High Quality Speed Painting! Grisaille + GW Contrast Hack
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@nativeenglishpaul2836 2 жыл бұрын
They look amazing even just in black and white
@gnol4688 2 жыл бұрын
And that’s the problem 😂 I fail in the first step 😂
@slaynnmortis2195 Жыл бұрын
@@gnol4688 yes me too! My white is like "too much pigment" or "Drink, this is water now".
@RedMatter25 Жыл бұрын
Found this while looking for reference for my Cheesestealer Cult, and holy shit yeah, this man's shading is gorgeous
@del132 2 жыл бұрын
I watch other painters content to get tips and tricks, but I watch Marco Frisoni to learn how to paint.
@leslamers1633 2 жыл бұрын
The hobby community: Look! Completely new awesome technique! Never seen before!! Slapchop! Paint your minis in no time! Marco: Hello guys! Today we will paint using Grisalle, a classic academic approach to comprehensive usage of value and volumes. Love your work Marco. Keep the paint flowing.
@tomdanvers 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! That whole 'slap chop is a great new thing' has been grinding my gears :D
@stewartfrancis9188 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomdanvers omg same
@sirbobulous 2 жыл бұрын
@@stewartfrancis9188 Being fair Rob (of SlapChop fame) knows it's not new. He's just leaning into 'the bit' and is better at marketing than most people. He knows the power of a catchy name!
@fallenweeble7453 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirbobulous imo, leaning into 'the bit' for clicks and likes is even worse. Especially because it's taking a centuries old idea and trying to pass it off as your own.
@sirbobulous 2 жыл бұрын
@@fallenweeble7453 But he doesn't? In the first 5 mins of his video he points to other people using drybrush base layers+contrasts (epic duck studios, tale of painters) and suggests people check those out. He's not claiming some great invention. He's just sharing the technique in a way packaged for people who want to speed paint an army with the minimum technical ability.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in between two big workshops and these are precisely the main topics I'm bringing "on tour" these days, so this video is part an anchor for old and new students, a video reference/preview of the workflow and its general mindset, and part me stretching and exercising to be ready for this weekend's event :D Enjoy!
@thealgorerhythm9379 2 жыл бұрын
Was hoping to make it to your Dublin workshop, Marco, but will be away that weekend. Definitely coming to the next one! Hope you have fun 😁
@NightfallTH 2 жыл бұрын
Where may I find more information on your upcoming workshops? Any plans for Germany or Denmark/Sweden?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM 2 жыл бұрын
@@NightfallTH I regularly spam news of the upcoming events on all my socials! Your timing is great because there's something in the planning phase both for Germany and Denmark 😉😉😉
@NightfallTH 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM awesome, looking forward to it :))
@samuelwood3804 Жыл бұрын
You are the best miniature painting artist on KZfaq.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Жыл бұрын
😁😊😁😘😘😘
@dekai7992 2 жыл бұрын
I love this so much! One side effect is that this approach can also allow you to practice NMM in a safe manner, as, in the greyscale stage, you can focus entirely on the values and contrast alone, without the additional complexities of chromatic tones. That way, something as complex as NMM is broken down into smaller chunks of mental load and becomes much easier to manage for beginners. Excellent stuff, as always!
@8BitLife69 2 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of this method with grisaille. So awesome.
@jammywesty91 2 жыл бұрын
When I first got into the hobby circa 2001, there was a guy at my local shop everyone referred to as 'Son of Milkman'. 10 year old me had no idea why that was funny but I did know the guy was a wizard. I was stuck in the realm of base coat > layer > highlight; I hadn't even graduated to using washes. He took the old application of painting with inks and "boosted" them by putting his values down first. It blew my tiny prepubescent brain, how quickly he could build up so much contrast in so few steps. A couple of years ago, I returned to the hobby and underpainting and undershading are now common practice. I still think about that bloke and how he elevated what I thought was possible when painting little toy soldiers. Your videos give me the same vibes as watching him all those years ago. Your dad's not a milkman is he?
@wvjeepguy8178 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you know, but if you are just doing a bunch of models, you can prime first with black, then use a white primer and spray from above the model to do a similar effect quickly. Not as high quality, but it's ok for doing a lot of models at one time.
