HID vs LED vs Halogen Headlights in Projector Housings

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**Before you do any alteration to your vehicles lighting system, make sure it is legal for you to do so in your area. After installation make sure the lights are also aimed properly.
About a year ago I did a similar video using reflector housings. At that time many of you commented that you didn't feel that was a good test because it was not conducted in projector housings. That was a great point.
Now I'm back with what I feel is a better video conducting the same tests in projector housings. I hope you enjoy it.
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@uncreativename9936 6 жыл бұрын

9:50 is when the testing stops and he does the summary, in case you wanna skip.

@myfagan 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@jnkmal9519 4 жыл бұрын

I should have read the comments before watching the full video :( Thanks anyway.

@zjschulling 3 жыл бұрын

Bless

@S730SD 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing that :)

@theeabster1983 3 жыл бұрын

making my last comment I didn't realize this video is from 2018. LEDs have improved so much compared to HIDs. hopefully you're doing another one of these in the future. thanks for your time

@RedWingsninetyone 4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a remake of this video. From my understanding, LED technology has come a long way in 2 years.

@lordodd452 4 жыл бұрын

Dude. Just did 4 different led on Projector (RAM 2016) . Ranged from 40-250€. Now i am back to HID for ca 75-100€. Hid is still the way to Go at least from my perspective

@lordodd452 4 жыл бұрын

55 W ballast and 6000K bulb. Perfect light Color.

@RedWingsninetyone 4 жыл бұрын

@@lordodd452 which bulbs?

@lordodd452 4 жыл бұрын

RedWings-44 depends on car. For My RAM 2016 with projector headlights is the best bang for the Buck the WinPower HB3/9005 55W Auto HID Xenon Kit. Regards

@RedWingsninetyone 4 жыл бұрын

@@lordodd452 correct. Sorry, I forgot to specify. What LED bulbs and reflector or projector housings?

@zaqway 6 жыл бұрын

Eric, I believe that HID lux value is not 140k, but 14k. The three dots you saw on the screen are just ellipsis, indicating that the value doesn't fit on the screen completely, but it doesn't necessarily have to be exactly three digits. You are right in saying that HIDs are definitely brighter than Halogen bulbs. 3.5 times brighter sounds reasonable, but 35 times brighter isn't really possible. Especially since at 50ft they read only twice as bright as the halogen lights.

@catnapwat 6 жыл бұрын

Agreed, Direct sunlight is between 30,000 and 100,000 lux. No way these tiny things are putting out more than the output of the sun.

@iamezza 6 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@barisax16 5 жыл бұрын

More like 1400

@holmes1956O 5 жыл бұрын

zaqway kinda blows his expertise out of the water. Rendering his video completely useless

@rogerpearson9081 5 жыл бұрын

That sounds about right 3.5 x brighter. Minor detail we can take in our stride.

@eamonflanagan23 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Eric, just want to say i love your videos and watching and learning from you has inspired me to teach myself more about automotive maintenance. Ive just started taking a automotive class and i love it! In the process I've also discovered a new interest in it. Just wanted to say thank you and keep making videos as long as you can! Thank you!

@wtfman5313 6 жыл бұрын

It's really good to see you back and posting on ETCG. Thanks man.

@MrAauto83 5 жыл бұрын

Great job Sir. I drive a new semi and need brights lights. Thank you for clearing up my questions.

@ralluf15 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this useful information eric! I can see that a lot of effort went in to making this video.

@RayRiv73 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate all the time and effort you put into this video. Im going with LED in my 2015 RDX

@darius2640 6 жыл бұрын

I bet even engineering explained would be proud of such scientific test

@TonyGingrich 3 жыл бұрын

I know I'm about 3 years past the original posting of this video. But I only just now searched for this kind of info. Want to say: thank you! I need to replace my housings, and had been hung up on the idea of going with LEDs. This video has helped to clear my head and make me reconsider. Also, I only recently learned the terms "projector" and "reflector", so this also gave me a very good visual reference. I feel much better informed than ever, and am more confident in my shopping for replacements. I had actually used HID bulbs years ago to replace fog/flood lamps. On that vehicle, HID was not a good choice for the headlights due to the warm-up delay--the separate beams were mutually-exclusive in operation. But my current vehicle keeps lows on during high-beam operation, so I think HID could be a much better candidate this time.

@NeoMaxDucky 6 жыл бұрын

Great test Eric!! This is definitely good data in choosing what "bulbs" to use when deciding to modify the lights.

@TitsMcGee401 6 жыл бұрын

That's exactly the video I was looking for. As always, awesome video! Thanks a bunch Eric ;)

@Rickm2003 6 жыл бұрын

l was debating what to possibly upgrade to, this video just helped me make my decision.

@TheMrboogieman82 6 жыл бұрын

Best comparison video I've seen on KZfaq. Great job man.

