History Buffs: Braveheart

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8 жыл бұрын

Well, you have all been asking for Braveheart and for this Christmas that's exactly what you're gonna get! Although this review may not look too kindly on what is regarded as one of the most historically inaccurate movies of all time.
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Braveheart is a 1995 historical drama epic film directed by and starring Mel Gibson. Gibson portrays William Wallace, a 13th-century Scottish warrior who led the Scots in the First War of Scottish Independence against King Edward I of England. The story is based on Blind Harry's epic poem The Actes and Deidis of the Illustre and Vallyeant Campioun Schir William Wallace and was adapted for the screen by Randall Wallace.
The film was nominated for ten Academy Awards at the 68th Academy Awards and won five: Best Picture, Best Makeup, Best Cinematography, Best Sound Editing, and Best Director.
Randall Wallace, who wrote the screenplay, has acknowledged Blind Harry's 15th century epic poem The Acts and Deeds of Sir William Wallace, Knight of Elderslie as a major inspiration for the film.[26] In defending his script, Randall Wallace has said, "Is Blind Harry true? I don't know. I know that it spoke to my heart and that's what matters to me, that it spoke to my heart."[26] Blind Harry's poem is now not regarded as historically accurate, and although some incidents in the film which are not historically accurate are taken from Blind Harry (e.g. the hanging of Scottish nobles at the start), [27] there are large parts which are based neither on history nor Blind Harry (e.g. Wallace's affair with Princess Isabelle).
Elizabeth Ewan describes Braveheart as a film which "almost totally sacrifices historical accuracy for epic adventure".[28] The "brave heart" refers in Scottish history to that of Robert the Bruce, and an attribution by William Edmondstoune Aytoun, in his poem Heart of Bruce, to Sir James the Good Douglas: "Pass thee first, thou dauntless heart, As thou wert wont of yore!", prior to Douglas' demise at the Battle of Teba in Andalusia.[29] It has been described as one of the most historically inaccurate modern films.[30]
Sharon Krossa notes that the film contains numerous historical errors, beginning with the wearing of belted plaid by Wallace and his men. In that period "no Scots ... wore belted plaids (let alone kilts of any kind)." Moreover, when Highlanders finally did begin wearing the belted plaid, it was not "in the rather bizarre style depicted in the film". She compares the inaccuracy to "a film about Colonial America showing the colonial men wearing 20th century business suits, but with the jackets worn back-to-front instead of the right way around."[31] "The events aren't accurate, the dates aren't accurate, the characters aren't accurate, the names aren't accurate, the clothes aren't accurate-in short, just about nothing is accurate."[32] The belted plaid (feileadh mór léine) was not introduced until the 16th century.[33] Peter Traquair has referred to Wallace's "farcical representation as a wild and hairy highlander painted with woad (1,000 years too late) running amok in a tartan kilt (500 years too early)." [34]
In 2009, the film was second on a list of "most historically inaccurate movies" in The Times.[30] In the humorous non-fictional historiography An Utterly Impartial History of Britain (2007), author John O'Farrell notes that Braveheart could not have been more historically inaccurate, even if a "Plasticine dog" had been inserted in the film and the title changed to William Wallace and Gromit.

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@nerblebun
@nerblebun 5 жыл бұрын
All serious historians know the true story of William Wallace. He was 7 ft. tall, shot fireballs from his eyes, and lightning bolts from his arse. The End
@a.t.t.g8359
@a.t.t.g8359 5 жыл бұрын
someone's played roll the boulder
@imlonelypleasehelp5443
@imlonelypleasehelp5443 5 жыл бұрын
Grandpa the Grey that sounds more like a famorian than a Scott
@a.t.t.g8359
@a.t.t.g8359 5 жыл бұрын
@@imlonelypleasehelp5443 oh sweet you like Celtic mythology too?
@imlonelypleasehelp5443
@imlonelypleasehelp5443 5 жыл бұрын
Alternate Timeline Theories & Games A.T.T.G it’s honestly one of the most interesting mythologies I have ever studied
@thebcr1012
@thebcr1012 5 жыл бұрын
Does that mean George Washington chopped down that cherry tree?
@rudyevans6479
@rudyevans6479 7 жыл бұрын
The scene where Princess Isabella and her friend are speaking French in order to avoid being understood forgets that the English royal household' daily language was French-- as they were Norman.
@gueststrivler
@gueststrivler 6 жыл бұрын
Good point - almost anyone of "class" in England OR Scotland would have understood her perfectly.
@wyvernskeep740
@wyvernskeep740 6 жыл бұрын
English was the peasants language ;)
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 6 жыл бұрын
which is what Wallace does in the movie- pretty much all the Scottish nobles would have had some knowledge of French.
@derdingsreturnsnochmal5177
@derdingsreturnsnochmal5177 6 жыл бұрын
They spoke Latin. Wallace changed it to French to show them, he can understand that too. Again though: latin was the lingva franca of medieval europe and it wasn't uncommon at all for nobles to be able to understand it. ... Oh I forgot: The Willy in the movie is a peasant ... :B
@roguishpaladin
@roguishpaladin 6 жыл бұрын
Edward I was tutored in English as a child, but he, as with most of the court, would have primarily spoken French. It is Edward III and Henry IV who really begin to move the language of the court to English.
@wolverinefangowings
@wolverinefangowings 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently someone asked Gibson why he shot the Battle of "Stirling" in a field. He told them the bridge got in the way. They replied "That's what the English found."
@loganbagley7822
@loganbagley7822 2 жыл бұрын
It kills me when King Edward orders his longbowmen to fire upon the English soldiers. The real Edward Longshanks might have been a cruel man but he wasn't stupid. It just seemed like the film wanted to portray Edward as some cartoon villain instead of a real person.
@ninjaa6952
@ninjaa6952 2 жыл бұрын
They always do this people now a adays think everything in history is like a written story lol when in reality humans are unpredictable most important people have done bad things.
@waynegoodman3345
@waynegoodman3345 2 жыл бұрын
He was a bad man obviously he's just played as a pantomime villian in this movie.
@ninjaa6952
@ninjaa6952 2 жыл бұрын
@@waynegoodman3345 everyone is bad if you look far enough there are no heroes in history only people that take advantage of a situation.
@dwl3006
@dwl3006 2 жыл бұрын
It killed his men too- zing!
@dwl3006
@dwl3006 2 жыл бұрын
@@waynegoodman3345 but surely someone like Longshanks, like he is depicted in Braveheart, must have existed at some point somewhere in Medieval European history.
@mitchellgeorge6031
@mitchellgeorge6031 3 жыл бұрын
“Historians from England will say I am a liar” Historians from Scotland and pretty much everywhere else say the same thing.
@Ricky_Spanishh
@Ricky_Spanishh 3 жыл бұрын
@callmecatalyst so what have you achieved? They set out to entertain people, which they did. No one thinks these movies are anywhere close to accurate.
@luklov8801
@luklov8801 3 жыл бұрын
@callmecatalyst you're english aren't you
@carteriffic1681
@carteriffic1681 3 жыл бұрын
@Keith Marshall this man’s on another level
@tomben6180
@tomben6180 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ricky_Spanishh Well he isn’t a Jew hating alcoholic
@DigOleBickInya
@DigOleBickInya 2 жыл бұрын
@callmecatalyst its a lengendary film. Historic accuracy may be off, but its still an epic movie
@raynwolfsbane2084
@raynwolfsbane2084 3 жыл бұрын
Braveheart is one of those movies that is damn near perfect as a piece of fiction but total hogwash as non-fiction.
@simounobrien9096
@simounobrien9096 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment is one of those comments that is 200% Perfect!!!!!
@quinnhunt6124
@quinnhunt6124 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, people should approach it like they would Star Wars or something of that nature.
@hebanker3372
@hebanker3372 3 жыл бұрын
You could change the names England and Scotland to Brettonia and Rohan and it could have been a good fantasy film.
@cockoffgewgle4993
@cockoffgewgle4993 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicelyput299 Then you understand cinema as much as Braveheart understands history.
@cockoffgewgle4993
@cockoffgewgle4993 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicelyput299 Not sure why you've included 300 in with 3 recognised classics. Lets be honest, most people who don't like Braveheart are sneering historians, people who don't like Mel Gibson or people who don't like the "politics" of the film (the English-hating, the gay guy being an effete weakling etc).
@luckyday465768
@luckyday465768 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine told me, that Braveheart and The Patriot are an angry Australians jab towards English nobility. Good way to sum it up.
@mog2182
@mog2182 Жыл бұрын
Another reason to like them
@therightarmofthefreeworld4703
@therightarmofthefreeworld4703 Жыл бұрын
That’s funny, as Robert the Bruce’s family origins are Norman, as was the case with much of the English nobility, and Wallace may have been Welsh.
