She is NOT articulate. She is also NOT soft spoken. She is very contentious

@@AkireMaru you must be like the mother ...hmmmmm

I 100% agree with you, amazing woman doing the best for herself ❤

She sees a difference in her that's why she bumps heads with her the most.

She is gorgeous

Oh how they “don’t understand” that

Wow, never saw it like that. Thank you for upgrading me

People don’t understand that. People use the word accountability as an attack and try to force people to be continuously in a negative light.

And admitting your mistakes

right -- all that i want you to hear is bull crap too - i want you to DO! be the adult and guidance that a child needs - how many generations came before and the children still starting from scratch?-- BULLSHIT

THATS GASLIGHTING AND MANIPULATIONS -THIS MOTHER IS A CLASSIC NARC! THEY NEED TO ALL GET DISTANCE FROM HER..

Yah my mom never remembered as I went through my career in dancing since 6 and still present day dancing.. calling me fat, disgusting, a pig, because I exercised so much and burned so many calories and would get hungrier then normal 🤣. Compare me to other girls and tell me I needed to look like them or be like them. Call me stupid, an idiot. Oh boy narcissist mothers.

At all 😂

Or fathers

Or fathers 😒

But mom's sex life is none of her business, besides that how she got here.

How is she breaking the generation curse, she has children out of wedlock, probably more than one dad.

@@sharonfranks4031 So you don't think as a child you'll be affected by having to see every sexual partner your mom has and then a different one on top of that?

@@bigdawg9826 as a child who controls mama? As a child what do you know about mama's issues really? but she still raised you to be strong, voice your opinions and puck you up if you don't have the mind to get the hell on out mama's house and leave mama's crazy azz alone so her sanity can come back you get what you get. But she loves ❤️ 😍 you and got your back

@@sharonfranks4031 yes it is when you growing up with men coming and out the house, especially with daughters in the house

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That daughter isn't healed. If she were that healed, she wouldn't have humiliated her mother on national TV by calling her promiscuous and telling the world she had 40 boyfriends! True love covers.

It’s because she knows she’s in a path to become a better women then she ever was she jealous of her own child trust me ik!

@@SuperShepard1 she’s healed enough she could’ve said much worse !

@@SuperShepard1 By the words of someone who clearly hasn't face trauma and what its like to recover from abuse and have been given everything in life with a gold medal.

Yuppp!! Thats how my mom was with me.

A strategy to make chaos and deflect from the crisis at hand 🖐️

The sad part is some mothers like her notice that characteristic and try to take their child's voice away starting at a very early age to feel more alpha especially if their parenting skills are being questioned by their own kid they see it as a challenge to defend their title and territory over them as a mother.

That's true. That's what manipulative people do

Narcissists always try to shut off the truth tellers

Facts.

FACTS

Very true 😢

facts

Nahhh my middle sibling was the Golden child

DANM, you worded and expressed exactly what I was thinking but I didn’t know how to put it into words 😅😂

right on the money

Umm y’all ain’t grow up in a real black house hold😂 them whoopings come wit discipline and an understanding also with respect

@@jaygotgame8632 facts

@@jaygotgame8632 being black has nothing to do with it, abuse is abuse, no "respect" or "love" behind it

No Abuse is Abuse.

@@jaygotgame8632 this is the narrative that must stop in black households. We took the whip from massa and unleashed it in the home, on children, and try to call assult “love”. Misquote Bible verses to justify what would be a charge in the real world. And do that to children. It's abuse. Call a thing a thing. Beat the community into submission and no we have now leadership.

The middle daughter really is almost model like

What does her looks have to do with ANY of this? You people focus on the wrong things, the point was sorely missed here.

@@4dyamondx745 OK

@@4dyamondx745 what you gotta do with this conversation? girl shut up we can say somebody pretty fool..

@@4dyamondx745 exactly! Beauty did not stop her abuser!

Icelynn will be the one to be done with the Mom.

Jealous???

​@@SoleahWright 🤷🏿‍♀️

I agree. The fact that she can articulately identify the mom’s issues, and then request accountability probably makes the mom feel judged, and deficient. Maybe in her daughter, she sees the emotional intelligence that she wishes she could have had at her age, but rather than celebrating and being proud of her daughter, she pushes back against anything that she says. I applaud the daughter for recognizing her triggers, and for choosing to protect her peace, rather than engaging her mom.

And, she did it with all respect. As she said I have to love my mom from a distance. Iceland’s boundaries are set! I love a healthy minded person.

