History Buffs: The Ghost and the Darkness

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8 жыл бұрын

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@jamesrussell7760
@jamesrussell7760 3 жыл бұрын
That scene where he is staring at the lion and his rifle goes, "click", scared the crap out of me. The critics were a bunch of stuffed shirts.
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes 3 жыл бұрын
That was the moment i actually begun to believe that they were indeed ghosts
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes 3 жыл бұрын
@@WrathofFenrir99 Exactly
@move_i_got_this5659
@move_i_got_this5659 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching it when it was released on VHS and I vaguely remember it being just OK. I haven't seen it in 25 years or more but from these few scenes it seems that the film makers went with a fantasy style instead of a horror style.
@angeluvsvid
@angeluvsvid 3 жыл бұрын
@@WrathofFenrir99 exactly like internet trolls
@facubeitches1144
@facubeitches1144 3 жыл бұрын
The loudest sound in the world is a click when you're expecting a bang.
@WhoTookMyMirr
@WhoTookMyMirr 3 жыл бұрын
Bob Gymlan does an incredible job recounting the events as told in Patterson's book. The quote that gets me the most from Patterson's account: "The Indians called them ghosts. The Muhammadans called them devils. The Africans simply called them Lions."
@CamMackay96
@CamMackay96 2 жыл бұрын
His video is a fantastic telling of the story! Highly recommend to anyone
@WontSeeReplies
@WontSeeReplies 2 жыл бұрын
Heroic lions stopping the British empire.
@scottcarter2362
@scottcarter2362 2 жыл бұрын
The story, as narrated by him,is far more chilling than the movie. A case of sometimes fact is more horrorfying than fiction .
@pgee4342
@pgee4342 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely recommend it as well. The video title is “The Full Story of the Man-Eating Lions of Tsavo”.
@notatortoise1631
@notatortoise1631 2 жыл бұрын
Fr, that’s where I first learned about the Tsavo Lions. Bob did such a great job at it, and also with his Mysore Bear story as well. I wish he could do more videos like that.
@JimmySteller
@JimmySteller Жыл бұрын
"Val came to the set under the worst conditions imaginable. He was completely exhausted from doing The Island of Dr. Moreau; he was dealing with the unfavorable publicity from that set; he was going through a divorce; he barely had time to get his teeth into this role before we started; and he is in nearly every scene in this movie. But I worked him six or seven days a week for four months under really adverse conditions, and he really came through. He had a passion for this film." -Stephen Hopkins (director of "The Ghost and the Darkness")
@kitchengun1175
@kitchengun1175 Жыл бұрын
the standoff against the second lion was wild, in all versions of the story this cat took three gunshots and two broken legs, was still alive and raring to go 10 days later, got shot again then got back up TWICE and nearly got Patterson's ankle as he climbed up a tree to grab the rifle that fired the final shot legendary cat
@StoryGirl17
@StoryGirl17 8 ай бұрын
It's amazing how much that lion stood before finaly dyng, especialy when you consider how quickly the first lion died after being shot. It's almost like his rage kept him from feeling pain, and had only the desire to kill.
@mikedamat
@mikedamat 8 жыл бұрын
"Lost his hearing due to the lion's powerful roar" Or the numerous rifle shots next to his ear in an enclosed boxcar.
@MrNozza123
@MrNozza123 8 жыл бұрын
+The Name I Want Shut up! It was his roar! -Patterson, knowing how best to sell a book.
@fightapathyordont8931
@fightapathyordont8931 8 жыл бұрын
+The Name I Want Well, a lion's roar is 114 decibels. A lawn mower is around 90. So i wouldn't be surprised if he lost his hearing due to the combination of the gun fire and the roar. Especially since they're in an enclosed area, which intensifies the loudness of a sound.
@mikedamat
@mikedamat 8 жыл бұрын
+Fight Apathy or Don't Lion roars are loud, but a large caliber rifle is still significantly louder. A .30-06 in a 24" barrel is 158.5 dB (www.freehearingtest.com/hia_gunfirenoise.shtml) A 40 decibal gain would seem to be about 16 times as loud, 115 decibels can cause hearing damage if exposed for more than 30 seconds, but >160 dB can cause immediate hearing damage (www.pjspeech-hearing.com/images/_products/Hearing_Loss_Danger_Chart_in_Decibels_pj_speech.jpg). It was probably mostly the rifles, but claiming the lion's roar made him deaf would be more dramatic for the sake of a book.
@fightapathyordont8931
@fightapathyordont8931 8 жыл бұрын
The Name I Want Yeah. Gun shots+lion roar+being inside a somewhat enclosed area = high chance of becoming deaf.
@mickkemp4780
@mickkemp4780 8 жыл бұрын
they were probably using black powder weapons in very heavy calibers .45 boxer or Remington or .577 Schneider incredibly loud weapons. the martini was an exceptional brute to fire.VERY VERY LOUD
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain 3 жыл бұрын
"The next obvious question is why did the filmmakers feel the need to ditch it?" Presumably because nobody was brave enough to try shaving the lion
@hizurumegumi5727
@hizurumegumi5727 3 жыл бұрын
Fair point.
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain 3 жыл бұрын
@@hizurumegumi5727 I mean, would you? I certainly wouldn't
@hizurumegumi5727
@hizurumegumi5727 3 жыл бұрын
yeah most wouldn’t, Unless there high, Drunk, or just plain stupid or a dude bro.
@psilosighin
@psilosighin 3 жыл бұрын
@@hizurumegumi5727 I’m high and I wouldn’t, an animal trainer might tho.
@hizurumegumi5727
@hizurumegumi5727 3 жыл бұрын
yeah most would not
@TheShadowwarrior80
@TheShadowwarrior80 2 жыл бұрын
I just love the scene at 11:55 after Paterson's gun misfires, Lion is just looking at him like "Bruh"
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes 2 жыл бұрын
That was the moment I actually believed they are supernatural beings
@GeorgeSemel
@GeorgeSemel Жыл бұрын
My friend is not just a gun but a Farquharson Falling Block Single Shot Rifle. It would be the finest hunting rifle of the day and even in our time. It was so loved that Ruger in 1969 introduced the Ruger # 1 single-shot rifle. I got two, and Dakota made the Number 10 I had one of those. Today John Rigby and Sons are producing a limited edition one in 416 Rigby # 2 cartridge, yours for $ 51, 000 not even the price of a Toyota Tundra. No not just a gun, a legendary hunting rifle.
@RogueT-Rex8468
@RogueT-Rex8468 2 жыл бұрын
That scene where the man who killed a lion with his bare hands looked out at the grass is INTENSELY chilling. The close ups. The open grass. The shadow of the ghost and the music score put over it. It alone is astounding.
@BenDover-vs7ih
@BenDover-vs7ih 3 жыл бұрын
This was a freakin great movie and going to watch it again. It's a crime Val Kilmer has not won an acadamy before especially for his work in Tombstone. One of the most underappreciated actors of our time.
@EmeraldLavigne
@EmeraldLavigne 2 жыл бұрын
He is the man who was the bat!
@zekethefishgeek8690
@zekethefishgeek8690 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmeraldLavigne bait
@kennethkelly708
@kennethkelly708 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah well, thunder heart was great!
@lizc6393
@lizc6393 2 жыл бұрын
He was kinda ruined for me because I learned about his character and reputation before I had a chance to watch his movies.
@WontSeeReplies
@WontSeeReplies 2 жыл бұрын
Understanding geopolitical history makes the brothers similar to JFK & RFK. Hero’s fighting against the notoriously corrupt British empire.
@sesfilmsllc
@sesfilmsllc 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody bats an eye when a house cat hunts and kills a mouse, but it’s a whole different ordeal when you are the mouse.
