Apple M3, M3 Pro & M3 Max

Apple M3, M3 Pro & M3 Max - Chip Analysis

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In-depth analysis of Apple's new 3nm chips: M3, M3 Pro and M3 Max. Silicon deep-dive, die-shot analysis and a closer look at CPU, GPU, NPU and the TSMC N3B process node.
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0:00 Intro
0:47 M3 Silicon Analysis
4:17 M3 Pro Silicon Analysis
6:26 M3 Max Silicon Analysis
8:25 Why is the M3 Pro a downgrade?
10:47 NPU deep-dive
12:16 CPU deep-dive
13:17 GPU deep-dive
14:44 GPU architecture / Apple family 9 GPU
16:22 TSMC N3B Process Node
18:44 Wrap-up

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@silverc4s146 5 ай бұрын

I watched the entire 20 minutes. As a long retired chip designer, this 90B active device world is incomprehensible, but I enjoy following anyway.

@eth_saver 5 ай бұрын

this channel is so good, idk why it doesnt have more subs, all videos are excellent

@JosPoortvliet 5 ай бұрын

Yeah it was an interesting video. I am looking forward to a deep dive on the cpu architecture! The p and e cores for 25% more transistors, what are they used for?

@MFoley-tv3zh 5 ай бұрын

Fascinating!!!

@hackerlicher889 5 ай бұрын

Can you guide me as I also aspire to be a chip designer

@jimgolab536 5 ай бұрын

Same.

@HighYield 5 ай бұрын

Sorry for the long wait, the video got longer and longer the more I worked on it... Let me know if you enjoy these (very) deep-dives, or if it's too long/detailed for you. PS: the dynamic caching doesn't have anything to do with the system memory, but it's about the on-chip GPU memory. The whole GPU seems to be complete game changer, something a lot of ppl seem to have missed. This might very well be the most advanced GPU architecture right now and it will take a while until we see it's full potential.

@MrXeuke 5 ай бұрын

thanks for your hard work!! 🙏

@giordano7703 5 ай бұрын

Love these deep dive videos!

@EmreHepsag 5 ай бұрын

I would love deep dive long detailed video. Great job!

@LucianoBelotto 5 ай бұрын

I enjoyed it, thank you! Many KZfaq videos reviewing the M3, but no other video I found like this one

@debojitmandal8670 5 ай бұрын

But how come it's still not as good as an rtx 4090 or even 4080 minus the power draw plus i thought ray tracing by nvidia was a major architectural innovation. Plus if nvidia already did this minus implementing with the registers it just means nvidia had this before apple

@DeadCatX2 5 ай бұрын

As an embedded and FPGA engineer, CPU design like this has always felt like the major leagues. Watching this video must feel to me like watching a sports game with good color commentary feels to a typical American. Thank you for producing this

@yoomy_gums 5 ай бұрын

As an autodidactic hardware designer. I feel related, why the transistor count increases on the cores on next models? what new is implemented? how is everything working in harmony? how it schedule tasks to all parts on the computer without struggling. Me and everyone else are NOT capable to completely understand how this works. An engineer involved on Apple knows way better than us, but still it’s almost impossible that he know all of this, so insane. That’s what I think that these machines are miracles, almost magical! but actually it’s the hard work of many incredibly smart people. So almost all is out of my ligue, despite the 4 years of researching that I dedicated to the topic. 🤯

@mikafoxx2717 4 ай бұрын

@@yoomy_gumsYou basically have to start with the history of architecture, and the ways they improved on the previous generation, like say the 486 vs pentium vs pentium pro. Yes, these are arm, but these days instruction sets make far less difference than the architecture fundamentals.

@NothingXemnas 3 ай бұрын

Same. I love all the intricacies of GPUs and CPUs, even ones with included graphics in the same die, as Intel and AMD still do in some chips. But massive dies with everything embedded into it (REALLY making "System on a Chip" mean what it says) is just incredible. Of course there is more wasted material (making such massive single dies also means more dies having defects), but it is still such a respectful "balls to the wall" approach! This is why the Snapdragon X Elite is so exciting to me!