@MrCBINO 5 жыл бұрын

Wow...awesome testing. I had a lot of confusion over these bulbs & now I'm cleared & I'm satisfied with your test results. Thanks for giving a detailed description about the lights. Good job keep it up.....👍

@AnthonyNolan01 5 жыл бұрын

This was an awesome test. I'll be getting HIDs for my lights. Thank's bro.

@ExhaustedOfficial 6 жыл бұрын

Great video mate, can tell from making videos myself the time and effort which has gone into this video👌🏻 top class job💪🏻

@MathewsGeorgeP 4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the efforts you have put into the testing.

@Andrew91690 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty decent video. Answered quite a few questions that were coming to my mind. Thank you for your footwork.

@kevinc9006 6 жыл бұрын

Damn....1 million subs....bet Eric didn't see this happening 20 years ago

@AlanL200Truckman 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Eric..... Thanks for shedding some light on that for us 💡💡 Great content & very informative as usual.

@michaelblacktree 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to do this.

@jeffjones4071 6 жыл бұрын

Great video! This help me decide what type of bulb I am going to use

@holmes1956O 5 жыл бұрын

You need to do your testing in a secluded area with no lights and determine the reach of each light into the darkness. That is the thing you should be concerned with is how far the light can illuminate objects down the road. Also keep in mind the brighter a light gets the shorter the spectrum of light it emits, no matter what type of light it is

@egocd 6 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it’s going to be 14,000 not 140,000. I don’t think the amount of dots equals the number of 0’s. Great video though Eric. You’re right, it’s wayyy better than your last one.

@NoorquackerInd 5 жыл бұрын

I'm a flashlight maker (yes it's more scientific than it sounds) and I commonly work with high power LEDs. This is probably 1,400 lux since lux is just lumens per square meter, and it's spreading out over a very large area.

@DivineTrueGod 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for Another great comparison review on the 3 types of bulbs!

@AR-jq1hs 5 жыл бұрын

Very informative! Thank you very much for this comparison video. It answers A LOT of questions!

@EpicATrain 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Eric, depending on the type of chip technology and layout that's inside the actual LED package, it will determine the pattern/layout and brightness of the bulb. It would be unfair to categorize all LED's under one umbrella since they are all made differently, designed differently, and perform differently. Even some halogens are like this to SOME degree but, in general, you can make a generalization with halogens. I do not have enough data about HID's or hybrids (xenon) bulbs to say whether or not generalizations can be made about them. I thought I had HID's in my system but after taking to many mechanics I found out I had a hybrid system of xenon bulbs, which is most annoying. So my recommendation to you is to find some LED bulbs with different LED chip technologies and find some different manufacturers and use them as a good comparison.

@jmwlife2k 4 жыл бұрын

EpicATrain I tried two brands of LEDs in my projector housings, both of them had great reviews and moderately high prices. The ones from 4x4 LEDs died in less than 3 months and had poor light output. The second pair I had got better light output but died in 11 months. I decided to have my local shop install some HIDs and it’s literally night and day. In projector housings the HIDs just throw the light so much further that it’s crazy. Granted there could be better LEDs out there and worse HIDs out there. But it seems like for the housing the LEDs just can’t hang from my experience.

@f5fstop 10 ай бұрын

@@jmwlife2k Two different brands in housings? Wow, that's a unique study....NOT. Again, LEDS need to be in housing DESIGNED FOR THEM, NOT SHOVED INTO HOUSING DESIGNED FOR OTHER TYPES of bulbs. Just look at how they are designed.

@jmwlife2k 10 ай бұрын

@@f5fstop For one both LEDs were recommended for the housing I bought. Secondly I never said what happened to me is going to me the experience for everyone or it’s some great case study. I even made clear that there might have been better LEDs or worse HIDs out there. - With that said, it doesn’t change the reality of what I experienced. Why would I buy a third pair of different recommended LEDs when two failed in less than 18 months and the light output for both of them were bad? HIDs in both experienced I had with them worked better. Stop being a weirdo product defender and learn how to read.

@luiskuronya9448 6 жыл бұрын

140000 seems like a huge difference. It's probably 14000. Appreciate the video Eric!

@tsherwoodrzero 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, you did a FAR better job than I could have done. It's interesting that the glare that people are knee-jerk "warning" about with the HID retrofit in these projector housings is no more than with a Halogen bulb. I did a comparison of the "cheap" H3 LED bulbs on my Expedition's spyder auto projector lights today and found all of them lacking, So, HID is getting ordered. Damn, my BMW's factory xenon lights got me spoiled :D

@flamingace47 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Eric because I have a 2003 Toyota Sequoia I've been wanting to put either hid or LED and unfortunately can't find any manufacturers that make projector housings but this video was incredibly helpful thank you.

