Hercules C-130 vs Airbus A400M Which one Better ?

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Just compare it and leave a comment below C-130 or A400M ! Here is some highlights from last summer Farnborough 2018 Airshow. Lockheed Martin's C-130 team stormed into the Air Show in England with their new LM-100J commercial variant of the iconic and super versatile Hercules. The LM-100J display, flown by veteran Lockheed test pilot Wayne Robers, stole the entire show. During the routine, Roberts pulled off quite the spectacle, looping the airlifter right in front of the crowd
Both aircraft seem to have the same purpose and are both capable of takeoff and landing at short runways.Tactical airlifters are more likely to make shorter, lower-altitude journeys of the sort where turboprops are more efficient.
They are more likely to operate between smaller airfields where FOD may be more of an issue.
The A400M is the most advanced, proven and certified airlifter available, combining 21st century state-of-the-art technologies to fulfill the current and upcoming Armed Forces’ needs. The A400M combines the capability to carry strategic loads with the ability to deliver even into tactical locations with small and unprepared airstrips. And in addition it acts as a frontline-tanker for other aircraft. One aircraft, which can do the work of three
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@toddcooper2563 2 жыл бұрын

Being a Marine Corps veteran, I have flown on many C-130's, to include a Coast Guard version. That beautiful bird has been around a long time and for good reason! But Airbus makes very reliable aircraft, as well. It's good to have competition in order for the development of better aircraft. Good job to both manufacturers.

@johnbowles4754 2 жыл бұрын

But will the A400 series be around as long as the 130, only time will tell 🤔

@toddcooper2563 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnbowles4754 Lockheed has left some big shoes to fill for anyone if they want to catch up. But it looks pretty obvious that the A400 looks an awful lot like the Herc.

@johnbowles4754 2 жыл бұрын

@@toddcooper2563 imitation is often the best form of flattery.

@frankeinfish 2 жыл бұрын

@@toddcooper2563 There's not a lot of ways you can build a transport aircraft so it's more a case of convergent design than any imitation.

@LuisQ7492 2 жыл бұрын

@@toddcooper2563 that A400 looks more like the love child of a C-130 and a C-17.

@Phrancis5 5 жыл бұрын

I know it's been updated, but considering the overall 60-year-old design, the C-130 is pretty damn amazing!

@Nikos-bu3so 5 жыл бұрын

this is a C-130J Super Hercules ,is not c130

@waynemcfarlane1233 4 жыл бұрын

@@Nikos-bu3so it's still a C-130 family you have different types of C-130 the body layout is the same, the C-130J is more advanced more powerful engines and the avionics is digital

@morganlambley8655 4 жыл бұрын

Wayne Mcfarlane longer body too. Comes under “super Hercules” occasionally.

@ce7857 4 жыл бұрын

A row erupted at a recent Nato conference over the RAF's new £2.6billion A400M transporter planes as it has emerged engine problems mean just two of 20-strong fleet are able to fly at any one time. (News story from 10 July 2019.) Soooo, I choose the good old Herc.

@spreadeagled5654 4 жыл бұрын

Phrancis5 , It’s a 60 year old “flying truck” and it’s still “ticking!” 👍

@rmarty550 4 жыл бұрын

Both are incredible aircraft, obviously the newer Airbus has an advantage but the C130 was first flown in the 1950s. For a 66 year old design I’d say it holds its own pretty well.

@kurtclausen7823 3 жыл бұрын

Not everybody can maintain an Airbus...simplicity wins for me, lower main cost

@PpAirO5 2 жыл бұрын

I have seen a Hercules do short landing before. Really impressive, but that A400 😳 It was almost still right after touching the ground 😳 That's insane, waow !

@lknanml Жыл бұрын

Every time we flew in one over Iraq we would do combat landings. Spiral out of the sky to spend the least amount of time low outside "the wire". We once backed up for over 20 mins after landing. They just opened up the rear and beep beep beeped to their drop off point. It's NEVER dull when crews get bored. Middle of the night. Screw it. Lets change things up. Did the same route a few times. That was the only extended anti boredom maneuver I saw.

@ivandasty277 2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the ultra high level of experience and knowledge of the pilots in both cases.

@vdotme Жыл бұрын

Great nothing burger 😂😂😂😂

@bryanrussell6679 3 жыл бұрын

The refresh rate makes the propellers look so cool!

@TheBR911 2 жыл бұрын

Both of them are my favorite military airlift aircrafts. Their design is simple yet beautiful. My country recently bought Lockheed Martin C-130 J super Hercules (Indian Air Force).

@jhill4874 5 жыл бұрын

The A400M looks like the love child of a C-130 and a C-17.

@ikdaboss380 4 жыл бұрын

WTF are you saying man!

@Sprocket-js4nr 2 жыл бұрын

I'd definitely say the Airbus designers stole their design from the US.