@starkead3087 Ай бұрын

@@yoomy_gums I guess the transistor count increased into the m3 with the ray tracing

@yyyy-uv3po 3 күн бұрын

@@yoomy_gums "why the transistor count increases on the cores on next models" For starters, they went from ARM-v8.5 to ARM-v8.6. It also depends on which extensions they actually implement.

@c11p 22 күн бұрын

Easily the most informative M3 breakdown. Kudos.

@zkeltonETH 5 ай бұрын

Still watching and man, these deep dives are so fascinating to learn more about silicon design and engineering in our current era. Absolutely amazing work!

@denumerable 5 ай бұрын

Here with you. Very fascinating.

@DevDunkStudio 5 ай бұрын

I'm watching all the way through :p

@Fractal_32 5 ай бұрын

Who wouldn't watch your entire breakdown of apples silicon? Personally I enjoy how this channel focuses on the less talked about features of hardware design, it really makes you understand how much a company can care or not about a product they are launching into the market. Keep up the great work, I cannot wait to watch more of these breakdowns in the future!

@jsl8461 5 ай бұрын

Based on benchmark tests, the M3 Pro chip doesn't suck the way its specs on paper would suggest (ie, it has a lower transistor count, lower P-core count, and 1 less GPU count than M2 Pro). It performs similarly to the M2 Pro chip on most tests (on a few tests it performs modestly better), but it seems to use a lot less power as the M3 Pro laptop has a significantly better battery life even with its 100 nit brighter display. Market segmentation is a consideration but it looks like Apple actually delivered a product that is as performant (and in some ways better) than the previous generation while offering significantly better efficiency at the same time. Quite different from the M3 chip, where most of the improvements over M2 seem to be on performance rather than efficiency.

@Frytech 5 ай бұрын

I'm certainly watching your every video till the end! Just recently discovered your channel and it's a godsend in terms of amazing in-depth explanations of how exactly all those performances and features are achieved and realized on the silicon level! I've always wanted for someone to explain things like that, like on a truly low level - in terms of hardware - literally talking about transistor counts and how it's all allocated on a chip, designed, interconnected, etc. Thank you so so much for what you're doing on this channel! Keep these amazing videos coming!

@gimmedaloot754 5 ай бұрын

Love these long deep dive videos. When executed well they provide extraordinary value. Time is valuable and this video did not disappoint. Keep up the great work!

@ikarosav 5 ай бұрын

Great video I was really looking forward to this one! On the "Dynamic Caching" in the new shader core (aka. register file + image block + group shared = L1). You've watched Apple's video already so I'll try to add some additional practical context to why it's important: It doesn't require new shaders to be written, old shaders are forward-compatible with taking advantage of this feature, however most shaders were indeed written with the limitations that came before it, thus the big advantage would only be felt on shaders that had low occupancy previously and can now maybe have higher occupancy. A lot of shaders are written with say reading a bunch of buffers, and reading a bunch of textures at -some point- typically early, and at this point they'll greatly benefit from high occupancy to hide latency and avoid stalling. But typically, later in the shader, you do a bunch of math that require -a lot of registers- for a short time, and this spike in register count in the old method required that the whole shader demand many registers the whole time, even though for fetching buffers and textures it only needs enough to store the read results in just then. So the benefit here is that you get to have low register pressure when you need high occupancy early in a shader to hide memory latency, and later during "just math" where you don't need occupancy to saturate the math you can now go nuts with registers. Having the freedom to use many registers can make for better algorithms that can take advantage of large amounts of registers without worrying about hurting memory latency in another part. It also provides freedom, you don't have to spend a lot of optimization time getting a magical register count, the shader core does it for you (almost, you still need to make sure you don't need many registers at the time of doing these memory reads), and most importantly, you can now make dynamically branching uber shaders that don't trash your register file usage! Previously we've always had to make many shader variants for specialized cases and compile them either at build or run-time, because a huge shader with tons of branches would have register pressure as bad as the worst case "everything is on" scenario, well now the register pressure is dynamic based on what's enabled! I probably got some parts wrong but I think it's really interesting how much having an L1 cache changes for shaders.

