonesty.
@kasasensei4 жыл бұрын
Many studios are doing this, using the money to develop new projects and abandon the last ones...
@TheJakub3454 жыл бұрын
dead matter is a carbon copy of this situation
@BigfryTV4 жыл бұрын
? How
@TheJakub3454 жыл бұрын
@@BigfryTV just open your eyes and you will see, the writing is on the wall unfortunately
@BigfryTV4 жыл бұрын
Okay, but you want explain how they are similar? One game hasnt even released a build yet?
@TheJakub3454 жыл бұрын
@@BigfryTV yeah I mean is its going to be a similar situation
@GortonaGaming4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, brilliant video! I am totally with you. I tested the game too in it's early stages on my channel and eventhough it was very promissing, it did never deliver what we expected. Keeping the game on Steam shows exactly what problems we had in the last years with that whole early access-crap. Games should put on the market when they are ready. Thx for your vids, keep on rockin' and Happy New Year!
@LunaMoon03 ай бұрын
if them make the game free it will live. there is an active community even though you can no longer buy the game
@Steggman Жыл бұрын
Hellion had great potential, but the support wasn't there.
@brethnew4 жыл бұрын
"genre" is the word you're looking for when comparing it to Star Citizen or Elite Dangerous
@brethnew4 жыл бұрын
@No Name gotem
@at_the_speed_of_life85364 жыл бұрын
its just wrong. your right. ppl payed for early access with the understanding and agreement that the money is to pay for a finished product period. This is Fraud.
@RobTheTrucker4 жыл бұрын
I unistalled Hellion after all the bug issues and the development was ended. So much potential, shame.
@FulguroGeek4 жыл бұрын
Kickstarter and crowd funded games have made game dev think they could do the most crazy game they ever imagine with a limited team and budget and good faith. But when you take star citizen that even if graphics and animation are way better to do the same type of gameplay you need the same type of tech. Thats also why star citizen was thinking they could make the game for 65 millions but after 8 years of devellopement and almost 1/3 of a billion they are still in alpha and they still need to devellop some core tech to make that idea of all those game mechanics work togheter and that why they will still need more money and time to finish it or try to finish it. Identity RPG the game that wqs supposed to be GTA online on steroids with much more mechanics and immersions well a team of 5 ppls in their basement and 1 million dollar they tought they would be able to beat a studio who have at least 1000 employee and an aproximation of 250 million buck for a game. Doing that is just impossible.
@mooppymcd4 жыл бұрын
Any one want to play hellion later today?
@fridaycaliforniaa2362 жыл бұрын
I just came to discover this game when browsing through a torrent website. Looks amazing on the paper. But now I'm not sure I'll give it a chance...
@LeadsTheFallen4 жыл бұрын
Steam should be removed from steam
@xraymike664 жыл бұрын
It was a fun little project to play as an alpha, but nowhere even close to a release state.
@Mark_nobody34 жыл бұрын
If they cannot handle the funds then why not hire an accountant to set a budget for them or get minimum term investors to help
@A5tr01014 жыл бұрын
Lowering price on the basis of a product not being finished its awful imo, would you buy a burger without the beef? Is this not a violation of consumer law?
@Funkiyy4 жыл бұрын
Yes it needs to be removed from Steam
@ElwoodShort4 жыл бұрын
That is fraud. you can't take money to make something...not make it and keep the money. If the money ran out, well, that's the risk of backing a game in early access. But if there is money being funnelled out, nah, that's fraud.
@truelegacygames84044 жыл бұрын
Feature creep is real, it destroys alot of projects and using early access has really shown that over the years. It comes with practice but sticking to a development plan and THEN iterating from there is best course of action, especially when money is on the line, and said money is from interested and invested users....Its not always the case but, these are signs that prototyping was either lackluster or nonexistent. There is nothing wrong with trying to make big games, RPGS space sims etc but as a indie dev it should be 1/3 of skyrim/fallout/"insert fav RPG" cause even then the workloads is very heavy. indie devs we gotta do better.
@PhriekshoTV3 жыл бұрын
Hellion looks polished, but that's about it. If you're looking for a good space exploration/survival game, I recommend Empyrion
@wastelandman1984 жыл бұрын
Can anyone say Digital Homicide? AKA Digital Suicide.
@aswb43384 жыл бұрын
why dont the re label hellion as a ghost / exploration game there is stil that Fiona and her ship the player can be part of the resque team . find out what happend find and fix the ship and then jump back to earth (with survivors if there are any) sorry for my bad spelling
@A.Person.Who.Exists3 жыл бұрын
Make it open source so we can finish it.
@dougsbackpack1529 Жыл бұрын
i want my 60$ back.... if i can't even play this game was so fun