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Hinderer Knives Tri-Way Pivot system explain
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Күн бұрынRick further describes the Hinderer Tri-Way Pivot System and takes you through step by step on how to change the pivot system to suit your needs.
@mikem4259 4 жыл бұрын
I just got my first hinderer, a gen 6. Wow. It’s wicked sharp, I mean scary sharp, and that action is unbelievable. I don’t know what previous hinderers were like, but with the bearings in, it’s unbelievable. Every flipper should be this snappy. I have to say, this is a very good, quality knife with great craftsmanship.
@yankee2yankee216 3 ай бұрын
Here’s a new question! I saw that in your literature, e.g. the “note from the ranch,” that comes with the copper horse head scales, it states that “brass and copper scales are softer than titanium” and “for proper installation place included steel washer in the scale pocket for use of bearings or washers.” That makes perfect sense, however, the problem is that bearings and washers are different thicknesses. With the steel washers in place, the bronze or teflon washers fit, but the bearings are too thick. The only way the bearings fit is with the washers removed. I hope the copper doesn’t wear too badly from the bearings, because the bearings fit only with the washers removed… My XM-18 is now assembled with the copper scale, with bearings and without steel washers. It centers perfectly, without blade play, and is perfectly drop-shutty, i.e. it works perfectly. What am I missing?
@crossface222 5 жыл бұрын
Finally just got my first Hinderer knife. Been wanting one for a couple of years. Family got me an Eklipse for Christmas. It exceeded my already very high expectations. Thank you so much Rick for making these knives!
@HindererKnives 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you very much! I am very happy that you are really pleased with your new Eklipse!
@RubiconSS26 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you Rick. Congrats! (Scott) Hope everyone is well.
@PkwyDrive13 6 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention the SS lock insert/overtravel! Well you answered my question from the previous video, but at least the PB will still work. I already have some .015 PB washers for my Hinderers though from years ago when I just decided to try it.
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
PkwyDrive13 that is a feature that was newly released a while ago with the gen 5 knives....it is great that the regular washes will work fine
@mainlyoctober 3 жыл бұрын
Bought my XM-18 today. It can’t with the bearings installed and it’s flawless. Hands down the best knife I’ve ever had the opportunity to own! Thanks Rick!
@emesser7087 Жыл бұрын
Would be awesome if the bearings had a very thin hardened steel washer behind to to prevent trails in the titanium. Another good thing would be if the detend is attached to the lock inlay instead of having it still at the titanium frame.
@nobodysreview6137 2 жыл бұрын
After i left the comment below i put the spacers and bronze washers in one to try it out. So far so good actually. I like the solid feel of the bronze washers, the spacer thing does bother me but they are working fine and i think i'll leave them.
@oinnsheathen5684 4 жыл бұрын
I’m definitely a fan. Now to get one. Was between you and Medford and your M390 and 20CV wins out.
@jesseallen4184 5 жыл бұрын
Really informative video. Thank you. I just got my first XM-18 and can’t wait to try out the different pivot options.
@HindererKnives 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! Rick Hinderer
@zacharybohl8761 5 жыл бұрын
Love the new system Rick! Great job, can't wait to get my hands on one.
@jmas2190 6 жыл бұрын
Rick great video!! I have been wanting the skinner model with the option of bearings and now I'm all ready stuffing my money away for this baby. That is what i like a knife maker showing and making videos for his customers great job can't to buy this one....
@nofriendzplaya69 6 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome innovative feature! So glad you decided to do this! I broke and bought a gen 6 skinner immediately lol
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
Constantinol thanks!
@tallica4life81 4 жыл бұрын
I’m running the bronze washers on my new gen 3 eklipse I like it. I’m going to stick with it for about two weeks and see how it breaks in. May go back to the bearings. I already have a zt0393glcf on bearings so I think I like the eklipse running a different action.
@Al-ds3sw 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is the best thing since sliced bread lol but it is just great thanks Rick I am late to the Hinderer family but just got my xm18 non flipper today O MY GOD I LOVE THIS KNIFE 😍
@HindererKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Rick Hinderer
@jaimek9629 3 жыл бұрын
I love my first Hinderer MX-18 3 inch :) thank you!
@HindererKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Jaime! I am glad that you like it! Rick Hinderer
@jaimek9629 3 жыл бұрын
@@HindererKnives Wow, thanks for seeing my post and responding back to me Rick! That’s cool! I’m from Cincinnati originally and definitely will be always purchase upcoming new models of the 3 inch XM-18. Perfect size. I travel with work and fidget with your knife (not wanting to use it; wear out the blade LOL) - it’s fun & smooth:) I wear my Hinderer with pride. Thank you again -Go Reds and Bengals, Jaime
@mmorgado1 5 жыл бұрын
Just great Rick! Amazing system. I have 3 XM18 in Portugal. 1 in 3.5 and 2 in 3.0 (both with TriWay). Just amazing. Thank you. 🔝🔝🔝😀👌
@josepmariaaguascaribot9239 6 жыл бұрын
A knife technically at the forefront. Congratulations to the manufacturers.
@TSNchannel 5 жыл бұрын
Thank for teaching take the knife. Good channel
@ReclusiveMountainMan 5 жыл бұрын
People are concerned about the hardened steel bearings grinding into the titanium frame of their new Tri-Way knives. It's my thinking that there is little pressure on the bearings and once they create a track in the titanium frame, the wear will cease. This is due to the pivot, closed-blade stop pin, and standoff doing their job (holding the knife parallel). I don't think there is any way the bearing could eat their way through the titanium frame. Can you confirm this hypothesis on my part? Or perhaps make a video on the physics of the Tri-way folder?
@antoniobriggs9180 Жыл бұрын
Your website has no knives for sale…are you still in business. ? Thanks great video
@patriciadeklerk9783 6 жыл бұрын
Hope fast in the Netherlands. Thanks Ricky. Love my xm18 skinner and xm 24 spearpoint. Greets lex ( Netherlands ) 👍 👍
@andyseal8134 6 жыл бұрын
Just ordered mine last night.
@gammarayburst4763 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick just got my 3 inch warrny. Freaking love it man. Great video as well. Just subscribed to the channel.
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Thanks a bunch!! I am glad that you like it!!
@jonr1510 2 жыл бұрын
I finally decided to grab a non flipper xm18 with the fuller. I honestly didn't think I'd like it because of the thick blade stock and different hardware. Man was I wrong. It's one of the few knives that puts a smile on my face everytime I open, close, or use it. If you have the funds and happen to see one in stock give it a shot. Videos and photos don't do it justice, you have to handle one to get it. So nice!👍 Sign up for product notifications at DLT trading and have all your info saved. It makes tracking one down much easier because they go REALLY fast
@stevendalton7686 4 жыл бұрын
Can't seem to make this work. I have a "skinny" skinner from USA made blade. The bearings are fine, but when I switch to the bronze washers the blade is off center. Well, I can center it, but then the pivot is so tight it won't open. When I switch back to the bearings, all is well.
@knifeaddict1014 3 жыл бұрын
Just got me an xm-18 3.5 love it but man those gimpings on the back the last 3 could of been done without just where you flip it!! It’s a blister maker
@Mr.Beastforpresident 6 жыл бұрын
Rick I sure wish you'd offer a Titanium backspacer/glassbreaker/defense pommel option!!!
@northernninety7 4 жыл бұрын
Screw that I wish they would remove the jimping under the flipper tab.
@Mr.Beastforpresident 4 жыл бұрын
David Sherlock What does your comment have to do with my comment??
@Mr.Beastforpresident 4 жыл бұрын
Northern Ninety7 That and put the lock bar cut-out on the inside and a top mounted pocket clip like an Ultratech so the knife isn’t so obvious in the pocket
@northernninety7 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Beastforpresident I actually like the cutout to be visible, some knives get very creative with them. As for a deepy carry pocket clip, its nice but not mandatory for me.
@knifeaddict1014 3 жыл бұрын
@@northernninety7 yes same here
@BluetoothBlades Жыл бұрын
I do not own a Hinderer as of yet, but it is a grail knife that I will own some day.
@BluetoothBlades 10 ай бұрын
Ha, Ha...NOW I own two. Could you possibly explain what the tiny milled out holes on the blade next to the pivot hole are for ? Mine has six holes...are they Generation holes ? Thank you, Bluetooth Blades.