@BurritoKingdom 5 ай бұрын

I believe the new shaders he's talking about is mesh shaders. Which do have to be completely rewritten. It is why in the PC space there was an up roar when Alan Wake 2 was released, it's the first major game to use mesh shaders and made older GPUs obsolete since it's not forward compatible.

@ikarosav 5 ай бұрын

@@BurritoKingdom ah yeah my bad. just wanna add that mesh shaders and amplification, as well as ray tracing have been part of metal for some years, although internally running in a software implementation, so developers have been able to write tech that took advantage of these for some time pre-emptively. I know octane used the ray tracing api for a while before the agx9 came out, but yeah i don't know of anything that has taken advantage of the mesh shading api so that indeed would be novel to see used now.

@hishnash 5 ай бұрын

While it doe snot require shaders to be re-writen (this is very nice) you can get a good bit more pref by making changes. It is common to break up long running shaders into smaller shaders were each of these smaller shaders has a more constant register/threadgroup usage. This adds some overhead as you dispatch extra shaders but on older gpus it requests in better avg occupancy as the parts of your application with lower pressure can run higher ocupancy than if you just dispatch a single longer running shader that has some very high peak local mem or register usage. This new dynamic register/local/cache system means you can now just stitch all these shaders together (reducing the dispatch overhead) so you can now have much longer running single dispatch shaders without the occupancy hit that this has on most other gpus.

@jimgolab536 5 ай бұрын

I watched the whole thing and subscribed. This was a very nice level of analysis for me, and I think you did a great job of overviewing the changes. It seems to me that this gen is taking to heart one of the original RISC tenets, where spending transistors on caches (vs cpu, etc) is a huge win. The tricky part, also from RISC heritage, is that you have to have compilers that can take advantage of the opportunities for caching (and the exposure of opportunities for parallelism). I enjoyed your video a lot. Thanks.

@mrfin 5 ай бұрын

You have a gift for articulating these subjects. I have zero chip background but was easily able to follow through to the end.

@kristiandilov5249 5 ай бұрын

this is exactly the type of breakdown/content I was looking for. Really loved watching it, I need to deep dive into each topic and learn more 😀

@Cofenotthatone 5 ай бұрын

I always watch your videos from the beginning to the end, since your content is excellent. Thank you again this time.

@papsaebus8606 5 ай бұрын

It’s remarkable how much effort you’ve put into producing and researching this, keep it up! 👏

@HardwareScience 5 ай бұрын

I watched the entire video and I don't think 20 min is particularly long for this kind of content, you did a great job 👌👌

@MoonshineOctopus 5 ай бұрын

I’ve been waiting for this deep dive! Thank you!

@ancientsword 5 ай бұрын

It doesn't matter how transistors change, I just know that the knife skills are superb and they are getting expensive again.

@bjesuiter 5 ай бұрын

I love your breakdowns, it’s so fascinating! Watched to 11 min now and aiming for the full 20 min!

@imobsessedwithblowouts 5 ай бұрын

im in LOVE with these deep dive videos and i dont even feel like i just watched a 20min video, please keep this video style as long as you can😭

@schwartn 5 ай бұрын

I’m a high school computer teacher and I played it for my students. My students love to keep up with the latest chip news. Thanks for sharing!

@rainerzufall9881 5 ай бұрын

I always watch your videos from start to finish, as they are high quality content!

@TensorXR 5 ай бұрын

I watched the entire 20:12 minute video, It was very informative. I personally appreciate these deep dive technical analysis type videos, I learn a-lot more about semiconductor engineering and about the hardware we all take for granted. I am deeply fascinated about where the industry is headed with these process nodes and there optimizations.