@islamhelmy8456 6 жыл бұрын

Eric💖 welcome back

@vadimpavlov3697 6 жыл бұрын

just wanted to add my 5ct.. Actually lux or lux-o-meter is used to measure brightness of light on the surface, for example it is mainly used for measuring how bright is the surface of the sign of the supermarket or exmpl. coca cola sign. So when you were measuring the effect from a car that mainly may have had an effect on the reading, because accuracy of the reading in luxometer depends on the angle of the light that is projected to the sensor it self. In this case it would be better to use a lumen meter, as it is the most accurate metering device for light output from the source. BUT!, just for a comparisement this was an awesome test Eric, thank you.

@thomasherring6640 6 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this video, good information. A lot of people install upgraded lights, whether or not they are supposed to, it happens a lot. Good to see some solid information out there. Projector housings are the way to go if you are switching to HID or LED bulbs.

@SimbaSoundPower 4 жыл бұрын

Good job, I already had the feeling that HIDs are what I want in comparison to LEDs and this was a very good video to give me the info I need to make my decision. Thanks

@domrynk2 6 жыл бұрын

I wonder whether the low lux reading of the LED’s is due to LED’s flicking on and off so quickly. The camera may pick this up, where we don’t? Just a thought. Great video though!

@89Interceptor 6 жыл бұрын

was there a lumen rating on the led bulbs because i do know that not all leds are created equal also were the HID bulbs 35 or 55 watt

@SportBikeAnthony 6 жыл бұрын

EmofacePS3 LASFIT H7 LED Headlight Kits-COB Flip Chips/Adjustable Beam- 60W 7600LM 6000K-Hi/Lo Beam/Fog Light Bulbs. Link is in description above. They look like the low end types with the flat cob leds. I would say try it with the 4 sided cob leds, or get some like those opt7 ones. What ya think?

@slumygoat 4 жыл бұрын

Blueford86 no the more sides an headlight led has the cheaper and usually more ineffective it actually is at displaying a proper beam pattern my friend. Two sided LEDs at the most are the industry leaders blueprints for production

@andrewstambaugh8030 3 жыл бұрын

@@slumygoat Having upgraded honda dual-sport motorcycle headlights, I have to firmly disagree with your statement here. If you are trying to replace a halogen bulb with the most comparable coverage, you want a minimum of 2sided led unit that mimics the halogen filament location. And even stepping down in wattage, it will be a massive improvement in visibility (near doubt the long reach and more evenly out to the sides)

@andrewstambaugh8030 3 жыл бұрын

@@SportBikeAnthony Actually, the link is for 50W version LED's, vs 55w halogens, vs (link broken)

@montyjayak 6 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was searching for ! you are the best Eric !

@guitarstitch 6 жыл бұрын

Now you got me thinking about installing projectors in my '06 Element.

@JustVargi 6 жыл бұрын

There are changes in the Fstop and the "time" of the light meter app... Shouldn it be the same for every step? As a photographer there is big difference in the F stops, for example ?

@nunonavega 5 жыл бұрын

That's the recommended aperture (and shutter speed next to it) for the light conditions measured

@mindthependulum6245 6 жыл бұрын

It's worth mentioning that some aftermarket headlight upgrades are too hot for the stock reflector housings. I've seen cheaper eBay hid kits in an early 2000's Pontiac and the bulbs we're so hot during normal usage, the stock housings melted just enough for the bulbs to fall half way out. I had to replace the whole mess and pull out the hid kits and go back to stock with new housings too. Maybe you you could run the hid kits for 6 months and report back if they melted the plastic in yours too.

@2450logan 6 жыл бұрын

Peshewa diy I'm confused HID lights by fact run more cooler than a halogen, think you got some nice fakes haha

@ThaMagnaCarta 6 жыл бұрын

they should, because of quality, if you buy a 35W its no problem, but most promise "better visibility" and "bright white light", yet a cheap ballast will never give you a nice white light like the Osram or Phillips HIDs, in order to compete they are forced to give you a 55W ballast to give a similar light...again you may get better visibility compared to the cheap 35W, but will never get the white light the 35w Osram and Phillips gives in OEM cars today. and with a cheap 55w ballast and bulb, they would melt your housing just like a 55w halogen would because they give off much more heat and don't give you twice as much output, no reason ever to go 55W because its too hot for plastic, you run the chances of messing up your cars electrical system and melting the housing, besides the lifespan is already short, why reduce it in half for a 55W? sorry its a little long

@mindthependulum6245 6 жыл бұрын

logan thompson My customers may have, yes. However, I've seen it several times.

@rogerpearson9081 5 жыл бұрын

Something I would be curious about in HID vs halogen too. Some plastic housings will not tolerate a halogen upgrade over standard without melting. Also Ebay is probably not the best source of good quality. Some really rubbish stuff sold as premium product thanks China!

@jomangeee9180 6 жыл бұрын

Good to see you again wish you the best

@IstasPumaNevada 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for revisiting this.