@edinnorthcarolina--ovelhog5786 2 жыл бұрын

The A400 looks like an updated Belfast.

@jhill4874 2 жыл бұрын

@@edinnorthcarolina--ovelhog5786 Didn't know about the Short Belfast C1. Looks like an enlarged C-130. Interesting comparisons.

@georgebarnes8163 2 жыл бұрын

@@jhill4874 The RAF replaced their fleet of Belfasts with the much smaller C-130, a bad move since they had to hire the Belfasts back during the Falklands and Gulf war as the C-130 was not up to the job required, it cost the RAF more to hire back the aircraft than what they sold them for.

@alessandroandrea1951 5 жыл бұрын

Very difficult to compare. They are both awesome. Thank you for the clip. There is no better sound than those engines.

@mrbronco2 5 жыл бұрын

I've repaired and flown the C130 for over 14 years. It is an amazing aircraft. The fact is the A400 is almost the size of a C17 Globemaster and does what a C130 does. You can't even compare the two. A 400 all the way.

@iginiobluevest9259 5 жыл бұрын

1.2:1 larger size for C-17

@waynemcfarlane1233 4 жыл бұрын

Both the C130 and the A400 are excellent aircraft

@Chief-Solarize 4 жыл бұрын

Never been on an Airbus but many flights on c130 and c17. Love those guys. 38aps/315alw

@andreinarangel6227 4 жыл бұрын

Wrong comparison. Compare the A400M vs C17. The poor Grizzly ain't got a chance.

@taquila6894 4 жыл бұрын

When’s it’s serviceable - like which is never!

@MrStrat01 2 жыл бұрын

The A400M is twice the weight of a C-130 and lands on the same distance, impressive isn't it ? !!!

@mohammadasmr2714 Жыл бұрын

I nothing🧐🧐

@johncarl5505 Жыл бұрын

The C17 lands on the same distance, too! They all roughly take ten seconds from touchdown to full stop.

@attilaattila1656 Жыл бұрын

A400M is the Queen of the maintenance hangar. In a time of war you want a down and dirty work horse- that is the C130J. Continuously upgraded- RELIABLE WHEN YOU ABSOLUTLY NEED IT. there is no substitute for the C130J.

@MrStrat01 Жыл бұрын

@@attilaattila1656 🤣🤣

@vdotme Жыл бұрын

@@attilaattila1656 parts all over the world too.

@DJF1985 2 жыл бұрын

Nothing like a tactical landing in the middle of the night on a crappy dirt runway in a USMC KC-130. I think those pilots are incredible!!!

@pawpawstew 4 ай бұрын

Or in an Air Force C-130 on a rock runway in Northeast Afghanistan.

@Dharmanarchist 5 жыл бұрын

A C-130 cannot do a loop. C130 Pilot: Here, hold my beer.

@PaveLow1334 4 жыл бұрын

Fallschirmjaegermeister noone ever said that 😂

@PappyGunn 4 жыл бұрын

The C-130 cannot land on a carrier. CC130: Hold my beer.

@mrrolandlawrence 4 жыл бұрын

@@PappyGunn how about 475mph cruise speed? & 80,000 lbs cargo capacity?

@RichardShelton 4 жыл бұрын

@@mrrolandlawrence correct, but you're comparing a 60 year old design to a new one. At least try to be a little fair.

@dfhalonen190 2 жыл бұрын

I believe there is probably an old Herc pilot that would just as soon drink his beer while doing the loop.

@veritasfiles 5 жыл бұрын

I'd give it to the C-130 for longevity and soundness of the overall design, added to the fact that I think the differences between the two aircraft are relatively miniscule. Both aircraft are great designs and a credit to any force using them.

@topfelya 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment

@billyponsonby 2 жыл бұрын

I remember my Dad took me to an air show, probably RAF Fairford but could have been Greenham Common, when 25 C-130s from all different versions and nations were lined up. It was the 25th anniversary of that aircraft and in those days you could walk right up and touch and see everything.

@johnwood2223 4 жыл бұрын

I saw the A400 at ARAT, 2 years ago. Not in my life have I seen such brilliant display of a heavy cargo aircraft. The manouvability of this aircraft was off the scale and simply amazing. For me the highlight of the show. It's not often that you see such a massive leap forward in technology. That said the new Hurcules is impressive too, but I've not seen a live performance of it. I'd love to see a comparison of the relative specifications, but I don't think that would be in the public domain just yet.

@f4ephantom 4 жыл бұрын

The North Carolina Air Guard recently swapped their C-130s to C-17s. Performance wise it's a different ballgame, but I'm still a big fan of the Herky Bird. The C-17 is pretty sexy for a trash hauler though, and amazing it only uses 3 aircrew for the cargo missions.

@herc1305 5 жыл бұрын

The A400M is very impressive. I have thousands of hours on HC130H's and am kinda attache.