@Frip36 4 жыл бұрын
I hope gen 7 gets rid of the painful lower jimping and makes the flipper more ergonomic.
@richardbryant7961 6 жыл бұрын
Best knives on the market
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@richardbryant7961 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned Just about every production knife out there and in my opinion hinderer is the best US made knife out there for hard use or general edc use the availability of aftermarket hardware is great you can customize the knife in so many different configurations also the tolerances of the hardware he produces in house is just awesome I haven’t found any other knife brand that can compete with anything I just mentioned
@TheModernwarfare96 6 жыл бұрын
Will titanium scales made for earlier generations fit the new Gen 6 XM-18, Seeing as there is no cutout on the show-side of the blade for the bearing pivot system?
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Todd yes absolutely they will work on the new Gen 6!
@harf849 3 жыл бұрын
Just got the xm-18 3.5 gen 6 spearpoint. I immediately switched to PB washers, lubed the detente, washers and pivot. The knife came in scary sharp! The only issue I have is the flipping action. My fingers are super sore at the moment 😆 is there like a break in phase? Or anything that I can to achieve the smooth flipping action that everyone seems to rave about?
@antoniobriggs9180 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if you send your blade in to get it sharpened ? Just picked up a used XM-18 w/ red micarta scales. Also it seems to be a little tight…tried adjusting the screws to get the blade centered. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks
@zdp-189 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick, love the knives! Just got a hardly used green sheepsfoot XM-18 3.5" skinny, taking apart for first time to swap on orange g10 scale I bought, and I noticed the previous owner had the bearings in with no oil. I wanted to try the PB and nylon too for the hell of it...but my question is, is it ok to use them without KPL oil I usually use on all my other knives? I noticed you didn't apply in video, and previous owner didn't. Is it really a moot point, or do you think running them dry like it is now is better?
@Mr1121628 2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm no Rick Hinderer, so I can't speak for his preferences directly, but I have owned hundreds of nice knives, and I would definitely apply some form of lubrication regardless of what system you're using. I guess technically the teflon is self-lubricating, so its not 100% necessary, but ive always found it improves the quickness of the flipping action. Same with the bearings- Ive heard people make a good case for why bearings dont need or shouldn't have lube applied, and if you work in super dusty dirty environments I might agree (if you do, just use the washers), but I use some form of lube on every bearing knife I own and it definitely dramatically improves the action. I usually use Hoppes No. 9 gun oil on all my knives, but ive used Nano oil and Daiwa Reel Oil too and they're good. Some people like KPL, but im not sure about the people who make the stuff so I choose not to buy it. You can also use rem oil pro as well as tuf glide if you want a dryer lube for less dirt attraction. For free-floating bearings like older IKBS and Ceramic IKBS, I usually use some sort of fluorinated grease/lithium grease. Oh, and always remember to lube the detent ball with a more liquid lubricant, not grease. Its always worked better, and usually if I have a dragging action, that's the source of the issue. Cheers!
@korwl540 4 жыл бұрын
on the scale side, what's the reasoning for having the spacer contacting the blade with the washer between the liner and spacer? wouldn't it make more sense to have the blade contacting the washers?
@45acpP90 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Thank you.
@markdiluciano8432 2 жыл бұрын
How can I get your tool, every site I have checked says unavailable
@aricschannel1 6 жыл бұрын
Can you mill my old XM 18 to accept this system? Also will the triway system be available on the XM 24?
@skycorrigan6511 4 жыл бұрын
I wish they made a standard all TI model.
@ericlancaster2402 2 жыл бұрын
Basic question I hope someone will answer: When installing the bearings, which way do they go in? Do you put the "open" side toward the blade or the "flat" side? Does it matter?
@LanningKann 2 жыл бұрын
Open side into the pockets. Show side should be the sealed side.
@codyflood6995 5 жыл бұрын
What's up with all the Mitch matched hardware on the XM-18? That's almost a deal breaker for me. I'm going to need 4 different bits to take apart one knife.
@voidfreevoidfree7542 5 жыл бұрын
Is the 0,062 thickness of bearing, or of a spacer for washer?