@EricCanton 5 ай бұрын

Watched till the very end! I love technical deep dives like this, looking at chip pictures, talking about process nodes.. awesome vid 😎

@HighYield 5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it :)

@salty4 5 ай бұрын

always love your long deep dive videos

@stefanbuscaylet 5 ай бұрын

I’m in a somewhat similar industry trying to rebalance our product line portfolio and create distinct segmentation and know how many meetings and difficult it is. Im sure there was a ton of stress by folks at Apple (and thus a ton of meetings) when they relanded the M3 Pro calling it a “downgrade”. I can see the product planners and engineers arguing in my head. Watched the whole thing and subscribed. Thanks for doing this.

@andrewbulloch 5 ай бұрын

Superb deep dive, incredible detail you're covering here. Silicon has come a long way from my early days in the 90's in semi-conductors.

@Fidalailama 5 ай бұрын

Ive never seen any of your videos before but thank you for the depth and relatively simple explanations. Great video!

@timl2k11 5 ай бұрын

Watched it all, both an overview and a deep dive and I think you nailed the pacing.

@moinulhossain7468 5 ай бұрын

I don’t remember when was the last time I watched a 20 minutes video at a stretch. Great job making it information rich and right on the money. Enjoyed the video and how you compiled it. Please carry on.

@dmanistheshit 5 ай бұрын

Hey love the deep dive videos the longer the better :)

@kartikeybharti 5 ай бұрын

Dude I watch the entire video everytime! You're getting us nerds together about this. LOL. Also, I like the simplicity of your setup. The background is basic af but that's what I appreciate is that the focus is on the matter with picture examples and no nonsense.

@HighYield 5 ай бұрын

Thanks. The BG is just the white wall of my office, with some plants and lights. If I had more space I might be more creative, but so far I don't feel the need to change anything.

@CraigBlack123 5 ай бұрын

Watched it all the way through. Your deep dives are excellent. Thoroughly enjoyable. Much appreciated.

@alexanderstohr4198 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for that one - its length fits quite well to the topic.

@brxrmr 5 ай бұрын

Still watching and enjoyed the deep dive. It flies over my head but still interesting to me and learning a lot!

@JerrodLandon 5 ай бұрын

Wow thank you I was wanting someone to do a deep dive into the M series, chip sets. I don’t know really anything about how all this works but absolutely love hearing how things are made on a very detailed level. Thank you so much for the undoubtedly, very hard work and research you put into this!

@raminsameni1063 5 ай бұрын

These deep dives are my favorite content on KZfaq , always watch all the way through but leaving you a comment this time half way through when you asked

@SuperWookie01 5 ай бұрын

Loved the video especially the visualisation of where everything is on the chips. Watched every second of it.

@joeldelacl4206 5 ай бұрын

Great video man... Love learning more about chip design and watching new products from a design perspective. Keep the great work!

@surftec 5 ай бұрын

Fantastic video. Thanks for the detailed review. Length of video is fine, detail was exceptional and delivered with enough speed it wasn’t at all boring. Some drag things out so much I fall asleep listening them slowly waffle. Yours was perfect for me.

@kwameYuTu 5 ай бұрын

This is the in depth analysis I have been waiting for!!!! You must be doing something right as I had never heard of your channel before this video. Keep up the great work!

@FLUFFSQUEAKER 5 ай бұрын

Don't worry about 10+ minute videos, i could watch an hour of this!

@kidman2505 5 ай бұрын

Your videos are amazongly well made, and the cintent is mint. These technical videos are all Id ever watch if possible lol.

@Gwrod.s 29 күн бұрын

I understood like half of the content but you made it super easy to digest! Great job!

@swlak516 5 ай бұрын

Loved the video. Watched the whole thing. Always look forward to your deep dives.

@ogheneochukooputu9725 5 ай бұрын

Nice! I watched the entire video and even returned to watch some parts. Thank you for the comparison.

@TheGarrison89 10 күн бұрын

Love watching your deep dives all the way through, I learn a lot. Thanks!!

