HiKOKI v DeWalt | Framing Nailer Head-to-Head

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HiKOKI v DeWalt | Framing Nailer Head-to-Head

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Framing Nailer Head-to-head review - Hitachi NR1890 vs DeWalt DCN692
A battle of two popular 18V cordless framing nailers.
Roger visits his friend Malcolm to put the new Hitachi NR1890DBCL up against the established DeWalt DCN690 nail gun to see how much of a difference Hitachi's new air spring drive technology makes to performance.
DeWalt Features
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• Dry fire lockout ensures that the tool is protected from firing without nails in the magazine
• Cordless design so no hanging leads to deal with
• The user can engage contact trip lock-off and prevent accidental discharge of the fastener
• Two speeds or power levels which optimise the nailer for firing all lengths of nails.
• The sequential operating mode allows for precision placement and the bump operating mode provides the user with production speed
• Mechanical rather than gas operation offers consistent performance at a temperature between -20 and 50 degrees Celsius and minimal cleaning/service requirements
• Class-leading vibration and sound figures offer fantastic user protection
• Reversible belt/rafter hook provides increased portability and versatility on the job-site
• Depths can be easily adjusted using the thumb wheel depth adjuster Increased visibility and durability along with protection for work-surface from the non-mar contact-trip
• Ergonomic tool design allows the nailer to fit easily between a 400mm centre stud
• Gas free operation offers a significant saving in running costs
• Tool-free stall/jam clearance minimises user downtime
Hitachi Features
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• Unique Air Drive System - Compressed air is used to drive each nail increasing power, performance and driving speed
• Lower running costs: - No Gas cells required. Purchasing nails without gas cells are approximately 50% cheaper - No regular cleaning of a combustion chamber is required significantly reducing the cost of servicing and downtime - Fewer parts to manage results in easier maintenance
• Dual function trigger for Sequential and contact mode with operation control panel
• Dry-fire lockout mechanism prevents the nailer from being activated when there is a very low level of nails in the magazine
• Integrated Hook for added convenience
• Safer and more comfortable to use on any jobsite than Gas combustion models
• Brushless motors are 30% more efficient than conventional models as no energy is wasted through brush friction thus extending battery run time
• Rapid charger with the cooling system and USB port
• Extreme high capacity 5.0Ah Li-ion batteries with multiple protection circuit provide long run time and protects the battery & tool from overload, overheat, over discharge & overcharge.
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@donricki1 Жыл бұрын

I bought this nail gun as we were planning to renew all the fencing in our back garden. As this involved 19 double slatted fence panels, 10 of which needed to be cut down in size, we knew there would be a need for a great kzfaq.infoUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt deal of re-stapling the wooden slats to the wooden framework. Each alteration required the re-stapling of 62 wooden slats with double staples. Prior to starting the work we ordered sufficient additional staples as per the instructions with the gun.The gun performed fantastically throughout the entire project with no jams of misfires. The adjustable power was excellent allowing the staples to be fired into the 8mm slats to the correct depth. For the price paid this was a bargain and it proved itself to be so reliable and versatile making an arduous task much quicker and professional. I cannot recommend this product highly enough and it will be used on many other projects in the future.

@Liquid_dreams- 6 жыл бұрын

Im a framer and a DeWalt fanboy, I would recommend any DeWalt tool apart from the nailer. I've had 3 and all of them have gone the same way. They are great when they work but eventually they just stop working and you can't do anything to fix it.

@leoshi6355 5 жыл бұрын

same problem... no one can save dewalt nailer

@TheJoshuadavis73 3 жыл бұрын

If its not firing lossen those top screws leave abit of clearance 0.2mm its the firing pin that burrs causes it too jam

@Kirkwoodjoinery 6 жыл бұрын

Roger my dewalt broke not long after seeing this so I went and got the hitachi. Your right the power of the hitachi is much better. The nose on the dewalt is better by a long chalk . The bit on the side of the magazine on the hitachi limits your view when nailing studs at the top . And the belt hook on the hitachi needs improved . If I could get the design of the dewalt with the power of the hitachi, that gun would be perfect

@786otto 5 жыл бұрын

Got Paslode gun 20 years ago, still working.