@darkside2329 Жыл бұрын
Just finished priming and zenithil highlighting an entire set of monster for a game. Now I feel like I should go strip them all and do it this way. Man. Learned so much here today!
@nanoguitar88 2 жыл бұрын
You are the best Marco
@totalwar69 5 ай бұрын
Marco is the true artist from the mini painting community
@Galzag Жыл бұрын
I can't belive what I've just seen! I don't really like painting at all but you are true inspiration to do that anyways :)
@kewlpackstudios 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Great demo and explanation. Thanks much, Marco.
@JakeDogg-RIP 2 жыл бұрын
Good boy Marco!! 🐶
@MarcoFrisoniNJM 2 жыл бұрын
😁😆😁😘
@Quaaludio Жыл бұрын
Amazing. The greyscale and the full color are both so beautiful but in completely unique ways. Well done!
@davidivarsson6264 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. Again. Keep it up Marco, your contribution to the community with regards to teaching the understanding of effectful painting processes is unmatched!
@ParvizalthePainter 2 жыл бұрын
What a legend!!! So cool can't wait to try this out!!
@nyverdaletabletop1674 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome I was Just starting to pratice the slab job technique so I cant wait for this video!
@Misosgameroom 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite videos yet!
@letsplaywiththestapsmon5433 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. It looks great and it is done so easily 😳
@Dgenz24 Жыл бұрын
Stunning. I have never seen this technique before and I can’t wait to try it. Thanks for sharing your talent!!
@lukemulholland4476 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing will certainly try out the sketch lines to highlight before. The models in just the black and white looked awesome.
@terrynicholls2975 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, Marco!
@Moxiltws 2 жыл бұрын
I'm comfortable now with the all 'black undercoat + zenithal white ink + black oil wash > make up sponge + acrylic white drybrushing' grisaille technique but this one is far superior. I'm gonna try this white gouache application tomorow! (Every time you publish a new video, I buy some paint the next day, what an odd coincidence :D )
@jimihaze7085 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely have to try this technique!! Thanks for the awesome video Marco!
@danielschwarze781 2 жыл бұрын
As always: highly inspirational. I immediately painted my Oldhammer Quest Heroes en gresaille, albeit not as speedy or good as you. Still highly enjoyable. I did not know how I wanted to paint them and this technique allows you to focus solely on light and texture. Millie Gracie!
@RenierBanninga 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic as always.
@florianpal9633 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Thanks for the lesson in Light and control:D
@WillCalwell 2 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely going to try this.
@bots2beasts 2 жыл бұрын
I like teh way this technique turned out. I'll give it a shot. Thanks for sharing.
@Vertrucio 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I was thinking this old painting method would work with glaze mediums and contrasts. So great to see you show it works.
@dfw_sleepypillz1007 2 жыл бұрын
Taking this method to my table tonight, thanks for always being inspiring. My next goals are trying to develop such interesting color pallets as you do - and bring more visual interest to my models. Rock on Marco, I hope to catch one of your classes at some point in time.
@baphomet_FIN 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings and respect from Finland! To my eyes these are the most exciting, imaginative and true cartoon fantasy-like Skavens I’ve ever seen. Superb job, and just blows my mind you did this all in 5 hours. Maestro!
@ateliergallez7594 2 жыл бұрын
this was a great video, I will try this out ! thank you Marco !
@aletaniacklay9775 2 жыл бұрын
I take way too long to be able to realistically paint bulk batches of minis. This should help me a lot!!! I can't wait to try this technique! Thank you so much for the great tutorial and expert tips!
@Dooxyftw 3 ай бұрын
I had no clue what Grisaille was, then i asked you on stream and you told me a bit. I google it and was like wtf... dude why did i not look in to it sooner.... made alot of sence when i listen to art teacher to youtube in my home languish.