@chriskim9289 5 жыл бұрын
Quick question, What are the spacers for the washers made of?
@lucacadianalbert 6 жыл бұрын
I also had the same question as a few other folks - will you sell just the Phosphor bronze washers so existing XM-18 owners and at least try the PB instead of the teflon washers?
@NewAgeofAwesome 6 жыл бұрын
Luc Albert I’d like them all the other ones I’ve tried haven’t worked out some Hinderer pb’s would be great
@johnjohnson-gk4bw 6 жыл бұрын
I bought some PB washers for my XM24 off of ebay.
@nosaj03 6 жыл бұрын
Ive been wanting a skinner version. Is this going to be available in a 3' version as well? What dealers will have the new versions?
@ulissesmosca666 6 жыл бұрын
Great! 💫
@jonlipton9079 6 жыл бұрын
Can you use a coin to remove the pivot?
@vanderie8482 6 жыл бұрын
Yep! I've used a coin in a pinch to tighten the pivot so I'd imagine you can use them for disassembly; I just put my thumb on the back-side of the pivot and press to give some resistance so the pivot doesn't spin freely.
@damianblu 5 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@cavtj1 6 жыл бұрын
Rick, can you store the other bearings, not being used, in the knife like the Full Track? In any event, looking forward to getting one of these and the Full Track in my hand. Thanks for posting, dammit, guess I will eat next month! Your killing me man!
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
cavtj1 no only the Fulltrack will have the on board storage...Thanks a bunch!
@1002grunt 6 жыл бұрын
Will this work with the new maximus?
@rhythmtreble7311 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick, out of the three options, which do YOU personally prefer?
@HindererKnives 5 жыл бұрын
If I only could use the one option then I would go with the nylon! Best of both worlds!
@MrFroggy29 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from France. What is the knife in this video? Many thanks
@HindererKnives 4 жыл бұрын
This is the XM-18 with Skinner blade...thanks!
@quayron2138 4 жыл бұрын
IDEA: just an idea about product research and upgrade, if you produce this knife with 1 single kind of screw and all same, it would be more useful, so no need to worrt what kind of or how many different but people need to take it apart, my personal choice would be all t8, pivot screw and body screws all same, just a suggestion :),
@pannan80 5 ай бұрын
Qc could be better,my xm-18 3" seems to have a too small detent ball...so it rattles when closed. I'll never be able to find another one with the same color and blade combo....since nothing is ever in stock!
@Moribund_art 6 жыл бұрын
So as long as you don't want bearings it should work with Phosphor on old models right?
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
TacticalBadger yes the old models you can change those out with phosphor bronze just like before
@flicknfreckles 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have any recommendations on where to get some phosphor bronze washers for a older model 3in xm-18? I've seen one person mention a place, but said that they came really rough.
@85bcole 5 жыл бұрын
Do the washers differ from xm-18 to the xm-24?
@HindererKnives 5 жыл бұрын
No they are the same!
@seanrorie2081 6 жыл бұрын
Whats the longgevity of a ball bearing race sitting on the Ti lock bar side?
@rickhinderer4210 6 жыл бұрын
I observed the ZT knives that I have of my design that have the bearings and pockets the same as mine and with a lot of use and with the axial load such as the pivot was always tight I did not observe any excessive depth to the ball track in the titanium...remember this is 6al4v titanium which is a harder grade than CP Titanium
@kriztu 6 жыл бұрын
@@rickhinderer4210 hi Rick. Really curious on long term reports on this particular point. Awesome innovative idea this system btw, and thank you for still giving it a fair price for us consumers. God bless ☝
@WhatTheJon 6 жыл бұрын
when can we expect to start seeing the XM18 3''s with this new pivot system?
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
WhatTheJon very soon! We will be building the first batch of XM18 3in with the new system in about a week!
@WhatTheJon 6 жыл бұрын
hopefully some 3'' spearpoints in there!
@andrewclute3881 4 жыл бұрын
My pivot just keeps spinning, not sure how to fix that. Any suggestions?
@HindererKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Email us and we will be happy to help you out with that!
@chocolate_boy6287 5 жыл бұрын
Good day sir. Are you going to put the 3 way pivot system to the xm-24?