@doctorlefthandthread 6 жыл бұрын

I am surprised by the performance of the Hitachi over the Dewalt. I knew this model of Dewalt was superior to the old one but I didn't expect the Hitachi to outperform it good video thanks

@scottlehuray7062 2 жыл бұрын

My old Dewalt with push in battery feels like it had more punch than my new Dewalt brushless 2nd fix nailer with slide in 18v xr battery. Still i wouldnt be without it, or the 1st fix. Shame the 1st fix doesnt also fire lost heads.

@histguy101 2 жыл бұрын

@Some DUED The Hitachi ain't a gas nailer.

@AshHalls Жыл бұрын

@Some DUED I’d prefer to refill a gas than deal with jams. Gas has never been a issue for me personally.

@0hypnotoad0 5 жыл бұрын

Have both of these, and the Hitachi is miles better honestly. Just a beautifully simple mechanism, tremendous nailing power, and lifetime warranty. The Dewalt isn't bad by any stretch but the inside of the gun is like a fucking Rube Goldberg machine, I hear issues about reliability and that wouldn't surprise me with how complicated the internals are. Only grab the Dewalt if you already have lots of Dewalt stuff 20v, and you're buying it bare tool/skin only. If it's a choice between buying the two kits outright, the Hitachi is the way to go, incredible nailer.

@kieranperry9685 4 жыл бұрын

0hypnotoad0 I got both too. Totally agree with you 👍🏻👍🏻

@byronc7284 6 жыл бұрын

Im a dewalt guy but I love my passlode. Much lighter. I've had it for almost 3 years and its going on strong and never even done any maintenance on it. I use it almost daily. When i go in production framing, i definitely do bring out compressor and pneumatic hitachi.

@MdaMda-ky7zd 5 жыл бұрын

have both, the Dewalt is for sale.

@danielgarbuzov8106 6 жыл бұрын

I bought the Hitachi 21 degree plastic collated framing nailer about a month ago and I love it. Already did 2 big additions. Just wish it came with a 6.0 battery and 15 min rapid charger for the price.

@paulsmith1981 5 жыл бұрын

Had the Dewalt framing nailer and it was complete garbage, lasted six months. It was almost as terrible as the old Hitachi gas nailer which lasted about 3 months on site. When the mechanism on the Dewalt starts to ware after 5 to 6 months on demanding site work, it stops working and Dewalt will not stand over the guarantee. You will never see roofers using Dewalt nailers, its always paslode because paslode is durable. The Dewalt framing nailer is a DIY tool. Its fine for light occasional use, Its at a knock down price on Amazon for a reason.

@joeframer9642 6 жыл бұрын

I have 4 Dewalts.,building decks...no problems for two years ,rain,snow,cold,hott...works great...haven’t rebuilt or changed anything. .we use paslode paper nails 3 1/4” . @. 2 3/8 “ ....the hitachi is definitely heavier and longer...but drives nails great

@girlsdrinkfeck 6 жыл бұрын

dont forget if ya batterys fuck up ,its just one or 2 cells thats dead ,take the pack apart and replace the dead cell with a new one resolder the series of cells and its good as new ,save yourself £80

@timgrubb5677 5 жыл бұрын

Roger.... absolute gent... by far the best educational videos on youtube. Given me the confidence to take on more projects in my own house... thank you!💪

@SkillBuilder 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim

@approachableactive 3 жыл бұрын

The big difference for me is that the Hitachi/ hikoki gun fires when you press the trigger. The dewalt has to ramp up before it fires. I know you gas guys will be used to that but now I've had that instant action I find other types really tedious lol. Both guns are great but im really happy with my hikoki

4 жыл бұрын

I've had the DeWalt about a year now. It took me awhile to get used to all that weight, but I've learned to like it... especially when I'm doing a quick job and don't feel like dragging hoses out. I have to admit I felt just a touch of jealousy when I saw how well the -Hita- *Metabo* worked, but then I remembered that I have almost every cordless tool that DeWalt makes and tons of batteries... *and* the yellow one is prettier.

@hejhejsan5299 4 жыл бұрын

I work indoors only and at my workplace we use DeWalt, and we got 7 of these. They were really good in the begining, but nowadays there's only problem when using them.. all of our nailguns have been send back for repairs and they are not even 2 years old, some of them aren't even 1 year old. DeWalt said that there's a maintenance after shooting 30 000 nails, but they barely make it to that point before they start to breakdown. And I'm not talking about jamming nails here, its worse problem than that... I would never buy a battery nailgun from DeWalt if I had my own company. They lack quality. It's sad because I think they are great when everything is working.

