History of Talisman Part One

History of Talisman Part One | The Harris Era

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Күн бұрын

In 1983 Bob Harris and Games Workshop released one of the most successful fantasy boardgames of all time - Talisman! Over the past 40 years the game has never been out of print and has received 4 editions: the first two of which I explore in this first history of the game's development and release.
Part 2 covering the later Games Workshop, Black Industries, Fantasy Flight editions, and Pegasus Spiele editions is coming soon!
#talisman #gamesworkshop #boardgames #rpg #warhammer
Chapters:
00:00 Open
00:30 Introduction
02:16 Bob Harris and Necromancer
04:53 1st Edition
06:29 2nd Edition
07:29 Expansions
12:45 Miniatures!
13:38 White Dwarf
14:22 Gary Chalk
15:23 The Magic & the Sword & the Cave & and the Polish Publisher
16:36 Video Games
17:14 The End of the Harris Era
17:55 Summary
18:50 Toad! Toad! Toad!
Links & Sources:
Robert & Deborah Harris Website - www.harris-authors.com/
Talisman Island 30th Anniversary Feature - www.talismanisland.com/featur...
The Dice Men by Ian Livingstone
Lost Minis Wiki - www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki
Stuff of Legends - www.solegends.com
BoardGameGeek - www.boardgamegeek.com
My Calamity video! - • Did Andrew Lloyd-Webbe...
Music:
Dragon and Toast by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 licence. creativecommons.org/licenses/...
Source: incompetech.com/music/royalty-...
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Jordan Sorcery Theme by Joylin Music
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@ashka1024 Жыл бұрын

I remember playing (polish) 1st edition in late 80ties. Never saw anything like it: multiple characters, 4 huge puzzles that made full-colored map, a stack of Adventure cards just waiting to be reveled..... I still treasure my own 2nd edition copy of the game, but I do play it rarely and only with people who remember it from their own childhood.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Harris and GW did a sterling job with it, so much intriguing fantasy and story wrapped up in those cards and pieces. And Gary Chalk's art is just something else!

@Rabarbarzynca Жыл бұрын

Yeah, history how rpgs and assorted games reached Poland at the end of communist era and in early, wild days of transformation is pretty fun. Imagine that D&D did not really play huge role in that, WFRP was very dominant and of all possible things, Cyberpunk gained decent traction there. Ever wondered, why CDP Red created Cyberpunk 2077? Most of the old management knew it from early 90-times.😊

@TreeFrog851 3 ай бұрын

This was my gateway into gaming. I remember getting fastest death at a convention. Turn 1, turned to toad. Another player landed on me and encountered me instead of the Hag. I move, get a dragon, another player lands on me again, repeat of last turn. One more move..... another dragon. 3 turns, 4 lives down. Still remember that 30 years later. :)

@DanielEbeck Жыл бұрын

Love Talisman! My sister and I used to play 2nd Ed for days in the holidays. I even got her a 4th Ed for her 40th. I brought it to my Club and we had to play it over 2 sessions. There were 3 Toadings and much hilarity ensued.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

You literally can’t beat a good toading! One of the best mechanics in board games if you ask me!

@mGregPL Жыл бұрын

Greetings from Poland. I have both versions you mention. These games are now iconic in our country, because many children and teenagers of that time grew up on them, as a futrue board game players.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting! How similar does Sfera’s loose remake feel to the original?

@antonimaruniewicz1361 Жыл бұрын

@@jordansorcery Gameplay is pretty much identical though the tone of the game is much darker & there are some slavic folklore inspirations. Absolutely amazing video Jordan. You keep on delivering, thank you for your outstanding work

@mGregPL Жыл бұрын

@@jordansorcery I loved both versions and the Magiczny Miecz even a bit more because I had add-ons for it. I also liked the fact that in Magiczny Miecz you went from inside to outside, and then you stepped on a stone bridge that went over all the lands.

@GordonPryra 4 ай бұрын

I'm not sure how i missed this one, i spent months of my life playing this with my mates. Games taking all day only to end with the vortex thingy at the end. Possibly the best game I've ever played. Ill be spending this evening watching this.

@boboayame2065 Жыл бұрын

If Kevin MacLeod is really one guy he should go down as one of the greatest composers in history, I've never thought of a single situation he hasn't already written the perfect background music for

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Kevin MacLeod is a music making machine! Maybe literally!

@-Markus- 9 ай бұрын

If you want to play a bad game for several long hours and still enjoy every second of it, Talisman is unmatched! Truly an amazing game, I love it so much!

@michak.2760 Жыл бұрын

I had a polish version (rip off?) in the 90s. Couple of my friends had expansions and overall, we owned complete game. We used to gather, spread out everything on the corridor of our appartement building, and play for hours. Adding our own rules, switching players in and out, many times playing in a group of 8-10 players. Great memories. And You totally butchered the polish pronunciation but I can't blame You ;) I'm happy I've found Your channel. Since yesterday I'm watching one video after another. Great content, high quality, tons of info and history of our beloved games. Last evening, while watching Your Warhammer history, I even dug out my old dwarven army with the plan to repaint it, and prepare for (hopefully coming soon) new edition of WFB. Keep up the great work my friend!