@flaviuskevus9157
@flaviuskevus9157 Жыл бұрын
​@@msmissy6888and enormously good fun.
@Cybermat47
@Cybermat47 10 ай бұрын
I mean, if us Australians wanted to have a jab at upper-class English twats, we can just make an accurate movie about Gallipoli instead of making shit up. Wait, Mel Gibson was in a movie about Gallipoli! One made by the director of _Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World_ in fact!
@outlawfly664
@outlawfly664 10 ай бұрын
@@msmissy6888 They did however get the nature of the British imperialism accurate.
@safehallak
@safehallak 11 ай бұрын
Can we agree that James Horner did an amazing job with the score.
@jenfine
@jenfine 9 ай бұрын
Yes, as the score is the only good thing about this film.
@PauloRibeiro1978
@PauloRibeiro1978 9 ай бұрын
Amazing OST ❤❤
@Tebbypantgungun
@Tebbypantgungun 9 ай бұрын
Yes beautiful music but used the Irish pipes - not Scottish bag pipes in the themes!
@ryananthon8426
@ryananthon8426 8 ай бұрын
It’s an incredible score! Yes agree
@alisaurus4224
@alisaurus4224 7 ай бұрын
We absolutely can 🔥
@tonymason6599
@tonymason6599 3 жыл бұрын
So you’re telling me basically the only true thing in the movie is that William Wallace was Scottish correct? LOL
@evenstarelectricrailway3281
@evenstarelectricrailway3281 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jeffa818
@jeffa818 3 жыл бұрын
Actually there are some historians who claim he has Welsh ties lol
@lilgangster_savage8292
@lilgangster_savage8292 3 жыл бұрын
William washer machine was Dutch
@coolsidecool
@coolsidecool 3 жыл бұрын
No. He was Scottishish
@kendallandrews8691
@kendallandrews8691 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the general story is true if we mean general as really freaking general. William Wallace was a Scottish Rebel who had one major victory against the English at Sterling Bridge, lost a major battle at Falkirk then waged a guerilla campaign until he was betrayed by Scottish nobels before being tortured to death by the English. That actually happened and was the general plot of the movie. Pretty much every specific detail included in that is wrong though and any additional material is wrong.
@Rexcarsalot
@Rexcarsalot 7 жыл бұрын
"I'm a man of peace, I'm done killin', I wanna raise a family!" "That's just it Tim, they've got your family!" "NOOOO!!!!!"
@ASpooneyBard
@ASpooneyBard 6 жыл бұрын
"Tim, they've got your wife!" "But I'm not married!" "You are now: TO AMERICA!" "Get yourself a BODY BAG, STRAP yourself IN, start making friends THE AMERICAN WAY!"
@claudiuspulcher2440
@claudiuspulcher2440 6 жыл бұрын
If the English just stopped messing with Mel Gibson's families they would still have an Empire.
@Paws.of.Justice
@Paws.of.Justice 6 жыл бұрын
GTA
@littlejoe145
@littlejoe145 6 жыл бұрын
Tim I got toffee stuck in toof
@victorholmes7075
@victorholmes7075 5 жыл бұрын
Rated PG for Patriotic Garbage
@jongon0848
@jongon0848 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how 24 minutes was once considered an "extra long review" when u consider how long his reviews are now. (And I'm very grateful)
@Fidozo15
@Fidozo15 Жыл бұрын
Now he made 4 videos on Narcos Season 1 and 2… about 40 minutes each though
@q_7445
@q_7445 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the Battle of Stirling Bridge wasn't even on a bridge
@thomasmccaghrey9888
@thomasmccaghrey9888 2 ай бұрын
Apparently a local approached Gibson and asked where's the bridge. Gibson said it got in the way and the local replied aye that's what the English found out
@_Matsimus_
@_Matsimus_ 4 жыл бұрын
William Wallace is actually a T1000 and is a time travelling Scottish cyborg android killing machine. “Haggis la vista baby”
@evanremillard5640
@evanremillard5640 4 жыл бұрын
@Matsimus 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Fuck you I spray Mt. Dew out of my nose. Brilliant.
@TheDolphinator8
@TheDolphinator8 4 жыл бұрын
Matsimus makes more sense then what the movie said
@NaysayKen
@NaysayKen 4 жыл бұрын
Matsimus belter mate 😂😂
@808INFantry11X
@808INFantry11X 4 жыл бұрын
Hey brother nice to see you on this channel 2 of my favorite UK youtubers you guys should collab sometime.
@thomasedgington6223
@thomasedgington6223 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome
@sovietapples6122
@sovietapples6122 4 жыл бұрын
The most inaccurate thing about this movie is that Mel Gibson is in it. I’m 100% sure Mel Gibson wasn’t born in the Middle Ages
@negativezero8174
@negativezero8174 4 жыл бұрын
Many people think he was, however they mistake him for the famous Scott named Gibson Mel who infamously disrupted English supply lines.
@user-yj8pt7gt3g
@user-yj8pt7gt3g 4 жыл бұрын
Oh boy some people will get woooshed
@resileaf9501
@resileaf9501 4 жыл бұрын
Well he certainly has the right mentality, so, maybe?
@TheSuperQuail
@TheSuperQuail 4 жыл бұрын
Mel Gibson was born in the future after society collapsed.
@LordofDaggerfall
@LordofDaggerfall 4 жыл бұрын
80%. Now I'm questioning it.
@samg7430
@samg7430 Жыл бұрын
Mel Gibson: The problem with historical movies is... its full of history!
@treasonouspigeonpeckers957
@treasonouspigeonpeckers957 6 ай бұрын
Maybe he should make a movie on an Absolute Mad Lad like the guys Count Dankula covers. Maybe make a movie based on a guy in history but never acknowledge it
@darryllew
@darryllew 10 ай бұрын
what a hero he is, fought english twice, also fought int the vietnam war
@holf99
@holf99 8 жыл бұрын
you should do Troy next, I know it can't be accurate, Sean Bean didn't even die in that movie.
@DakkogiRauru23
@DakkogiRauru23 8 жыл бұрын
+holf99 it was actually quite faithful to the Iliad.
@24Matferrari
@24Matferrari 8 жыл бұрын
+Dominique Hipolito I disagree, Aeneas was in it for all of 15 seconds at the end when he gets that silly "sword of troy" I like the movie but not really accurate to the iliad at all
@DakkogiRauru23
@DakkogiRauru23 8 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Sunday lol I take it back. It was half faithful to the textbook, not the poem itself. Explains everything.
@MCShvabo
@MCShvabo 8 жыл бұрын
+holf99 But Troy is legend within itself, I don't really know if it counts as history.
@poontang3zizo
@poontang3zizo 8 жыл бұрын
+holf99 You do know that Troy is based on a poem right? i.e not history but legend.
@M0rshu64
@M0rshu64 3 жыл бұрын
The whole trope of a man wanting to live a quiet life on a farm, only for it to be destroyed by imperialists, so the man takes up arms and joins a rebellion makes me think of Star Wars.
@stephenwalsh2476
@stephenwalsh2476 3 жыл бұрын
And the patriot
@richardgadberry8398
@richardgadberry8398 3 жыл бұрын
Luke Skywalker is seven feet tall!
@Byronic19134
@Byronic19134 3 жыл бұрын
Its literally the story of mankind
@Bacxaber
@Bacxaber 3 жыл бұрын
Luke didn't enjoy the farm, he was planning on joining the imperial academy.
@PaddyInf
@PaddyInf 2 жыл бұрын
Star Wars is more historically accurate.
@undergroundwarrior70
@undergroundwarrior70 Жыл бұрын
What was missing in Mel Gibson's film 'Braveheart' was Hobbits, a Ranger (Strider) from the north, Elves, Dwarves and the power of an evil Ring. That just might have had this film a bit more convincing to the truth historically.
@mariakelly90210
@mariakelly90210 Жыл бұрын
You forgot Captain Christopher Pike and the crew of the USS Enterprise.
@johnp82
@johnp82 3 ай бұрын
The truth was that William Wallace led Scotland to independence from England in the 13th century. That's all that's needed, unless you're a pretentious snob.
@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek
@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek 3 ай бұрын
Mel gibson would hate lord of the rings
@EvaLorna
@EvaLorna Ай бұрын
And add a dragon and we're good
@coolguyhino92
@coolguyhino92 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they had the mindset of, "Scottish = Kilts & Face paint" is evidence enough that they literally knew nothing of the subject matter.
@juskahusk2247
@juskahusk2247 Жыл бұрын
It's more interesting for the viewer to see varied costumes and the battle scenes would be harder to follow if each side was composed of a huge amount of identical looking peasants and a much smaller number of knights wearing the same armour but each wearing individual surcoats.
@coolguyhino92
@coolguyhino92 Жыл бұрын
@@juskahusk2247 All well and good. Still one of the most inaccurate Historical films. Period.