@SkillBuilder 4 жыл бұрын

I would use a compressor and air nailer. they last forever.

@hejhejsan5299 4 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder Yeah, we have realized that too. But I generally like battery tools and think its come a long way, but the Dewalt nail gun is a joke...

@robaguiar2342 6 жыл бұрын

The dewalt nailer is the one that turned me away from battery framing nailers. Our workplace went through 2 of the original ones and 2 of the "new" ones with all 4 needing significant repairs, and not using them as full time framers. I would rather clean my paslode then use that piece of junk nailer. Looks like hitatchi is going in the right direction though, might be looking into that one.

@joshytraylor 6 жыл бұрын

Yea same the dewalt is shite and underpowered when 1st fixing mone jammed 25 times a day let alone last 2 years! Paslode im360ci is the best machine out there!

@lewiscain2665 5 жыл бұрын

yeah we bought one, few months it was fucked where as the pasload we had for years is still going strong, never misses a beat just as good as our new one. Pasload all the way.

@TechieTard 5 жыл бұрын

You need to give the metabo a chance, its awesome! The dewalt is a major POS!

@elcidbob 4 жыл бұрын

@@TechieTard metabo is Hitachi

@Bemx2k 4 жыл бұрын

For heavy duty cycle you should buy Dewalt NR1890DBCL

@mrdan1210 5 жыл бұрын

I framed a large house (stick built) with the first gen of the dewalt on my own. Got through about 15 boxes of nails. I now struggle with shoulder pain I believe was caused by the dewalt. The gen 1 was ok but looking back it was not powerful enough and my shoulder took a lot of the recoil. Recently been using a paslode and you forget how powerful they are with virtually no recoil.

@m.keeganoconnells4365 5 жыл бұрын

Girl

@ShanGee90 3 жыл бұрын

I've had the makita champion edition Black drills with the buttons. Mine are still intact and not falling apart. I think the problem happens when the buttons are pressed down using a finger nail and not the tip of the finger. Just purchased the hi koki nr1890dc. Great gun!

@2thextrme 4 жыл бұрын

Tried both and can say hands down its the Hitachi is the best between the 2

@TechieTard 5 жыл бұрын

Ive got that Hitachi...oops, Metabo, and its just hands down the best portable framing nailer. My only issue is the magazine, needs to be just a tad longer.

@JamieVauxnut1 5 жыл бұрын

I loved my dewalt nailers they are amazing and out perform paslode ... but thats only when they are new . The dewalts just dont last , got 2 dcn 692 guns about the same time you made this video and had them go wrong within 7 months and no matter how many times they were stripped and pistons/springs changed they were totally dead at 1 year old . We use them hard daily probably 100,000 nails each in a year but a new paslode will do that no problem , 2 year warranty and the resale value is great . Just sell them and buy new paslodes every year now . Dewalt just haven't cracked it with this flywheel system , but i will be keeping an eye out for improvements

@kimobrien4381 6 жыл бұрын

Hitachi the clear winner but as with all skill builder reviews they find a way to make DeWalt the champion.

@SkillBuilder 6 жыл бұрын

Kim O'Brien There is no bias in this at all and nobody paid us. The fact is they are both good tools. The Hitachi is more powerful but heavier. The choice is yours not ours.

@kimobrien4774 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to reply. There's nothing wrong with being a DeWalt fanboy but you need to keep the reviews even, there is definitely bias for the DeWalt in this video.

@SkillBuilder 6 жыл бұрын

I won't persuade you but I have been accused by every manufacturer of favouring another through my 33 years of writing tool reviews. I am not a fan of any make of tools. I believe in buying the best and, if you want the truth, the best cordless nailer has yet to be made. Somebody, maybe Senco, will produce a lighter machine. They have this air technology in their finishing nailer.

@AndrewBrowner 6 жыл бұрын

anyword on milwuakee coming out with one? im already burried into the m18fuel line up pretty heavily and dont plan on having two platforms.. would like to see a m18 chainsaw as well but im not holding my breath on that one

@SkillBuilder 6 жыл бұрын

I will find out. Of course it won't be official but they usually let us know. Also I keep pestering them for a track saw. They have a big beast that will fit on a rail but it doesn't have an anti splinter rubber. Some of these companies baffle me. If they have a loyal following why leave gaps in the range to let other people take it?