@HoUsEoFcAtS78 5 жыл бұрын

I changed my halogen projectors to hid projectors. The results are absolutely amazing! I have them adjusted properly. And I couldn't be happier. The light travels noticeably farther. And I know they are not blinding oncoming traffic. If you're getting blinded by someone's low beam HID projectors, that means they are not properly adjusted. People have them adjusted up past the level of the mark on the light housing. Those people are really the douchebags!

@jonmanilenio Жыл бұрын

I know I should use HID projectors but my car already comes with halogen projectors so I guess I'll just settle instead of getting a projector retrofit. Hopefully it's not enough to make me regret it.

@TheShawn006 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Eric, excellent video. Entertaining and informative. Quick question though... What Wattage are you using for the HID kit? Eg. 35W or 55W Same question for the LEDs. Thanks

@ericthecarguy 6 жыл бұрын

All bulbs used are linked in the description.

@charlestackett7137 5 жыл бұрын

Great tests. I enjoyed the video. I did scroll past some of it, honestly, but still it was interesting and fun to watch.

@markwys 6 жыл бұрын

Eric, I like how you do your stuff. Thank you for taking all the extra steps you do to present your message.

@mikeyzedify 6 жыл бұрын

Good informative video, ignore stupid comments, he is a mechanic not a scientist so stop acting like the video lacked information or that he done this and that wrong, if you don't like it don't watch it.

@SilverMoon1134 6 жыл бұрын

Everyone is an expert in the comments apparently

@DanielRichards644 6 жыл бұрын

when it comes to this topic and having done everything from stock reflectors to full custom retrofit HID projectors yeah I'd say so, also 5000k sucks unless you are running a 55 or 65 watt ballast, if you are on 35 watt ballasts you should be no higher then 4300k for the most light output.

@guitarstitch 6 жыл бұрын

As someone who deals with theatrical lighting on a regular basis, I'm not sure I see the connection between power dissipation and color temperature on non-tungsten lamps. It may be different for headlights, but this would be the first time I've seen it. For what it's worth, 5000k tends to wash out details with its unnaturally white hue. My eyes prefer a slightly warmer temperature, which brings out details better (such as foreign objects in the roadway at night). Again, just my $0.02 based on a loosely related field of experience.

@DanielRichards644 6 жыл бұрын

the higher wattage ballast causes the bulb to color shift about 500k or so lower, like a 5000k bulb with a 55 watt ballast looks closer to a 4300k bulb with a 35 watt ballast then a 5000k bulb on a 35 watt ballast

@chamacorunner1 6 жыл бұрын

AkiraTheGodEater it's Allright I'm a "KZfaq master mechanic"

@Reathety 5 жыл бұрын

You sound like an expert on experts.

@dame305_ Жыл бұрын

I know its a 4 year old video but thanks for taking the time to really show every aspect of the light

@chrissv650s9 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the effort you put into this project, very good video

@pirana6 6 жыл бұрын

People, PLEASE recognize what eric did in his low car. I have a low car and can't tell you how often I get blinded by people with aftermarket headlights. AIM THEM DOWN. Don't worry, we can see you, my god.

@aussiebloke609 6 жыл бұрын

You seem to forget that headlights are to see _by_ - not just so you can see them. And just aiming them down isn't necessarily safe as, in a lower vehicle, there will always be a point where the light beam is going to be at the same height as your eyes. How about "set them correctly - both for height and horizontal aim"...?

@JeffReeves 6 жыл бұрын

Some people are just really dumb and point their headlights straight forward. It's actually best to aim at the road because that's what you are trying to see.

@DubRighteous 6 жыл бұрын

Lift your car

@bart99gt 5 жыл бұрын

That point goes clearly over the heads of most people with lifted vehicles in particular. I drive a lot at night for my job, and live in the South, so I regularly encounter lifted trucks and SUV s. With the over abundance of cheap LED and HID retrofit kits on eBay and Amazon, these types also like to find the brightest (ie., most glaring) lights they can find. So anyone in a lower vehicle, like me in my Mazda 3, get a double whammy or poorly aimed, too bright headlights.

@gleenmarktumangob3179 5 жыл бұрын

Jeff Reeves Yes the road. Not the obstructions or the pedestrians ahead, nor the oncoming traffic.

@hnm2014 6 жыл бұрын

HID’s for LOW beams LED for DRL/High beams LED’s look brighter but don’t go as far.

@caseywilson9520 4 жыл бұрын

Daytime running lights on most cars ARE low beams.

@EVOKIN 4 жыл бұрын

@@caseywilson9520 Most car in the early adaptation of DRL uses 'High Beam' with lower voltage for DRL. Now most vehicle uses separate DRL and/or Switchback (switches between DRL and turn signals).