@argyllrose4569
@argyllrose4569 Жыл бұрын
The kilts are a little silly, but they did wrap tartans around their armour and not the face paint argument again…Christ. People were wearing face paint for centuries before the 1300’s. Just because some dweeb in the 21st century posted some supposed “research” on the internet doesn’t make it fact. Here’s a tip, stop using a multimillion dollar corporation like Google for your history
@emilfrederiksen.1622
@emilfrederiksen.1622 2 ай бұрын
@@coolguyhino92 Who cares seriously? Cant you enjoy MOVIES that doesn't completely despict reality.
@coolguyhino92
@coolguyhino92 2 ай бұрын
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 "who cares" apparently YOU care a little to much about a 2 year old comment, from a random fukwit(me) online. I have MY own issues with the mindset of those who wrote/made the movie. But apparently YOU have issue with ANYONE who can't shut their brain off during movies. Get over it.
@magnuspeacock5857
@magnuspeacock5857 5 жыл бұрын
When we where studying the first war of Scottish independence, and the teacher couldn't be bothered teaching he put on this and told us to count the inaccuracies
@loner1878
@loner1878 4 жыл бұрын
The actual battle of Stirling Bridge sounds 100x more badass than some generic open field fight. How did they not go with that???
@sirderam1
@sirderam1 4 жыл бұрын
Because Mel Gibson wanted a cavalry charge in the film. There was no cavalry charge at Stirling Bridge. The sudden attack by the Scots drove the English infantry back into their own cavalry and both were driven back into rhe River Forth where they were drowned or slaughtered.
@vallidavis6914
@vallidavis6914 4 жыл бұрын
Insurance would not cover a river crossing battle.
@sirderam1
@sirderam1 4 жыл бұрын
@@vallidavis6914 I don't think anyone told Sir William Wallace or rhe Earl of Moray that! Clearly they needed better lawyers and a better Health & Safety team.
@Goosavich
@Goosavich 4 жыл бұрын
Mel Gibson has stated that filing ten battle on the bridge was too hard so for better shots he moved it to an open field.
@Kevo20
@Kevo20 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure I heard in a documentary that Mel wanted a bridge scene for the battle but they ran out time & budget.
@Gguy061
@Gguy061 4 ай бұрын
I'm disappointed Mel Gibson never screamed "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!"
@mojojojoslyfoxharris
@mojojojoslyfoxharris 2 жыл бұрын
Braveheart was the movie that made me realize that you can only take "Based on True Story" movie or TV series so much for granted and that thanks to videos like this, we can see just how really accurate these movies and TV shows are!
@cleothehermetichermeticist8391
@cleothehermetichermeticist8391 5 жыл бұрын
“Unless William Wallace was a teleporting pedophile-“ You can’t confirm he wasn’t especially not in this movie.
@Tornado1994
@Tornado1994 4 жыл бұрын
@John Bower Nobody knows. The True Story of William Wallace will never be known. All Accounts were destroyed by Edward I.
@chincrise
@chincrise 4 жыл бұрын
that would be like the most evil thing to exist
@simonstuart3402
@simonstuart3402 4 жыл бұрын
I find that hard to belive . There is so little documented about him yet we know this
@thespanishinquisition4078
@thespanishinquisition4078 4 жыл бұрын
@John Bower probably but not to this degree. Isabella was 9. Culturally in europe at the time the saying was "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed", yes exactly like the edgy joke goes nowadays. Point is because they were aware children too young couldn't, well, bear children, they didn't star the kid diddling until 12. Which is also when they got the "right" to marry (note the quotes), before that point it was a mere bethoral, meaning if any sex took place it was both illegal and highly heretical. So no, he would not have diddled isabella. Now if he was a muslim, those had the age or marriage at 6, so then he might... seriously islamic traditions related to sex and marriage were fucked up at the time, even for contemporary christians.
@eesaansari6794
@eesaansari6794 4 жыл бұрын
The Spanish Inquisition didn’t expect to see you on the comments...wait
@PANCAKEMINEZZ
@PANCAKEMINEZZ 3 жыл бұрын
"Ah, if only the Native Americans believed in freedom, then maybe they would've won" That line gets me every time
@jackandrew5676
@jackandrew5676 2 жыл бұрын
SehlraC lol.
@knarftrakiul3881
@knarftrakiul3881 2 жыл бұрын
Nah...they were too busy killing each other b4 1492
@nigelpilgrim4232
@nigelpilgrim4232 2 жыл бұрын
Well with continuous settlers! With the US army & their leaders taking their land !! & killing them & conning them for their land . I'm surprised a country did not support the natives!!
@KurdishTigers
@KurdishTigers 2 жыл бұрын
just win lamo soo simple
@kaliss7192
@kaliss7192 2 жыл бұрын
Eh they were too busy infighting to see the enemy over yonder lol.
@angbandsbane
@angbandsbane Жыл бұрын
As a history nerd, the movie makes me sob. As a movie nerd, this movie makes me shed a tear. (I'll admit it; the Bannockburn ending scene can legitimately make me misty-eyed.)
@kimberleysmith818
@kimberleysmith818 8 ай бұрын
I’m English and a historian and I love this movie. Massively inaccurate but brilliant movie!
@Shoelessjoe78
@Shoelessjoe78 7 ай бұрын
As long as we view it for what it is... Sometimes it's ok to enjoy a good film and detach from reality. There isn't a single accurate "War" film anyway.
@philster611-ih8te
@philster611-ih8te 7 ай бұрын
@@kimberleysmith818 Well I don't know, the movie recreates many actual events. The execution of Wallaces wife. The execution of Sheriff Hesselrig at Lanark. The battle of Stirling wasn't logistically possible to recreate on a bridge so it was decided to use an open field. Also for cinematic purposes. The battle of Falkirk, Wallaces capture and torture and execution was recreated. Obviously 700+ years might dim the exact details But it's also a movie not a historical document. I don't know why it gets so much stick about its accuracy when it surprisingly did recreate quite a few actual events.
@jgnogueira
@jgnogueira 6 ай бұрын
I liked the movie for what it was, but i hated the steryotypes that came from it.
@throatwobblermangrove8510
@throatwobblermangrove8510 6 ай бұрын
I can never unsee Seamus's rubber axe wobbling as he runs in the Battle of Bannockburn. It ruins that scene for me.
@conservativepineapples6203
@conservativepineapples6203 Жыл бұрын
I know, I know….. this movie is a train wreck of inaccuracies, but I will ALWAYS love it! My Scottish ancestors fought at Bannockburn and I’m still not bothered. The soundtrack alone is capable of drawing you in emotionally.
@Ross-ro1su
@Ross-ro1su 10 ай бұрын
Pleb
@conservativepineapples6203
@conservativepineapples6203 10 ай бұрын
@@Ross-ro1su Not sure why you felt compelled to insult me or if you just don’t know what pleb means?
@Ross-ro1su
@Ross-ro1su 10 ай бұрын
@@conservativepineapples6203 pleb
@conservativepineapples6203
@conservativepineapples6203 10 ай бұрын
@@Ross-ro1su Oooohh, good comeback!
@Ross-ro1su
@Ross-ro1su 10 ай бұрын
@@conservativepineapples6203 pleb
@theronstang
@theronstang 5 жыл бұрын
Best part of Braveheart was the musical score. Very moving.
@steveswitzer4353
@steveswitzer4353 5 жыл бұрын
this film made gave me a bowel movement
@ivorbiggun710
@ivorbiggun710 4 жыл бұрын
Nah. The best part was the end credits.
@tomfommber
@tomfommber 4 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@madmanvarietyshow9605
@madmanvarietyshow9605 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree, the score is fantastic. Second best part was the actress that played Princess Isabella. Not her acting I mean she's really hot. French accents man wooof
@mattbegley1345
@mattbegley1345 4 жыл бұрын
I also love the music... Unique and original.
@kytyoy5694
@kytyoy5694 3 жыл бұрын
The war paint and kilts is like the Founding Fathers wearing togas.
@elenarodriguez7809
@elenarodriguez7809 2 жыл бұрын
Well wouldn't it be like the founding fathers wearing jeans because kilts were post this time period lol
@andymac4883
@andymac4883 2 жыл бұрын
@@elenarodriguez7809 I once saw a historian describe the use of kilts in Braveheart (which are worn incorrectedly, no less, since they're clearly supposed to be belted plaids) to be akin to a movie about the American Revolution where everybody wears modern business suits, except they all have the jackets on backwards.
@oscarbelmare_22
@oscarbelmare_22 2 жыл бұрын
And with Aviator sunglasses
@argyllrose4569
@argyllrose4569 2 жыл бұрын
War paint was worn in Scotland way before William Wallace so putting that out of the picture is purely idiotic. Soldiers also wrapped tartans around themselves before the supposed “invention” date. Use your head, not Wikipedia
@kytyoy5694
@kytyoy5694 2 жыл бұрын
@@argyllrose4569 Thank you for correcting me.