@keysglim
@keysglim 3 жыл бұрын
There's a large house cat:Panik It's hunting and killing a mouse:Kalm You are the mouse:Panik
@nomadjensen8276
@nomadjensen8276 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah even house cats have that strange enjoyment of playing with their food. I found a half eaten mouse outside my house where there are many stray cats just living around the woods of my home just the other day and it reminded me of my sisters cat when we were young. she was shocked when she found a headless mouse in the living room.
@TheAtlantaRailfan
@TheAtlantaRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
True
@noahbrooks8939
@noahbrooks8939 2 жыл бұрын
361 likes lmao
@ashleighelizabeth5916
@ashleighelizabeth5916 2 жыл бұрын
Oh but let a Coyote eat somebody's cat and people are ready to skin the poor thing alive and torture it to death for doing what it needs to do to keep on living.
@stephenmartin8331
@stephenmartin8331 Жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons I love this story and the movie is that when you learn the true history,it gets even crazier.
@judemusyoki7052
@judemusyoki7052 Жыл бұрын
As a Kenyan this movie was equally and exciting & terrifying to watch. Quite accurate for the most part. Nice review 👍
@stoicgaardian
@stoicgaardian 4 жыл бұрын
I watched this as a kid and was like man I’m glad this isn’t real and my dad was like, yes it is, and I was like well time to not sleep for a couple weeks
@bobsyouruncle66
@bobsyouruncle66 4 жыл бұрын
The story is true, I have a copy of Patterson's journal, spend years reading all I could on the story and went to the actual Tsavo bridge built. Lions in the wilds of Africa are truely terrifying...I know from camping in Africa and having close encounters with lions...and they still kill many people annually.
@tiernanwearen9499
@tiernanwearen9499 4 жыл бұрын
Or "dad you mind if i sleep with Mr Remington? Who? My rifle."
@zahariburgess3660
@zahariburgess3660 4 жыл бұрын
i live in kenya one time we were going to the costal regon and the buss broke down there
@henrypaleveda7760
@henrypaleveda7760 4 жыл бұрын
that happened to me too.
@stoicgaardian
@stoicgaardian 4 жыл бұрын
Offworlder1 100% agree
@handgun559
@handgun559 3 жыл бұрын
*Sees corpse pile* "They're doing it for the pleasure..." Sooooo, they're just regular house cats, but big?
@MASTEROFEVIL
@MASTEROFEVIL 3 жыл бұрын
Very big
@rockytopbritt
@rockytopbritt 3 жыл бұрын
Being a cat owner, this movie strikes a cord with me. The thought of full size lions acting like my cat is horrifying.
@scoobydoo3928
@scoobydoo3928 3 жыл бұрын
@@rockytopbritt Just imagining your housecat being about 9 feet long and 400 lbs., is enough to give anyone who owns a cat, nightmares. They are near perfect predators.
@laurapomeroy7341
@laurapomeroy7341 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Just like your sweet well fed house cat. Remember that the next time you're sweet little seriel killer wants to go out side. We have ours on a leash and harness and watch her, she has killed five fluffy, feathery inocent creatures.
@hyrulemazta2296
@hyrulemazta2296 3 жыл бұрын
If they did it for pleasure, then I wonder if they left their dead uneaten humans on the front doormat as a present, like my cats do when they kill a mouse
@Red80008
@Red80008 Жыл бұрын
This movie is a prime example of a heavily underrated masterpiece.
@ZeeshaanBukhari22
@ZeeshaanBukhari22 2 ай бұрын
True
@sofydebehault4345
@sofydebehault4345 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I spent the 17 first years of my life in Africa and my dad spent almost is whole life there and was raised not very far from the Tsavo. This is THE story every old timer in Africa knows about. So when I saw the movie I was just soooo amazed! To this day, it remains one of my very favorite one and indeed very close to what was told at the time. It is largelly believed there there that the weird behaviour of these 2 lions (killing for pleasure, no fear of men or fire, 2 males hunting together while a male is usually quite territorial and lives with females) is because they were brothers probably grown up by humans... Before deciding that humans were better eaten then alive. Thank you for making a video on this movie that means so much to me and a lot of people who have lived in Africa. And a movie with such an amazing cinematography!
@shadiversity
@shadiversity 8 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this movie as a kid and it scarring the living crap out of me, and loving it by the end. Oh the joy I felt at seeing those evil lions dead. It is an incredible movie and now I'm more pleased to find out that the more unbelievable parts of it, like the lion in the cage, is actually true.
@dongabriellexandru8148
@dongabriellexandru8148 6 жыл бұрын
SHADDDDDDDD WAT ARE YOU DOING HERE ???? HMMMMMMM ????
@mikereger1186
@mikereger1186 6 жыл бұрын
In some ways it’s a lot like Jaws. Top predator terrorising people. Except this story is real.
@SentinelGhost
@SentinelGhost 6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps if Patterson had the Pommel of mass destruction he cold have killed the lions much faster
@obligatecarnivore6774
@obligatecarnivore6774 6 жыл бұрын
Shadiversity I'm surprised that you aren't commenting about the physical differences between the two lions and standard lions
@maximumfun1078
@maximumfun1078 5 жыл бұрын
What medieval weapons would lions REALLY use?
@owenmccarthy2521
@owenmccarthy2521 4 жыл бұрын
18:02 “I’ve seen worse, and I am pretty sure you all have too”. You are 110% correct with that statement. I saw 2001’s Pearl Harbor
@Godzillafan1980
@Godzillafan1980 Жыл бұрын
One of the BETTER Michael Bay films but that's not saying much
@Yeahno-ey3rb
@Yeahno-ey3rb 8 ай бұрын
An underrated movie that deserved more attention. Still get goosebumps when I hear the soundtrack
@barbarahartmann2292
@barbarahartmann2292 3 жыл бұрын
My Great Uncle Captain Alfred Haslam was one of the characters left out or combined. He was a veterinarian who had come to help solve the lion problem but an illness had come over the local goats at the same time, he was killed by the local African tribe during a necropsy of a goat because they thought he was performing magic. Anyway, he's in the book. He is buried there too. I found this movie great, even though my Uncle was left out. Your review was wonderful.
@ladymopar2024
@ladymopar2024 5 жыл бұрын
I love this movie, thought it was a little underrated
@stephenmcdonagh2795
@stephenmcdonagh2795 5 жыл бұрын
Got the lions wrong though- the main killers were two very large "Mainless" male lions.
@stephenmcdonagh2795
@stephenmcdonagh2795 5 жыл бұрын
Just noticed it WAS mentioned.
@mitchellneu
@mitchellneu 5 жыл бұрын
Extremely underrated. Why don't we get more movies like these instead of the cheap jumpscare-a-thons and found footage bullshit we get today? Man and nature are truly the scariest monsters of all.
@africansafariswithachocola6975
@africansafariswithachocola6975 5 жыл бұрын
Mitch Neu I mean you do have a decent point. There’s plenty of man eaters throughout history they could pick from. There’s plenty of man eating bears, leopards, and tigers to make a possible movie out of based off true events They did a loose one based off Gustave the Nile crocodile. He was used as a secondary villain though. Jaws is loosely based off the New Jersey shark attacks of 1916
@mitchellneu
@mitchellneu 5 жыл бұрын
@@africansafariswithachocola6975 Jaws is fantastic. What's the croc flick? I know there'll be one soon called Crawl but what were you thinking of.
@crusaderofthelowlands3750
@crusaderofthelowlands3750 5 жыл бұрын
The Ghost and the Darkness: "*ROAR*" Patterson: "I'm your huckleberry."
@tonybates4308
@tonybates4308 5 жыл бұрын
"You're a daisy if you do."
@Yak1312
@Yak1312 4 жыл бұрын
Rofl!