JEALOUSY? Of what?

We all stand out and none of us is like are mother thank you but you don’t know no us personally. We are all well off on life. Thax

I was able to see this! God will forever get the Glory out of all of my trials and tribulations!! I appreciate this more then you know!

@@amabarrbrown3585 Sending Hug's ✨🙏🏿

Icelynn got issues. The mom was a child when she had them. She is not perfect. And has work to do.

TOO, ICELYNN pretty much did the same thing as her mom, children out of wedlock, more than one daddy.

Who do you see glorifying this? Y'all say anything.

There’s definitely a general consensus among many Black people about this. On here the audience will even clap at times hearing about abuse but they consider it “discipline”. How do you not know this when it’s very common?

​@JollyMolly Ramram What's sad is that many in that same audience would cringe if the children weren't black. I've noticed how the media spins the narrative dependent up on the race of the family. I know that doesn't apply here, but we as a community need to wise up.

Ironically the so called traumatized whoooings. The most disrespectful child did not get. Y’all killing me with whooopings are traumatizing

@Nurse_ Shelley - You’re right about that.

Intelligent and well-spoken too!

And intelligent too😊

Yes indeed she is. 😍

The way I see it is that you can't give what you don't have !

​​​@@laawaer7265 So if she knew she couldn't give them proper love and respect, then why keep having more children?

@@laawaer7265 yeah I feel like parents like that deserve to be left to fend for themselves and to never waste time on them. They will never change. Hurt people hurt people, but don’t nobody care at this point.

Especially the youngest one

@@jyadidtnova1051 cus they don't care , they don't see they're in the wrong with how they behave . it could be the mom is a product of her environment

When I was young my dad whip us with 3switches and with our clothes off because that's what we needed but it's 5 of us 3 girls and 2 boys we never went to jail and was not disrespectful he didn't have to do all the time when I got older I told him thanks for the whipping he made me the person I am and I love my dad and mom . So girls get over it .

​@@cassandraduncan-tx5xiwhat college did you go to? How long have you been married? What career do you have? We should want our kids to do more than just turn out ok, we should want them to be better than us and thrive, not just survive

@@cassandraduncan-tx5xi My brother and I also got spanked when we were growing up and I can definitely say we turned out great and both of us are very respectful law abiding citizens. Now of course it wasn’t whippings all of the time as they would still talk to us and give us warnings as well so there was always a balance. Now I don’t want people to get the wrong idea and think whippings and abuse are the same thing because they aren’t. There is nothing wrong with discipline as long as you aren’t name calling, punching, or kicking.

@@cassandraduncan-tx5xi I remember seeing my aunt beat the hell out of kids with a cord and rip the earring out of her ear. Some parents have a balance view of discipline then there's some take it a whole another level. There are some parents kick, spit, rip hair and bite to get their point across.

​@@cassandraduncan-tx5xiYou're a victim and gaslighting yourself.

I always tell my mom that I will respect my little kids because how will they learn respect if not.

It really is.

They’d rather die first than do that.

@@antonivi8968 facts

You mean the youngest daughter?!

@@Marieeee125no she meant the first daughter to come out on stage.

@@mekhiachandler1927 oh ok, thank you!!!

The first daughter that came out is the youngest one

well if your sister is living the same life that girl is living i totally get it. That girl is angry. If we are to believe her sisters that mother is terribly abusive. Everyone reacts to abuse differently and this girl who has grown up being abused and watching her sisters be hurt too is clearly furious. We all want abuse victims to be weak and meek but the truth is a lot of abuse victims end up like that girl. Tbh that mother deserves it. Yeah she's impulsive but you can tell if she gets away from the situation she could learn to heal. If you notice she doesn't come at her sisters in that way..... just the person who hurt her and her sisters

So true I’m a middle child and I can attest to that.

I agree

Literally! I don’t understand the black community, they want respect and manners, without showin what it looks like… then get mad and want to beat they child Bc the child doesn’t know

Your right

@@takeishawhite4964 ♥ 🙏

Literally ‼️ Right on point. And then they be surprised when the child fights back.

I understand. But I get where she BBC ok’ing from if I just told u what I was doing why u hitting me up then telling me u gonna put ur car out as stolen it’s extra af and bad as a parent. Like this aged black parents and grandparents wanna control everything the child does. So she probably felt mom making up another excuse she need the car just so I can’t go nowhere

@@Caramel1109 it does not matter what the mom reasons were, IT WAS THE MOM CAR, that is what's wrong with you people?

