Well played

Moa money, moa problems

Inb4: WAHHHHH STUPID PRIMITIVE HUMANS!!!!!!!?!!!!

Took too long to get it🤣

uuuugh

Same here, same here...

I mean the primitive humans had no idea what they were doing when they killed them. It’s not their fault they killed something that they may have thought was plentiful; not to mention, they had no idea how small or big their island was when they were on it. Obviously the Moa population was pretty small and secluded. They didn’t stand much of a chance from accelerant species like us humans. It’s sad and disappointing I know, but that was sadly nature back then :(

@@HenrythePaleoGuy couldn't they clone one

@@yeahokbuddy2510 "but that was sadly nature back then" - we're still forcing species into extinction at a faster and faster rate

@@yeahokbuddy2510 Btw, people back then weren't any more dumb than us. They probably killed the birds off by taking their territories and hunting them for trophies. At some point the birds probably were rare delicacies, which only made things worse.

MagneticSharks true that

4 sho!!!

+Devin Stromgren I mean they even kinda look like certain species of sauropods. Especially at 6:14

Or maybe -- when birds were still sauropods.

They do have more neck vertebrae then theropods

Bird Rex

true

I've seen a pink lawn moa 😁

I’m laughing way too hard

🤢🤮 😉🤣

hmm, there is so many, I just can't choose one. Heracles Inexpectatus is extremely cool, but modern parrots like Kea and Kakapo are also cool. Then there are the purple chickens [Pukahoe] who are so bold you can't help but like em. Haast's Eagle would have been an awesome sight. The Crossvallia waiparensis [human sized Penguin] would also be cool to see.

Kiwi should be your favorite now since we can actually conserve and save them!

#1-Moa #2-Kakapo #3-Kiwi

I love birbs too

They were quite a diverse group, so it's great that more people are starting to learn about this. :)

And Madagascar was Skull Island.

Can you imagine what it must have felt seeing these for the first time?

Thank you for using the proper contraction of must have; too many people now a days would have misspelled it as must of.

@@Riceball01 they piss me off too.

@@miquelescribanoivars5049 And Australia was literally hell.

Thank you!

KFC mate that's where it would've ended up anyway, all humans no matter where you come from are greedy this bird stood no chance against man or ever other animal species for examples.

​@@hortonwilson9279 bro do you see a kiwi in kfc 😂

I hope you enjoyed!

Same here! It's unbelievable how much has been lost over time.

Birdfoot is real!

They could be at this point.

They remind me of mammoth.

actually they are the new larger ostrich (LARGEST BIRD)

XD

That would be very good! You can send them to me through my email if you want, as that's definitely a video I want to make in the future.

can't wait for that video. thanks to both of you!

Nah I'd rather not be dead before age 40.

@@roan2288 that's my dream

@@roan2288 lol

We can clone them, scientists just refuse to

kfc would be seeing dollar signs lol

Am I late?

There is one more moa is still alive

@@PlsHit200subs Where?

where can I buy that book? On 38:30

Moas are being brought back to life from extinction with 🧬 DNA

It's cooler in a way, because we know for a fact that humans encountered these birds.

If we clone them they wont be the same there will be brutal changes like they eat plants so if we clone them they will eat us and become very aggressive just like every other animal we try cloneing we cloned a monkey that eats trees and after the cloneing it becomes very aggressive and eat meat no longer plants

Don't worry, the meat industry will soon contemplate the marketability of a buffalo chicken leg the size of a table and grants will be forthcoming 😂

@@tieck4408 that does sound very succulent hahaha🤣

@@dillyDillzmuaythai4life *Source?*

@@dillyDillzmuaythai4life moa’s didn’t eat people

well since we have a bunch of soft tissue of them and I believe some of them have intact dna so maybe. The problem is their size, its closet relatives are small and still genetically distincter than a mammoth is to an elephant.

Even a Kiwi egg might be big enough to house a Moa embryo. Eggs can't get too big or the baby suffocates, hence why even sauropod eggs only grew to the size of ostrich eggs. The largest bird egg on record is the Elephant bird and it's the absolute biggest an egg can get. So a Moa can be placed in a kiwi egg and allowed to catch that way.

I Was a Teenage TeenWolf or you could create an artificial egg

@@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf legit didnt know that! Thats interesting stuff.

Comunist bandits

I'm glad you enjoy them. :)

My Mom I saw that comment i that was funny

The man is on a grind tho

Indeed! Trying to do as much as I can so I can continue to grow. :)

Which video was that on? Been such a long time. :) And thank you, I'm glad that you think that way about my channel!

Henry the PaleoGuy it was a video where i had commented that there aren’t many channels like Ben G Thomas that have an engaging tone, unique style and a thought provoking show and that comment has aged like milk.