@11SecSTionStockSnail 6 жыл бұрын

I’ve used both, personally like dewalt not containing all the bulk in the head. The hitachi has the motor on the side of the magazine and though rarely, I find that to interfere with some weird angles or when I try to get into tight spaces. Like adding back framing where missing and or blocking for some wall mounted cabinetry and other things. I still frame with pneumatic gun, but pull the cordless out when I need a quick small frame up or to add a few studs here n there, unfortunately it just happens that I use cordless for all the small backframing and other tight space cituations where we’ve missed something during initial frame job, and that’s when I feel dewalt shines specifically in “getting in to tight spaces”

@d2cdl 6 жыл бұрын

The concept of gasless nailers is great, but the reality is they are too heavy for consitent daily use. If you're using 2500 nails a day, especially if roofing, these type of guns are hard going physically. I found the Dewalt had a wierd gyroscopic force that you had to counter aswell causing further fatigue.

@SkillBuilder 6 жыл бұрын

d2cdl That is the fllywheel in the DeWalt which is heavy and does produce a gyrospoic effect. I agree about the weight. If someone can take every one of those components and halve the weight they will have it sussed.

@crunch9876 6 жыл бұрын

How are you using that many nails a day roofing? I doubt you’d use that many nails just installing sheathing

@cameroncrane3770 6 жыл бұрын

crunch9876 you can use a crap ton when you consider every board gets at the very least ~30-40 nails, at least where I work. When you think a ~2500 square foot homes you'll use over 60 sheets if I remember correctly so you think 60×40 and that's quite a large lowball for sheets that'd be what? Like 2400 nails?

@yvonroy9617 5 жыл бұрын

We just upgraded to the hitachi.Love it.

@crazybird3674 5 жыл бұрын

I have the dewalt nailer. I was really impressed with it on regular framing but when it comes to yellow pine, green board, treated wood, or denser wood dewalt doesn't sink the nails all the way, most times i had to follow up with a hammer. Then I used the Hitachi about 2 weeks ago. Hitachi definitely has more power, it sunk the nail heads a good eighth inch into yellow pine and treated lumber. The rafter clips on the dewalt holds the gun close to the board making it kind of difficult to take off compared to the much larger rafter clip on the Hitachi. So, pick your gun according to what you need it for. I already had a bunch of dewalt chordless tools so plenty of batteries as well. Bottom line, Hitachi wins...more power, more manageable clip. That being said, I am happy with the dewalt...its not every day that i use treated lumber or yellow pine anyway.

@TheJoshuadavis73 3 жыл бұрын

For the dewalt gun if its jamming loosen those 2 top screws leave abit of clearance 0.2mm stops firing pin jamming could be burrs or bent pin, this fixes straight away.

@jetson2075 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys. That was a great informal information. Love your style.

@isaacsmith400 4 жыл бұрын

I am familiar with the Dewalt nail gun we have bought three DeWalt nail guns different timings and they all have the same issue after using it for a while the battery won't pop out so you have to stop pulled off pop it back in it does something it knocks it loose

@Griphook1 5 жыл бұрын

Just bought the 692 (first fix) and the 660 (second fix). Can't wait to give them a try out :)

@con_boy 3 ай бұрын

Can you tell me what the difference is?

@Griphook1 3 ай бұрын

@@con_boy between these two nail guns? One throws in a bigger fixing then the other.

@LongRangeRifleSystem 3 жыл бұрын

The old paslode was fine, I have been through about 6 of the new im360 nail guns they just always break after about 18 months. Hikoki is almost perfect

@herbertbrown9076 4 жыл бұрын

I just bought the Hitachi it works great shooting 3 inch nails. Glade I made this choice . Great initial review

@vistron888 6 жыл бұрын

The electronic push buttons can be kind of tedious but a good quality switch will last a very long time. The old selector switches can also get jammed up and not function.

@SkillBuilder 6 жыл бұрын

It seems that the selector switch on Malcolm's Dealt could do with some WD40

@sykamuru3451 4 жыл бұрын

Ive never used the 18volt from dewalt but i own the 20volt version of this gun and love it, never had a single problem

@SkillBuilder 4 жыл бұрын

It is the same tool. The Americans describe it at its peak voltage of 20 volts when charged but it operates closer to 18 volt which is why, we in the U.K, describe it as such.