@nickyboy22071989
@nickyboy22071989 4 жыл бұрын
"Play for blood? That's just my game."
@orlandotragic7577
@orlandotragic7577 4 жыл бұрын
Why Johnny Ringo...you look like somebody just walked over your grave
@nathanmills335
@nathanmills335 4 жыл бұрын
"Well...I s'pose I'm deranged...but I'll just have to call."
@kestrel09
@kestrel09 Жыл бұрын
In his book, Death in the Long Grass. Peter Hathaway Capstick recalls his experiences as a big game hunter guide in Africa.There were accounts of lions entering sleeping huts selecting prey who were not closest to the door and removed the body without alerting anyone else. An interesting book with many interesting stories. It’s been posited that man eating lions become that way when they are older and not as adept at catching wild prey.
@gullyfoyle3915
@gullyfoyle3915 Жыл бұрын
That may have been a partial factor, and one of the lions had a serious abscess in the jaw, which would have made hunting difficult. There was also reduced game in the are due to a disease outbreak. Additionally, however, the very unusual behavior of the lions in the Tsavo region were likely also a late symptom of the East African (Arab/Muslim) Slave Trade. For hundreds of years columns of captured slaves were marched right through this area by Islamic slavers, on the way to slave dhows in Zanzibar, to be taken to Oman, India, and other ports in the Islamic world. When some of these slaves died, which they did in enormous numbers, the slavers simply left their bodies by the side of the trail. The lions in that region likely acclimated to the taste of human flesh over time (when otherwise and elsewhere lions normally do not eat humans) simply through the sheer abundance of scavengeable corpses.
@vinnieg6161
@vinnieg6161 Жыл бұрын
I feel like if that happens 1 time you'd build like a wooden wall or something
@balanc-joy9187
@balanc-joy9187 10 ай бұрын
That is so disturbing the think about to me, my heart did a jump or two reading that. Just trying to imagine, either being dragged away so quickly you don't have time to alert anyone, or being someone sleeping in that hut and not hearing as this huge carnivore creeps along near you, and drags away someone _else_ and you don't even wake up. The person is just...gone, or at least pulled away before anything can be known right away. (Shivers). No wonder the men being hunted by the Tsavo lions called them Ghosts...
@retriever19golden55
@retriever19golden55 9 ай бұрын
I've read several of Capstick's books, they're terrific.
@kestrel09
@kestrel09 9 ай бұрын
@@retriever19golden55 I’ve only read Death in the Long Grass a great read.
@WalkbetwixtWorlds
@WalkbetwixtWorlds 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this in the theater, and it was instantly one of my faves, the score, the locale, the story.. and it had intrigued me then to research the true story. I am so thrilled to have found this channel just recently, and especially someone like minded on this particular film. Keep up the great work!
@nogland8916
@nogland8916 8 жыл бұрын
My cat is giving me some weird looks right now...
@alikos88
@alikos88 8 жыл бұрын
+Bragon Dorn this cat...is it like other cats...?
@algini12
@algini12 8 жыл бұрын
+Bragon Dorn It always did give you those looks. And now its too late......
@fds7476
@fds7476 8 жыл бұрын
*Run.*
@mar10ssj1
@mar10ssj1 8 жыл бұрын
+Bragon Dorn Your cat is just contemplating your demise.
@dff1286
@dff1286 8 жыл бұрын
+CIIR LOL.
@allendalephillips
@allendalephillips 4 жыл бұрын
This has happened before. A tiger had over 300+ confirmed kills, a leopard the same. There are other stories as well
@albatross4920
@albatross4920 4 жыл бұрын
There was a similar story of a bear in Japan that was a notorious man eater too
@TheRealCaptainFreedom
@TheRealCaptainFreedom 4 жыл бұрын
How do lions confirm kills?
@bobbymobay
@bobbymobay 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean Shere Khan? I mean he couldn't even catch Mowgli!
@bs__2028
@bs__2028 3 жыл бұрын
There's the killer crocodile Gustav The thing killed 300 men
@samanthab1923
@samanthab1923 3 жыл бұрын
India always has a village living in terror
@andyb7808
@andyb7808 Жыл бұрын
Deeply underrated film, I watched it as a kid after a historian at the Field Museum told me the whole story while I was standing in front of the lions. I think your essay captured many of the interesting points about both film and the true story upon which it was based. Bravo!🎉
@mtngrammy6953
@mtngrammy6953 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for filling in some good historical details! I saw this movie when it first came out. Having been a huge fan of animal behavior since I was a very young child (I'm now nearing 80), I have watched everything I can having to do with animal behavior. Working specifically with dogs for nearly 60 years now, I find that people seriously underestimate or simply deny the mental and emotional power of animals. Truly, these lions were unlike any others known before or since, but your explanation of the slaves being thrown out by the wayside explains a lot! Don't ever underestimate the intelligence of ANY animal! The more I work with animals, the more I realize that I know very little about the extent of their intelligence, emotions and uncanny abilities. The animal kingdom is truly amazing!
@evamattar793
@evamattar793 4 жыл бұрын
The Ghost and the Darkness was an excellent film!
@tommyodonovan3883
@tommyodonovan3883 3 жыл бұрын
If you ignore Val's performance....Yes, it would have been a great movie.
@narendramartosudarmo
@narendramartosudarmo 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It’s an underrated gem.
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes 3 жыл бұрын
Lion themed nightmares
@zorronegro229
@zorronegro229 3 жыл бұрын
The actual account in his personal diary was WAY more terrifying
@napoleonbonaparte5147
@napoleonbonaparte5147 3 жыл бұрын
It scared me from cats forever
@redram5150
@redram5150 5 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t they use a mane-less lion? You ever try to shave a Lion?
@Lioness006
@Lioness006 4 жыл бұрын
@RuleofVicus And audiences who didn't know better.
@tvanza7791
@tvanza7791 4 жыл бұрын
2 reasons in my opinion 1. Hollywood is all about the flashy over the top...maneless lions in their minds don't translate as flashy enough. 2. Hollywood has a fear of the common person. They think of their audiences as idiots. Thinking we would perceive the maneless males as lioness. All this to say Hollywood is out of touch 9 out of 10 times.
@jessefyfe9249
@jessefyfe9249 4 жыл бұрын
@@tvanza7791 their were no tamed male lions without manes at the time
@kingofthebeast4024
@kingofthebeast4024 4 жыл бұрын
JESSE FYFE or now
@GojiraSteve2019
@GojiraSteve2019 4 жыл бұрын
They could use a female lion... Maybe
@heathsemer3882
@heathsemer3882 Жыл бұрын
I love this movie and had no idea how accurate it was!
@jasonkelley8697
@jasonkelley8697 Жыл бұрын
it is very rare when a movie is so accurate even though it did take a few small liberties with some elements. it's also been said that people think Patterson may have exaggerated some elements in his book too though.
@satorukuroshiro
@satorukuroshiro 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the best genre description for a film like this is Historical Natural Horror. After all, historical basis, natural threat, horrific events (real or embellished).
@Reach1335
@Reach1335 4 жыл бұрын
"Face the animal on his own terms, you will find you are not so very strong." --The Beastmaster
@GUNNER67akaKelt
@GUNNER67akaKelt 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome movie!
@nathanb5579
@nathanb5579 3 жыл бұрын
That's why we are smarter than them and can use tools to our advantage, Tactics and improvisation.
@rcmunro22
@rcmunro22 3 жыл бұрын
Face anything on their terms & not yours & this is the case. There's a reason advantages are... advantageous.
@ariw9405
@ariw9405 4 жыл бұрын
I loved this movie you’re right the cinematography alone is gorgeous. It also has personal significance for me, it was the first date movie for my now husband of 20 years
@marcpeterson1092
@marcpeterson1092 4 жыл бұрын
Odd choice for a first date movie.