@lucienl9465 4 жыл бұрын

early 2010, this would be the answer. 2020 ? not so much

@FinnishArmy 4 жыл бұрын

My car has one bulb for High and Low beams.

@lucienl9465 4 жыл бұрын

@John Doe aftermarket lights aren't bull shit. It's just with reflectors it blinds people if not set up properly. I got aliexpress headlight and it has total of 4 projector (hella +Q5) and my lights are amazing after adjustments You have not used any other cars with proper led headlights. That's why you were amazed.

@AttilaTheHun333333 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great effort on this test...really interesting and useful.

@leslie-tolman 2 жыл бұрын

So much dedication!! We love you for it!!

@lordleonusa 6 жыл бұрын

Oly problem I can see with this otherwise excellent review is that not ALL Halogen/HID/LEDs are created equal.

@ComandanteJ 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid, man! LEDs are just a tad dimmer than halogens but, IMO, you cant beat that white. HIDs are great but too expensive, and maybe too bright. Few people actually need that amount of light, unless you're off-roading in the middle of a new moon night.

@xavierc1999 6 жыл бұрын

ComandanteJ I nightly drive Florida back roads, so I really do need that bright of a light. Deer are a serious issue here, and with my stock lights I could barely see the sides of the roads

@ComandanteJ 6 жыл бұрын

Well, that's definetely a justified use-case, then. Bambies are a dangerous lot.

@jimkeenan162 4 жыл бұрын

Best informational video on headlight comparisons. Thanks much.

@Patrick94GSR 6 жыл бұрын

Those projectors are commonly known as "bi-xenon" projectors, so named for the HID headlight assemblies that use them to get both low and high beam from a single HID xenon capsule, since firing the capsule on and off as with normal halogen low/high beams can drastically shorten the life of the HID capsules. This is the first time I've ever seen them in an aftermarket assembly designed for halogen bulbs. The mid-2000's Nissan Maxima used a single halogen projector with a solenoid on the cutoff shield like this, along with a similar bi-xenon HID projector housing on the HID equipped cars (same projectors as used by the mid-2000's Mercedes E55, which I used in my Integra bi-xenon retrofit back in 2004).

@RayleighCriterion 5 жыл бұрын

Not all LED bulbs are created equal, some project more light forward than others, the rated brightness is not indicative of how much light will be projected forward. Some LED lights may do better in a reflector than a projector, and vice versa.

@matty1053 4 жыл бұрын

LEDs are overall brighter in reflector housing. Projector? Not so much. But you have to spend the money to get the better output.

@EjinRenos 3 жыл бұрын

@@matty1053 Totoally incorrect. OP has the proper statement. Most Led bulbs have their diode placement very far forward or at the end of the stall and this usually makes it bad for reflector housings but decent on projectors that uses to house HID. Some brands, like Hikari found on Amazon, are developed to match halogen bulb filament placing. This makes them suitable for reflector or halogen projector. I put some in my 2008 MX5 and the improvement was vast. The projectors shot the light perfectly with no real issue except near car blind spots that you really can't see in the car. I never had to use my brights after that and was never flashed. In addition to that my old Mx5 was better illuminated than my brand new 2019 that comes with LED from factory, in projector style headlights. Also put same brand LEDs in a 2002 Porsche boxster with reflectors. Most European cars have projector style cut offs in their reflector housings so I tried them to make an improvement. They did make somewhat an improvement with better road illumination but overall it's a marginal improvement over halogens. Not like my MX5 where I could see down the road and off to the sides and never need brights again.

@kwett5529 6 жыл бұрын

Aren't projectors also have many different type? Like projector for halogen is different than projector for HID and also LED.

@t.regnerus301 6 жыл бұрын

Andri Herawan Yes. Different light sources have different projectors.

@kwett5529 6 жыл бұрын

Ted R. Okay, now which type of projector does he use in this video?

@wesgreen2812 6 жыл бұрын

an Ebay halogen projector, the worst one you can get

@Haloruler64 6 жыл бұрын

To be fair, it's not the worst. Some of those eBay projectors have that crazy ring of darkness through them. These are at least not TERRIBLE.

@ctdrone 6 жыл бұрын

Exactly, if he’s using a halogen projector housing, then it’s not really scientific. LED light will scatter in a halogen projector and HIDs won’t put out the intended output, etc etc etc

@sergiocubillos6164 4 жыл бұрын

Hi. Thanks for this great video! What bulbs did you use to get that perfect beam pattern ?

@0201manny 6 жыл бұрын

Very informative! thanx Eric. Good vid as always

@ellesmerewildwood4858 6 жыл бұрын

"High beams, low beams, high beams, low beams." Colonel Jack O'Neill did a similar test on Thor's ship, the Daniel Jackson. "Light's on, light's off, light's on, lights off..." Thor, T'ealc and Daniel were understandably unimpressed. :o)

@caseywilson9520 4 жыл бұрын

....What?