@HindererKnives 5 жыл бұрын
Yes we are. In fact all of the folders that we make from now on will have the Tri-Way system Thanks
@ReclusiveMountainMan 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the are available now.
@MattH-wg7ou 4 жыл бұрын
How do I buy one of these without paying $800 on secondary? Id like to get a 3.5 Spanto Tri-Way for an upcoming deployment but wow...those secondary market prices are waay too much for me personally for a knife I want to use hard.
@bansheekiller 4 жыл бұрын
DLT trading...
@bradleymadison2683 4 жыл бұрын
The secondary prices for these haven't been above retail for years. Check out r/knifeswap, the Hinderer BST group on FB, or the bladeforums marketplace.
@hansaddicks3240 6 жыл бұрын
Shit this is awesome lol. Hinderer makes the best knives dammit more money gone 😂
@gabrielayala718 6 жыл бұрын
Will this new technology be implemented on the xm24?
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Ayala yes absolutely! In fact we are working on a batch of XM24 with the new pivot system right now!
@Mr.Beastforpresident 6 жыл бұрын
Sure wish he'd start putting the lock bar relief on the inside like Sebenza! It's like owning a Ferrari that comes from the factory with a basketball size dent in the passenger quarter panel. Also why the lock bar has to be soo long???
6 жыл бұрын
A longer lock bar means longer lock life.
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
ElroyJosephJenkins JrTheThird it's because I feel that the lock is stronger with the titanium web closer to the centerline of the lock
@monarchpixels 3 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the driver
@jace1873 6 жыл бұрын
so this is just for the gen 5 xm?
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
j ace187 actually this new pivot system will take the XM18 series to the next generation....Gen 6
@jace1873 6 жыл бұрын
HindererKnives awesome, ill just hold off then. also i have been looking for quite a while for a xm18 3.5 with harpoon tanto. cannot seem to find one. will you be making more of that particular design and profile? plz lmk if might have one available. any color handle i plan on customizing anyway. prefer worki g finish but any will do.lol thanks for your time and response
@georgegreen3905 3 жыл бұрын
Out of all longest lasting is slightly greased phosphure bronze washers cause any at all dirt kills action of ball bearings and nylon don't last I know from experence
@optimuscrime608 3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you do videos anymore?
@HindererKnives 3 жыл бұрын
I will be adding new videos very soon!! Thanks! Rick
@optimuscrime608 3 жыл бұрын
@@HindererKnives That’s great news! Can’t wait to see some new content! This channel could really be huge if you keep it active!
@nobodysreview6137 2 жыл бұрын
My opinion is this. I have older versions and newer and i like the variety BUT not all in one knife. I run the bearings with the milled out newer blade because it's milled out and i don't mind the bearings, no way i'm puting those spacers in there just to run the bronze washers which if i had to choose i prefer over the bearings. I like the bearing model but what stinks is now you can't have a bronze washer model without the milled out blade for no reason. I'd rather give you more of my money and buy two knives or choose to buy one over the other then have the spacer in. I bet if you make a spacer version and one exactly the same without spacers both on bronze washers the bronze washer version without the milling for bearings will feel better. Also the spacer is more gaps and places for dirt or whatever to get inside and is just less pleasing to own unless your running bearings. Obviously for us loons willing to buy these expensive knives we are also looney enough to be bothered by stuff like this. To maintain sanity with these newer models i just run the bearings and i do like them but i mis the simple set up without the milled out blade for the bearings. Peace
@brocksdaddy081910 5 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance but isn’t this old news? Lots of company’s use these type of washers is it that this model allows you to choose which type you want?
@RSchwara1 6 жыл бұрын
got a set of finger nail clippers?
@HindererKnives 6 жыл бұрын
Rob Schwartz Those fingernails are my natural tweezers!
@blob2092 11 ай бұрын
i think you boughted a fake hinderer because there is no horse head on the blade?
@sigiligus 7 ай бұрын
Lmao you know this is the guy who makes these knives, right? You think he’d buy a fake of his own knife? He said in the video that it’s a demo model. The blade hasn’t even been sharpened.
@blob2092 7 ай бұрын
@@sigiligus you may be right, however, there are a lot of fake Hinderers out there, and one sure sign is the horse missing. Stay safe out there
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