@a.l.michael6240
@a.l.michael6240 4 жыл бұрын
I think that’s a cool first movie!
@damienholland8103
@damienholland8103 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcpeterson1092 not really.
@86crud
@86crud 3 жыл бұрын
@@damienholland8103 Really. Scary movies make you want to hold someone's hand.
@gregp103
@gregp103 3 жыл бұрын
Give him a handy-j??
@margraveofgadsden8997
@margraveofgadsden8997 2 жыл бұрын
If they analyzed their hair to determine how many people they are in the last 3 months of their lives, and it came out as 11 and 24, then it isn’t implausible to suggest they could’ve eaten over 100 between them in one year.
@TheGosslings
@TheGosslings 2 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best movies of the '90s. Truly a spectacular passion project that shows in every frame and second of film. History Buffs is my favorite KZfaq channel. Every video is an excellent production that provides insights into our favorite movies. Even for a cinephile like me, I always learn something new. Thank you for doing this.
@ronaldmilleriii7100
@ronaldmilleriii7100 6 жыл бұрын
Historians are skeptical about the 135 killed but what they don't know is that there are tigers and leopards that have killed up to 4 times as much people. The Champawat Tiger was responsible for 436 documented deaths. The Panar Leopard in 1910 allegedly killed 400 people. The Ghost and the Darkness is definitely my favorite movie. I have read the book numerous times and seen the movie too much to count and it never gets old.
@notenoughodinson5912
@notenoughodinson5912 5 жыл бұрын
Whey, another Jim Corbett fan! My great grandad got to meet him when he was stationed in India
@silverletter4551
@silverletter4551 5 жыл бұрын
Those are some legendary hunters indeed!
@aprildannettegosa5381
@aprildannettegosa5381 5 жыл бұрын
Historians do not know everything
@darrellcovello7917
@darrellcovello7917 5 жыл бұрын
Actually my favorite Batman. I never hear anyone else agree with me.
@237whpH2Bhatch
@237whpH2Bhatch 5 жыл бұрын
Not really the point, these lions outsmarted men various times and were extremely lucky in getting out of traps.
@EvilEye1986
@EvilEye1986 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite movies of all time. I grew up in South Africa and my dad worked on the film. He was a stunt double for both Val Kilmer and Michael Douglas at various points in the movie. I know some of the bridges and tracks are fake, but you can't even tell in the movie!!!
@morganbanefort181
@morganbanefort181 Жыл бұрын
What was val Kilmer and Michael Douglas like
@paladinsix9285
@paladinsix9285 Жыл бұрын
This is one of My Favorite movies too!
@PetersonZF
@PetersonZF 3 жыл бұрын
I was always fascinated by the gruesome story of the man-eaters of Tsavo, ever since reading Willard Price's Lion Adventure as a kid. Awesome movie.
@thestoicwhinger
@thestoicwhinger Жыл бұрын
Yes! Now i remember where i first read about this story 😁 thanks
@mk13ultra4th
@mk13ultra4th Жыл бұрын
One of the movies that always creeped in the back of my head and I never really remembered if it was a nightmare, a cruel joke of my own mind or an actual product.
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen the lions at the Field Museum numerous times. It’s pretty crazy to see the remains of such feared beasts but their legend is kept alive by our museum
@bryanknecht6860
@bryanknecht6860 2 жыл бұрын
Cool, in which city/country is the museum?
@Regfife
@Regfife 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanknecht6860 Chicago, Illinois. USA.
@doozerace
@doozerace 2 жыл бұрын
@@Regfife across from Soldier Field
@yiannapavlochristou6855
@yiannapavlochristou6855 Жыл бұрын
@@Regfife I don’t mean to be rude but why are the remains in America and not in Africa?
@geert574
@geert574 Жыл бұрын
Because that museum paid Patterson 5000 bucks and the others didn't? Anyway the skins have shrunk the lions on display aren't the real size of Tsavo eaters
@thegreatmoustachio
@thegreatmoustachio 4 жыл бұрын
You just convinced me to rewatch "The Ghost and the Darkness." I love that movie.
@damienkakoschke3099
@damienkakoschke3099 Жыл бұрын
I remember tripping over this movie while channel flicking late one night & found it absolutely captivating. Then I had the chance to see it on TV a few years later & once again, brilliant movie, once you put it on, you cannot turn it off. I actually think this is one of Val Kilmer's better films (he has been pretty terrible in a lot of films, but this isn't one of them) & I liked Micheal Douglas in this film too. Also, the actor who played his African second in command was the coolest guy ever.
@alioreo2451
@alioreo2451 8 ай бұрын
I can watch this movie again and again and it still terrifies me. I am no Val Kilmer fan but he did an amazing job in this film. This is truly a movie that should be considered a classic. Well shot, no pun intended, mostly great acting, beautiful scenery and a true story. What more could you ask for.
@Pantheonslayer
@Pantheonslayer 5 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather worked this railway, i never knew him but he was truly a man. Bhagwan bless his soul
@EmilioReyes_97
@EmilioReyes_97 5 жыл бұрын
Thank whatever you believe in that your here today because he didnt end up as cat food..
@jcfra420
@jcfra420 5 жыл бұрын
@@EmilioReyes_97 You do realize, being the grandfather's first cousin, it makes no difference if Patterson was killed right?
@EmilioReyes_97
@EmilioReyes_97 5 жыл бұрын
@@jcfra420 I was referencing if his Grandfather was killed
@collinhennessy1521
@collinhennessy1521 4 жыл бұрын
Bhagwan was my grandfather.
@JackAShepherd
@JackAShepherd 4 жыл бұрын
That is really cool!
@johnsmith651
@johnsmith651 8 жыл бұрын
you know what this movie needs, a damn Blu ray release
@walmerkoyoc2136
@walmerkoyoc2136 5 жыл бұрын
You should try Amazon, might have it
@jeffreyhejny7315
@jeffreyhejny7315 5 жыл бұрын
Can we skip to straight to brain download?
@catalinsoare1261
@catalinsoare1261 Жыл бұрын
I remember when the movie was in the cinema. It had a major impact on me. I loved it. In my opinion, this is not about someone chasing some lions, it's a movie about friendship: the friendship between the 2 lions and the sadness I felt for the lion left behind. Truly a masterpiece!
@robertogonzales1956
@robertogonzales1956 Жыл бұрын
First saw this movie when it came out on video, thought it was awesome. At the end of the movie when they said the two lions were on display at the museum in Chicago, realizing this was a true story, made me rewind it and watch it again.
@getoffyourbassandletsfish7651
@getoffyourbassandletsfish7651 4 жыл бұрын
Our two cats are sitting on my bed one watching this with me, I swear she taking notes!
@derajnitram1882
@derajnitram1882 7 жыл бұрын
I never understood the negative reviews this film got either, I always thought it was the Jaws of the African Plains and I mean that in the best way. The Ghost and the Darkness captures the same tense moments, not knowing where the lions are, or when they'll strike next, and the music by Jerry Goldsmith creates a great sense of tension along with an epic score, much like Jaws had. I too love this film, I've seen it numerous times, and never have grown tired of it, sure it has historical inaccuracies, or be a more romanticized account much like Patterson's book, but it's still a good watch.
@rhemorigher
@rhemorigher 7 жыл бұрын
I've not seen it in years because ... well, because I didn't much like it when I first saw it, but I think from a recurring praise I've heard it might be how 'sucked in' you can get by the beauty and majesty of Africa, the mystery and power, which the movie is meant to really make seem appealing. I put it down to this 'cause when I watched it I was living in Africa, if I wanted that I went outside. Aside from the beauty and the sweeping plains, the intrepid journey through the dust, it was a fine movie, but nothing magical.