@patrickkanas3874
@patrickkanas3874 8 ай бұрын
It actually is true that Wallace stated that he never declared allegiance to King Edward and thus could not be considered a traitor at his trial. In fact, one of the reasons for the massive uproar after his execution was because he was given a traitors punishment when he never officially declared allegiance to England
@simont1299
@simont1299 7 ай бұрын
Why was this movie so huge. Because in 1995 we didnt have ready access to google and couldnt easily just look up what the true story of william wallace was. We trusted what movies told us. At the time it was a great epic that tugged at the heart strings and told a great story.
@frankwallace5174
@frankwallace5174 5 ай бұрын
i agree. for a made up story, it was really well done. for accuracy, well that's a whole different story
@johnp82
@johnp82 3 ай бұрын
​@@frankwallace5174only pretentious, sneering snobs care about the historical inaccuracies. Besides, the basic plot of the movie is accurate, which is all you need for historical fiction.
@frankwallace5174
@frankwallace5174 3 ай бұрын
@@johnp82 agreed sir👍
@emilfrederiksen.1622
@emilfrederiksen.1622 2 ай бұрын
No the movie would hit the same way today. It has the same emotional impact now that it had in 1995.
@HorusDeathtouch
@HorusDeathtouch 4 жыл бұрын
Someone named Blind Harry probably isn't a good source of historical reference.
@SugarfreeYT
@SugarfreeYT 4 жыл бұрын
Saw it with his own, er, quill!
@isaacw1752
@isaacw1752 4 жыл бұрын
he wasn’t actually blind
@CyanoticFuture
@CyanoticFuture 4 жыл бұрын
Almost as bad as Dickless Henry the incorrigible
@Thorston_the_Just
@Thorston_the_Just 4 жыл бұрын
Skidmark Steve wasn't available since he was hanging out and playing Nintendo.
@NoahBodze
@NoahBodze 4 жыл бұрын
Right? Like Deaf JoJo, the record executive.
@qifangjenniferfu8767
@qifangjenniferfu8767 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who recognized “He was a man living on a farm in North Dakota” was a radio passage from GTA Vice city?
@Samanosuke001
@Samanosuke001 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh I see you are a man of culture as well xD
@emanuelb.2559
@emanuelb.2559 3 жыл бұрын
yes, you are the only one that played GTA Vice City
@griffredarmy
@griffredarmy 3 жыл бұрын
That's probably the best commercial in all of Vice City
@cinamaticfiction8921
@cinamaticfiction8921 2 жыл бұрын
Finally I'm with my type of people 🤣
@willma2625
@willma2625 2 жыл бұрын
Wallace was born in Elderslie, by Paisley. He was the second son of a nobleman. As his brother would have taken this father's place, a noble's second son was often sent off for education in the church. Wallace was educated at Paisley Abbey. (That's what I learned working at Paisley Abbey anyway!)
@muchanadziko6378
@muchanadziko6378 Жыл бұрын
I never knew Agamemnon and Lord Commander Mormont knew William Wallace.
@bradgooch1897
@bradgooch1897 Ай бұрын
😂
@peculiarpangolin4638
@peculiarpangolin4638 4 жыл бұрын
One of the big things you missed was brought up 10 years ago by Lindybeige: the whole film is about the FREEDOM of the Scottish commoners. Scottish independence means nothing to Scottish peasants- they had NO freedom that they wouldn't have under the English. The peasants were still under the same feudal system as the English; Scottish nobles were hardly different from the English ones; this wasn't about nations, but about dynasties.
@stephenpodeschi6052
@stephenpodeschi6052 4 жыл бұрын
The English followed by the Scottish Feudal system was started by William the Conquerer of Normandy after the battle of Hastings 1066 and was based on the French system....
@angusmcangus7914
@angusmcangus7914 4 жыл бұрын
Quite right. Call "the Bruce' by his real name, Robert (pronounce it Rho-ber) de Bruys. Norman baron. He was the Earl of Huntingdon too and as such owed fealty to Longshanks. This was as much about baronial rights as anything.
@bejoysen4468
@bejoysen4468 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody who makes these historical movies gives a fuck about the common man's life- it's all about "great men."
@christos49
@christos49 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I completley agree. I also hate how it shows that every peasant in scotland rallied to fight for wallace when it was proably only nobles and minor nobles as they were the ones with wealth to afford weapons and training prior to the war and they were the ones who did profit from the war unlike the peasants who would just exchange one Feudal overlord for another.
@sandybell4913
@sandybell4913 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, the only use by peasants when fighting were ones from a nearby town (I think it was Falkirk but I can’t remember which battle, it might have even been under Robert the Bruce) which were positioned upon a hill to make it seem like there were a lot more soldiers than there were in reality, destroying English morale
@chriswhitehead577
@chriswhitehead577 3 жыл бұрын
Irony of this review is that the movie literally opens with, "Historians from England will say I am a liar . . ."
@zenon9924
@zenon9924 3 жыл бұрын
Chris Whitehead hes from Schottland so
@garrettwinkler373
@garrettwinkler373 3 жыл бұрын
He lies
@robg521
@robg521 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you missed the bit about his family being Scottish then.🙄
@pempotfoy6206
@pempotfoy6206 3 жыл бұрын
@@zenon9924 yes we saw the video, the irony is still funny
@martinrjugah1911
@martinrjugah1911 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that a red flag from the start.
@hilariousname6826
@hilariousname6826 2 жыл бұрын
It bewilders me the number of people who come to a channel called 'History Buffs' and then complain because it talks about history ......
@BuildinWings
@BuildinWings Жыл бұрын
I'm really proud of my Scottish roots too, which is WHY I have a problem with Braveheart. It's like that episode of Futurama with Whalers on the Moon - Not just inaccurate, but reductive and weird.
@bigmacintosh1766
@bigmacintosh1766 9 ай бұрын
Understandable
@Amateur_Pianist_472
@Amateur_Pianist_472 7 жыл бұрын
"I guess the native Americans didn't believe in freedom hard enough." That is so hilarious and so bad haha.
@Menuki
@Menuki 6 жыл бұрын
Believing in freedom don't stop smallpox
@skilledwarman
@skilledwarman 6 жыл бұрын
Also they would be trying to out freedom the US. Not a great plan
@Ekergaard
@Ekergaard 6 жыл бұрын
Annette M. FYI I remember reading that the Scottish enlightenment thinker wasn’t nationalists. If true I can speculate they for that reason should not have like this movie. But as you know here we really, really miss the point. The point was of course to make fun of Hollywood's idea that battles are won by inspirational speeches. To take a newer example Wonder woman apparently includes an example of that.
@SardaukarNo1
@SardaukarNo1 5 жыл бұрын
sorry but rural natives were wiped out (90 percent) by small pox (which killed 400k europeans annually) , flu,and measles (which killed millions of europeans as well).
@LeCharles07
@LeCharles07 5 жыл бұрын
@@SardaukarNo1 I bet that long walk to Oklahoma was just for exercise. 90% my ass, people killed more people than any pathogen did.
@samrevlej9331
@samrevlej9331 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know that even the movie's title is wrong? "Braveheart" was the nickname given to King Robert the Bruce, not William Wallace. Wallace's death as a martyr actually did more for the Scottish cause than his actions ever did. Robert the Bruce was the true Scottish national hero. Outlaw King has such a better take on it. And historical accuracy. And acting. And - it's just better, okay?
@jasonissel217
@jasonissel217 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Outlaw King gave honor to the real events and gave a true screen presence to King Robbert. Yes, that was the other thing that annoyed me how they gave King Robbets title to Wallace for storytelling reasons...
@MidNiteR32
@MidNiteR32 2 жыл бұрын
No Braveheart was better.
@coyote4326
@coyote4326 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the fact that Wallace was a horrible tactician, and it was actually the other Scottish commander on the field who led Scotland to victory at the battle of Stirling Bridge.
@coyote4326
@coyote4326 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonissel217 One thing we don't see enough of, in my opinion, is how Robert the Bruce tried to send his younger brother to invade Ireland during the First Scottish War of Independence.
@argyllrose4569
@argyllrose4569 2 жыл бұрын
Do you enjoy lying to yourself and others? You’re a disgrace
@gavindron7511
@gavindron7511 10 ай бұрын
Took me a while to realise where I'd heard the audio around 3:10 - gta vice city radio haha
@thumpyloudfoot864
@thumpyloudfoot864 5 жыл бұрын
"The only historically accurate movies Mel Gibson has ever been a part of are the Mad Max movies" - Dave Douglas - September 23rd 2059
@Tracer_Krieg
@Tracer_Krieg 4 жыл бұрын
*I point to We Were Soldiers* That is the one exception to the rule.
@RaiderDave-xe1pn
@RaiderDave-xe1pn 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tracer_Krieg Actually, that movie got a few things wrong as well.