@CrazyMrTim 2 жыл бұрын

I worked the T56 and 2100D3 engines when i was in the Air Force, so i'm a little partial to the 130, also

@8aleph 5 жыл бұрын

I'll put it this way, The 130 entered service in the 1950's and nothing has yet replaced it but improved versions of it.

@waynestarnes5462 5 жыл бұрын

Word!!!

@8aleph 5 жыл бұрын

@@waynestarnes5462 Always felt safe when I had to ride in one which was often in the 70's

@robertwilkinson2227 5 жыл бұрын

nothing is noisier than being inside a 130 hopefully modern ones are better???

@Nikley45brolik 5 жыл бұрын

new c130 come in french army in 2018 this name is c130j

@Nikos-bu3so 5 жыл бұрын

this is a C-130J Super Hercules not c130

@SigmaWolf-in2mr 3 жыл бұрын

I had the privilege of being a passenger on one off these, older version of course. Fond memory, long time ago.

@theflyingbutcher1798 5 жыл бұрын

They are two different aircraft designed around two different payloads, so you you can't compare them, the A400 can carry more over a longer range but the C130 is better suited in the tactical role.

@2FlyCaptain 2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the C-130 is 50 years older

@philv3941 2 жыл бұрын

Nope, even tactical specs are slightly better for the A400M ( shorter take off and landing on unprepared track with more payload)

@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR 2 жыл бұрын

You say you can't compare them,then you go on to make a direct comparison. Go figure.

@ser43_OLDC 2 жыл бұрын

@@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR you can't compare them because they are ment for different roles

@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR 2 жыл бұрын

@@ser43_OLDC how did you conclude that they are for different roles? By comparing them I presume.

@abuseofmainstreammediacanh5713 5 жыл бұрын

You're comparing apple with pear. Two completely different tactical concepts, two completely different operational specifications.

@mbukukanyau 5 жыл бұрын

This is true, also decades apart in technology

@Nyx_2142 4 жыл бұрын

@@mbukukanyau Not really. The C-130 is getting upgraded constantly. A400 is simply a new design in that aspect.

@afcgeo882 3 жыл бұрын

Not completely different. The A400M was designed to perform about 80% of the missions of C-130s and C-17s, for countries that don’t or can’t spend the money on both, and don’t need the additional range/speed of the Moose or the special operations flexibility of the Herc.

@lucywucyyy 4 жыл бұрын

had no idea the 130 could do a loop, extremely capable for a cargo plane

@tonywatson7988 4 жыл бұрын

I know very little about the capabilities of the A 400M but it certainly looks great. In terms of capability the C 130 impressed me the most when it flew non-stop from RAF Fairford in the UK to Anguilla in the Carribbean carrying 4000 Lbs of freight and landed on a difficult, 1400 foot dirt runway. 4000Lbs was much less than its max load of course but to take it on a long haul flight and land on such a restricted, short strip was very impressive.

@13tucker45 3 жыл бұрын

Considering the C130s service history, and time in the sky, it's quite the bird. I especially like the time it evacuated people from Vietnam and the pilot pumped the brakes to pack more.people in it. Love that plane.

@ritzgj3666 2 жыл бұрын

That was a good loop of the Herkules.And a good full stop.

@erwincuputra7780 5 жыл бұрын

that airbus short landing is fenomenal.

@afcgeo882 3 жыл бұрын

They all have had phenomenal short landings when empty. That’s their role.

@MrStrat01 2 жыл бұрын

@@afcgeo882 Yes but don't forget the A400 M is twice the weight of the C-130 !!!

@afcgeo882 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrStrat01 The weight/size isn’t really important in landing. You offset that with lower landing speed/stall speed and larger wheels/brakes. A C-17 only needs 3,500 feet. The A400M needing 2,500 feet makes perfect sense. A C-130 needs 3,000 feet. This is all theoretical, however, as these are all unsafe to test. The FAA requires 6,000 feet minimum for all three, for example. No one in their right minds will ever try to land in these planes in less than 5,000 feet of perfect, paved runway, empty.

@davidcole333 3 жыл бұрын

When the A400M has 60 years of service life, then we'll talk.

@stanleybuchan4610 3 жыл бұрын

The A400 won't see that longevity.

@HUNTER-KILLER. 2 жыл бұрын

@@stanleybuchan4610 In aviation matters everything can happen and nothing is said.😎

@friedhelmmunker7284 2 жыл бұрын

Every plane get Updates. C130 today has nothing to do with the C130, 60 years befor. Today fly by wire, bus-sytems and PC Controller., befor Pneumatic and manuall.

@septicwhelk3654 2 жыл бұрын

@@friedhelmmunker7284 nothing ?

@augustiner3821 Ай бұрын

we can talk now about how to get a Puma or Boxer from A to B.

@josipvrandecic2472 5 жыл бұрын

Although I know they are empty and with little fuel, their maneuvers are very impressive and dangerous....Thanks a lot to TopFelya.