@muhammadshahriarzaman1824
@muhammadshahriarzaman1824 5 жыл бұрын
Pp
@FlyingFocs
@FlyingFocs 5 жыл бұрын
The best explanation I've heard was, "after the impressive CGI dinosaurs of Jurassic Park and alien invaders of Independence Day, normal lions just didn't seem impressive to audiences at the time." Of course, considering that no one makes films like these anymore, and I keep meeting people who say they love this film, it seems time has actually been pretty kind to this film. It's not gone under a massive critical revision like The Thing, Blade Runner, or Alien, but it is getting some vindication.
@silverletter4551
@silverletter4551 5 жыл бұрын
And the feeling that the victims had it coming was just a bonus.
@heathermcfarlane6164
@heathermcfarlane6164 5 жыл бұрын
Paterson's story of his successful hunt of the 2 lions at Tzavo is available in paperback. The attempt t lure the lions from the real hospital to the fake one failed because (in my opinion) the lions were MAN eaters and the blood etc they used was non human. Also, the lion slaughter was a case of unintended consequences: the slave trade in that area produced lions that were maneaters , putting a crimp in the slave trade.
@turtleinashirt
@turtleinashirt 3 жыл бұрын
Still my favorite movie. Love the whole thing. The critics can kiss my ass.
@rodrigorodgers3148
@rodrigorodgers3148 Жыл бұрын
I agree, one of the most underrated films ever made. Deserves a lot more love and appreciation.
@gethinthomas9535
@gethinthomas9535 6 жыл бұрын
Oh val Kilmer how awesome you were in the 90s
@jonathanw1019
@jonathanw1019 5 жыл бұрын
Before the dark times. Before the Empire of Krispy Kreme.
@travelreview5962
@travelreview5962 5 жыл бұрын
"I'm your huckleberry"
@valancebohm3204
@valancebohm3204 5 жыл бұрын
Dont forget Heat... and the Saint.
@jardelelias5625
@jardelelias5625 5 жыл бұрын
He was also great in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
@azazelone905
@azazelone905 4 жыл бұрын
quotetheraven90 umm? I’ll say maybe on that. The difference was screen time. He certainly held his own with them that’s for sure. “Not enough steaks in the freezer...”
@tonybanjo
@tonybanjo 5 жыл бұрын
I asked Jerry Goldsmith if there was a movie where he was particularly fond of his score and he said The Ghost and the Darkness which he thought was an underrated movie. I'd never heard of it but found it on DVD and it's been a favourite and I did enjoy his score.
@petergabriel8448
@petergabriel8448 5 жыл бұрын
The score is FANTASTIC. I picture the movie inside my head when I hear it.
@leitheparsons1186
@leitheparsons1186 4 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic movie. As far as the patriot your British bias is showing.
@LesA.R.6568
@LesA.R.6568 4 жыл бұрын
Jerry Goldsmith, heck of an composer.
@StsFiveOneLima
@StsFiveOneLima 3 жыл бұрын
You actually met the man? This is not my favorite Goldsmith soundtrack, but is in the top 3. And he is my favorite film composer, ever.
@realtsavo
@realtsavo 2 жыл бұрын
Jerry Goldsmith is a man I wish I could have worked with someday.
@MissFlow
@MissFlow Жыл бұрын
Coincidentally I watched the movie yesterday after not seeing it in like 10 years or longer. I was surprised at how tense and cruel the movie could be. Building up and building up to events and the pasing is outstanding! Of course with movies based on historical events I always question how much of it is true and how much the director made up or filled in, but in this case I think he did a splendid job being as truthfull as possible. They had a lot of data to work with. The scenes that got to me were the part where Patterson was facing one of the lions and his gun failed him. The realisation, the "HOH SHIT I'M FUCKED" look in his eyes the moment he ears a click but no shot. And the lion looking straight at him with his face covered in blood. Haunting. The other scene was the nightmare where his wife and newborn visit and get mauled by one of the lions. I was like "THIS BETTER BE A DREAM". Of course it turns out it is, and at the end of the movie when she truely visits him and he takes a quick peek at the tall grass where the lion in the dream used to be, juuuuuussst to make sure.... Suspensefull even after the threat has been defeated. THAT is great film making!
@david.leikam
@david.leikam Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this film in the theatres back in the day. I still enjoy it too!
@whitecloak11
@whitecloak11 3 жыл бұрын
How 4 guys with rifles missed that close in the trap is insane.
@2wingo
@2wingo 7 жыл бұрын
There were also safety concerns; Tsavo lions are much more capricious and violent than the maned ones, and cannot be reliably trained. They couldn't just shave the ones they had because, well, animal handlers tend to not allow it.
@mirandaloy5448
@mirandaloy5448 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it would be terrifying enough being that close to any lion--no matter how well trained. I couldn't imagine coming face to face with an actual Tsavo lion.
@Euroviking86
@Euroviking86 7 жыл бұрын
I'm happy they chose mane ones. Maneless lions inescapably look female to audiences, and they wanted to drive home that they were males. Besides, the image of maned lions is just far stronger, and hits closer to home. It was a good decision all around. Some of the best cinematography on lions ever is in this movie.
@mirandaloy5448
@mirandaloy5448 7 жыл бұрын
That's true. When Nick pulled up the Tsavo lions during the review, it took me a minute to realize that they weren't lionesses. Easier all around I guess to just use maned ones.
@teheyepatch
@teheyepatch 5 жыл бұрын
Not a problem for me. If the change was made for the safety of the cast, crew and animals involved, I will happily suspend my disbelief.
@trevor8726
@trevor8726 5 жыл бұрын
I doubt the maned lions would like having their manes, which depict the fact that they are male, is being shaved off
@stevenantonio8830
@stevenantonio8830 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite all time movies. It was cool to hear how historically accurate it is. Is the acting on the part of Kilmer and Douglas the greatest, no. But the cinematography more the makes up for it, as well as the supporting actors. I highly encourage anyone who loves Africa, animals, hunting, or adventure to watch it, fantastic film.
@USAR8888
@USAR8888 2 жыл бұрын
Such an underrated soundtrack! And an underrated movie. This movie and The Edge always seemed to be on TV when I was a kid in the late 90s, so I always think of them together. 2 of my all time favorite movies and movie soundtracks, both by the brilliant Jerry Goldsmith. The 90s had so many epic movies, and movie soundtracks.
@toshiarichardson9627
@toshiarichardson9627 Жыл бұрын
One of those things....I'd go as far as to say 99% of all hunters/fisherman lie, fib , tell tall tales, outrageous adventures, and excuses. Esp if they are white men. Of which I am. Nobody wants to hear the boring side. Patience....nothing....so if they come back with a story then at least you got something....humans....can't understand them...but no point...they kill themselves and pay to do it faster....
@Winter-The-Masquerade
@Winter-The-Masquerade 4 жыл бұрын
11:52 It honestly looks like the lion is going "Dude, Bad LUCK." Also, still more expressive then Disney's 2019 The Lion King.
@pizzatime5264
@pizzatime5264 4 жыл бұрын
Its because they used real lions broham
@playgt326
@playgt326 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like scar.
@unterdessen8822
@unterdessen8822 4 жыл бұрын
@@pizzatime5264 I'm not sure Spielberg's "Jaws" would have been much better with a real shark... I mean, the shark puppet IS very dated now, I have to admit that... you can see, that poor Bruce must have metal intestines. Then again, it's not that much in the movie and it doesn't bother me, that they didn't let Robert Shaw slip into a real great white's mouth ;-) I wholeheartedly agree, that Disney's awful live action reboots are trash. These stories simply don't translate well to a non-animated scenario. They're like "Cats" - a creepy, disgusting mindf**k.