@erestube
@erestube 4 жыл бұрын
Coming soon to a corner of America near you!
@Ethan-mp7wr
@Ethan-mp7wr 4 жыл бұрын
RaiderDave2112 Yes, so did Hacksaw Ridge. But.. Mel Gibson has improved since then.
@murtd3268
@murtd3268 4 жыл бұрын
Watch Gallipoli its excellent and mel Gibson is excellent in it
@seanmckee6835
@seanmckee6835 5 жыл бұрын
William Wallace wasn’t even Braveheart. Historically, Robert the Bruce was called Braveheart. They didn’t even get the name right.
@cannonball666
@cannonball666 4 жыл бұрын
It was originally "of Brus" but it became anglicized.
@toby099
@toby099 4 жыл бұрын
@sheldon pereira He was of Norman descent so Robert of Bruce means his family would have come from somewhere called Brus or Bruce in France
@SugarfreeYT
@SugarfreeYT 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, do you have a source for that? I can't find one. Googling 'Robert the Bruce Braveheart' and similar phrases just returns pictures of Angus Macfadyen and articles about the movie.
@arranmelaugh5606
@arranmelaugh5606 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Braveheart was the sword?
@martyfeldman3269
@martyfeldman3269 4 жыл бұрын
Arthur Nichols. That’s it. all the Scottish nobles were of Norman decent, and so were the English nobles . And de Wallace he was from Welsh Norman ancestry. Longshanks was from the Plantagenet dynasty and they were a French noble family that married into the Norman kingdom over a French territory dispute. That brought England centuries of war with France. Hardly any of these people were pure English or Scots, and were of the same blood. These American versions of British history blame everything on the English, but never tell the story of the Norman invasion of England which changed British and Irish history for ever.
@Anamnesis
@Anamnesis 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think of Braveheart the same way as Gladiator: alternate history. They are inspired by true events, but told with a variety of "what if" scenarios thrown in (sometimes for dramatic license, sometimes by mistake) to make you think about how things could have played out differently in the service of a character driven story. Is it disappointing that Braveheart isn't a biopic documentary? Yeah, kind of. But the ancient myths told by oral tradition in the times before details started to get accurately written down probably weren't always accurate either, which is part of the reason nobody really knows the who, what, where, when, and why of so many ancient tales. Movies today are our version of the fireside stories told centuries ago: true to an extent, but exaggerated and in some cases altered to make them exciting, memorable, and to teach important life lessons.
@MsJaytee1975
@MsJaytee1975 2 жыл бұрын
What does Braveheart teach that’s good? Because I don’t think Scotland needs more nationalism or misogyny.
@kellyryan294
@kellyryan294 Жыл бұрын
@@MsJaytee1975 This comment is sure to make the girls damp. Grow a set.
@davemccage7918
@davemccage7918 Жыл бұрын
@@MsJaytee1975 tell me you’re a feminist, w/o telling me you’re a feminist.
@WankersCramp69
@WankersCramp69 Жыл бұрын
I'm English, I lived in Scotland around the time this movie came out. Sure I was used to a bit of teasing, but after this movie I was essentially exiled by the other children who simply didn't know any better, the bullying me and my brothers got was bad. Whilst the directors wanted to make an epic drama they forgot that portraying real life history falsely as some fairy-tale can actually have harmful effects. Overnight I became the bad guy because of some stupid fucking movie.
@aliazgarrakib3139
@aliazgarrakib3139 Жыл бұрын
If thay portrayed real story, you will be considered evil then also Because English was bad guy that story too 😢😂
@UKMacMan
@UKMacMan Жыл бұрын
I concur with this, the same thing happened to me. and If I am honest, the nationalism this movie provided has been used by the political elites in Scotland in a continued campaign of anti English feeling. I mean, just as a low key example, the SNP will mention on social medial all the patron saints of the UK when their day comes round, EXCEPT George. They and their sizeable followers can say all day long they don't hate the English, the hate the UK government, but not saying Happy Saint George day, when you say it to all other UK members, just stinks of Anti English. And thats the weakest example... you can easily pick up a paper on any given day and see the SNP having a go.
@MerrilMicra
@MerrilMicra 8 ай бұрын
I do remember being warned this movie would make me hate the English 😂😂
@footballdesk4417
@footballdesk4417 6 ай бұрын
Lol the bong got bullied. Boohoo
@invisibleman4827
@invisibleman4827 5 ай бұрын
​@@UKMacManIt's a subtle under-the-surface prejudice which makes it more insidious, especially as the film is essentially a piece of Nationalist propaganda because it was based on a sort of Nationalist poem.
@Veyron_fan
@Veyron_fan 4 жыл бұрын
I swear right at the start you said "insanely accurate". Didn't you mean to say "inaccurate"?
@familyread7889
@familyread7889 4 жыл бұрын
He did,I heard it too
@WRXDaDa
@WRXDaDa 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I’m in the comments
@nickpastorino5370
@nickpastorino5370 4 жыл бұрын
It's called sarcasm.
@royalblue5367
@royalblue5367 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickpastorino5370 Nope, listen to the full statement, it was clearly a mistake.
@SailorCharts
@SailorCharts 4 жыл бұрын
I remember an annotation correcting his mistake before those got removed
@brooksblair802
@brooksblair802 4 жыл бұрын
Monty python is more historicaly acurate
@keeganowens8949
@keeganowens8949 4 жыл бұрын
That's the sad thing...
@KatRo13834
@KatRo13834 4 жыл бұрын
I'm almost positive I heard one of the Scottish warriors say "Ni."
@keeganowens8949
@keeganowens8949 4 жыл бұрын
@@KatRo13834 Well, I mean, that is an actual word in Gaeilge.
@theogballer5957
@theogballer5957 4 жыл бұрын
The French are a more proud, noble people in Monty Python.
@KatRo13834
@KatRo13834 4 жыл бұрын
@@keeganowens8949 Don't oppress me, Reg.
@gaydes1012
@gaydes1012 2 жыл бұрын
the plot even has parallels to the first Mad Max as Max is trying to live a peaceful life with his family and doesn't actually go kill the toe-cutter's gang until after they murder his family, so that's 3 Mel Gibson movies that share a similar plot
@dustbusterblackdecker6487
@dustbusterblackdecker6487 2 жыл бұрын
As fun and entertaining Braveheart was, it's appreciated to know what actually happened!
@muttleycrew
@muttleycrew 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when this film came out leaving the theatre feeling ripped off and thinking “they may well take our cash but they’ll never take our critical thinking”
@swenhtet2861
@swenhtet2861 3 жыл бұрын
Muttley 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@seanosborn3272
@seanosborn3272 3 жыл бұрын
Can you laugh for us Muttley?
@muttleycrew
@muttleycrew 3 жыл бұрын
Sean Osborn no! hehehehhehehe
@Krissada1000
@Krissada1000 3 жыл бұрын
:D
@delta2372
@delta2372 3 жыл бұрын
Only thing good braveheart does is it's soundtrack but a good soundtrack can't carry a bad film
@szithaanu9934
@szithaanu9934 5 жыл бұрын
Another inaccuracy, although technically not historical, was that the music we hear in the movie is played on the Irish Uillean Pipes and not the Scottish Bag Pipes. Supposedly this was because the Uillean Pipes fitted better in an orchestra than the Bag Pipes.
@ElizabethJones-pv3sj
@ElizabethJones-pv3sj 4 жыл бұрын
As you say, not a historical inaccuracy as the modern Scottish war pipes are the sole survivor (in Scotland) of the many historical variations on bagpipes. In Scotland the war pipes, survived as a way to inspire Scottish regiments in battle (i.e. meant to be loud and be heard over long distances) and therefore they totally wouldn't fit with an orchestra. A different relationship with England meant the Irish had little local military and therefore a form of bagpipes designed for playing indoors survived into the modern era. Bagpipes very similar to the modern Irish form would have been entirely accurate for just about any country in Europe throughout the middle ages.
@jgw5491
@jgw5491 4 жыл бұрын
Also speaking of music, the tune to "Black Is the Color of my True Love's Hair" as used in the soundtrack was written in the early 20th century by John Jacob Niles, an American.
@CJ-im2uu
@CJ-im2uu 4 жыл бұрын
The pipes were a F'g joke! -- Bill Connolly on the Scots adopting the bagpipes.
@williammcilwraith9304
@williammcilwraith9304 4 жыл бұрын
It was filmed in Ireland
@wizzykms
@wizzykms 4 жыл бұрын
I thought he was bout to say the music didn’t play irl lmao 😂 😂
@infeedel7706
@infeedel7706 Жыл бұрын
Becoming a fan for the second time around. Love the shredding of this "telling of history". Even though I was born an Englishman, Scotland took my heart when I visited in the 90s...