@topfelya 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Josip !

@juanramonsanchez671 2 жыл бұрын

Hercules is one venerable vintage.

@neilgutteridge6405 3 жыл бұрын

Technology moves on but legends never die.

@Glidescube 4 жыл бұрын

These are two completely different platforms. It's like comparing a pickup truck to a moving van

@fissionpulsar8406 5 жыл бұрын

💯 Equally Impressed in many fashion if the design if crafts and wind-speed.

@davidbeattie4294 3 жыл бұрын

It becomes a question of what you need to do and where that has to happen. This defines the capabilities required. The A400 is clearly a phenomenal aircraft but it is far more expensive and has capabilities that aren't going to be required all the time. The C130 is as old as me and I'm retired. Its still working because it does a great job at a wide variety of tasks unlike myself. That plus the fact its affordable, reliable, maintainable, and supported around the world makes it a smart choice.

@karlreinke 4 жыл бұрын

Which one would you trust to party-crash the eyeball of a hurricane in? Or land on an unimproved attic permafrost runway? The Airbus is impressive but I would not trust my life to a multinational consortium. I'd trust my life to the Herc.

@odiesclips7621 2 жыл бұрын

I'm an old C130E model crew chief. Hated to maintain them, but they are awesome workhorses.

@homers7777 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic. Thanks for not putting stupid music over the top like some on you tube do.

@tenburywellsmartin7576 3 жыл бұрын

C 130 doing a loop and pulling "wheelies" at the end,seals it for me....C 130 the BEST...!!!!!

@Vortechtral 2 жыл бұрын

That was the A400 doing the loop and "wheelie"

@Skiddins 2 жыл бұрын

@@Vortechtral Err... nope

@Vortechtral 2 жыл бұрын

@@Skiddins Sorry I was wrong, never read the description, sorry my dudes!

@altair7001 2 жыл бұрын

That was an accidental wheelie because the pilot did not release the brakes while the props were still in reverse.

@jfrphoto01 2 жыл бұрын

@@altair7001 Please post your source for that statement!

@Harldin 5 жыл бұрын

For the overall cost of operating 6 A400s you will operate about 12 C-130s, yes the A400 is the superior Aircraft but quantity has a quality all of its own and no matter how good an Aircraft is it can only be in one place at a time.

@inselvideo 5 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison! The A400M look´s awesome in every situation. But the C- 130 looping is very spectacular. LIKE! Greetings!

@topfelya 5 жыл бұрын

Yes !C-130 Loop was highlight of Farnborough airshow . Thank you for watching mate !

@kennethconnors7532 5 жыл бұрын

there is a new C130 model out in Feb 2019 with more power and bigger props

@danielspillett5393 5 жыл бұрын

the A400M does not work only 2 out of 20 RAF A400m are air worthy at any one time the engine's don't work euro crap. NATO has complained about this at a meeting of NATO ministers

@alucardhellsing1037 4 жыл бұрын

@@danielspillett5393 Stop spreading lies.

@robberes6799 4 жыл бұрын

Is there EVER a reason to loop a TACTICAL transport??? Easy answer... But in my heart, the Herc wins! The 300 is just a (already out of production) C-17 with props. 🙄

@jjburns8762 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, both are very impressive aircraft. Very nice camera work.

@firhatarzan6928 5 жыл бұрын

Recently in Palu, lndonesia a A400M belongs to Royal Malaysian Air Force managed to land on a cracked 2000mtrs runaway with 17 tons of humanitarian relief donated by Malaysian. Initially schedule to flew only to Balikpapan airport in Kalimantan, nearest to Sulawesi on the early advice of lndonesian authorities, the crew managed to convinced the lndonesian military authorities to allowed them to flew in to Palu airport despite the hazardous risk to themselves n to the aircraft and they, taking a very calculated precaution did it successfully, and the following consecutive days flew in again from Jakarta to Palu, Sulawesi with a two oil tankers each carrying 5000 litres of fuel n the following day carry a 22 tons of excavator to the same location...from Oct 4th to Oct 7th, 2018 at the request of lndonesian authorities. Four days non stop operation n eight sorties all together. Taking into account that it took almost two and a half hours to flew from Halim Perdana Kesuma airbase in Jakarta to AlJufri Airport in Palu one way n that didn't include aircraft preflight check n loading of others essentially much needed humanitarian reliefs, that is quite an achievement for this aircraft as well as the courageous pilots who push the awesome air transporter to its maximum capability, quite a madness n insane mission for a hardly tested new aircraft by its operator at such a scale! Kudos to RMAF aviators!

@blumac9801 5 жыл бұрын

Firhat Anubis I feel like ur a bot

@firhatarzan6928 5 жыл бұрын

@@blumac9801 Hahaha...whatever made you come to such assumption. I'm only clarified over some vague issues or misconceptions commented here.