@JR-ju3kj
@JR-ju3kj 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed.Patterson had nothing BUT bad luck throughout the movie with trying to kill those lions.
@johnreece5540
@johnreece5540 3 жыл бұрын
Not only one of the most underrated films of the 1990's. The Ghost and The Darkness is one of the most underrated films of all time
@dontworrydon
@dontworrydon 8 ай бұрын
I've watched this a handful of times and I love the movie and think the acting is very good.
@ellietobe
@ellietobe Жыл бұрын
The musical score of a movie has a great deal of influence on the viewers. The Lord of the Rings was partially successful because it had such great music that enhanced the audience’s enjoyment and understanding of the movie.
@youtoob4life
@youtoob4life 5 жыл бұрын
Personally, I love this movie. It scared me shit-less when I was a kid, and still gives me goosebumps. As for the low rating, I think it's probably because people thought it painted nature as the "bad guy".
@michellemelville8979
@michellemelville8979 4 жыл бұрын
I was in my early 20s and it left quite an impression
@Sweet.Mother.of.Cheesus
@Sweet.Mother.of.Cheesus 4 жыл бұрын
well.. i kinda does. i remember how when I was younger and saw the movie for the first time I routed for the lions
@mrflipperinvader7922
@mrflipperinvader7922 4 жыл бұрын
Helps the director did horror before transition to action thrillers
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes 2 жыл бұрын
Lion themed nightmare
@georgesartiano3559
@georgesartiano3559 8 жыл бұрын
I recall being at a lecture by one of the cinematographers/vfx guys for this, and he was talking about the lions, and said they were pre-trained lions hired for the movie- so they didn't have to re-train any non-mane lions. The lion that attacks the woman at the train is really attacking his trainer, and iirc when the one lion is stalking one of the guys and crawling low, the trainers were holding a piece of glass over him that forced him down like that.
@abrahamedelstein4806
@abrahamedelstein4806 6 жыл бұрын
It also streamlines the film in another way; You don't need exposition to explain why male lions, some of the most ferocious ones in history are missing the lion male's trademark trait.
@taffysaur
@taffysaur 5 жыл бұрын
Abraham Edelstein Exactly What I was thinking.
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 5 жыл бұрын
Fair enough! Means less CG work and trying to answer a question we're STILL not sure about.
@unfortunately_fortunate2000
@unfortunately_fortunate2000 5 жыл бұрын
dude, you do know you're NEVER to begin a new sentence with the word "and" nor "the" don't you?... besides that, cool comment my guy.
@Marioag20
@Marioag20 5 жыл бұрын
Alex Hendel really? Stephen King starts sentences in many of his books with “The”.. dumbass
@lukebaxter3252
@lukebaxter3252 7 ай бұрын
I vaguely remember seeing this film one time as a kid when I visited my nan. It genuinely terrified and disturbed me whenever the lions attacked. And the fact that this was something that really happened made me even more respectful but scared of Nature as a whole.
@Divineheart7
@Divineheart7 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this movie. It says at the beginning of the film that even the most fantastic parts of this film were true. Adds to the tension of the movie.
@robstanton9215
@robstanton9215 4 жыл бұрын
The Ghost and the Darkness is an all time favorite of mine! If you don’t come close to losing a grip on your kidneys through this at least four or five times you aren’t paying attention!! It puts an eerie feeling up my back every time I watch it. It reminds me that as a hunter of big game you can become the hunted and I have been hunted by mountain lions and bears. It is sure to keep you on your toes!!
@terrykeever9422
@terrykeever9422 Жыл бұрын
Many big game animals turn the tables on the hunters. I've read Cape Buffalo are very good at stalking. We think of the big cats but imagine a Cape Buffalo who wants you dead.
@kudukilla
@kudukilla Жыл бұрын
@@terrykeever9422ith buffalo it depends. If it’s a a herd or even a solitary dugga boy and they hear, smell, or see you they’ll usually take off and run away. If it’s solitary male who’s been injured by a lion, a poacher’s bullet, or a hunter’s bad shot watch out. I’ve actually hunted and taken one. Also saw genuine wild lions. Also faced and took down a charging hippo.
@degenerate3288
@degenerate3288 5 жыл бұрын
When you loose your hearing from a lion roaring 15ft away but not a gun shooting 1ft away
@degenerate3288
@degenerate3288 5 жыл бұрын
@plaguelock Shut up
@rachelarruda-decell7244
@rachelarruda-decell7244 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know. I know guns going off in an enclosed space can be loud, but have you ever been close to a roaring lion? One time when I was with my little niece at the zoo, we were walking by the big cat enclosures, but were not actually in front of them. Suddenly, we heard a low roar that seemed to vibrate in the ground and just got louder until it sounded like it was everywhere. My niece's eyes were wide as saucers. It was awesome but a little scary, even knowing they were in a secure enclosure. And that was just a hanging out on a boulder on Tuesday roar. But a I'm trapped and there's food I can't get to roar? I can see that taking out your hearing, easily.
@darrellcovello7917
@darrellcovello7917 5 жыл бұрын
Haha! If movies were realistic, you'd hear a lot more "WHAT??"
@Harijohn4874
@Harijohn4874 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was both.
@battleshipfleet
@battleshipfleet 5 жыл бұрын
not to mention it's backpowder in a closed space
@latunahtarea4453
@latunahtarea4453 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this as a kid and i didn't know that John Kani was in the movie and and I watched it two days back and i knew immediately that it was him. This movie is amazing. I would watch it over and over and over
@f1refall
@f1refall 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I thought Kilmer gave an amazing performance - well outside his usual range, conveying a stuffy englishman of the victorian age so well. Perhaps the problem is its not a particularly likeable archetype?
@johnnycage4019
@johnnycage4019 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@rachelbarrie5359
@rachelbarrie5359 2 жыл бұрын
I love the look on Patterson's face when they are burning the remains of Remington. I think Val did an excellent job (despite what happened to him in his personal life) at portraying Patterson as if to say 'Lets finish this, one of us will die'!!
@josephdillard9907
@josephdillard9907 Жыл бұрын
I don't see why an Englishman of the Victorian era should be an "unlikable" archetype. Other than a person just suffering from extreme anti white brainwashing, which is definitely common enough these days. Both this movie, and this KZfaq video about the movie, have their fair share of anti white rhetoric.
@caroletraynor8763
@caroletraynor8763 Жыл бұрын
Only upper class people were stuffy.
@f1refall
@f1refall Жыл бұрын
@@caroletraynor8763 and the middle class. Certainly not the working class, I agree
@ErinBujalski
@ErinBujalski 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite lines came from this movie that I've used in life. You don't take an untested rifle into battle!!!!!
@iqMain
@iqMain 3 жыл бұрын
The British with the L85/: I wonder who that could be
@glitterboy2098
@glitterboy2098 4 жыл бұрын
The Bone cave was an odd thing IMO in both versions.. as far as i am aware lions usually don't Cache their kills in general, much less in caves. I've sometimes wondered if the bones weren't that of the sick slaves that the slaver used to dump along the route.. Leopards also lived in that region, and leopards ARE known for caching their kills, and using caves. a few decades of dragging the bodies of dying or dead captives into the cave to feast would certainly have created a fairly large amount of bones. (some of out best finds of prehistoric fossils in africa, especially for hominids, come from the pits and outcrops that Leopards liked to bring their kills to to eat and cache.) Leopard behavior wasn't well understood at the time, in large part because they were solitary and harder to see in the wild, and it was believed at the time that lions were the top predators of the ecosystem. so it would make sense that Patterson attributed the cave to Lions rather than some other animal. why the cave doesn't have bones now is an oddity, but perhaps the bones finally just rotted away. or some of the local people found the place and gave them burials without telling anyone else.