@sebastiendesautels8567 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! This is something I feel I can do to upgrade my paint jobs :) Thank you :)
@thibaultmarhem537 2 жыл бұрын
Love the process, gonna give it a try :)
@MacKayVer40k 2 жыл бұрын
God I so hope I can make it to at least one of your mind blowing classes! You are an inspiration ❤️
@draadhaai 2 жыл бұрын
Super content once more Marco! I'm going to def. try this approach. So far I only used black with either a smooth white or a drybrushed white. Spending more time on the black and white sketch makes more sense now I've seen it demonstrated.
@triisgaard2699 Ай бұрын
6:10 "Yeah, let me just casually dot the eyes while I'm casually defining the light"
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😉😘
@JoshNoodleSoup 2 жыл бұрын
great video. I love the way you use contrast paints (mixing, adding retarders, etc.)
@sithmech3803 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Marco, it was really great for myself, son and wife to meet you at the Bad Moon Cafe two weeks ago. Loved this video, well all of the NJM videos to be honest, keep 'em coming!
@incursor88 Жыл бұрын
Slapchop 🎉
@ELtaco37 Жыл бұрын
yeee
@groovylikewhoa 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Looking forward to trying this out. Been on my radar since your Malifaux grisaille video, but now I HAVE to try it :D
@markgnepper5636 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
@FrikisviajerosGC 2 жыл бұрын
Marco, you are an absolute master. You always blow my mind and make me want to get better at painting. I'm still a newbie (second year of miniature painting) but I want more and more. I want to try this sketching technique with a set of minis. Thank you very much from Spain!
@chaoticpainting1507 2 жыл бұрын
As always, an excellent execution of amazing technic into beautiful work... love it man!! I'll give it a go on some of my Cursed City models ive got waiting on me... just build and cleaned the entire setup... loads of plastic just waiting for paint... this will help me get through them more quickly!
@FALLINGJIGSAW 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Tilean accent... Oh and the paint job is great too
@Wijkert 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I own almost the complete line of contrast paints, I have been mixing contrast medium with artist ink (any inks really) to combine the great properties of both. It seems something that is right up your ally, Marco!
@draadhaai 2 жыл бұрын
I take this same approach (and don't have any contrast). Just mix liquitex inks with vallejo glaze medium is also a great combo.
@Wijkert 2 жыл бұрын
@@draadhaai did a test where I compared 7 different options for mixing up my own "contrast paint". The contrast medium and the glaze medium did act differently. Contrast covered more and created less highlights, glaze medium covered less and created more highlights. Both should have their uses
@73Darsh 2 жыл бұрын
Grandissimo Marco, mi trovo sempre a mio agio con il tuo stile di pittura. Questo metodo lo uso e mi piace moltissimo oltre ad essere utile per migliorare. Bravissimo
@TheCromcrom Жыл бұрын
You have an amazing style. Love your vids
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Жыл бұрын
😍😊😍 Thanks a million man!!!
@familymeeple 2 жыл бұрын
Truly stunning amazing work! Always love watching your content (though I don't often comment). Thank you for your continued dedication to the hobby and sharing. ❤️
@janjordens7343 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 👌
@christiansebine7316 2 жыл бұрын
With 1h per model that's epic cool!! I strongly wish myself 🙈
@diealot6542 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up the idea from your last grisaille Video with the Malifaux Minis and did that for a Year now. Funny to find this video when returning for more Input :D I sincerely thank you for the awesome content, it is a real game changer
@christianbellandi7428 2 жыл бұрын
Mitico Marco
@MegaDeathToaster 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Cool thing is you can use the older warcry video for the dark elf side
@MarcoFrisoniNJM 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yeah they are almost the exact same models!!! #noshame lol
@ChristianLarue 2 жыл бұрын
un bonnet en plein été, mon dieu
@bpronka 2 жыл бұрын
These look amazing, Marco! Congratulations and thanks for sharing! A couple of questions, though: How would you adapt Liquitex Inks for the job of GW's Contrast line? Just medium and retarder, too? How would you compensate for the blue undertones in most blacks when glazing over yellow paints, as they might tend towards the green side of the spectrum? I miss being able to show up at the premiere, but work's got me busy at the usual time! Hope you're doing well!