@Wokculture69 6 жыл бұрын

A bliding video...

@alistairstuart2009 6 жыл бұрын

I didn't see that one coming!

@chrwl007 6 жыл бұрын

You really didn't see that one coming? To me it was glaringly obvious.

@billysandals 6 жыл бұрын

This comment shines.

@braddomangue185 3 жыл бұрын

Dang bro, this was a very informative video. Thank you!

@jj3ff3r50n808 6 жыл бұрын

Finally a very very good comparison test

@brittanywright9646 6 жыл бұрын

One point I would like to make to your test. Although this is a very good test, the LED lights are at a great disadvantage because when you sit any aftermarket LED bulb in a projector housing, it is not in the correct position to give you the maximum output. The LED chips do not produce a full 360° light dispersion even if you have 4 large chips that cover the entire bulb. The chips project the light perpendicular, whereas the HID and the halogen project the light forward, backward, and around all sides of the reflector within the projector housing. To get the maximum output the light source needs to be at a specific focal point inside the reflector parabola. You will notice that if you take something like an H1 bulb and move it forward and backward in a reflector parabola (just the part that has the reflective surface) made for a H4 bulb the light output will fluctuate until you get it at the right focal point where the light will be able to hit the immediate surrounding surfaces of the reflector and project it forward as a concentrated beam of light.

@ericthecarguy 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input. If you watch the other video linked in the description you'll see that the results of the LED are typical. The light for LED is not as intense as HID.

@brittanywright9646 6 жыл бұрын

Yes. Watched that just now. The LED lights are a lot tougher to maximize the light output using after market bulbs. If you were to compare Audi's matrix LEDs or those from Mercedes multibeam LEDs.....or even one from a Mazda CX-9, you'd see the output is 10 times greater than what any aftermarket LED bulb could duplicate because the factory LED set up don't use actual bulbs like H11, HB4, etc. as far as I know. The LED chip is mounted to a board and several mirrors are used to get the LED to project in a true 360° pattern (forward, backward, and around all sides). A test comparison between the 3 bulbs that would be a bit more fair where all the bulbs would equal would be to make the HID and halogen bulb similar to that of the LED by preventing some of the light from going forward, backward, and masking off 2 sides depending on how many LED chips you have. That would be a bit extreme though.

@chrishotham2854 4 жыл бұрын

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@Darksyne 6 жыл бұрын

Just proves that HID's are still king 😎 LEDs are perfect for brake and tail lights because they turn on instantly but I always prefer HID's for headlights.

@wesgreen2812 6 жыл бұрын

my Corolla's stock LED bulbs are just as bright as HID, he's using shitty aftermarket bulbs.

@MatrixGuardians99 6 жыл бұрын

Wesley Green If you have a new 2014+ Corolla then no. Proper testing will prove that an OEM HID projector system of the same time beats it in glare levels, foreground, distance, and width. Also, most OEM HID projector systems are bi-xenon.

@animefreak5757 6 жыл бұрын

I think LED comes out on top when it's done right. Led's dont' work the same way halogen's and hid's do, they require different housing requirements. If you want to see what LED is capable of look at either car's that come stock with them, or the sealed beam LED's. Both of these offer engineers the chance to properly heatsink the led's and crank the power up.

@berengerchristy6256 6 жыл бұрын

I bought some headlights with integrated LEDs for low/high beams. They came with a warning that they make sound while operating because there is a fan that has to cool things. The only reason they don't seem as bright as the stock bixenons is because they are ~6000k while the stocks were closer to ~4500k

@SugaryPhoenixxx 6 жыл бұрын

So YOU'RE the guy who is always blinding me on the road! >:(

@Shewent2008Jared Жыл бұрын

This was great man! Helped out alot

@LeeWinbush 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, answered my questions!!!

@jeffparker862 5 жыл бұрын

this may be old news, and you may already know this... but seeing as how it was done THIS year, im going to post it anyway. you cannot simply lump all LED bulbs into the same category. there are some out there that are terrible for projectors... no doubt (especially the cheap ones like you just tested - lasfit are complete garbage). they werent built for projector housings. however, if you do a minor amount of research, youd see that there are a ton that ARE designed specifically to work in projector housings. HID and LED bulbs that were designed for projectors will result in typically the exact same output numbers. while it is true that HID are the safe bet as no matter what... they will give consistent performance - it is still a trade off. HIDs take several seconds to 'warm up'.... you can't flash HIDs... flipping from low to high beams results in several seconds of little light. if you know what youre doing, and what youre getting, LEDs are the better alternative, but they are not all made the same.

@ImJustKindaHere 5 жыл бұрын

Oh shit! He marked it with a board! Damn, that is precision baby! 😂 I'm j/k

@YogRox 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for very helpful & technologically proven review.... one must go for hid or led by putting aside halogens... must appreciate for your hardwork..