@@4dyamondx745 it matters when they obviously made it clear she can use it her mom is power hungry bitch just like mine who fake sick just to make u not have any fun idk why it’s so hard for y’all to believe being a parent doesn’t give u the right to dismiss and be an asshole to ur children and they feeling. My mom literally does the same shot we agree I can use the car if I put gas in it but when she wanna be petty she’ll pull sick shot or just some dumb shit. Sorry I can’t understand that parents can be wrong at too

@@4dyamondx745it’s about respect 🤷🏽‍♂️ and how you say things. As you can see the mother don’t want to own up to what she did to them. Trauma cause you to act a certain way

@@4dyamondx745 That’s her car, but the daughter said that they usually use the car whenever they need it. That day the mom went off the rails so the daughter was like “wtf?” And respect goes both ways. You can tell the mother hasn’t respected her children a day in their lives.

The second sister said her past but didn’t keep saying it she actually did stuff to help her

@Miss J I see it too

Yup. Well he's gay, he's going through a lot as a beautiful gay black man

Yup. Well he's gay, he's going through a lot as a beautiful gay black man

Ughh me and my mom have our ups and downs a lot, she hates how I always have this attitude towards her when in reality I just can't stand the things she does, the things that she says when she is mad, and how she doesn't want to acknowledge people's feelings. I'm in my damn 20's and still struggles to communicate thoroughly and say the right pronunciations all because of how I was treated growing up, being put into tough situations that no child needs to go through with sick adults, missed out on a lot of fun childhoods just to make sure that my little siblings and the household is well taken care off. It's a lot to unpack but I just want to leave it all behind it's exhausting and I want to leave it all behind and not to look back.

Therapy is the only way to truly heal from that trauma

As a parent idc wat u DID but I’m not gonna put my BLACK CHILD in a life or death situation by calling cops on them. Plain and simple

@@Caramel1109 and she isn’t you. 🤷🏽‍♀️

@@Caramel1109so I see you’re the type that would let your kids run all over you. Last time I checked if your kids are grown ass adults they should be able to face real life consequences.

@@Caramel1109 FACTS!

@@Caramel1109 And that's why black teens do not respect their parents, grandparents, their elders, or the church today. Because of parents like you! You coddle your teens, and allow them to disrespect you and get away with all that they do. That young girl was way too disrespectful to her mother on stage. Generation Alpha and Generation Z ARE THE WORST Generations out of all 7 of them. I wonder which generation you're from. You're probably from Generation Millennial, because we all know the people who were born within the first 4 Generations have always shown respect to their parents, grandparents, and elders. SMDH!

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Factz

Yes, ma'am!

fr. I'm sorry but I did not like her energy at all, or towards her mom.

Yea her attitude is a no go, she should e been addressed! No need to disrespect your mom like that on tv especially when she was in the wrong.. that was her moms car

But it is what it is , the youngest is usually the craziest and most angry

Wasn’t their mom like super shity to like-all of them in different ways. Like what are y’all expecting. Do you treat everyone close to you(family or not) like crap their whole life because you feel entitled to and still expect them to be good to you after!?!?🤦🏾‍♀️

@@_Sororita there's a level of respect you have for your elders especially your mom. You can get your point across as the "child" without the hostility or just walk away. There should never be a point where you want to fight your parents. Trust me on this. I've been through a lot growing up and I have 10 kids all with different feelings and or attitudes and not one has ever approached me like they lost their mind.

She need to be on somebody's runway modeling

@@BOSSLADY-cu8vs nal she needs her a s s beat for disrespecting her mom like that!

@@BOSSLADY-cu8vs the youngest? Absolutely not lol Icelynn though,I agree!

Right!

Meeeeeeeeeeeeee but whoopings is sooooooo traumatizing and abusive. This gentle parenting style getting on my nerves.

That young one needed a whipping! Being a parent is hard and finding the balance is hard. Lack of discipline is what has caused our youth to be so disrespectful! Now with whippings I believe you also have to provide positive feedback and guidance in order to balance the discipline.

@@msamariabmaking massa proud. getting so angry you have to put your hands on someone is beyond me.

​@@sleepy.thehumanYou don't have to be angry to administer corporal punishment.