@HesteBremse 2 жыл бұрын
Super effective and clear breakdown of the main stages. That medium retarder water combo comes our very natural and approachable and fun. Always top notch content thanks a lot 🤟😉👍
@FigouzNet 2 жыл бұрын
Already put a like on this Video ! I know it will be very interesting (And Skavens are my favourites !) 😛
@warbanda 2 жыл бұрын
дуже цікава техніка. чудове відео
@Baphirok Жыл бұрын
Oh my lord. I freaking love this comicy sketchy highlighting style I NEED to learn how to do it… but where do i start?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! The best way to start is to study artworks and illustrations turned in black and white; all the visual information you need is there!
@giuseppecorino1309 2 жыл бұрын
Considering that in 2 days I'm going finally to attend the class, this video helps me to understand better the underpainting! :D in the case of inks (like Liquitex or similar) what approach would you use? I know that inks are more saturated... would you use more water and medium to dilute the inks?
@chadfontaine2717 2 жыл бұрын
Going to try this on my Zombicide set. Cant wait to give it a go. I think zombies will be a good subject for this method. Now to figure out the accompanying super cool accent ;)
@arick13 2 жыл бұрын
man i would love to see your take on a sylvaneth model.
@cm60854 2 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the grisaille painted minis, and I would love to have that the finish for my Infinity models. I don't have the brush control or precision for what you've done in this video, do you have videos dealing with how to get better at that?
@jparks6544 Жыл бұрын
This grisaille method is exactly what I've always been looking for. Are there more video lessons on your technique with this? It's such a wonderful method.
@Walboro 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna lie here, the black and white was absolutely stunning. 🖤🤍
@blackspiraldancer6 Жыл бұрын
You sold me on your style with this easy-to-follow video, Marco. Inks would work fine in the place of the contrasts for the initial staining?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Жыл бұрын
😊😁😊! Sure inks are great for this; you just need to tame them with a bit of extra dilution and maybe a drop of medium!
@chroniclesoftinybattles 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely mind blowing ! I have to admit one thing, I loved the models in black and white too haha I really have to try that grisaille. Can a noob achieve it... ? That will be interesting anyway I guess !
@Ajax-wo3gt Жыл бұрын
This is one of the coolest projects I've ever seen. I love how they turned out. How does one learn to paint in greyscale? I know, I know, practice. What I mean is what practical knowledge do I need to achieve this and where do I find it? Thank you, Marco.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Жыл бұрын
Thanks a million!!! And this is one of the best questions ever! Take any picture or cool illustration you like, turn it in black and white on your phone or pc and study how the values make all the heavy lifting 😉. Drawing books and tutorials are also super useful because drawing with pencil on paper you have to create the same kind of 3D modelled greyscale from the empty 2D white page!
@Spiraticus 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video, I’ll have to try it! It’s the perfect video for me because I’m kind of averse to using oil paints because it would be another set of products I’d have to buy, but I already have most of this, just need the retarder and gouache medium.
@kevinschwager4327 2 жыл бұрын
You are truely a, if not the, maestro. You are the same for miniature painting as Sandro Botticelli was for art in general
@HorridCross571 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Marco great content like always! Question, what kind of medium did you used? Did you use contrast medium?
@petermellors6456 2 жыл бұрын
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@Panzerkuchen 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find these models :O, they look awesome and I don't think I've ever seen these before! As always great paint job, perhaps one day you can teach me in person. If you ever decide to do a special series on making a noob a pro, I volunteer as tribute!
@Bahamutkotd Жыл бұрын
They are part of the nethermaze starter set for warhammer underworlds.
@lemonade1245 2 жыл бұрын
there is a big difference it seems in the way the gouache gets applied on the surface vs acrylic. it looks like you get a lot of unique texture and variation in opacity when you use the gouache. very interesting to see
@Moxiltws 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that too. I'm gonna get that liquitex gouache tomorow to test this technique. It's very intriguing.
@adcpowell 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched nearly all of your videos. They are truly inspirational. I wonder If you have any plans to any free hand designs. Painting designs on shields for example. Thank you for your work 👍
@marcopironti2900 2 жыл бұрын
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@alexandergunther2304 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Marco, thanks for this awesome video! I have a Question: Without contrast paints does this approach work best with inks and medium? Do I lose to much of the value dynamic using "normal" or more opaque acrylics?
