At those prices, you gotta wonder what Eero and Nest are sending back to their motherships.
@rogueshadowblade Жыл бұрын
Need more reviews like these. Testing one of the most important aspect of a router which is its performance. Very thorough going through each frequency instead of just generalizing how well it performs.
@adxzkj6046 Жыл бұрын
Performance isn't everything, you should also take a look at the stability of the network coz these mesh systems can occur some dropouts and disconnections, also got to be aware of some firmware updates that can end up breaking the stability of a mesh system possibly even further. So these caveats must also be taken into consideration over a certain period of time, rather then just taking a look at singular day of testing.
@dryii Жыл бұрын
I have the Asus ZenWifi Pro ET12 and have not been disappointed. Happy to see it did well in your testing.
@8080EMike Жыл бұрын
Great review! Would be "fun" to revisit in 3-6months after x amount of firmware upgrade to see how have been able to improve in the categories you tested. Also it could be interesting to see some of these results if you played around with placement of your router (different angles on same spot), to see how it affects attennas. But big thumbs up from Denmark for your great work
@trippplefive Жыл бұрын
definitely need long term testing on these expensive routers. it's nice that they're fast, but what's the point if they can't maintain a constant connection and keep crashing? i've learned my lesson.
@yomom4281 Жыл бұрын
@@trippplefivewhich one did u use ?
@Olivervw8 ай бұрын
@@trippplefiveexactly
@billc9266 Жыл бұрын
Chris, old country boy from the southwest here. I love tech and I love to watch your videos. You not only deliver great reviews that are useful, but your whole personality and delivery is really enjoyable to watch and learn! May I ask one small question you might get asked a lot? Almost everything I have that is IoT (not TV's or receivers), like camera's, TP-Link switches, smart lights, even my CNC in the shop outside, all require 2.4GHz (my house is only 1700sf and the shop would be 30 feet through 2 walls). It looked like the TP-Link system and the ASUS systems were the best for this. That's what I need the most to keep these things working, especially the TP-Link switches outside. Can I ask your input on these? Regardless if you have time to answer, thank you Chris and God Bless! Keep up the awesome videos!
@TimmyM Жыл бұрын
Finally, some good independent advice without all the sponsorship nonsense. Thank you so much!
@cinderman10010 ай бұрын
Thankyou for taking time to make this video, it was by far the most useful video I've seen on this subject for my buying decision!
@SJsRedemption Жыл бұрын
I bought Asus last year because of your reviews. Very informative. Keep doing your thing bro 👍🏾
@BlaqViper Жыл бұрын
An absolutely excellent review! Anything less than two 2.5Gbps ports for internet service and backhaul is like putting regular gas in a Bugatti.
@youtubevanced4900 Жыл бұрын
Except most of us can't even buy a Bugatti. The best available is a shitty old Datsun 120Y. So premium fuel would just be a waste.
@BlaqViper Жыл бұрын
@@youtubevanced4900 🤣😂 I like that analogy…and very true.
@wesfishcare Жыл бұрын
Looks like a few of your 2.4 GHz graphs were mixed up, but great video! Amazing amount of info all in one place
@TerryLeeWhite Жыл бұрын
Great job as usual! Can’t wait to see you review the top Access Points for pros.
@adampreiser Жыл бұрын
Wow, the effort to make a video like this is nuts. Thanks!
@HomesteadingGeek Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Chris,they are upgrading my area to fiber optic so I was actually researching this exact topic.
@VectorRoll Жыл бұрын
I have been needing to get a Mesh WiFi system and these have all been ones I have been watching. Your info here on them will definitely help me in choosing which I may decide to get.
@trooper13488 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this! It was a huge help to me deciding on which network to set up, we went with the Eero & we love it! No WiFi dead depots in the house & it increased our overall speed two fold!
@FastRedPonyCar Жыл бұрын
I did a similar test back during covid when my wife and I were WFH and her office was on the other side of the house as our main modem/router. The ASUS AXE11000 absolutely crushed every other high end wifi6/E system I purchased. The Amlifi Alien was really good but severely lacking in features vs the ASUS and can't easily add another mesh unit. The AX11000 was suprisingly a dud which I couldn't figure out given how it looked very similar and has same number of antennas as the AXE11000. The real bang for buck hero though was the ASUS AX86U. Didn't have the distance of the AXE11000 but at a fraction of the price and still super fast 6E speeds, it makes for a great mesh node if you have the AXE11000 or 16000.