@lucas_lucas2007 Жыл бұрын

I have used both but I personally like the DeWalt one over the hikoki Although it has lots of power it's a lot more heavier and has less nail capacity in magazine

@TheStevenWhiting 5 жыл бұрын

Avoid the DeWalt DCN692 one. Brother in law bought one on Amazon and came DOA. Then reading the reviews the DeWalt one, loads of them have died shortly after purchase.

@dukedaz8920 6 жыл бұрын

I have the first 690 and the 692 dewalt nail gun first one was a knightmare cost me £240 in repairs,but the 692 has been replaced coz of a fault but it’s all on the platform u r using and mine is dewalt

@daveisrael1240 2 жыл бұрын

I went through 3 Dewalt Nailers framming a house this summer ,one of them I only got a clip of nails through it and the motor burned out ,Dewalt should be ashamed of themselves for putting this piece of garbage on the market and iam a Dewalt guy I have nothing but Dewalt tools including 6 of the 60 volt batteries Iam vary impressed with everything else I have but this nailer is a whole lot of frustration.

@pilot742 5 жыл бұрын

Phil Collins does framing work?

@B15SDMDESIGNS 5 жыл бұрын

I can smell nail gun gas in the air tonight!.....

@phillipkelly233 5 жыл бұрын

He needs to do a bit of work on the side. Cos he can't sing for toffee now.

@tensazero 6 жыл бұрын

DeWalt: Easy to see except in bright sunlight. Hitachi: Drop it in a bush; can't find it.

@coolkid8865 6 жыл бұрын

Utensazero... duhh Don't join timber over bushes silly boy.....

@Mike_P646 6 жыл бұрын

I'd throw the dewalt straight on a fire,I've owned 2,total rubbish

@candelariosanchez273 6 жыл бұрын

No problem unless you a Gardner!

@Mentorcase 5 жыл бұрын

I know I have found 3 or 4 Hitachi's whilst out bushwalking!

@seniorblackhat 5 жыл бұрын

tried a dewalt for remodeling, had troubles right out of the box. After calling the tech support ended up taking it right back for refund. no power, constant misfires definately not worth buying

@bigrigross 5 жыл бұрын

Once I switched from Paslode nails to the dewalt nails, all of my issues went away. No idea why. I usually use my gun with 3" galvanized ring shank nails.

@philipjohn4149 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Roger. Dewalt does really well with the flywheel in finished nail gun. I wonder why they have not build a similar one using the air chamber. Could it be patent infringement due to Milwaukee or ryobi. Hitachi has already copied flexvolt... With multivolt possible only sold in Japan getting around copy right infringement.

@davideriksen2434 4 жыл бұрын

I have the DeWalt and love it I got a great deal on it and it does what I need and all my batteries fit

@Asgardsteve1 5 жыл бұрын

I've got the Dewalt and it struggles with the longer nails, so you need to use the Flexvolt 6Ah battery but even then you get rogue nails on the longer ones, the only way round this is to switch to the 9Ah Flexvolt battery

@jaydaytoday3548 4 жыл бұрын

That's strange I've easily shot more than 10000 nails through mine all framing 16d shorts perfect. Only jammed once.

@dragan3290 Жыл бұрын

I used the paslode from the biulder on site. Dewalt is good for building up your shoulders. In Australia dewalt is beautiful! Maybe the cold???

@randomtask9029 5 жыл бұрын

3:00 Roger: 'Have you got it set for full depth?' Yes, Malcolm says, pointing it at Roger's face.

@redsresearch Жыл бұрын

Whats with the clipped head nails? Also the offset round nails?

@NathanHolle 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Roger , I’ve had my dewalt for a few years , been really good. The main problem I have is when fencing , especially on thin feather edge , if you don’t catch the recoil right it leave the 51mm ring shanks sticking out . I have to push forward as I fire .It can push the fence back. Easier to avoid in bump mode, also in the time I’ve used it , I’ve never used the weaker mode.

@SkillBuilder 6 жыл бұрын

That was my impression. It is slow driving the nails in so the timber has chance to move.

@uttaradit2 5 жыл бұрын

skill builders is the biz....I like the tool comparisons and the on site work...from a diyer

@sweetfreedomGB 4 жыл бұрын

Had a compressor Paslode for many years and it was the daddy but the recoil gave us rotator cuff shoulder injuries. So maybe the Hitachi is the answer?

@Brown969 6 жыл бұрын

Excellent! Glad to see this video. It does make me wonder if I'd buy a Hitachi over a Dewalt as would then have an odd battery to lug around. Thanks for sharing!!