@j453 Жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing some guides on painting miniatures with heavy body artist acrylics? I'm really curious how you would approach painting a mini that way.
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah absolutely! I made a big investment of Schmincke PRIMAcryl during Christmas to boost my collection of Liquitex Heavy Body so you'll see them a lot in the next future 😉
@j453 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM AWESOME can't wait!
@kevinotto93 Жыл бұрын
Sì tutto bello ma boh avendo iniziato da poco boh boh sei l'artista più completo in termini di tecniche e cazzo sei italiano 😭 folle complimenti davvero e grazie
@MestreGuilderiusLCB 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Marco, just discovered your channel, very nice ! Instant Sub ;) I use a very similaur technique that's also fast, but the results are also more "tabletop quality" and not as detailed as your (amazing) work^^ To put it simple : black primer, light grey zenithal, some accentuations on details, and finally basecoats of what fancy the models with TAP Speedpaints^^ Finished a 10 Sicarians squad in +-12hrs :) Very fast and efficient for batch-painting, and the result on the table is very satisfying :) Anyway, thanks for your video, I'll try this on my next HQs I think ;)
@lewrl1 2 жыл бұрын
If I was going to recreate this with, say, pro acrylic transparent line, would mixing with contrast medium be necessary?
@curropons8034 Жыл бұрын
Really awesome work Marco, what do you think about to prime in a mid-dark grey instead of black to get a lighter result?
@marcroberts1731 2 жыл бұрын
was the medium contrast medium from GW, or can you use acrylic matt medium from liquitex as well?
@Apprendrelapeinturesurfigurine Жыл бұрын
Hi Marco. I missed this video, only watching it today. This is definitaly a must know technic. You say you spend only 20min for each model to set up the black and white values. It seems your white is quite diluted, almost as a glaze... any tips to achieve such a quick painting with this diluted coat (I guess you need at last 2 or even 3 coats to get your white gradient) ?
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The trick is to work with different consistencies and opacities at the same time; layering full layers takes more time but if you already have an idea of the right values to use you can apply more opaque white on the upper parts and delicate, translucent touches in the lower midtones and shadows!
@Apprendrelapeinturesurfigurine Жыл бұрын
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM ok so you have a glaze consistency so that you can have translucent layers were you want and you make "stains" on purpose where you want it to be brighter ?
@paolovilla81 2 жыл бұрын
Always inspiring Marco! do you think it's possible to reach a similar result with oil paint instead of Contrast paint? I recently fell in love with oils :D
@danielschwarze781 2 жыл бұрын
Question: have You ever tried working with Aquarell paints as washes? Because I think your Oil wash workflow might work there too. Except water based and You would need to fix them with varnish.
@padfootgold9206 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else watch these and just think HOW???? I feel like it takes me an hour just to paint a boot brown sometimes lol
@queefbabe 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work as usual Marco, keen to try this out on a blood bowl team! Do you use a fluid or a gel medium when thinning the acrylic gouache?
@darkside2329 Жыл бұрын
I tried to do grisaille for the first time this weekend. Realized I am terrible at it. I think one of the most challenging parts for me is getting a good mix/consistency of the paint. Also realized that leaving black anywhere you want to see color is a horrible idea as the contrast paint loses out every time vs. black.
@rubenfloritgarcia2522 2 жыл бұрын
What about speed paints? Would they work the same way to contrast?
@breff007 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Marco, great video as usual. Lots of valuable information. Are the paints at the end of the video the liquitex acrylic gouache as well?
@blake6629 Жыл бұрын
Omg must try, wonder how it'd go at 10mm warmaster
@MarcoFrisoniNJM Жыл бұрын
It's a great way to work on really small models! Less steps and less stress on micro volumes!
@user-je4vj2yt1m 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Marco! Thanks for the great video) in our country there is no way to buy such gouache (what can replace it?
@br7693t Жыл бұрын
What medium are you using? Glaze medium so it doesn't break the pigments up?
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