@TripleAAA118 ай бұрын
I work for fiber company and i always recommend the eero for residential use, best bang for your buck and great range it is even great for small businesses most recent devices will connect with ease
@dhservers Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, great work as usual. It might be helpful to put a chart up comparing last year's or oldeer winners against these--is it worth upgrading kind of question for some of us.
@inhaleexhale Жыл бұрын
Honestly I want to see in-depth reviews of these brands including how their apps work and ease of use, and feature set.
@VectorRoll Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up. For the 2.4Ghz chart for the Deco you put up the one for the Eero Pro in its place by mistake. Also likewise for the Linksys Atlas you you have the Deco's 2.4Ghz chart for it. :P
@chriswright8074 Жыл бұрын
Isn't 2.4 limit to 100 idk see how he gotten over that
@Skunkd11 ай бұрын
@@chriswright80742.4 is not limited to 100.
@B4dBuy Жыл бұрын
What about a video about solo Wifi devices as in your video a couple of years ago: Wifi 6 Gaming Router Shootout - The Best Gaming Routers (Netgear, Asus TP-Link, & More) ? Would be really good to get an updated list.
@LifeOfaMatt10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the awesome review! I'm between the Orbi and Deco.
@billrea4841 Жыл бұрын
Great timing. My existing router is getting flaky and will need to be replaced this year. Mesh is the way to go for my home.
@garryhammond3117 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris - So much new technology here now, and coming up! - Cheers!
@markjones2038 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I've tried half of these and Orbi is still the best. I have the Orbi 860 and cover over 6000 Sq ft and it's flawless. Nothing intermittent. I can go 2 houses down and still have wifi (though weak) on my iPhone. Its bulky and ugly but it's performed the best and handles the most components. I should say I have 3 satellites off the router as well.
@vishanagarwal Жыл бұрын
Hey Chris !! It's a very informative video, but I guess everyone missed out on one thing that you mixed up the TP Link 2.4 Ghz result with Amazon Eero and Linksys Atlas 2.4 Ghz results with Tp Link Deco.
@dankelley9361 Жыл бұрын
Excellent information to help out with that new router hunting job. I’d like to see the same testing done for those users that can get away with a 1 router, non mesh setup.
@shadow.banned Жыл бұрын
That Google one looks so funny. Like an ostrich egg.
@fredricksaunders7447 Жыл бұрын
hey chris what an incredible mesh router review. I just purchased the tp-link deco 75 and i'll install it tomorrow. I am interested with how this systems connects to my cisco switch and other systems---i will find out....
@matthewshelton1403 Жыл бұрын
Has anybody ever told you that you sound like E-40? Such a soothing voice. The entire time I was enjoying your video I felt like the narrator was E-40.
@ChrisMajestic Жыл бұрын
Will smith Yes. E-40 is a new one 😂😂
@user-di3ry1cv9y10 ай бұрын
What an amazing coverage, thank you so much Chris! The eero pro 6e is kind of where I'm at with my budget. I'm wandering if you had a chance to also look at the deco xe75. Its price is comparable to the eero. I'm curious about how they'd fare up in speed at the mesh access point.
@MrEminencio4 ай бұрын
1500 VS 400 dollars, im Happy with Google, its enough
@johnathannelson1386 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work on this but, unfortunately, my experience was different from yours. Purchased both the Orbi RBKE963 and your best overall, TP-Link Deco XE200. The performance was comparable within 10ft but as I ranged away to the known trouble spots in my home (very familiar with them since we have lived here 23 years) the TP-Link could not keep up. Also, my iOT devices definitely preferred the NETGEAR over the TP-Link. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
@agps4418 Жыл бұрын
i was told these network companies have their own "secret recipes" in their products.. maybe that's it 🤷♂
@CeicelRockMonster Жыл бұрын
It would have been nice had you compared user interfaces with each ones you weren’t specific on that aspect of each router as a parent I’d be interested in the parental controls etc
@boondockmutiny99559 ай бұрын
I tested one of the ASUS mesh systems, rotating the main router just a little gave me a huge jump in speeds in my garage
@jasoncoyle4871 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Chris! Well done.