@firhatarzan6928 5 жыл бұрын

Just conveying informations that really happened on the ground n others took for granted so all can have a clear pictures of what really happened out there. Regarding the A400M n Royal Malaysian Air Force achievement n capability it is all in KZfaq. Video evidence don't lie or give out wrong impression, it just that certain parties prefer to kept in under wrap or kept it repressed for their own vested interests.

@firhatarzan6928 5 жыл бұрын

@@blumac9801 So, you still maintained to your perception that l am as to what you prescribed? Hahaha...l must be an Artificial lntelligence with its own thoughts n perception then.

@tombats6428 5 жыл бұрын

Not very recently a C130 landed on a carrier, maybe 1,000 feet long LOL

@alta6055 3 жыл бұрын

You cant compare A400 with C-130 as each one has been built following different targets, both are great

@peterwilliamson8721 3 жыл бұрын

To do a loop in such an aircraft is jawdropping.

@robertogainza1267 4 жыл бұрын

Impresionante!!!, tremendos pilotos..de ambas aeronaves...Unos maestros!!!.

@reggierico 5 жыл бұрын

I think the proven record of the Hercules has an advantage due to the amazing versatility of the platform, performing everything from satellite capture to close air support, weather reconnaissance, search and rescue, fire fighting, aerial refueling, and many other roles in addition to their normal airlift/airdrop assignments. The A400 is admittedly an amazing platform, new and very modern, but consider this; COST.

@horusfalcon 2 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey, we think a lot alike, you and I. There's room for both aircraft, so use the one that is a better fit for a given mission.

@NealTK 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, I can't really picture an AC-400

@ser43_OLDC 2 жыл бұрын

@@NealTK what the air refueling of the A400?

@juliane__ 10 ай бұрын

A400M is very cost effective in the long run. It costs half of c 130 to run. But the upfront cost is high. All in all way more capable than the C 130 because it is already in a different class.

@celovity_747 5 жыл бұрын

Super Job!

@topfelya 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching mate !

@drumstreetmkaybye2574 5 жыл бұрын

Both of them made a nice show

@sparrowhawk3894 Ай бұрын

As a former Aircrew on the EC-130 I know that i'm prejudicial , but i just love that old bird. I say that because it can do just anything asked of it. After thousands of hours I'm more convinced today that ever.

@grochomarx2002 3 жыл бұрын

Let's be honest here. The c 130 will still be flying and earning it's pay long after the last 400M has been retired and sent to a museum. It is a truly great plane, in the same category as the c 47 / DC 3. Our grandchildren will be flying them long after we are gone.

@orgcoast5990 4 жыл бұрын

The A400 is impressive but look at the competition----a 60+ year old design! Its hard to imagine that it is still a major force in the military transport/attack aircraft inventory. Sorta like the DC3---when it good, its good!

@taquila6894 4 жыл бұрын

Difference being C130 has higher serviceability rate & is easier to fix when broken which is nowhere near like as often as the A400m

@attilaattila1656 4 жыл бұрын

A400M is a maintenance nightmare. Better to have a C130J in war time.

@BigRed999 4 жыл бұрын

The C130J, looks like a C130 but actually, it's a totally different aircraft.

@afcgeo882 3 жыл бұрын

The J (Super Hercules) has almost nothing in common with the original model.

@orgcoast5990 3 жыл бұрын

@@afcgeo882 No true. Check the specs. Most changes are avionics, the most dramatic is the engines and the only structural change is a improved wing box. One version is 15 feet longer. However, all those changes took place 20 years ago in 1999.

@MisteriosGloriosos922 2 жыл бұрын

OMG NICE COMPARISON !

@MadMax0331 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent

@zetothesharkwolf6972 5 жыл бұрын

Both are the best Turboprop Military Cargo Plane for all situation!

@private6549 5 жыл бұрын

yeah and both did EVERYTHING they was created to do and more! but i still prefer the older C130 Hercules over A400 even though they are both very awesome aircraft

@gerddagamarose3981 5 жыл бұрын

An 70 ?

@TheJimprez 3 жыл бұрын

WOW! That Atlas is a REAL nice aircraft.. Imagine making one into a gunship?

@carmudgeon7478 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah... It's called the AC130. 105 out the port side. You can see one in "Olympus Has Fallen."

@robw7676 Жыл бұрын

Credit to the C130's designers - 4x turboprops on a high wing with a fat fuselage, low slung wheels in pods, and a big load ramp at the back is still the best template for a do-it-all military load hauler!

@cmscms123456 4 жыл бұрын

Considering the A400M is mostly broken down, and production is now on hold, and both Germany and France are now buying C-130-J's Id say its a pretty easy choice.

@tetauruhatitio840 4 жыл бұрын

LOL ne dit pas n importe quoi la france et l allemagne ne veulent pas de cette merde de c130

@Fabio-om4kb 4 жыл бұрын

@@tetauruhatitio840 Désoler de te contredire mais la France en a racheter 2 de plus il y a quelques mois.