"My parents beat me as a child and I am not traumatized," said the man whose ex-partner reported him for physical violence. "When I was a child they left me crying alone until I fell asleep and it was so bad I did not go out," said the man who spends long hours in social networks, affecting his sleep. "They punished me as a child and I'm fine," said the man who, every time he makes a mistake, says to himself words of contempt, as a form of self-punishment. "As a child, they put a heavy hand on me and I suffer from a trauma called 'education'," said the woman who still does not understand why all of her partners end up being aggressive. "When I became capricious as a child, my father locked me in a room alone to learn and today I appreciate it," said the woman who has suffered anxiety attacks and can not explain why she is so afraid of being locked in small spaces . "My parents told me they were going to leave me alone or give me to a stranger when I did my tantrums and I do not have traumas," said the woman who has prayed for love and has forgiven repeated infidelities so as not to feel abandoned "My parents controlled me with just the look and see how well I came out," said the woman who can not maintain eye contact with figures of 'authority' without feeling intimidated. "As a child, I got even with the iron cable and today I am a good man, even professional," said the man his neighbors have accused the police for drunk hitting objects and yelling at his wife. "My parents forced me to study a career that would make me money, and see how well off I am," said the man who dreams of Friday every day because he is desperate in his work doing something every day that is not what he always wanted. "When I was little they forced me to sit down until all the food was finished and they even force fed me, not like those permissive parents" affirmed the woman who does not understand why she could not have a healthy relationship with food and in her adolescence came to develop an eating disorder. "My mother taught me to respect her good chancletazos to the point," said the woman who smokes 5 cigarettes a day to control her anxiety. "I thank my mom and my dad for every blow and every punishment, because, if not, who knows what would happen to me," said the man who has never been able to have a healthy relationship, and whose son constantly lies to him because he has fear. And so we go through life, listening to people claiming to be good people without trauma, but paradoxically, in a society full of violence and wounded people.

And the older two are traumatized from their whoppings. As parents, we can't just win. Smh

@@chandralafayewalker-smith6104There is a balance. If your child is being reasonable, you don’t beat that out of them. When your child is being unreasonable, use every tool on God’s green earth to make sure you’re not ‘sparing the rod and spoiling the child.’ If your child is engaging in behaviour that will get them arrested, then you beat them to deter them getting in trouble with the law. That’s reasonable. If your child has taken the family car with a perfectly reasonable explanation for why she thought it would be okay (such as you were camped in bed, late at night, watching a movie with your fiancé, and looked like you had no intention of moving/using the car - all of which the mother affirmed) then it would be wrong to punish the child. Instead, to deal with your irritation instruct your adult child to bring that vehicle home as soon as they can manage, and once home calmly explain that ‘it causes me to resent you when you use the car for anything other than work. I need that vehicle to last, and you running off with it won’t make my vehicle last, especially when it’s night time and your chances of getting into an accident-we-can’t-afford increase.’ Once that boundary is set and your child knows it exists, it is reasonable to get angry should your kid decide to violate it.

Very rude

She should be, her mom was terrible TO ALL OF THEM!!!

She’s just like her mom, actually.

Sure would. Then she brags about never being disciplined. Girl we can tell. 🥴🥴

Exactly, parents are human That means they need to take accountability as well, thats not an extreme expectation, asking an adult to acknowledge the pain of and apologize to their kids.

They might be human but the day you sign up to be a parent you should at least try to do your best for your kids. Don’t expect sympathy when you signed up to do this job, they never asked to be here.

@@sicilysscenarios365 so because I am a parent I don’t deserve sympathy and understanding? Who said she didn’t try when she clearly allowed her grown child to live there, spoils her, allowed her to drive her car, takes the abuse she spews and still reached out for help. No one is perfect and there is no blueprint to being a parent. So children can forgive a horrible cheating ass man, ain’t shit as friend, Pervy boss, or trick in the street- but they can’t forgive their momma. Na that don’t make sense to me.

@@material-cheshirekhatter2413 did you mean to reply to someone else. I never said anything about a parent shouldn’t listen and take accountability. I actually heard the mother do that. But you can clearly see that there is a severe fracture in the way they communicate. It can not all just been attacking and pointing the finger! Her daughters didn’t come on there to take accountability also, they came to point out what she did wrong as a mother. How can you expect anyone to give you a heartfelt apology and listen when you are disrespectful. It won’t work. Not a parent, boss, or a bum in the street. Communication is not just stating your opinion it also includes active listening, mindfulness and open minded people who are looking to resolve issues. Look I held so much resentment towards my dad for not being there. I used to watch him on tv and at high powered events protecting some of the most famous ppl in the world. I used to think how can he care about them but not me his daughter. It took for me to go through life, F up a few times and need forgiveness from others, and have a child myself before I could forgive him. I realized that I had to meet him where he was and accept it or walk away. I wanted this box office movie apology and I wanted him to change everything I didn’t like. But that is not possible. So once I let go of the hate and the need to be validated by him it was easy. Her daughters pain is real and their own. There is nothing the mom can do or say to alleviate that. Whenever it happens it will be because they decided to release it.