@cmathieu Жыл бұрын
Awesome review Chris :) Besides the Linksys Atlas which other mesh systems supports separate SSIDs for the 2.4, 5 & 6 Ghz bands in your testing? This is specially important for older 2.4 Ghz devices that don't play nice with a single SSID that has both 2.4 & 5 Ghz bands
@llengford Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the best budget Wi-Fi 6E router with the best options for hacking, you would have a very popular video, your KZfaq channel would really grow... Thanks for the info. Nice video!
@onlyzach1 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Appreciate all the work. Do any of these let you setup a VPN on it and assign certain devices to them?
@ThomMurphy Жыл бұрын
Yes, Asus does for sure. Maybe others do as well.
@jimmyfox231 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this time of year from you! Love the channel. I’m looking to update my Wi-Fi from my eero pro 2nd gen, as I just updated to gigabit ethernet. I’m trying to decide on a new mesh system. Looking at these 2.4 ghz speeds and not having any 6e devices, should I stick with a Wi-Fi 6 router system and save some money? I will have a wired backhaul between each router in a 2200 sq ft ranch and plan to have roughly 80 devices connected in my smart home. I was thinking about going with the Asus pro but thinking I may not need it now. Any input would be appreciated.
@SooksVI10 ай бұрын
The Deco XE200 uses auto sensing ports. You don't have to use the 10Gb port for internet, so you can decide to use it for something else like a NAS server.
@07GSXR1G Жыл бұрын
Awesome work
@dhservers Жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris, it seemed to me that the dialogue and the charts being displayed were mismatched, making the video confusing. After several months, I would hope you would have fixed this. It's nice to get glowing reviews, but ...
@RVSquaredSteve Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT JOB!!!! Thank you for all this work!
@taggerung8904 ай бұрын
Thabk you for doing these detailed tests!
@kaneserver Жыл бұрын
How many devices can these systems handle and are they good for home full of ioT devices. I can't cannot connect some of my smartphone devices unless I can be sure my phone is on 2.4ghz does that rule out nest and eero?
@CotDamn85 Жыл бұрын
just curious, did you use just one unit from each of these systems for these tests? Also did you do any testing using the wired backhaul (for those that were capable)?
@dankelly10 ай бұрын
Thanks! This is an amazing comparison!
@a.d.c7941 Жыл бұрын
Im hearing and reading that Deco is having security issues. Any word on this?
@hectoralicea1023 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. You definitely made my decision a lot easier.
@rodneyplenty2680 Жыл бұрын
Chris, during your testing did you use wired back haul or wireless?
@cooldadgets5 ай бұрын
This was so helpful, thank you!
@scott3715 Жыл бұрын
Cant wait for the Epson LS 12000 review!
@nchr77822 ай бұрын
great video, thanks for the help
@adameccleston5547 ай бұрын
Great video Chris, which of these systems will not charge for updates or security coverage?
@mrmosk20117 ай бұрын
Excellent review!
@scottschaus4619 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review :) Does the TP-Link configuration app and web interface to the router allow separating the 3 bands into 3 networks? I assume “yes” since you showed speed data from all 3 bands. Thanks!
@hailcesar5229 Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe you could have 3 separate networks simultaneously, but you are allowed to turn off channels.
@rodneyturnerphoto Жыл бұрын
Great review. Quick observation…some of the slide were titled wrong. You were talking about one brand and showing another brand’s slide. Primarily on the 2.4 charts.
@seandavis252010 ай бұрын
Great review.. thanks for the info... very helpful and no fluff
@lancesedevie5487 ай бұрын
Deco app security issues 😳???
@Vandonj Жыл бұрын
Great video and very insightful in my research for a new router but what modem are you using?
@e4tmonkieshyt Жыл бұрын
I had issues with the Linksys Altas 6E max and worked with Linksys for months to try and fix the issues. After 6+ months they asked me to return the units for a refund as their engineers could not figure out how to fix the issue. Issue was that the nodes tend to send a invalid ip address to my devices. This was fixed by a reboot of the system but would comeback in a day to a week. Also kept having issues with nodes connecting to the parent node instead of the closest which cause speeds to dramatically go down even when manually setting each node to connect to the closest node. Not sure if Linksys was able to fix this or not.