Thank you! I always try to improve with every video. And yes, it was a lot of work, but I'm sure it was all worth it! I hope to keep growing in the future!

@@HenrythePaleoGuy Yeah man this video is amazing :)

Emu and Cassowary also make similar calls as well, and in person, can really make you feel uncomfortable. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNuDia9-rbvPpoU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtGXasJnzse0lI2b.htmlttps://kzfaq.info/get/bejne/asqThLJnv8icdZs.html

@@HenrythePaleoGuy wow that is low

They sound like that instument I can't spell used by the aboriginal peoples. It would be interesting if the moa was inspiration for the instrument.

Yeah, I was honestly surprised at how disturbing that call was.

@@WintrBorn Didgeridoo? Dij for short. Nah, that's Oz, not NZ.

They maoris only came here around 800 years ago or so I think, NZ was one of the last inhabited places

They'd probably just go extinct again if New Zealand doesn't get rid of or control introduced populations of invasive predators and herbivores; or at least place the birds in truly secure and heavily monitored (for vagrant predators and poachers) sanctuaries.

@@melissagrant1649 we do do that, we have entire bird sanctuaries that are predator free. We've still got a ways to go to eradicate pests throughout the country as a whole, but it's certainly not for lack of effort.

I can do one at some point. :)

@@HenrythePaleoGuy would be great, keep it up!

The photo of that foot is in the video

These Moa noises would be really close to the original sounds as well. I've been told that the Maori still pass down stories about these birds from those days, including the sounds they made. Which is very valuable information for scientists.

Such a shame these animals were lost before they were at least documented.

Thank you! I'll be sure to post the sources in the description when I have the time.

I agree.

Such a tragedy.

aww yeee

How does it feel that your airforces symbol is a kiwi?

@@michaelcho3564 what air force?

@@michaelcho3564 its just our way of flexing our military ability, when you see a flightless bird in the sky........you run

@@HavenBriar makes sense

Glad you found it! My channel seems to have a knack to bringing in people from across the internet. XD

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Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy!

Thank you! I really wanted to make the best video I could on these remarkable animals. :)

Thank you! I'm glad you learned a great deal about these remarkable birds!

Surprise!

Not lost - just all eaten

Thank you!

As the moa became extinct centuries ago, I was wondering where did they get that preserved body from. There was incidentally a flightless bird even larger than the moa, and extinct. That was the elephant bird of Madagascar.

Imagine when Antarctica was still green imagine the large penguins or birds in there

I read that in Antarctica skeletons of penguins 3 metres high were found. I was scrolling back now to see if I hadn't already mentioned that.

@@GoodVideos4 There is a possibility that because earth is warming today maybe the animals would become large in the near future

The Genie:Dayyum, that's way too god to count, you still have 3 left!

Bring the Haast's Eagle back too

Thank you! I always try to outdo the competition. :)

I'm glad you learned something new about this group of birds. My speech is generally slower due to coming from the UK, and and so that is definitely a part of it.

Indeed! It's great to give more attention to this remarkable group when so little videos exist on the topic.

It was at my local library, which was really great in making this video. And thank you for watching, I'm glad you got something out of it.

i can see it

@hayven angoromanana Rhea's are much smaller than Kevin, and not endangered. But then again this was a movie with talking dogs so I suppose anything is possible.

Thank you!

Thank you!

Good on you! I'm glad you could make such great finds, and give back to the rest of the world.

I'm pretty sure that no sailors passed through areas around New Zealand during the 1200s or 1300s ^^

Wonder if they lamented the extinction of the Haast Eagle that was killed off at the same time as the moa?

I wouldn't know. You can try asking them.

If there are any Maori reading this - Was that so?

The fact that Maori people didn't rely solely on Moa's for their substinence is probably the main reason why they overhunted them in the first place. This is beacuse the Maori weren't solely hunters and gatherers, they could fall back up on their imported crops as well as domesticated chickens and kiore rats. However this didn't stop the Maori from harvesting Moa's any less often, in fact it increased their impact upon them because: 1) They could mantain a larger population than strict hunter gatherer societies 2) Could overharvest natural resources without any aparent impact (at least at first). A recent paper comes to a similar conclussion regarding the extinction of megafauna in Madagascar, there early hunter gathers seem to have coexisted with the existing Megafauna in balance, but once cattle, agriculture and trade arrived to the island, the human population increased dramatically and the megafauna was quickly overharvested resulting in their extinction. theconversation.com/last-of-the-giants-what-killed-off-madagascars-megafauna-a-thousand-years-ago-112672

There is a Maori story of a pet moa that was stolen by a rival tribe at some point in time, so, while that may have been possible, but only for the smaller species, they would have been far too slow at breeding to be reliable.