@joshytraylor 6 жыл бұрын

Do yourself a favour and buy neither, get a paslode im360ci it has no cold weather issues and will be more reliable.

@timcronin9080 4 жыл бұрын

The guy I work with had q dewalt but after trying my hitachi he bought one for himself. Still has the dewalt for lighter stuff , jusr a great nailgun all round the hitachi.

@mohammadrezarasooli1783 5 жыл бұрын

Really perfect and powerful, thank you for your efforts.

@sarabiakristofer 5 жыл бұрын

Those are cool, but I personally think the paslode is 1 of a kind.😬but like I said, the hikoki and the DeWalt are great as well.

@jasonhull2163 5 жыл бұрын

Hitachi has always had the best nail guns.

@sessiontelemetric5618 6 жыл бұрын

Great review gents. Good on ya!

@MrCretemaniam 3 жыл бұрын

That windup noise the DW makes would drive me nuts !!!

@hartsymk1 6 жыл бұрын

dewalt started it. hitachi improved it. only time will tell what other company's will bring to the table to improve cordless nailguns, weight reduction, power and reliability are key

@galvanizedgnome 3 жыл бұрын

Milfuckee is the current king

@thetrick4fun 5 жыл бұрын

Will NR1890DBCL work with 30 degrees paper off-set Full Round Head (not clipped head) nails? Like DeWalt dpt-16d131fh nails or Paslode 650388? Anybody tried?

@leonardorojas1781 5 жыл бұрын

Excuse me; are those framing nailers strong enough to use on hardwood? Like hard mahogany, kingwood, ironwood? It's that here in Peru we don't build with softwood like douglas fir. I'm worried if I buy one of these cordless nailers they won't sink the nails!! Given they will penetrate enough to be useful. Would they sink them? Has anyone tried? Any thoughts? Here in Peru you will very, very rarely see someone using a pneumatic or cordless framing nailer of any kind! (We do have finishing nailers) I wanted to be one of the rare! Please advice! :)

@nathanreeder7534 3 жыл бұрын

Unlike a lot of tool review commentors, I'm not blindly loyal to one brand or another; I'm loyal to tools that perform. We've had the dewalt cordless nailers for a few years now and recently picked up the Hitachi (now Metabo hpt) and it definitely outperforms the dewalt. I don't care what colour the tool is, I just care how well it works.

@SebastiaanMollema 6 жыл бұрын

Great show! Clear and understandable on the motivations!

@unknownuser4717 3 жыл бұрын

My dewalt is fine until I'm joisting with 50mm ring shanks and fitting the new type osb hardboard floor boards it leaves them half hanging out if u try and rapid fire. I say paslode or hilti is the best

@Natedoc808 2 жыл бұрын

“Dewalt works great and has never failed me, but I’d take the Hitachi”... because they’re sponsoring this video

@SkillBuilder 2 жыл бұрын

We don't have sponsors in head to heads

@giuseppecastaldo644 3 жыл бұрын

good morning. Sorry about the question. i'd like to buy one nailer. better to battery or air? better Dewalt Hikoki Milwaukee?

@Motorhoming_Fun 4 жыл бұрын

will paslode nails work in the Dewalt.

@Patrick-857 5 жыл бұрын

The Dewalt guns always fail irreparably after a certain amount of use. Hitachi has a really good reputation for making indestructible industrial tools, while Dewalt is basically Ryobi for people with money to burn. My father is a builder and he bought into Dewalt hook line and sinker, but he paid for it, he should have gone with Paslode for his nailer (his company paid for the nails and gas canisters) and Makita or Hitachi for the rest of his tools. These formerly American and German companies are no good anymore, but the Japanese continue to make solid stuff.

@jasonhull2163 5 жыл бұрын

Makitas are made in china.....

@JS-qg1ie 5 жыл бұрын

Strongest extension ever!

@lorenrickey5481 5 жыл бұрын

Metabo HTP/ Hitachi needs a longer nail magazine!!!! I’d buy it as a bare upgrade like Milwaukee is doing.

@hartsymk1 5 жыл бұрын

i was told but a dewalt service member that the firing spring in the dewalt is only good for roughly 23 thousand nails, sounds alot, but tbh its not. its not an expensive job to replace it but its not completely service free, as for the hikoki only time will tell how long the piston seals will last. these tools have a long way to go but! they are a brilliant start.