@@Itzyhani I said don’t expect and I’m referring to this situation in particular because the mother is obviously a narcissist that feeds off the fact she did the job she signed up for. I can’t believe you are defending this sorry ass excuse of a parent but hey you might be just as bad so let me me not speak

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Yes . Most of them were not ready for kids.

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I guess when your a child growing up in a toxic household where your own worst enemies is the world AND YOUR PARENTS you feel like you need to push your true self down and match their energy for a little while, just until you get out of it. Unfortunately by the Time you do, you don’t realize you might’ve been infected by the bad environment.

WHOMEVER

The parents always also go after the kid that forced them to realize the messed up traits about themselves. I was the scapegoat so ik first hand how it goes.

True❤

He’s adorable ❤

What’s the worst, is Big sis came out and immediately got ignored and accepted it. Didn’t even get to finish her story. But the way these women are, reminds me of my relationship with my sisters and mother. My oldest sis was the second mom to an overwhelmed adult who was suppose to raise her too, she learned how to not piss my mother off and help out and had to grow up way too fast. She’s also the most distant from my mom, from having to go through the most AND first. My middle sister is def the black sheep, and since 18-21 I started to understand some of her anger and isolation/feeling isolated. My middle sister always alleged that my mom and her had issues, with the men she’d feel like she chose over her, in one instance my mom named a specific marriage, that she feels like my middle sister ruined. My middle sister looks at my big sister as more of a motherly figure, learned and still in my opinion tries to mimic my big sisters life (my big sis moved away as soon as she could, started businesses and is super successful with very limited time around my mother, also still my mother’s favorite). And my middle and big sis had a love hate relationship for a long while, because our big sister/mom confused what our dynamics were supposed to be, in my middle sister’s mind. Then there is me, the youngest. Most violate, outspoken, spoiled by sisters who love me and wanted to protect me from my mother, teach me, and guide me. Sympathetic to how hard I’ve come to understand my sisters have been treated/what they had to go through (and not even all the time, early twenties recent). I had basically picked a side as well, obvi my sisters, and any neglect or emotional damage or trauma I experienced from my mother was personal in a real way to me, and my responses were two fold, because I saw both ways she handled being a mother, and felt like I’d refuse being my sisters and taking her mess, the way that they did. And I was spoiled by my mother because I am the “baby”, and was my mothers final chance at getting sh*t “right” with her kids. Old habits do die hard😂 But it’s just interesting because I always compare mother and 3 daughter specific dynamics, and it usually always stacks up like this. My bad I originally wanted to give the oldest sister her flowers, because literally no one noticed that with her on stage. But here we are 😅

And judging from the comments I hope none of these ingrates have kids, they think it's ok if a mother isn't perfect they can disrespect her. I don't like her nasty @ss

I said the same thing

Yeah her mom should've fcuked her up when she was kicking her down😂😂....

It’s like the youngest is so disrespectful to the point the mother is scared of her. Cus I would’ve beennnnnn put my foot up her a s s

She’s a product of her mother so why should she be blamed for the bad parenting of her mother? What she needs is healing and some compassion. Y’all always want to blame the kids for their behavior while glancing over the parents and the environment that created them.

Yes they're just recycling toxic and negative behavior in a circle.

No. Ice Lynn nor the oldest were disrespectful

​@@shortyduwhop319 peridot

I’m sorry you endured that and I pray that you have found peace and healing

Damn, I felt that.

So you wouldn’t express your feeling even if your mama treated you the way this mother treated her children? By not taking accountability, & verbally and physically assaulting you?

@@00Caleb00I’ll never disrespect my mother period! I’ll leave before it ever get to this point. Idk what kind of mothers y’all be having but I’m so happy I never had to deal with it

@@Toriab thank you, you can tell that some of these people are hanging around white children too long, b/c the majority of them talk to their parents horrible, which is why we have so many schools shootings b/c the parents did not allow the child to be disciplined.

Baby some of these mothers will shock you. My mama tried to fight me on my birthday IN FRONT OF MY KIDS. She got disrespected to high hell and called the police on her. Be thankful you don’t have a mother as DISRESPECTFUL as others smh

@@essiekaayy8755 I hate that you had to go through that especially in front of your kids.