@carloscarrasco8853 6 жыл бұрын

Excelente video, muy clara la manera de verificar la diferencia entre las distintos tipos de iluminación.

@SuperFIFTHGEAR 6 жыл бұрын

Just to note for UK readers, and motorists. Your car will fail an MOT if fitted with HID lights as fitting them is an offence, and illegal.

@johnmclaughlin7309 6 жыл бұрын

only if not fitted with projector headlights, lense washers and automatic leveling

@IliescuBenyamin 6 жыл бұрын

Those cost 500$ plus labour. It's more convenient to run projectors and halogens inside .

@johnmclaughlin7309 6 жыл бұрын

very true, hence why there is a bad reputation in regards to HID's, so many people use them without the proper equipment..

@johnmclaughlin7309 6 жыл бұрын

Chris P Bacon charming ✌️

@Naughty_Squad 6 жыл бұрын

Smells a bit cheesy.. No you won't fail it with a projector headlight proven for many years

@Seegalgalguntijak 6 жыл бұрын

Somehow 140k lux sounds like way too much. Sure this wasn't some measuring fault? Could you repeat that measurement and get that high a number each time? Sounds quite unbelievable...

@buggsyspam 6 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing it was 14K, which still is a bit hard to believe.

@creamofbotulismsoup9900 6 жыл бұрын

Needs to get a better app, it was probably 14k.

@michaelyoung7911 6 жыл бұрын

WHTMAN0815 he has a light reading attachment he's not using the physical phone to read the light

@AllThingsMech 6 жыл бұрын

WHTMAN0815 even if he was using the phone, he measured all of the lights consistently with the same device. Rather than getting super accurate numbers, I think the point was more about comparing the three different light sources to each other. For that purpose, the phone app is fine.

@michaelyoung7911 6 жыл бұрын

The Ranch Mechanic yes but his numbers for the hid light are definitely not right haha but great video

@01FozzyS 6 жыл бұрын

Nice to see Brian's name back in the camera credit.

@MOTOVATOR101 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent job Eric. Thank You

@krazor8 5 жыл бұрын

Try driving somthing really low.. Like a c5 vette, and here come the God of light truck with full hids and light bars on...

@JonnyQ408 3 жыл бұрын

Try a Toyota MR2 even smaller, and the lights output only goes 6 -8 feet away.

@BriveAW 3 жыл бұрын

U finna meet Jesus lol

@mishoon7855 6 жыл бұрын

This was a much better comparison video, my only problem is Eric, you used a very very poor quality LED Kit. The LED themselves on them are not powerful enough to produce the amount of light you need. Also Projector housings that are aftermarket usually have defects in the reflector base with the chrome usually its all bubbled and not a perfect mirror. Not saying yours are like that though. To have any comparison with the HIDS would be to get a 100 or more LED bulb/kit. Usually the good ones with be passive cooled and not fan cooled. They usually have a bunch of flat braided cables coming out the back. But for good LED bulbs you have to spend some money. Anyways keep doing what you do Eric!

@ericthecarguy 6 жыл бұрын

If you watch the other video you'll see the results are typical. HIDs are brighter than LEDs.

@mjberta7319 6 жыл бұрын

HID are brighter yes but for reliability, ease of installation and the fact no ballast is needed like the HID bulbs need led is better and in a couple years I see LED surpassing them

@mjberta7319 6 жыл бұрын

Andrew Muller and that being said in colder climates HID are superior to LED due to the LED bulbs not emitting enough heat to melt ice off the lens

@ayolevar 6 жыл бұрын

chrome shrouds/housing have little to do with emitting light so those defects don't matter. All you have is a type of light source, a physical piece to make the cutoff line, and the lens.

@mjberta7319 6 жыл бұрын

Plus he made sure the output of both led and hid were both 5000k

@tropical_waves671 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the explanation in a way that I can understand! I have projector xenon HID lights in my 2010 Nissan Murano LE. I changed the HIDs two weeks ago and upgraded to 8000. I believe the previous owner used 5000. I see the difference. I’m impressed with your video and love my HID lights are awesome!

@michaelmccarty6582 Жыл бұрын

Going from 5000 to 8,000 is not an upgrade, it's just changing the color from whitish Blue (5000k) to much less white and more blue purple (8000k) . All other things being the same 5000k will be brighter than 8000k

@Spirited_Driver 5 жыл бұрын

Nice vid man! Although some may argue that there are various lux output ratings for the various types, the relitive comparison seems pretty clear!

@seropserop 6 жыл бұрын

It all depends on what LED you use.. they vary greatly.. the one you got was as shitty as you can possibly find.. also a 55w hid will always kill every other option

@UNEEK_LOGIK 6 жыл бұрын

My Eyeeeesssss!!!!...