@atf5275
@atf5275 3 жыл бұрын
well, porcupines collect bones to chew on for the calcium so it could just be a family of porcupines.
@mmmc5122
@mmmc5122 3 жыл бұрын
@@atf5275 a trite observation that in no way accounts for the amount of bones.
@atf5275
@atf5275 3 жыл бұрын
@@mmmc5122 that's why I said could. It could be unusual behaviour from these already unusual lions? Or a leopard that scavenged what was left of the corpses as it was said that they usually didnt eat much if their victims?
@kgraff4755
@kgraff4755 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a fair enough assumption, honestly. After what Patterson went through, of course he'd immediately attribute the cave only to the lions. What if the caching was from a leopard and the lions simply rented the cave for a bit? It's an interesting hypothesis for sure. 👍
@glitterboy2098
@glitterboy2098 3 жыл бұрын
@@kgraff4755 in the book when they found the cave there was absolutely no evidence to tie the lions to the cave beyond "they found the cave while looking for lions that had been seen in the area". he immediately assumed it was a lion lair, based on popular beleifs of the time about lion lifestyle, but scientific studies in the century or so since have shown that Lions usually don't hang around in caves.. they tend to live in the open, and on the move.
@thomasperry1272
@thomasperry1272 3 жыл бұрын
The Tsavo lions attacked the site for nine months so the 35 eaten found by analysis of the hair samples only covered a third of the period they were attacking. Times it by 3 and the figure comes much closer to Patterson's claim of 135
@johneqwest
@johneqwest 3 жыл бұрын
It is a very tense and frightening movie, and I was an adult when I first saw it! As for Kilmer's performance, I liked it. Perhaps a bit understated, but it was a good portrayal of a modern man of science and engineering coming face to face with a savagery that bordered on the supernatural. Best of all, though, was the character and courage he displayed, despite being afraid. Trying to understand why the lions behaved the way they did makes for an exciting story; trying to understand why Patterson behaved the way he did makes it a deep one.
@rahmadrenaldi2624
@rahmadrenaldi2624 4 жыл бұрын
When Patterson's rifle jammed I have the loudest facepalm I ever had.
@jerrygranade713
@jerrygranade713 2 жыл бұрын
The rifle didn't jam, the primer in the case failed to ignite the powder to send the bullet down the barrel.
@rahmadrenaldi2624
@rahmadrenaldi2624 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerrygranade713 oh, good to know. Thanks. does it called misfire then ? Cause I never handle a rifle in my life.
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerrygranade713 Whatever happens it was that moment when i begun to believe that they were actually ghosts and not lions
@dirtypms
@dirtypms 3 жыл бұрын
"Remmington's Death" was an awesome track! It's worth noting that the sound editing was given an award.
@midnightwaves01
@midnightwaves01 2 жыл бұрын
It's intriguing that it doesn't come to their mind that the locals might retrieved their families remains from the cave after the lions were dead. Most of us regardless want that basic human dignity given to our loved ones. I hope they did a mass burial and funeral procession. As an after thought it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to get the human remains out of the den to ensure its new occupants didn't develop a scent for humans as well. The original story was terrifying enough without imbelishing on the cave. I don't believe he lied. Also they didn't take into account the harsh elements destroying the bones. I love this movie too. Wish Michael Douglas would come back and do more movies. However I'm sure he's perfectly content with his treasure Catherine Zita Jones. 🙂
@diverbrent
@diverbrent Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent review. We just watched it and loved the show. Thanks for the great work!
@lolitabubbles26
@lolitabubbles26 4 жыл бұрын
Both this movie and The Cango scared the every living Jesus out of me when I was a kid. Like pure nightmare fuel. Dracula...whatever. Killer lions and gorillas? Yeah... I'll see myself out now.
@GUNNER67akaKelt
@GUNNER67akaKelt 3 жыл бұрын
Right, who needs fictitious monsters, when there are plenty of real ones. Far more scary. Way back when the Broderick Godzilla movie came out, they made commercials showing Godzilla stepping on a t-rex skeleton. A jib at Jurassic Park, implying that Godzilla was scarier than a t-rex because it was waaayy bigger. Sorry, the t-rex was still far more terrifying to me, because t-rex's actually existed. They were real. When I was a kid they had several movies about wild animals getting loose from zoos and going around killing people. Yeah, those were the movies that gave me nightmares.
@364dragonrider
@364dragonrider 3 жыл бұрын
Cango? What happens in that version, the apes start dancing? Jokes aside yeah dis movie gud.
@blitzenproductions2846
@blitzenproductions2846 3 жыл бұрын
@@364dragonrider what is it ? Never heard of it
@364dragonrider
@364dragonrider 3 жыл бұрын
@@blitzenproductions2846 he misspelled The Congo, a movie about killer gorillas.
@CoralCopperHead
@CoralCopperHead 2 жыл бұрын
@@GUNNER67akaKelt Eh. I was only terrified by stuff that I literally couldn't conceive of before I was exposed to them, and even then, the only things that really gave me nightmares were Hell and the undead. Turns out the media that exposed me to both when I was four years old was also the media that helped me overcome that fear. _"Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil... prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. _*_Eat leaden death, demon."_* ~Terry Pratchett
@nickmattedwards
@nickmattedwards 4 жыл бұрын
As much as this film doesn't measure up to other genuinely epic films set in Africa such as ZULU in terms of historical significance it still remains a thoroughly entertaining and memorable film that I've re-watched a fair few time over the years. The acidic vitriol poured upon it when some genuinely awful films, such as AVATAR, send people into a celluloid based delirium is beyond me.
@itsamysticlife3500
@itsamysticlife3500 8 ай бұрын
I used to work with a guy who was from Kenya. When his grandfather and two great uncles were young men, they walked to Kenya for a chance to work on this railroad. He said that this story was pretty close to what his grandfather told of the lion attacks on the camps. Two of the men that were killed by the lions were his two great uncles. His grandfather barely escaped during the attack that night and was forever terrified to be outside after dark. They're all gone now, but I hope my friends children and grandchildren pass on the story and realize how close the family came to being wiped out.
@dawnu132
@dawnu132 Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite movies. It's so beautifully made, and the fact that the true story is so well represented makes it even better. Thank you for this critique.
@kyotokitsune
@kyotokitsune 8 жыл бұрын
As they say, Truth is stranger than fiction.
@tammy6610
@tammy6610 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly as of 2019 slave trade is still going on in parts of Africa and middle eastern countries
@BobHogenProductions
@BobHogenProductions 5 жыл бұрын
@warystatue33 You do realize that the Arabs also conducted their own slave trade alongside the Europeans, right?
@BobHogenProductions
@BobHogenProductions 5 жыл бұрын
​@warystatue33 Although it didn't get worse, it simply didn't fully go away, my bad for not detecting the joke
@marcelcostache2504
@marcelcostache2504 5 жыл бұрын
@warystatue33 so the arab had slave trade almost 1000 years before europeans but its our fault?! way dont you talk about the fact that most african slaves under the arabs where castrated and 1 in every 3 died from bleeding. The European slave trade lasted 300 years the arab slave trade from 640 to 1980 ( mauritania was the last state to remove slavery in 1981!) so before insulting europeans GO LEARN HISTORY YOU MORON.
@natarito2056
@natarito2056 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a slave to my cell phone lol
@peterongan9655
@peterongan9655 4 жыл бұрын
@LadyGaGa is hot Islam before islam practice slave even dated far away at roman time or even before it. But the worst thing is, most of the muslims in the middle east is still conduct it. That's why some country like Indonesia, reduce their workers to go to Saudi because most of the time they become slaves.
@gerrithoevers
@gerrithoevers 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched the film before finishing your video. Hadn't seen it in years! I'd forgotten how good it was and I really don't think the acting was bad. Val Kilmer pulls off an Irish accent way better than I do and I could tell straight away that his accent was Irish within his first few lines. It was good for me!