@mylosairplanefan 5 жыл бұрын

Not sure which one is better but I prefer the looks of the C-130 :) Nice footage mate!

@topfelya 5 жыл бұрын

Im personally like C-130 too

@rommelcruz3651 4 жыл бұрын

True! Its rugged and utilitarian design is timeless. I have been looking at it since i was a child, fast forward 40 years, it still look good! And the airplane making a loop with beer in pilot's hand is what's up!

@ericgirardet1848 4 жыл бұрын

A400M what a beast!

@lusqwerty 4 жыл бұрын

Both aircraft are capable in their own unique role that they are designed. Like the Lockheed Martin's Hercules aircraft one version fitted with weapons and become a gunship and really perform reliably in the battlefield.

@sudrajatsuhaeli6799 5 жыл бұрын

Both are good, for short landing and attractive take off.

@christophermontoya6178 5 жыл бұрын

For as old as the C-130 isIt’s extremely impressive to see an aircraft that large that size perform a complete loop as much as I really enjoyed looking at the A400 The C-130 still win the grand prize.....

@arvedludwig3584 5 жыл бұрын

The a400 can do a loop as well

@christophermontoya6178 5 жыл бұрын

@@arvedludwig3584 yes thank you for pointing out the obvious given the fact that every aircraft is capable of performing a loop however very few aircraft with the age of the C-130 are capable here's your hat back Captain Obvious

@regregan5755 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly what use is a loop to a transport aircraft though? You want a workhorse not a trick pony.

@christophermontoya6178 5 жыл бұрын

Reg regan you’re missing the point son this is an airshow it doesn’t have a payload there’s only pilots otherwise it’s completely empty you’re not going to do loops with a full load of troops and materials so again son you are missing the point ......

@regregan5755 5 жыл бұрын

@@christophermontoya6178 oh so what's the point then? It can do tricks that are about as usefull as pissing into the wind? That's like buying a car that can jump off cliffs, looks cool but pointless asf to drop the kids at school.

@Pincer88 5 жыл бұрын

Very hard to say which one is better. It all depends on what requirements a customer has and how much he's willing to pay. The A400M has got better payload-range performance, the Herc has better range, a slight price advantage and the backing of the USAF, USSOCOM and USMC. IN terms of STOL performance they seem to be on par, though the Atlas seems to have a bit more excess power for better climb rates. Other than that, I love them both and certainly like the video! Thx!

@topfelya 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment !

@flybeep1661 5 жыл бұрын

The backing of USAF, USSOCOM and USMC for foreign customers means diddly squat and I wonder how many Americans think the A400 is an American product because I've seen plenty of comments most seem to think it's American.

@BigRed999 4 жыл бұрын

The A400 isn't a 'real' tactical aircraft!

@Pincer88 4 жыл бұрын

@@BigRed999 With that price tag one would be indeed stupid to risk taking hostile fire...

@BigRed999 4 жыл бұрын

Pincer88 you’re showing ignorance. Case closed.

@ronstucker3550 Жыл бұрын

Same uncle was assigned to SAC after being navigator He was a Bombadaer in B52's stationed in Texas in the early- mid 60's Later 70's he was a Pilot in C 141's in the Mid 80's his son joined AF and was assigned to B52.s 2 generations now my cousins son and daughter in law both are in the AF.

@geargrinder5182 3 жыл бұрын

When I was a Firefighter in the USAF, there was an incident where a F 16 collided with a C 130 taking 10 feet of the C 130's wing off. The C130 was on final when it happened. It did a go around and landed safetly. Highly doubt the A400m could do the same. (Incident happened at Pope AFB, 1994)

@2FlyCaptain 2 жыл бұрын

Green Ramp Disaster, very sad.

@sidneyleduc8364 9 ай бұрын

In 2003 an Airbus 310 was hit by a missile. It tore a big chunk of the wing. It landed safely and isn't build as sturdy as the A400.

@zabaleta66 5 жыл бұрын

The A400M did the short landing beautifully. The C-130J crammed on the wheel brakes savagely in both stops to try and get a similar stopping distance.

@gravelydon7072 5 жыл бұрын

But a C-130 has done something that the Airbus has not as far as short landings. A C-130 has landed on an aircraft carrier fully loaded. And taken off again from that same aircraft carrier. Multiple times in the same day. And no tail hook was injured in the making of the landings. :-D

@blueferretman64 5 жыл бұрын

@@gravelydon7072 That C130 wasn't fully loaded or fully fuelled. It was weight restricted in order to find out if it could land a "useful load" on an aircraft carrier if required.