@eduardocarvalho1547 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy your videos! A little correction: the Hitachi/Hikoki is not sealed for life. From time to time it needs a refill with a service tool connected to an air compressor.

@SkillBuilder 2 жыл бұрын

Great point!

@tensevo 3 жыл бұрын

Glorious competition, hopefully dewalt can come back stronger.

@bp8092 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Roger. Great video. Can I ask of your honest opinion? I'm looking for a nail gun. I'm a Makita person and I don't want a gas nailer so I'm moving out of my comfort zone! These 2 nailers seem like the best / only option for me. So my question is; currently one can purchase the Dewalt nailer (dcn692) as a twin pack with the 2nd fix nailer with 2 5ah batteries for under £600. To me the Hitachi looks the better nailer but put simply is it worth the extra cost? I won't be using it every day. And with the batteries and case, it comes in at about the same cost as the 1st and 2nd fix Dewalt nail gun set. I'd love your thoughts. Many Thanks.

@SkillBuilder 5 жыл бұрын

Big Pouse The Hikoki is a good gun. I have used it for over a year now and no problems. The only drawback is the weight. The lightest gun is the Paslode but that is gas which is a problem if you want low maintenance.

@bp8092 5 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder cheers for that. I noticed you didnt mention the dewalt so I'm guessing it is the Hikoki is the best option. I dont wantnthe hassle of gas so mind made up! Cheers for that. Weight wise I'm only using it for occassional stud walling so I hope it isn't so much if an issue. Many thanks!

@SkillBuilder 5 жыл бұрын

The DeWalt suffers from recoil which means you need both hands on it to stop it bouncing. On a 90mm nail the Hikoki is way better. Since the brand change from Hitachi there are some old stock Hitachi nailers on offer and it is the same nailer. Mine is Hitachi.

@bp8092 5 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder any ideas where you can pick up an old model?! I've got a big garage build coming up with a huge roof. I'm mostly wanting it for that. I'm doing it all myself. My brother runs a site - Pouse Around The House. But he's so busy he wont have time to film it! Maybe you have a few weeks spare to lend a hand?! 😉

@SkillBuilder 5 жыл бұрын

where do you live?

@aidanhealy8274 5 жыл бұрын

Will the NR1890DBCL take more than just 30 degree nails?ie. 34degree?

@dante8506 6 жыл бұрын

I love my Dewalt tools. However, their cordless nail guns are trash, nothing but trouble. I would personally go Hitachi, or stick to the old faithful pneumatic.

@Hunter-ow4me 2 жыл бұрын

What's the price difference?

@randyvalantino6850 5 жыл бұрын

Try nailing 1 inch exterior ply or nailing into oak . They simply wont do what a paslode will do

@TechieTard 5 жыл бұрын

I had no issue with the Metabo.

@treehouse7861 4 жыл бұрын

codswallop

@joshcowart2446 5 жыл бұрын

They seem to work slower than pneumatic. That being said, the time you spend setting up and messing with hoses might make up for those fractions of a second per shot

@SkillBuilder 5 жыл бұрын

Yes they are a little slower but nobody likes the hoses in the U.K so even if it took 2 seconds longer per shot a lot of people would settle for it.

@Pro1er 6 жыл бұрын

You need to try the Hitachi in below freezing weather. Ryobi uses a compressor similar to the Hitachi and they don't work in really cold weather. Put it in the freezer overnight, take it out and run it straight away.

@SkillBuilder 6 жыл бұрын

You shouldn't be working in a freezer. We have used it in minus 2 and it is fine.

@vinceking7878 5 жыл бұрын

Probably only if they are wet??

@bertaframer4569 5 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder Framers in northern Canada work in a freezer 7 months of the year

@MrFullfatt 6 жыл бұрын

Are you going to make in depth comparison like you made with impact drivers ?

@SkillBuilder 6 жыл бұрын

Not unless there are a lot more battery nailers coming out. We've kind of covered this for now. We have more head to heads and in-depth reviews coming up in the next few months.

@MrFullfatt 6 жыл бұрын

Skill Builder thanks

5 жыл бұрын

Permanently sealed means not serviceable/repairable. You can buy replacement parts for the dewalt

@karkastrue2878 6 жыл бұрын

Hi, what temperature mode neller Hitachi?