@photondebuger45 6 жыл бұрын

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@boostedmaniac 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting. Very informative.

@williamtsol636 6 жыл бұрын

Great job on the test !! Thanks man !

@iPervy 6 жыл бұрын

Always go with stock halogen since I feel bad blinding people with the other bulbs haha.

@JeffDeWitt 6 жыл бұрын

On my cars with sealed beams I've been running Sylvania high output halogen's since forever. The difference is light is very noticable, no one flashes their lights at me unless I forget and leave the brights on, and I've never had any trouble with them... well except for one dark, foggy night on the Blue Ridge Parkway where the lights on my Studebaker pickup went out. That's when I found out they draw more current than the stock lights and it popped the breaker. I added a relay and there were no further problems.

@coffeesnob1973 6 жыл бұрын

HID"S all ways work better in projector headlight. LED's don't work well .

@fuadbushahad 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Eric very great comparison keep it up

@edwin9859 Жыл бұрын

Like your videos and curiosity, thank you for making them.What about life span , which last the longest?

@MrSlowestD16 6 жыл бұрын

How the heck did the halogens and LED's @ 9 feet come out to 3,951 and 2,704, yet the HID's came out to 140,000 lux? Such a large difference doesn't make much sense to me. When you did the "driving at the car" test, the results were much closer & reasonable.

@VxO4fame 6 жыл бұрын

tbh testing it just from 9 feet away makes no sense what so ever in the first place. He confused it. Even 10k Lux would be a lot. The Smartphone isnt really the right way to do such a test. And its obvious that he bought a cheap LED kit for that car.

@StevenCliff 6 жыл бұрын

I think it's actually meant to be 14,000 lux but the app can't fit a 5 digit number on screen.

@ComandanteJ 6 жыл бұрын

Most likely.

@ikbendusan 6 жыл бұрын

2000 lux is twice as bright as 1000 lux given that you're illuminating the same area: 1 lm = 1 cd ⋅ sr -> 1 lux = 1 lm/m²

@Sky1 4 жыл бұрын

Hate those turds driving their lifted trucks on the highway with aftermarket bulb installed HID FOGS, HEADLIGHTS and OFF ROAD lights all on running behind me.

@williammares21 4 жыл бұрын

Sky1 drive a 4miles below the speed limit and they will get frustrated and pass you up petal to the metal. easy stuff

@FinnishArmy 4 жыл бұрын

@@williammares21 Thanks, I'll do this next time. Not to annoy them of course, but to drive more safely ;)

@firebird890 Жыл бұрын

Great info my 2017 Nissan Sentra SR came factory with LED Projector headlights and it’s a noticeable difference over standard halogens

@noflooddamage154 6 жыл бұрын

Great job Eric! Keep it up!

@CelicaAutocrosser 6 жыл бұрын

Good update on the video, but still please remind people that not all projectors are created equal. Before HID lights projectors were made to internally reflect halogen bulbs. When you put in an HID bulb, in a halogen projector, it WILL BLIND PEOPLE. The housing is not meant to reflect the light output of an HID bulb as the light output is not the same a filament bulb. Please make sure that you mention that in your videos. I’ve had to research this myself as I have projectors but halogen H7 projectors. My car had an HID option and the internals are different.

@WHTMAN-ei7ik 6 жыл бұрын

CelicaAutocrosser Thank God you understand that HID bulbs are made for specifically designed Projectors and not Halogen Projectors or reflectors!!!! Someone with some common sense!

@EazyDuz18 6 жыл бұрын

not true

@CelicaAutocrosser 6 жыл бұрын

Combustion69 wow insightful response. Anyways I own a vehicle in which offered both and HID and halogen option before HID was standard. The way the light is reflected from an HID bulb in a halogen enclosure is different than an enclosure meant for HID. An arc bulb is a lot different than a halogen bulb and light comes out of them differently. Just do your homework and when you put an HID bulb on a non-hid housing, be careful not to blind people.

@edwardsteinjolt3720 5 жыл бұрын

False, many cars come with hid from factory on reflector housings, they only add a plastic shroud and call it a day, ANY reflector will bli d you if misaligned, whenever you upgrade or change your bulbs, Hids, or leds, the housing needs to be realigned to avoid blinding or glaring, an step most people skip.

@PNWTone 5 жыл бұрын

LED for sure. Best light while being kind to other drivers

@superdutyzack 5 жыл бұрын

WashingTone incorrect, all depends on the housing and if you level it correctly.

@tonystefanowitz9493 4 жыл бұрын

SuperDuty Zack 9

@DavidPruitt 6 жыл бұрын

Just gonna say that this video clearly shows why you need to have the correct focusing elements for your bulbs. These are for HID bulbs. With the LEDs and Halogens the hotspots are in a different place, the cutoff isn't as clean, and the spread is different. All of those things make a huge difference on how much you actually see when driving down the road. Much better video