@danielannett1019
@danielannett1019 Жыл бұрын
Little fact About Edward 1st The reason he was nicknamed longshanks is because he was in real life 6ft2 and in medieval times the average height of a full grown mam wae 5ft7 so for the time Edward was a giant
@c17sam90
@c17sam90 2 жыл бұрын
I love how most Mel Gibson action films he has a wife or daughter or son and they are killed horribly and he looks up at the sky and goes “NOOOO” then goes round killing people and in the case of Braveheart he gets over his dead wife very fast and sleeps with that other lady very fast.
@TheMasterhomaster
@TheMasterhomaster 2 жыл бұрын
In every Hollywood action movie the male (90% usually white, 10% black, and never Asian or another race) protagonist usually has sex with a female character. That’s how audiences know they’re a stud, aside from kicking everyone’s asses. It’s a hackneyed trope.
@c17sam90
@c17sam90 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMasterhomaster what doesn’t make sense with Braveheart however is historically he never meets the princess and she was 3 at the time so it’s pointless.
@c17sam90
@c17sam90 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGreatPerahia this is none directed works as well though
@isabellaangeline2175
@isabellaangeline2175 2 жыл бұрын
It’s like Sean Bean dying in almost every movie he appears.
@nevermind-he8ni
@nevermind-he8ni 2 жыл бұрын
Started with Mad Max.
@TheCyberwolf85
@TheCyberwolf85 4 жыл бұрын
As a scotsman, I applaud this review 👏
@anthonylewis9256
@anthonylewis9256 4 жыл бұрын
Do you talk like the mini schnauzer from lady and the tramp ?
@sgtsteven
@sgtsteven 3 жыл бұрын
Naw, we talk like this ya BAWBAG
@stephenmcdonagh2795
@stephenmcdonagh2795 3 жыл бұрын
Not surprised with the way it portrays Robert The Bruce as a sneak.
@CornishCreamtea07
@CornishCreamtea07 3 жыл бұрын
Are you also descended from the Clan Donnachaidh?
@danielewing4782
@danielewing4782 3 жыл бұрын
Good review but the way he pronounced Falkirk makes me cringe 😂
@Otaku155
@Otaku155 2 жыл бұрын
As a direct descendant of the brother of the real Sir William Wallace, I thank and applaud you sir!
@festushaggen2563
@festushaggen2563 11 ай бұрын
Never watched this looking for a history lesson. Just a good film that was well written, acted and directed. On that it delivers. It's a classic in my house.
@Enkarashaddam
@Enkarashaddam 3 жыл бұрын
"Before you say I'm picking on the movie because I'm English"... hmmm sounds like something an Englishman would say... lol jk
@louisbarraud7853
@louisbarraud7853 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an Englishman and Mel Gibson hating on us doesn't really matter to me
@PureSwedishViking
@PureSwedishViking 3 жыл бұрын
@@louisbarraud7853 It’s still only half as bad as what he thinks about the jews.
@willis32
@willis32 3 жыл бұрын
@@louisbarraud7853 I'm scottish and this movie is insulting
@Valery0p5
@Valery0p5 3 жыл бұрын
"So:🖕There! Pfft!"
@karlseider6237
@karlseider6237 7 жыл бұрын
With all of the inaccuracies in this movie, I'm supprised you didn't mention the most glaring issue: William Wallace was never called "Brave Heart", in fact that was Robert the Bruce's cognomen.
@sce2aux464
@sce2aux464 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have said that Robert was the actual protagonist in this movie.
@karlseider6237
@karlseider6237 7 жыл бұрын
Touche!
@pathutchison7688
@pathutchison7688 7 жыл бұрын
His dad used to call him brave heart so wrong again Chauncey.
@tsloan2100
@tsloan2100 6 жыл бұрын
Still a good film though.
@dovahkiinkhajiitmaster6295
@dovahkiinkhajiitmaster6295 Жыл бұрын
Braveheart is easily one of the greatest movies ever made. Despite all the historical inaccuracies, you can’t deny it of being a great watch.
@patrickkanas3874
@patrickkanas3874 2 жыл бұрын
Full disclosure, I love this movie. But that's because I don't watch it as a historical movie, I watch it as a fictional movie inspired by historical events. Suspension of disbelief is what makes this either a great or terrible movie for the viewer
@SparkThaMetal
@SparkThaMetal Жыл бұрын
Sadly thats not what happened in real life. This was literally a propaganda film and resulted in groups of scots attacking any English at the showings and a rise in anti English sentiment within Scotland. Which is the exact reason you dont mess with history.
@matthewct8167
@matthewct8167 6 жыл бұрын
What bothers me is that they misrepresented the English nobility because they all were fluent in French. So the French chicks speaking French hoping the English don’t understand them is idiotic.
@willm623
@willm623 5 жыл бұрын
Inaccurate? Yes. But idiotic? in reality, the English soldiers would have been speaking middle English, which would be impossible for modern audiences to understand. The nobility would speak French, and the Scots would be speaking Gaelic. Does anyone really think that it would have been feasible to do this film in original languages? This History Buff guy really has it in for Mel Gibson. I like Dances with wolves, but Braveheart is a superior film.
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 5 жыл бұрын
@@willm623 Agreed. Although, Dances With Wolves was done to death in American literature
@mango4ttwo635
@mango4ttwo635 5 жыл бұрын
Fluent in French? It was their mother tongue
@mango4ttwo635
@mango4ttwo635 5 жыл бұрын
This History Buff guy really has it in for Mel Gibson. With fucking reason
@irrelevant_noob
@irrelevant_noob 5 жыл бұрын
will m who are you replying to? Matt only pointed out the idiocy of using French as a "secret" language, i see NOTHING implying that he thinks the different languages of the time should've been used accurately. Only that that part of the plot should've been better written.
@jackssense4055
@jackssense4055 4 жыл бұрын
When I was in the 9th grade there were two girls in my art class talking about how hot Mel Gibson was, and how they had no guilt watching Braveheart because it was a history lesson. When I bought up the first line from the movie they called me a prude. I'm glad someone else finally pointed out the fact that the movie opens by saying, "what follows is probably rubbish."
@SydneyLarrikin-ci2vz
@SydneyLarrikin-ci2vz Ай бұрын
When they showed clips of the Patriot, that jogged my memory, being in a cardio movie theater at a gym and watching the Patriot on the DVD projector And this woman comes in, gets on an exercise bike and starts playing candy crush for a while. At some point she asked "is this Braveheart?" 😂
@pgm3
@pgm3 2 жыл бұрын
On top of everything most of the film was shot in Ireland (some in Arizona!) the extras are Irish military, and the pipes you keep hearing are Uillean pipes, Irish pipes whose modern form as heard on the soundtrack date to about 1800.
@ronaldpalmer451
@ronaldpalmer451 3 жыл бұрын
Even the title is not historically accurate it was Robert the Bruce that was known as Braveheart
@theguyishere249
@theguyishere249 3 жыл бұрын
Ronald palmer to be fair if the movie was more accurate, I could forgive the title.
@ronaldpalmer451
@ronaldpalmer451 3 жыл бұрын
@@theguyishere249 If they get the easiest part of being accurate wrong what chance do they have in getting the hard parts correct
@EmperorJ123
@EmperorJ123 3 жыл бұрын
Wallace was "A Bravehert"
@o0ShadowCat0o
@o0ShadowCat0o 2 жыл бұрын
The movie follows Wallace, but it is told from the perspective of Robert. He recounts Wallace's legend and narrates half of the movie.
@kristofantal8801
@kristofantal8801 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmperorJ123 No...
@laytonpro8655
@laytonpro8655 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, as someone from Scotland, we don’t think your hating on it cause your English. We either hate it or laugh at how inaccurate it is. Anyone who has at most had history in secondary knows how stupid it is and sometimes younger. I grew up near Loudoun hill so the Scottish wars of independence were practically drilled into my head
@tomasxfranco
@tomasxfranco 6 жыл бұрын
*you're
@lucinae8510
@lucinae8510 5 жыл бұрын
As a Englishman and former history buff, I hated it. It was offensive to both cultures, and oversimplified the English and Scotts to cartoon-level good guys and horrible bad guys. As a film lover, I thought it was OK. The story and scale of the film was admirable, but obviously done for Hollywood to make a rags to Jesus story. And there were other historical films from the same year like Sense and Sensibility, Apollo 13 and Nixon. Of course they're not very accurate either, but they took their time showing the flaws and development of the main characters and villains, and they showed events unfold in a naturalistic way not from act 1: introduction to act 2: conflict. And by the end, what I really loved about them was it being your decision if you rooted for the MC's or despised the villains.