@AlfordLau 5 жыл бұрын

I know there are safety built into the guns but one should still not point it to any persons as a habit, even if nail clips are removed from the guns.

@louisallen6828 3 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if makita are going to bring a 18v first fix nail gun out any time soon?

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

If they do let's hope it is better than their gas nailer

@mcaudery 5 жыл бұрын

I’v had the dewalt 2 years been great, has more smaller issues compared to paslode but when paslode has an issue i find people take a while to sort it out. I have used the Hitachi now and it kept misfiring a lot but yes it has more power. I’d say dewalts 3rd gen framer will be better than hitachi.

@TechieTard 5 жыл бұрын

what nails did you use? Ive never ever had it misfire, but once, and its because I didn’t sling the nails in right.

@paulkent7395 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Roger, what manufacturer of nails does malcolm use with his dewalt nailer?

@SkillBuilder 6 жыл бұрын

The cheapest he can find

@Palpac 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting to find the the Dewalt doesn’t work on air but on friction.

@midean6005 9 ай бұрын

Well Dewalt only have 1 year guaranty and will not extend it to three years, so I'm guessing its not that good. DeWalt DCN680D2 18v XR 18GA 2nd Fix Brad Nailer Inc 2x 2.0Ah Batts and DeWalt DCN692N-XJ 18v XR Brushless 1st Fix Framing Nailer Body Only

@timwyld573 4 жыл бұрын

The homeowner will have a very secure roof :)

@ScreamingEagleFTW Жыл бұрын

is that hitachi and the metabo the same thing? same company?

@thedestroyer3262 Жыл бұрын

No hitachi is now hikoki, metabo is different

@matthewevans7382 4 жыл бұрын

Advice needed please. Love the channel, I love DIY and I’m in the middle of renovating a property. I need to erect feather board fencing around the perimeter of the garden. I currently have 18 & 16 gauge nailers. I’m guessing these are too lightweight to attach the boards. What nailer type / nail length would you recommend? Thanks in advance

@gdfggggg 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve never used one of these, I just screw everything. If you screw up (pun intended) your timber placement you just undo the screws. Cmon, nobody’s perfect. How long are the nails on these?

@owendavies4613 4 жыл бұрын

90mm max

@Pch100 6 жыл бұрын

Great review

@vx3259 5 жыл бұрын

Use of the a 6 or 9 Amp flexyvolt battery will add more "grunt" to Dewalt and it will sink the nail as deep as Hikoki does.

@SkillBuilder 5 жыл бұрын

Handy Phil The Dewalt uses a flywheel to friction drive the pin which pushes the nail in. Tell us what you think the larger AHr battery will achieve. I have checked and DeWalt says the RPM will not increase so perhaps you could explain what you mean by 'grunt.'

@vx3259 5 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder More Amps gives you longer lasting constant 18 (20) V the tool requires to run on as I have found out that 4 or 5 Amp just don't. I am talking from the experience of using the tool. "grunt" is misspelled "guts"

@SkillBuilder 5 жыл бұрын

@@vx3259 We say grunt in the U.K anyway so if you are talking about hitting power then it is only produced by the speed of the flywheel. That would mean it had to spin the motor faster. I am interested in what you say and have some Flexvolt so I can try it.

@javierramirez8339 6 жыл бұрын

I have dewalt 16 g and hitachi 18 g hitachi much better tecnology ,i prefer ryobi over dewalt too

@peekukthefrog 6 жыл бұрын

Great video

@davidmichaelseven 5 жыл бұрын

Hibachi the clear winner the fly wheel on the Dewalt is not even close to the same instrument

@markrogers1095 4 жыл бұрын

Would either of these work for doing a cedar fence?

@sweetfreedomGB 4 жыл бұрын

Not really you need a coil nailer

@dragan3290 Жыл бұрын

Btw. I like the Hitachi air compressor idea! I use my dewalt like a machine gun. Lol

@TreeofLibertyDigest 5 жыл бұрын

Very helpful info

@randyhelgeson1254 4 жыл бұрын

Does the Hitachi jam on the knots as well?

@SkillBuilder 4 жыл бұрын

@randyhelgeson1254 4 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder this is basically why I'm asking. I am a floor layer and I also build showers and I also build fireplaces. But some of the times I actually need to frame out. I need to work faster. So using the cordless nailer seems to make sense even though I only use it some of the times. Which one would you recommend if I'm only using it like 20% of the time?