@maltoNitho 5 ай бұрын

11:00 I just paused to comment… I’m watching every second because I haven’t found this level of detail about these chips said in such a succinct way. Thank you for keeping it entertaining and informative.

@KellyWu04 5 ай бұрын

I love your channel. It’s more or less unbiased. Praising where praises are deserved and criticizing when it’s due. I also love the detail-ness of your content.

@adamw.7242 5 ай бұрын

Commenting for the long watch survey. Your content is great; always finish the deep dives! ❤

@LenardGunda 5 ай бұрын

Watched from beginning to end, thank you for the deep dive. Very informative!

@SimRacingSK 5 ай бұрын

long videos i love it, watched it all keep m coming

@antenedilbert7191 5 ай бұрын

This is the most intensive yet easily informative piece of Video. I'd say its not long. It's full of info that it never felt long. Lets see what Qualcomm does with their designs after their new acquisition.

@VideogamesAsArt 4 ай бұрын

This is exactly the high quality and great content I learnt to expect from this channel. It seemed like a 5 minute video to me. Right at my knowledge/interest level, incredibly educational and engaging/entertaining. Looking forward to all your videos

@daniloamchagas 5 ай бұрын

Another excellent video! I always go all the way to the end in your videos. Keep up with the great work!

@blakespot 5 ай бұрын

I *LOVE* deep dives like this. Hats off.

@m.s.psrikar8681 5 ай бұрын

Just completed watching this video. As a current chip designer, absolutely love your content and this video in particular was very well done. Would like to see more deep dives like this video.

@HighYield 5 ай бұрын

More to come!

@marcin1337_ 5 ай бұрын

I watched it all to the end, your analysis are excellent and the deep dives is what I love

@AncientAviator 5 ай бұрын

I watched the entire video and was quite fascinated. Thanks very much for taking the time to produce this.

@DavidFerenczyRogozan 5 ай бұрын

Don't worry, 20 minutes for such a subject is definitely not too long. Would be great to go even more to the depth. Anyway, great and informative video! 👍

@dongogucci 5 ай бұрын

The best kind of videos! Truly enjoy those.

@Epicgamer_Mac 4 ай бұрын

I’m still watching, and I’m planning to watch the entire thing! I appreciate the detailed discussion and I find it very fascinating.

@cyan_aura 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for such a detailed analysis. I find these deep dives really interesting and I'm pretty sure many others would agree too. Would surely love to see more of these in future. Cheers!

@HighYield 5 ай бұрын

More coming for sure. Thanks for your support, much appreciated!

@halwye 5 ай бұрын

Fascinating, and the depth of review is much appreciated. The lack of bias in particular makes this.

@blazemasterb4018 5 ай бұрын

I love your Deep dive Videos i've watched all of them till the end you know your stuff very entertaining keep up the good work!

@emmanualmompermier4427 5 ай бұрын

Great way to break down something so complex and very enjoyable to watch.

@pixselious 5 ай бұрын

Still watching. Love the deep dives!

@adinnugroho6544 5 ай бұрын

I honestly love this video, deep diving inside Chip like the M3 Family on video compared to previous generation

@aokaaay 5 ай бұрын

as a general tech enthusiast, it's so interesting to learn about these kind of specific things in such a well made and laid out way, kudos to you, i enjoyed the whole video!

@harounelmir2632 Ай бұрын

Watched all the way through, time went by like a breeze with your explanations, cheers

@bastiangugu4083 5 ай бұрын

The deep dive was very interesting. Longer videos are not a problem. :-) Heck, I watch every week the new video by Perun. Usually an over one-hour long Powerpoint presentation on military and defense economic matters.

@asemmokllati 4 ай бұрын

this is what I call high-quality content, thanks bro.

@paul94040 5 ай бұрын

Excellent video. I watch a lot of processor analysis videos and product teardowns, and yours is one of the best I've seen. Interestingly, there's a bunch of initial M3 product comparison videos that are reporting M3 as a failure because their benchmark software doesn't take advantage of the improved architecture that Apple has delivered. I would love to see your analysis on the Apple audio chip improvements and the Closed Loop Controller used in the camera system...