@taylorchapmanjr918210 ай бұрын
I have the exact same issue on Linksys AX4000's; was hoping they fixed it on the 6E version :(
@engenius4 ай бұрын
Great video try something from our Fit line!!!
@Psalm133KJV Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video for best combo routers?
@mackie2kАй бұрын
great video, but at 7:35 you have the wrong title for the hardware, you show Amazon Eero instead of TP Link, and on the Linksys system you have the TP link graphic.....on all the 2.4ghz slides it's wrong pretty much
@ChrisMajesticАй бұрын
Yeah putting this together was a nightmare and I somehow screwed that up. Good catch.
@browney89 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, think i'll pickup the eero once it drops down to its sale price of £279.99 (twin)
@Fever198411 ай бұрын
it would be interesting to see the video again but with a ethernet backhaul. I think the Asus would be best over all as with that. Also you showed the eero results for the tp-link 2.4gz :)
@etjulien Жыл бұрын
And now it's time for WiFi 7.
@StickyGeko4 ай бұрын
1gb up and down, wireless back haul. Need to reach the loft. Current config is deco m5, but only get about 100mb atm. Which new one to get
@4givenoxygenbarez Жыл бұрын
Question.. if my ISP modem/router is only dual band capable, will i still be able to use 6.0Ghz as a backhaul?
@blakegodwin97 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@deathblade909 Жыл бұрын
Honestly tplink always good for the price
@AdrianO.10 ай бұрын
Did he mention what his home Internet is that he's paying for? I think I missed it. It would help to get a base lane and % performance to what I should be expecting based on my speeds
@taylorchapmanjr918210 ай бұрын
He setup a dedicated Speed Test Server on his network, so his testing took the internet out of the equation. This lets you see how the throughput is impacted by various distances, obstructions and mesh loss independent of an internet bottleneck. The loss % can be applied to where your internet bottleneck is located: NIC, Modem, DSP, or Internet Target. IE, if you pay for multi-gig internet, but your pc nic is only 1G; the max speed will be 1G. Distance Testing: End Point > Base Node > Speed Test Server Mesh Access Point: End Point > Child Node > Base Node > Speed Test Server. I think he had the meshed Child Nodes connected via Wireless Backhaul, otherwise the Orbi and ASUS 2.5G Wired Backhaul would have blown the others away since they would be limited to 1G physical ports.
@AdrianO.10 ай бұрын
@@taylorchapmanjr9182 I see, thanks.
@zenvent Жыл бұрын
Is $1000 going to be the new starting price of home routers jeeze
@wazkayani Жыл бұрын
How good are these units without the wired backhaul?
@harvindersingh2310 ай бұрын
7:36 there is an error. It's supposed to be TP-Link xe200 2.4ghz results but it's showing Amazon eero results
@charleshallbert69159 ай бұрын
Great presentation. Thanks…..
@subsonicbass Жыл бұрын
Good info, tried the Asus and Linksys options and both got out performed by a single Netgear Nighthawk at every frequency and range! Just wish it didn’t look like a stupid crab lol
@carmelo9313 Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother I was on the fence about Asus and tp link. I tried the Google one it was terrible for me. I ended up getting tp link going to set it up soon
@taylorchapmanjr918210 ай бұрын
I'm debating between the same 2 options; how is the TP-Link working for you? I currently have a Linksys MX4000 series, but have to reset it almost daily now.
@natemekis3959 Жыл бұрын
Asus allows 2.4 and 5ghz to be separated. I find this is a necessity if you have any 2.4 only devices. Other “smart” systems will send the 5ghz signal to your 2.4 device and they will never connect.
@ChuckD-lu5mb11 ай бұрын
Hey Chris awesome video man and thank you. One question please: I purchased the Motorola Q14 Wifi Mesh Router. I connected the first thru the moto sync app with out any hiccups. The second one I want to place it upstairs but I can't figure it out. My Xfinity modem is on the first floor of the house and the number one Motorola Q14 is connected via Ethernet Cable with no problem. Again, how can I connect second router without the Ethernet Cable? Thank you. Cheers From Sunny Warm Puerto Rico
@jackwhite6030 Жыл бұрын
He's the man....