@@HenrythePaleoGuy Its been suggested that slow breeding and growth was also the reason why the possible domestic breeding of Myotragus failed.

@@soko4710 Oh, I didn't know. I assumed they did because other Polynesian groups had them. Well you gotta learn something new every day.

Moa only laid one or two eggs. Most people wouldn't have the patience to wait 8 years for a pair to mature for one or two eggs per year. Chickens mature in one year and can incubate a dozen eggs in a clutch.

They didn't understand resource management, so they just hunted indiscriminately.

@@martinharris5017 Yet if we believe the so called "noble savage" idea, all tribal peoples were environmentally friendly.

@@anonb4632 Well, isn't a shame when a lovely idea is molested by a brutal gang of facts?

But seriously.. what kind of study or facts do you quote from bro

@@randocalrissian7573 "..., a new genetic study of moa fossils points to humankind as the sole perpetrator of the birds’ extinction. The study adds to an ongoing debate about whether past peoples lived and hunted animals in a sustainable manner or were largely to blame for the extermination of numerous species. “The paper presents a very convincing case of extinction due to humans,” says Carles Lalueza-Fox, an evolutionary biologist at the Institute of Evolutionary Biology in Barcelona, Spain, who was not involved in the research. “It’s not because of a long, natural decline.” Scientists have long argued about what caused the extinction of many species of megafauna-giant animals including mammoths, mastodons, and moas-beginning between 9000 and 13,000 years ago, when humans began to spread around the world. Often, the animals disappeared shortly after humans arrived in their habitats, leading some researchers to suggest that we exterminated them by overhunting. But other scientists have pointed to natural causes, including volcanic eruptions, disease, and climate change at the end of last Ice Age, as the key reasons for these species’ demise. The moas present a particularly interesting case, researchers say, because they were the last of the giant species to vanish, and they did so recently, when a changing climate was no longer a factor. But did other natural causes set them on a path to oblivion, as some scientists proposed in a recent paper? Morten Allentoft, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Copenhagen, doubted this hypothesis. Archaeologists know that the Polynesians who first settled New Zealand ate moas of all ages, as well as the birds’ eggs. With moa species ranging in size from 12 to 250 kilograms, the birds-which had never seen a terrestrial mammal before people arrived-offered sizable meals. “You see heaps and heaps of the birds’ bones in archaeological sites,” Allentoft says. “If you hunt animals at all their life stages, they will never have a chance.” Using ancient DNA from 281 individual moas from four different species, including Dinornis robustus (at 2 meters, the tallest moa, able to reach foliage 3.6 meters above the ground), and radiocarbon dating, Allentoft and his colleagues set out to determine the moas’ genetic and population history over the last 4000 years. The moa bones were collected from five fossil sites on New Zealand’s South Island, and ranged in age from 12,966 to 602 years old. The researchers analyzed mitochondrial and nuclear DNA from the bones and used it to examine the genetic diversity of the four species. Usually, extinction events can be seen in a species’ genetic history; as the animals’ numbers dwindle, they lose their genetic diversity. But the team’s analysis failed to find any sign that the moas’ populations were on the verge of collapse. In fact, the scientists report that the opposite was true: The birds’ numbers were stable during the 4000 years prior to their extinction, they report online today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Populations of D. robustus even appear to have been slowly increasing when the Polynesians arrived. No more than 200 years later, the birds had vanished. “There is no trace of” their pending extinction in their genes, Allentoft says. “The moa are there, and then they are gone.” The paper presents an “impressive amount of evidence” that humans alone drove the moa extinct, says Trevor Worthy, an evolutionary biologist and moa expert at Flinders University in Adelaide, Australia, who was not involved with the research. “The inescapable conclusion is these birds were not senescent, not in the old age of their lineage and about to exit from the world. Rather they were robust, healthy populations when humans encountered and terminated them.” Still, he doubts even Allentoft’s team’s “robust data set” will settle the debate about the role people played in the birds’ extinction, simply because “some have a belief that humans would not have” done such a thing. As for Allentoft, he is not surprised that the Polynesian settlers killed off the moas; any other group of humans would have done the same, he suspects. “We like to think of indigenous people as living in harmony with nature,” he says. “But this is rarely the case. Humans everywhere will take what they need to survive. That’s how it works.” www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/03/why-did-new-zealands-moas-go-extinct There are plenty of studies and research papers I can reference if you want further information Lando. ps Love the name "Rando Calrissian". I can sense a Star Wars themed adult movie role in your future:)

I most definitely will in the future!

I'm glad you enjoyed!