@Hisamuran 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the great video, watched till the end. Loved the deep dive, much more interesting than the standard reviews. I’m a software engineer and I subscribed straightaway because I love computers and I’m very interested in knowing the actual differences beyond number of cores and max memory management. Keep doing these videos 👍👍👍

@MichaelSinz 5 ай бұрын

The number of transistors on a single chip is breaking my brain. But then, the last chip I was involved with was a long time ago (I ended up going into more software work as we were building software to test and validate our chip designs and that ended up being where I found the love of software engineering)

@dsolis7532 14 күн бұрын

This is an extremely technical and amazing video. I’m a physicist that had worked in nanotechnology and a computer scientist and I’m lost for times during this video. Amazing job.

@MPHORROCKS 5 ай бұрын

Your presentation is so clear and focused that even a novice like me gets the gist and it really helps to ease some of the frustrations users feel when they understand the context more. The 20 minutes flew by!

@ysz7423 5 ай бұрын

Always love an information dense long video.

@davidbolus 5 ай бұрын

watched it all - thanks for the hard work.

@gabrielelbel 5 ай бұрын

Excellent ! Keep making those 👍

@I_eatfacts 5 ай бұрын

Great video man, love these deep dives!

@RomPereira 5 ай бұрын

I did like your approach while explaining the dye of the SoC. Keep up the good work! Thank you.

@Dominic416_ 5 ай бұрын

Keep ‘em coming!

@diepker357 5 ай бұрын

Great video! Please keep making those analyses! :)

@andyxiao8913 5 ай бұрын

watched the entire video, really good analysis. subbed.

@harleyyyyy2706 5 ай бұрын

really great explinations you speak super clearly and well and easy to comprehend even for me who knows not too much about chips

@JJ-fq3dh 4 ай бұрын

This was the best review of the M3 design ive seen to help understand the internals of the M line. Great video, watched it till the end, could even have been longer

@Termynat0r 5 ай бұрын

Wow, great analysis. You deserve much more exposure

@lilblock9614 5 ай бұрын

Watched the whole video. These videos really scratch I have for learning about chip design!

@ALifeWithoutBreath 5 ай бұрын

Still watching at 10:50 and watched to the end. As a diver the wording makes me chuckle but this dive was neither too deep nor too long. 😉🤿 Last time I got into the nitty gritty of Apple Silicon was when the M1-Series was released. Now that the 3nm chips are out I'm catching up on the developments. It's neat to see an analysis of the actual dies. Good work! ☺

@user-kn2nc6dt5f 5 ай бұрын

最後まで見ました。内容はもちろん大事なのですが、話し方が他のKZfaqrと違って、とても穏やかな話し方なので心地良く聴けます。ありがとう。

@MarkEvans5 5 ай бұрын

Well done. 👍🏼 I also watched the whole video, quality information. Thank you!

@markusklingsiek2366 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for that very comprehensive video. I watched it until the end and it was a very interesting deep dive. Thanks for that!

@michaelhassey2709 4 күн бұрын

Well done. A lot of information to unpack and you did it well. No fluff, just a well crafted narrated walkthrough of this fascinating and evolving landscape of silicon. Cheers.

@user-kt2kz5qg4z 5 ай бұрын

Wonderful video. The whole thing was interesting and well constructed. I especially liked the summary at the end.

@twinspikakaizen6154 3 ай бұрын

Every Minute was worthwhile. Thank you for the indepth review. More of this please

@DeepakRana-xe5xl 5 ай бұрын

Great video. Thanks for creating it. Insightful and well expleined.

@siewkimng1085 5 ай бұрын

Wonderfully made video. Clear and succinct!

@bluetran1 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for embedding eng subtitle I'm not good at listening English as a Korean, this is very helpful. Also video is very insightful and easy to understand. Thank you