@tonyhinojosa666
@tonyhinojosa666 11 ай бұрын
That intro goes so hard dude, I love rewatching your content 🙏🏼
@Casablumpkin01
@Casablumpkin01 5 жыл бұрын
The Rotten Tomatoes score blows my mind as well; Mahina scanning the savanna and spying a lion's silhoutte still gets me.
@michellemelville8979
@michellemelville8979 4 жыл бұрын
The part that gets me is the dream sequence. And then when she later arrives he remembers the dream and scans through the grass. And I remember critics saying how that sequence almost derails the movie....nah. it makes the movie.
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 5 жыл бұрын
I volunteer at Chicago's Field Museum, where the horrifying lions now reside. I enjoy this movie despite the frequent cliches-it's a great historical story and one of the better "killer animal" stories. And this film is beautiful,. and the lions one of our star attractions. Numbers are still debated: from 30 to 135 men were killed. Our mammal expert Bruce D. Patterson, (who is very friendly and open to questions) argues for the lower number, since their nitrogen isotopes show less than 24 people were actually eaten. Of course, killing for sport is not to be ruled out, and may account for the larger estimates. He also discovered that one of the lions had a tooth infection, an infection that would have made it difficult for the lion to kill large, difficult prey. To this very day, the lions in Tsavo are maneless.
@teheyepatch
@teheyepatch 5 жыл бұрын
I laughed at the narration at the end of the film. "When you lock eyes with them, you will be afraid." I couldn't help but thinking. "No I won't. I've seen them. They look adorable."
@steverogers9664
@steverogers9664 5 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity how could nitrogen isotopes in an animal's fur Point to how many people it's eating? Wouldn't it really depend on the size and weight of the person 3 skinny guys would equal one fat guy and so on. Don't understand the science behind this.
@NinjaTyler
@NinjaTyler 5 жыл бұрын
Tareltonlives yes but those isotopes only account for what a few short months and not however long these lions hunted humans in full though
@garyK.45ACP
@garyK.45ACP 5 жыл бұрын
There is also the "windfall" argument. There is the theory that predators will often kill far more animals/people/prey than they can eat in one sitting when presented with the opportunity. The predator intends to eat all the prey killed, but will return later to eat the rest. An example is a weasel or fox that gets into a hen house and kills ALL the chickens. The farmer discovers this the next morning and claims the weasels or fox "kill for sport" , which, of course, they do not. Given a camp full of defenseless workers, the lions may kill more than they can eat when they have the opportunity.
@nameuser6740
@nameuser6740 5 жыл бұрын
Tareltonlives Lieutenant Colonel John Henry Pattersons’ hometown is about 1 hour drive from me.
@lukasrohrs5476
@lukasrohrs5476 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this video for the second time and it's still so captivating. Thanks so much! Factually correct and super interesting. Easily one of my top ten films. Greetings from South Africa.
@nobody-wk6ej
@nobody-wk6ej 3 жыл бұрын
YOOOOOO... This could be Season 3 for "The Terror."
@kurtjk01
@kurtjk01 2 жыл бұрын
No need for magic polar bears, etc. Just the real story this time . . .
@BrandoCalrission
@BrandoCalrission 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that would be amazing. I’d never considered this
@thegeeksiderspodcast1520
@thegeeksiderspodcast1520 5 жыл бұрын
I think probably the reason they used lions with manes is because your average person would think they were female, and a major point in the movie is the lions are male. The audience would have been confused. Of course, they could have explained through dialogue that Tsavo lion don't have manes, but then you're getting into exposition and not moving the story forward.
@jackchellew8441
@jackchellew8441 5 жыл бұрын
The Geeksiders Podcast No manes because of the thorns!
@thegeeksiderspodcast1520
@thegeeksiderspodcast1520 5 жыл бұрын
@@jackchellew8441 Yeah. Real Tsavo lions have no manes, partly due to the thorns, and partly due to the heat. My comment was in regard to the lions they used in the film. I thought that would have been obvious.
@garcalej
@garcalej 4 жыл бұрын
Well there's that, and the possibility that Hollywood didn't have too many maneless male lions on hand to film these shots, at least none that were well-trained enough to avoid on set accidents. They had to go with what they had. And I doubt the trainers would have consented to shave them.
@odellyim4695
@odellyim4695 3 жыл бұрын
This film deserves a remake more focused on the horror, suspense element rather than just an action movie. Like imagine a ten minute tense scene only hearing the sounds of lions in total darkness.
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes 2 жыл бұрын
They'll make it woke and rubbing "colonialism bad" every 2 minutes
@tiernanwearen8096
@tiernanwearen8096 2 жыл бұрын
@@KanishQQuotes I hate to admit it but you're probably right
@HermanMunster420
@HermanMunster420 2 жыл бұрын
@@KanishQQuotes nah, they'll make it epic there will be an epic battle between the tribes and the lions, then there will be explosions and the avengers will show up and it will be a trilogy of movies that are three hours long each. Also, if a bunch of foreign soldiers showed up in your town to "colonize" your street your have a problem with it. Be real.
@pieterboelen2862
@pieterboelen2862 2 жыл бұрын
I like how it's still an adventure movie as well. Any remake would lose the Jerry Goldsmith. They'd just turn it into a generic modern darkness-fest.
@JSB-2Z-2K
@JSB-2Z-2K 2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about it does have suspense and horror. It was even labelled under horror in some places.
@harryo82
@harryo82 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite man vs nature stories of all time. I live in New York and I've never been to Chicago but I would love to go to the Field museum and see the Tsavo lions in person.
@crazyartnln2672
@crazyartnln2672 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the movie so much that i bought it for my own library years ago. i love film, and when it is based on fact it makes it even more fun for me. i thought this was a very well crafted piece of work, and agree with your glowing review of it. Cast, director, composer, camera and script were first rate. i still pull it off the shelf and watch it from time to time. I am new to your History Buffs and i am quite delighted to discover it. Your presentation and delivery are first rate, and i delight in learning about the factual details of the films. thank you for all your hard work. it is enjoyable and very worth while.
@pratyushdam1
@pratyushdam1 4 жыл бұрын
i was very young when i saw this with my parents but years later i rediscovered it, it is seriously one of the best movie i have seen. and whoever i have recommended it to has thanked me for this masterpiece. but if rotten tomatoes has it lower than patriot then i am never trusting rotten tomatoes ever again
@trevscribbles
@trevscribbles 4 жыл бұрын
I'd never even heard of this film, let alone the book, the legend, OR the actual factual occurrence! No idea how this slipped beneath the radar the last 20-odd years of my life. Looking forward to watching it.
@michellemelville8979
@michellemelville8979 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you report back on how you found it
@Dsturb85
@Dsturb85 3 жыл бұрын
So how did you like it???
@trevscribbles
@trevscribbles 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dsturb85 ...inconclusive (I still haven't seen it 😅🤦‍♂️) I actually forgot about it AGAIN! Right, okay, this is happening, and I shall report back with my findings post haste
@Dsturb85
@Dsturb85 3 жыл бұрын
@@trevscribbles lol its available on Amazon prime with subscription if you have it. I just watched it again it is Superman the fear and dread is palpable the music and the sound effects are just awesome and the acting is great totally totally one of my favorite movies ever you absolutely need to check it out I promise you will not be disappointed.
@trevscribbles
@trevscribbles 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemelville8979 Over one year later, I can finally say with all sincerity, that was a good film.
@crawl27
@crawl27 3 жыл бұрын
This a total flashback,I remember the first time I saw it,wow I'm glad I came across this channel!
@grrrr....maritz6491
@grrrr....maritz6491 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this movie, still have it on DVD and watch it every so often.
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