@r8gingbull5 ай бұрын
But nobody says that you can't change channels. Only automatically on deco
@MrModel--CAPTURED-ON-FILM Жыл бұрын
Which would be best if your home suffers a brief power outage? Which re-connects immediately and the most easily?
@traderalex1 Жыл бұрын
are you sure you had the speed right for the Linksys Max 6E? There website and TS advises this model is only AXE8400, not AXE11000. Would this make much a difference for a 3-level home?
@ronm6585 Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@Bm99986 Жыл бұрын
Hey, not sure if you knew this but when you are talking about the Linksys, the chart says deco on top...?
@BonzyVegasCraps Жыл бұрын
I totally watched the video. But I still wonder what would be the best when I have three floors of oddly shaped house...Not alot of places to put access points. Thoughts? Is 4 access points too many? I have to keep the main router in the basement.
@ChrisMajestic Жыл бұрын
I tell most people to start our small with a 2 pack. Then add more as necessary. If you have a dead zone place another access point nearby to cover that area.
@creole75 Жыл бұрын
They all need more color options. White seems to be the most common or only option and that doesn't go well with all home decor/furniture. At least have white AND black if not anything else. And why did nest choose that gloss finish 🤦🏽♂️ ????
@ep0ccalyp358 Жыл бұрын
I recently upgraded my Spectrum internet to 1 GIG and i got the Spectrum wifi 6E router. The wireless speeds was decent at over 500mbps. Only problem my 2.4ghz devices e.g. security sensors, cameras, dimmers, switches and computers/laptops with Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC couldn't recognize the SSID network. This was irrigating because I spoke to Spectrum and they wont let me get the old router in which all of my smart home devices worked plus the speeds was a decent 400mbps.
@taylorchapmanjr918210 ай бұрын
That happened recently to my friend. They contacted Spectrum Support who put her 6E Router into a temporary internal mode which allowed her 2.4 GHz devices to connect. I believe the router reverted (or was placed) back to it's "normal" operating mode after a few hours (24?). She hasn't had any issues with her existing 2.4 GHz devices since connected. I advised her to insure any new IoT devices are 5G compatible. I know this is anecdotal, but I wanted to let you and others know that Spectrum Support should be able to assist.
@ep0ccalyp3589 ай бұрын
@@taylorchapmanjr9182 Thank you for this reply. I'll call Spectrum
@jacobyfenner9 ай бұрын
Are you going to review the Netgear 970 wifi system?
@PJ-ee5mc Жыл бұрын
Do I have to put my ISP modem/router in bridge mode to use these, or in particular, the Linksys Mx5300 as my router? Nobody seems to mention this in reviews but I read about it elsewhere and I'm still not sure how to set this up for the best results.
@congo1981 Жыл бұрын
Changing my orbi to an eero system due to the amazon eco system.
@jesmpk2298 Жыл бұрын
Chirs most of my IOT devices run only on 2.4Ghz. What is the benefit of getting a mesh over keeping my current AC 1900 router and range extenders? My devices have always had connectivity issues. Is getting the ASUS worth it for me? Does the TP Link have 2FA for remote log in?
@jimmymcgill5572 Жыл бұрын
Do you need to buy a separate modem for all of these to work? I currently have a Cox modem/router all in 1
@Imprisoned1995 Жыл бұрын
How would you compare these systems to the alien? I know it's only 6 and not 6e, but are any of these worth buying if you have that system?
@ScottHolmanTV Жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive review. thank you. How far did you have the remote mesh unit away from the base unit? I currently use a Nest WiFi mesh with the remote mesh unit 30m (98ft) in direct line of sight, from the base unit. It works, most of the the time. Which of these products would be most suitable for me?
@MrBlincster11 ай бұрын
@9:30 its says TPlink in picture...
@paulsim7589 Жыл бұрын
good stuff
@rustman911 Жыл бұрын
Question.....maybe you said and I missed it, but did you have any of these wired-backhauled for your test or was it all wireless?
@ChrisMajestic Жыл бұрын
The tests with with wireless backhaul. Wired backhaul speeds were the same as the speeds from the main router.