@gravelydon7072 5 жыл бұрын

@@blueferretman64 "Altogether, the crew successfully negotiated 29 touch-and-go landings, 21 unarrested full-stop landings, and 21 unassisted takeoffs at gross weights of 85,000 pounds up to 121,000 pounds. At 85,000 pounds, the KC-130F came to a complete stop within 267 feet, about twice the aircraft's wing span! The Navy was delighted to discover that even with a maximum payload, the plane used only 745 feet for takeoff and 460 feet for landing roll. "

@blueferretman64 5 жыл бұрын

@@gravelydon7072 I don't dispute these facts. But at 85,000 lbs it would only have been 9,200 lbs above its empty weight, and not as you claimed "fully loaded". The USS Forrestal trails were an experiment, which successfully proved that a useful ,but limited load, could be delivered by a C130 onto the large deck area of a Forrestal Class aircraft carrier. An A400M has only a slightly longer wingspan to the C130. And has a very good short field landing capability. So would undoubtedly be able to carry out a similar landing if required. Who knows, it may even be trailed at some point in the future.

@BigRed999 4 жыл бұрын

@@blueferretman64 thats not the point - it landed on an aircraft carrier

@tacjam1 4 жыл бұрын

the C-130 had me at "LOOP!"

@emiralamsyah9668 2 жыл бұрын

I do not know, which is better. I still featured Hercules C - 130. Now there has been a Super Hercules C- 130J. Bravo.

@takenbythewindNdrivenbythesea 5 жыл бұрын

Both tactical airlifter are very Impressive

@adobo777 4 жыл бұрын

The A400M looks like a C17 Globemaster with props

@gazof-the-north1980 3 жыл бұрын

For me its the C-130. Over 60 years of service (yes I know its been upgraded over the years). Its served in every aviation capacity reasonably imagineable - cargo transport, special ops, re-fueller, electronic warfare, drone carrier, water bomber, arctic/antarctica ops, AEW, flying Command post, bad ass gunship oh and its even landed on an aircraft carrier!.

@clivedoe9674 4 жыл бұрын

I've been working on C-130s for 2 decades and I've never even heard of one doing a loop. The post flight inspections on that thing must take all year.

@topfelya 4 жыл бұрын

She did it few times during flying display at Farnborough 2018 airshow

@BigRed999 4 жыл бұрын

norwegians have been doing loops at airshows for over 20 years in B-models.

@afcgeo882 3 жыл бұрын

Why would one do that outside of air shows? Manufacturers would do that. Customers would never.

@user-sr6pi5lp3q Жыл бұрын

That stroboscope effect :)

@thesirmaddog8209 5 жыл бұрын

The C-130 has landed on a Aircraft Carrier and took off from it

@thesirmaddog8209 5 жыл бұрын

And that was before the new J models

@Harldin 5 жыл бұрын

Yea with no Cargo and very little Fuel, what's the point of that for a Tpt Aircraft?

@thesirmaddog8209 5 жыл бұрын

@@Harldin That's why it hasn't done it again... But NO other aircraft at this size has ever done it... And the C-130 is over 30yrs old

@regregan5755 5 жыл бұрын

That's handy...

@EthanThomson 3 жыл бұрын

@@Harldin actually, it landed and took off with a full cargo load unassisted

@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 4 жыл бұрын

Airbus has taken 20 YEARS to build this A400; Hercules 60 years old.......

@mohamedmejd3062 3 жыл бұрын

The C130 Hercules is an exceptional aircraft and i had the opportunity to go on board and travel abroad

@jamespisano1164 2 жыл бұрын

That's badass. I had no idea those transport planes could maneuver so well. I love the Airbus; same on in the Mission Impossible movie, right? Very cool platform.

@davereid-daly2205 3 жыл бұрын

I've always been a C130 fan but that Airbus platform has far better landing stability. Its a very impressive aircraft.

@beaconmania 5 жыл бұрын

Both aircraft have their own merits; hard to compare

@carrolaqmal 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@tonyryan1894 Жыл бұрын

Comparing the A400M against the C130 is like comparing oranges with apples. A handful of A400M’s have been produced against over 2500 C130’s. Over 70 countries operate the C130. I personally have operated as a Flight Engineer on three models, the A-E-H. All were great aircraft as I am sure the A400M is. The A400M will never get anywhere near the number of C130’s produced or countries operating it. Finally, they are two very different aircraft.

@stephanembaye 3 жыл бұрын

Quite funny to compare two aircraft types from airshows... Also funny to see rotating clouds during the loop

@michaelchristensen6884 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like the A400 bleeds energy quickly on take off, unlike the Herc. Which did a quick take off, the A400 did a maximum airspeed take off. Two different take off styles. Gotta go with the battle tested Herc.

@ximopaya6025 4 жыл бұрын

Se nota la "edad" de ambos diseños, el A-400 es claramente superior, pero por sus años de servicio, hay que respetar al Hercules.

@joeykonyha2414 Жыл бұрын

There is a reason that the C-130 design is 70 years old and still going strong. I like the look of the Atlas, though. Like a C-130 and a C-141 had a kid.