@mrcaboosevg6089
@mrcaboosevg6089 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't even matter, even in the film the Scottish lost and the film itself made out like the Scots were idiots. In reality the English were scarred shitless of the Scots
@ALBA-js3um
@ALBA-js3um 4 жыл бұрын
Donald Mackay There has only been 2 wars between Scotland and England. Scotland has won both of them. There have been many other conflicts over the years but not wars as such as the Wars of Independence. The Scots won more battles than the English in the 1st war. Especially after 1306. The English won more battles in the Second war of Independence. However, the Scots still won the war. As a Scotsman, you should brush up on your history.
@ninjaa6952
@ninjaa6952 2 жыл бұрын
@@ALBA-js3um scots lost the second war of independence as England moved onto fight France. Also the Scottish lost badly in the battle of flodden and pinkie 30 years apart from eachother where most of the Scottish nobility was wiped out.
@JohnCarter-vo8ux
@JohnCarter-vo8ux 6 ай бұрын
Now I want a History Buffs about Robin Hood: Men In Tights.
@annamcivor4196
@annamcivor4196 Жыл бұрын
Hi History Buff, really enjoy your videos! Another inaccuracy about Clan tartans is that these weren't really a thing for Clans. Yeah some Clans did have preferences for tartans and such but didn't have a specific type, this is merely an invention of the 19th century and romantics. That of course doesn't make tartans fraudulent or anything and the one you wore looks very nice! X
@tscream80
@tscream80 4 жыл бұрын
17:19 Random Extra on Set: "Where's the bridge?" Gibson: "The film crew found it too difficult to work around." Random Extra: "Aye, that's what the English found." ;)
@WorkOutFailDOTcom
@WorkOutFailDOTcom 3 жыл бұрын
1:11 "ITS INSANELY ACCURATE!"
@TheDJMeyer85
@TheDJMeyer85 4 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised there was no mention of the future queen being pregnant with Wallace’s baby 😂
@evenstarelectricrailway3281
@evenstarelectricrailway3281 3 жыл бұрын
Because it didn't happen at all. Our channel master, Mr. Hodges of the Bobertson Clan, already stated in this video that Princess Isabella was both the following when William Wallace was executed: 1. 9 years old 2. still living in France
@beemoji2280
@beemoji2280 3 жыл бұрын
You mean the future queen who wasn't even in England yet at the time of Wallace? And she would've been about 10 at the time. Now somebody should do a movie about her. Isabella was something else and became known as the she-wolf of France. She came by it naturally. Her father was Phillip the Fair, the French King who destroyed the Knights Templar.
@michaelsinger4638
@michaelsinger4638 3 жыл бұрын
@@beemoji2280 Isabella ended up being quite the badass herself later on. The She-wolf and all that. Hey Hollywood, make THAT movie.
@paradisecityX0
@paradisecityX0 3 жыл бұрын
@@beemoji2280 You can find her in "A World Without End" (2012)
@arturoaqm2812
@arturoaqm2812 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsinger4638 Agreed.That would be a film !!!
@user-xr7nh1hd9o
@user-xr7nh1hd9o 7 ай бұрын
Mr. Hodges please keep your history buff channel open I respect you very much you've opened my eyes to accurate
@tucke4wayne540
@tucke4wayne540 2 жыл бұрын
doesn't matter how inaccurate it is. loved this movie as a little kid. For me this movie means me and my family all sitting together and forgetting about everything else going on, and enjoying the film while talking in funny accents and sword fighting with whatever was on hand, inevitably crying at the end every time.
@jacknewman9256
@jacknewman9256 2 жыл бұрын
No offense but you as a kid had kind of a weird family
@henryvelez3938
@henryvelez3938 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacknewman9256 nah you meant to be offensive
@adaptivegamer9905
@adaptivegamer9905 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacknewman9256 how..? You clearly lack a family lol a loving one at least.
@MasonStevens9863
@MasonStevens9863 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacknewman9256 "Oh no, a person enjoying themselves? Now, I must strike" - jack newman
@IgaTenzen
@IgaTenzen 5 ай бұрын
@@henryvelez3938the “ no offense BUT” gets me every time .Also his family sounds awesome!
@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan
@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how accurate lord of the rings is. I remember when we defeated the forces of evil in new Zealand. Thank god Gandalf was sent from the magical kingdom of the United States to look for Sauron's weapons of mass destruction.
@argentorangeok6224
@argentorangeok6224 4 жыл бұрын
Savage Kiwis just needed some freedom.
@samuelbarber4154
@samuelbarber4154 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Ian McKellen was British.
@ambassadoryee3756
@ambassadoryee3756 4 жыл бұрын
They rode the eagles to mordor IRL
@fastyaveit
@fastyaveit 4 жыл бұрын
Problem with braveheart is the Scots decided it was true and wanted independence ever since
@feliperuiz7559
@feliperuiz7559 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 6”3 and considered tall by today’s standards imagine being 6”5 like Wallace back in the day , what an intimidating figure.
@feliperuiz7559
@feliperuiz7559 4 жыл бұрын
The Strawberry Pimp if you are not fat most definitely you are
@davidec.4021
@davidec.4021 4 жыл бұрын
Charlemagne was over 1.90m
@stucody
@stucody 4 жыл бұрын
It's another myth about people being smaller back then
@rosierose8549
@rosierose8549 4 жыл бұрын
That may be true. But 6" 5 is hella tall by any standard.
@TheBfutgreg
@TheBfutgreg 4 жыл бұрын
Way before whey protein
@curtis7599
@curtis7599 Жыл бұрын
"The Scots actually used clever tactics instead of clever speeches". 😆
@bsaneil
@bsaneil 4 ай бұрын
The film at least has it right in the fashion sense. William wallace was into 'vintage' as well as beng a trend setter. He wore woad 1000 years after everyone else in Scotland stopped using it, but wore kilts 300 years before any other Scotsman decided to wear them. Brilliant!
@mrbloodhound009
@mrbloodhound009 3 жыл бұрын
Opening with "it's insanely accurate" followed by talking about how inaccurate the movie is was kind of confusing at first.
@djnotnice8416
@djnotnice8416 3 жыл бұрын
This threw me off at first too but I just convinced myself the he said "this movie is insane inaccurate"
@ryaffus7208
@ryaffus7208 3 жыл бұрын
Might be sarcasm, Don't forget he's british, primary language is sarcasm followed by English. " _It's Insanely accurate_ "
@jayanthony3006
@jayanthony3006 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryaffus7208 Yeah, but it's still very confusing and "insanely" is normally used in a postive and not in negative way. If sarcasm was intended, then insanely was probably the wrong choice of adjective to use here and the emphasis in his voice doesn't really imply sarcasm. I think it was a simple mistake in wordchoice due to the fact, that he was pissed of at the inaccuracy!^^
@cliffordb6
@cliffordb6 3 жыл бұрын
Very!
@DoNkEy_LoVE
@DoNkEy_LoVE 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see other people noticed this...i thought I had turned stupid or something.
@wrenzenzen3645
@wrenzenzen3645 5 жыл бұрын
The main problem is that people buy into the myth. Braveheart has perpetuated a false belief in Scottish popular culture that Robert the Bruce was some sort of Judas, when this was simply not the case. This is why that film is so damaging, it prevents everyone (regardless of their national identity) from seeing how great Robert the Bruce the man really was. He was able to achieve such greatness in his lifetime against what should have been impossible odds. It really is an inspirational story. Yet Braveheart shows him as some weak side character, this is the definition of a travesty.
@SolarDragon007
@SolarDragon007 5 жыл бұрын
@murray1234567891011 To be fair, I don't think Braveheart portrays him like a "cartoon villain". He's easily the most fleshed out/sympathetic of the Scottish nobles, and we do see him get a bit of redemption at the end when he leads the Scots against the English once again.
@timmyt603
@timmyt603 5 жыл бұрын
My name is Timothy but Robert was definitely a better Bruce than I could ever be.
@georgechristie9464
@georgechristie9464 5 жыл бұрын
He was French
@mreudy9488
@mreudy9488 5 жыл бұрын
I am a descendant of william wallace. I also have a degee i history. Innacurate...romantisized ? Yeah. Still...a pretty good movie. Movies are for escape like a good book and it was good for that at least. Hollywood will never get history movies right. Life is messy at best , not a romatic story of a brave knight protecting the princess( and not raping her). Im about to watch Mary queen of Scott's knowing full well its B.S. but hey...it looks good.
@sagan666
@sagan666 5 жыл бұрын
If that's the case, people need to pick up a book.
@Icestorm115
@Icestorm115 2 жыл бұрын
"On second thought. Let's not watch Braveheart. It is a silly film..." "Right..." "Right..."