@hauke4651 2 жыл бұрын

You can see that thrust reverse works immediately after all WOW sensors are flush 😅! Very impressive …

@hamdanosman2345 5 жыл бұрын

malaysia army have c130 n airbus a400 in servis

@guardian860 5 жыл бұрын

I choose A400 for sure... But after that loops... Im speechless... Hercules for manueveribility... A400 for showing off... good looking... 😁

@topfelya 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your view and comment

@attaat 5 жыл бұрын

But how would the cargo fair in that situation and where would that loop be useful in it's designed role?

@guardian860 5 жыл бұрын

@@attaat In certain situation that might be usefull... who knows...

@attaat 5 жыл бұрын

@@guardian860 I doubt it, the loss of energy associated with such a move would make the aircraft vulnerable to any attacker. A missile or fighter wouldn't be thrown off by it either. If cargo was on board such a move would result in a total loss of aircraft and cargo, if that move was even possible when loaded.!

@guardian860 5 жыл бұрын

@@attaat Yeah You right... I think that so... thats why I though only in "certain" situation with right moment... its hard to explain though...

@user-wn1ph1bu3f 5 жыл бұрын

awesome~

@andersschoen3613 2 жыл бұрын

Both awesome aircrafts but hard to compare them as they are different categories within the transport sector. Yes both are awesome of course.

@andia.4980 5 жыл бұрын

Both are great planes. Of course the design of the airbus is much more modern, behause its a much more modern plane. But the Hercules is legendary...

@BigRed999 4 жыл бұрын

You don't know what you're talking about - have you ever seen the C130J?!

@andia.4980 4 жыл бұрын

@@BigRed999 Yea, its an old plane with new technic. The look is nearby the same. Just the engines with his six-bladed propellers look different from outside. The struckture etc. all is similar to the old models. But like i told, its a great plane, so keep cool buddy. Germany also ordered 6 C-130 J for the german-franco unit in France.

@attilaattila1656 4 жыл бұрын

C130J has been continuously upgraded during its production. A400M IS A MAINTENANCE NIGHTMARE! In a time of war it's better to have a C130J

@deborahchesser7375 4 жыл бұрын

A venerable and even legendary design

@alfincassimiro4878 4 жыл бұрын

Wonder ! Beautiful !

@topfelya 4 жыл бұрын

It really is!

@Mike7478F 5 жыл бұрын

Both are superb transports. The C130 has a proven track record. I would like to know price tags and fuel burn etc. The sales could turn out to be similar to Boeing v Airbus. Customers who favour US v Euro. Dunno.

@topfelya 5 жыл бұрын

You probably right mate

@firhatarzan6928 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Those are factors to be considered before finalizing the purchase contract.

@PappyGunn 4 жыл бұрын

The only thing superb about the A400 is how airbus mismanaged the project and the retarded design decisions that were at the root of the problem, and remain still.

@vbarr67 5 жыл бұрын

The pilot of the C-130 is really good !

@private6549 5 жыл бұрын

it doesnt even take a good pilot to fly a C130 because they are very easy to fly planes and extremely easy to land despite its size

@rzz9594 2 жыл бұрын

@@private6549 so Uber or Door Dash which pilot should I call,,.

@TheKIR82 2 жыл бұрын

Чудо инженерной мысли! Красивый самолёт!Respect!

@a-fl-man640 Жыл бұрын

always been a C-130 fan but that A400M is a hell of an airplane. like a Herc and a C-17 had a turboprop baby..

@68arclight 4 жыл бұрын

Well, one works most of the time and the other doesn't.

@uwewaibel9163 4 жыл бұрын

just remember that it took 10 years to get the C130 into condition that it was acceptable....

@RU-zm7wj 5 жыл бұрын

Which one provides the most jobs in North America?

@matthiashaenni 5 жыл бұрын

Both are absolutely awesome! Impressive show! I personally like the Herky-bird better. Huge like for this amazing video!

@crgintx 5 жыл бұрын

The C130 took off and landed off a US Navy aircraft carrier without a catapult or arrestor hook...50 years ago! When the A400M performs this feat than I might be impressed. The A400M is more the equivalent of the older US C-133 Cargomaster.

@topfelya 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for you comment and interesting information

@crgintx 5 жыл бұрын

@@topfelya The A400M is a leap forward in technology. It's much faster and has nearly twice the thrust of the C130. To get the most out the thrust, it has cruise at much higher altitudes. It fills a gap that has existed for a very long time between the C-130 and faster jet transports that needed hard surfaced runways. The C-130 isn't a comfortable aircraft to fly medium-long distances(non pressurized cabin in the Hercules). The A400M will bring near commercial airline speed and comfort to many places that weren't economical to fly to because they could only be reached by the far less economical and slower aircraft like the Hercules, Sherpa and Caribou. The Hercules will still be around for decades to come but the A400M will be the airlifter for the emerging markets in Africa, Asia and South America.