@lucarmin9683
@lucarmin9683 2 жыл бұрын
I heard the reason why Wallace started his war against the English waa because of a fight over a bucket of fish between Wallace and an English soldier
@ThomasTrue
@ThomasTrue 5 жыл бұрын
As a movie buff, I like Braveheart as a good yarn, nothing more. But as a Scot heavily into my country's history, it's a huge embarrassment. I also worry about the number of Scots who think it's accurate, and you summed it up, that it cheapens Wallace. Also, as an Edinburgher, I can't handle Edinburgh Castle depicted as a wooden-pallisade fort on a flat plane. Edinburgh Castle stands atop a basalt rock outcrop - once a volcanic vent, at the head of the inclined ridge on which the city was built, and which forms Edinburgh's 'Royal Mile'. BTW, Falkirk is pronounced "fall-kirk". A minor thing, I know, but it still grates on the nerves a wee bit to hear a Robertson mispronounce it. Oh, and the archers at Falkirk were Welsh, not English. They almost refused to fight for Edward Longshanks after a fight between them and the English broke out after they landed at Dunbar. Otherwise, a great review, and I actually learned a few things I wasn't aware of.
@frankcastle9691
@frankcastle9691 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, as an American my knowledge of European history is very limited. I was told from somewhere that Robert the Bruce played a bigger part in Scottish history than William Wallace. But I could be wrong.
@Gamble661
@Gamble661 4 жыл бұрын
I've always thought that the extra wearing the sunglasses during a battle scene was kind of historically inaccurate too. Not to mention the automobile driving across the shot in the background...
@jpmnky
@jpmnky Жыл бұрын
When The History Channel was awesome there was a show called Reel to Real. And this was one f the first episodes. They pick literally everything in this film apart and sure enough, like always, the true story was so much more fascinating than the events of the film.
@eawilson08
@eawilson08 2 жыл бұрын
at 15.29, you have to laugh at how he says 'face paint'
@Jessie_Helms
@Jessie_Helms 3 жыл бұрын
“People who understand love history. Those who don’t love history don’t understand it.” History isn’t facts and numbers and ridged timelines, it’s _people_, and people are inherently interesting, compelling, and deserve to be represented accurately.
@Historylover-ho6lg
@Historylover-ho6lg 2 жыл бұрын
How right you are.
@radikalmoderate5705
@radikalmoderate5705 2 жыл бұрын
factually?
@Jessie_Helms
@Jessie_Helms 2 жыл бұрын
@@radikalmoderate5705 what?
@8bitakvids
@8bitakvids Жыл бұрын
Wait..... are you saying that people can be represented a bit more dramatically to tell a story and get an emotional response and exact dates etc. aren't important or are you saying they are?? I'm confused..
@Jessie_Helms
@Jessie_Helms Жыл бұрын
@@8bitakvids people are inherently interesting. Showing their stories as accurately as possible should be the _ideal_ with the reality allowing some small room for fudging.
@tomfrazier1103
@tomfrazier1103 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Scotland had any scenery left after Mel was done chewing.
@calebdehart6651
@calebdehart6651 3 жыл бұрын
Mel Gibson is a beast.
@kyleshiflet9952
@kyleshiflet9952 3 жыл бұрын
@smilebackifyourugly and Ireland hadn't suffered enough
@paradisecityX0
@paradisecityX0 3 жыл бұрын
@smilebackifyourugly Not even the scenery was accurate
@rickeypayne1
@rickeypayne1 3 ай бұрын
Told a guy dressed as Wallace in Edenborough castle that it was all bollocks and that they never wore dresses or kilts and the guy just laughed and told me to look up Scottish history and that i was an idiot.
@JohnSmith-rw2yn
@JohnSmith-rw2yn 8 ай бұрын
I am sure that at the battle Stamford Bridge, 1066 a viking held up a whole army by dominating a bridge but don't quote me. Love a good bridge.
@rouka120
@rouka120 5 жыл бұрын
Mel Gibson must really hate the English.
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 4 жыл бұрын
S. Albertsen he’s Irish that’s how we roll.
@kyrozudesoya1829
@kyrozudesoya1829 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Gibson was Aussie?
@kyrozudesoya1829
@kyrozudesoya1829 4 жыл бұрын
Ah.....
@God_gundam36
@God_gundam36 4 жыл бұрын
@uncletigger I mean they've done some shit in the past but damm so has every county. People gotta give some credit when it's due
@dylanmurtagh666
@dylanmurtagh666 4 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't?
@TheAustinWoolShow
@TheAustinWoolShow 3 жыл бұрын
I never really thought that historical accuracy mattered in a Mel Gibson action movie from 1995.
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 3 жыл бұрын
That's fair enough...don't call it after a real life historical person then
@jimm7346
@jimm7346 3 жыл бұрын
@@GIBBO4182 You know what's really funny? The nickname "Braveheart" refers to King Robert the Bruce, not William Wallace, so the name of the movie is inaccurate too.
@jimm7346
@jimm7346 3 жыл бұрын
@austin wool i guess it doesn't if you're just looking at it as an action movie, but i don't think your complaining matters on a channel that makes videos about history and historical accuracy in movies.
@TheAustinWoolShow
@TheAustinWoolShow 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimm7346 not really complaining, just stating my opinion.
@stephenwalsh2476
@stephenwalsh2476 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAustinWoolShow fair
@jordaneggerman4734
@jordaneggerman4734 8 ай бұрын
........I'm just gonna say it.... The new most-terrifying phrase in the English language is _certainly_ "teleporting pedophile". Let's never speak of that horrific thought again.
@JdeeGeekyGao
@JdeeGeekyGao 3 ай бұрын
I watched this movie with a mate in HS and our history teacher said "It's entertaining, but not accurate." My mum is Maori Scot, and my gram was born in NZ to Scottish parents from clan Ross. I am not sure if the clan adopted the name after the clan Ross that hid Robert the Bruce died/killed off (not sure what happened to them). But my gram has the Ross tartan on display on her bedroom wall. My dad who is Irish Chinese would tell me the spider story of Robert the Bruce as a kid, so I knew more about him than William Wallace going into this movie.
@MatthewCampbell765
@MatthewCampbell765 8 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. The Patriot and Braveheart are basically the same movie. I watched them back to back and it's really quite hilarious.
@ingurlund9657
@ingurlund9657 8 жыл бұрын
Yep. I noticed too and wondered if Mel would make another one so he could have a trilogy of I hate the English. I hoped he'd paint himself black next and play a zulu king at Isandwana.
@Randomguy-mb1wd
@Randomguy-mb1wd 8 жыл бұрын
I made fun of the exact same thing in one movie Mel Gibson kills British horses in another he kills British horses.
@whiteandblackzebra7005
@whiteandblackzebra7005 8 жыл бұрын
Watch Mel Gibson in Mad Max, there is yur trilogy :)
@JackClockerinos
@JackClockerinos 8 жыл бұрын
I always had a plot for a movie where Mel Gibson becomes a Nazi to defeat Winston Churchill, after he turned Mel's family into cigars with his dick.
@carljuvy
@carljuvy 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's quite ridiculous. If someone made war movies making America look evil than the whole American film community will be triggered. No wonder why The Patriot and Braveheart have bad ratings in Rotten Tomatoes!
@kraevorn7483
@kraevorn7483 4 жыл бұрын
Despite the inaccuracies you have to admit it’s a good movie. I mean entertainment value wise it’s great.
@madmanvarietyshow9605
@madmanvarietyshow9605 4 жыл бұрын
I'd agree with that. It's definitely a fun watch with some great scenes in it. It used to be one of my favorite movies and while the inaccuracies kinda piss me off I can still enjoy watching it as long as I treat it more like historical fiction.
@cjk2761
@cjk2761 4 жыл бұрын
As a Scotsman, the inaccuracies piss me off, but Braveheart was really fun to watch. No doubt did they know the history but made some changes to make it into a better movie. If historical films all went exactly by what happened, they wouldnt be as good.
@fleshautomatonanimatedbyne6327
@fleshautomatonanimatedbyne6327 4 жыл бұрын
@@cjk2761 I don't see how the changes they made helped this movie
@buffalowick8003
@buffalowick8003 4 жыл бұрын
@@fleshautomatonanimatedbyne6327 they gave it the required love story to pull on everyone's heart strings. You are way more involved knowing the guy's new wife had her throat slit versus the theory he possibly had his land taken. It's something most can relate to as far as having been in love before. Better? I don't know, but for some I'm very sure they would like the love story version. That's just one example I can think of
@cjk2761
@cjk2761 4 жыл бұрын
@@fleshautomatonanimatedbyne6327 To be honest, on second thoughts, the changes probably didnt help the movie. Regardless, they manged to pull it off and its a good movie.
@razorfett147
@razorfett147 2 жыл бұрын
Its a historical fairytale. As long as you acknowledge that...its a fine film
@KamikazeCommie501
@KamikazeCommie501 Жыл бұрын
Also the protagonist in the movie isn't William Wallace, it's Mel Gibson transported back in time into William Wallace's body.
@cambs0181
@cambs0181 Жыл бұрын
That would of been an interesting Quantum Leap Episode.
@AudibleFist
@AudibleFist Жыл бұрын
Props for using an SG-1 reference!😂
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