@RSBurgener Жыл бұрын

I never played Talisman, but I can vividly remember the feel of fantasy products in the 70's into the 80's. It was influenced far more by fairy tales than what we have today and was, consequently, far more innocent. Fantasy today has way more horror elements in it. Strangely enough, that's how it began with Lovecraft, Smith and Howard. I prefer it that way, but it makes me feel a bit wistful to think about. Games like King's Quest and Talisman wouldn't get made in the same way today. I've watched it evolve within my lifetime.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

That’s an interesting point. Gary Chalk’s art in particular has always had a more folkloric feel to me. Something that definitely receded from a lot of mainstream fantasy worlds over time

@davidalessi8242 Жыл бұрын

and here I thought my gaming group was the only one with spirited Toad chants!

@stephenneedham106 Жыл бұрын

Would love a fighting fantasy deep dive! Toad toad toad toad!!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Fear not, I am working on one! Toad toad toad!

@RaidenfighterKirkov Жыл бұрын

Sir, i have to commit your videos are supreme. Thank you very much for those splendid informations.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words, I do my best!

@margaretwood152 6 ай бұрын

Just discovered this Gem, Thanx Jordan;-)

@lamrak Жыл бұрын

One more history is still uncovered: history of DungeonQuest! Love you stories, thanks a lot for them! and yes... ...Toad, toad, toad :)

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

DungeonQuest is on the long list of projects, that's for sure!

@ziploc2000 8 ай бұрын

I still have my original 1st edition set, plus the Dungeon, City and Timescape expansions, plus some reviews and other clippings relating to the game. Played the hell out of this at university with my pals in the late 80s.

@VengefulNonsense Жыл бұрын

Always love to find new KZfaqrs covering old GW stuff. Great content so far.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad you’ve enjoyed it!

@jamesmorgan3623 Жыл бұрын

@@jordansorcery Just want second this comment and add a comment for the algorithm. The quality and production values of your content is astounding.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, really appreciate the comment!

@Freyathrith Жыл бұрын

I thoroughly enjoyed that. You are a seriously charismatic presenter, too. TOAD TOAD TOAD!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I’m glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for the kind words! And those magic words - TOAD TOAD TOAD!

@sesmry Жыл бұрын

My brother bought Talisman as soon as the 2nd edition was released in Australia. I later bought it of him for $20. I still have that edition but my collection has grown vastly since and I still play to this day. My son and I will play several times a week and I never get sick of it.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I love it when I find a game like that - one I can play again and again and find something new every time, and especially when it’s a game I want to share with others!

@christopherhunt1957 Жыл бұрын

Talisman 2nd Edition got me into board games before being into board games was cool. We had so much fun with that game. It was a gateway drug to a lifelong addiction of love.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

These fun games have a sneaky way of taking over our lives, don’t they!

@allthingsnerd.4484 Жыл бұрын

I just discovered your channel today with this video! It is fantastic. I cannot wait for part 2! Talisman is the hobby game that got me into hobby gaming. Started with 2e and all expansions (except that elusive Dragons one) and then grabbed 3e base set only. Didn’t like the look of it and stuck with 2e. Fast forward MANY years and I happily grabbed the Black Industries/FFG 4the edition and ALLLLLLL those expansions. Even got to be a play tester for Relic and one of its expansions (have all those too). Have now even spread out into the IP themed Tallies like Harry Potter, Batman, Kingdom Hearts, and my absolute favorite version; Star Wars Talisman! I even have a tattoo of the Talisman on my calf so I will always be prepared to enter the Valley of Fire!😆. And yes; we ALWAYS chant “TOAD! TOAD! TOAD!” when the time comes to roll the dice to see if someone is turned into a toad or not. We even added a Jar-Jar Binks Lego minifig to the Star Wars Talisman set so that a “disoriented” (Star Wars Talisman’s word for being toaded) player gets full ridicule and mockery.😆😆

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I love that Jar Jar idea! That's a wonderful Talisman career, some fantastic editions in there! 3rd edition was the one that was out when I first got into Warhammer and it is indelibly etched into my consciousness as THE version of Talisman, despite it being a very particular flavour (bright red and skulls all over!), but the only version I actually own is Relic - a lovely edition that's for sure!

@borkbork2685 6 ай бұрын

God i played with game for the for the first time in late november of last year and fell in love with it, Of course I bought the 4th edition board lol

@Wieszaq666 3 ай бұрын

I am a happy owner or the 90s polish "remake" - Magiczny miecz (Magical Sword) along with all the expansions. Just yesterday I met with a group of friends and we played an 8-hour long game. Still has the magic in it 😉

@FizzyMcPhysics Жыл бұрын

The three concentric boards, and the punishing fall backs remind me of the game Ratrace, in which you have to climb from working class, through middle class, to high society, but could get sent back to the bottom of you fall on the Divorce squares. You have to collect status symbols in order to progress to the next tier.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I’ve not seen Ratrace but it certainly sounds similar, and an eerily accurate approximation of real life!

@jonweber.8.756 Жыл бұрын

Best newish gaming channel on youtube dude! Keep it up!!!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@MidnightCarp Жыл бұрын

Excellent video - looking forward to next part.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Not long to wait now!

@FNG0000 Жыл бұрын

Instant sub.Massive Respect for Polish version play them all.Can't wait for second part. In process of buying 4th edytion

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Have you been able to find a supplier for 4th Ed or is it 2nd hand? I didn’t realise until recently that it’s not currently in stock most places

@TVforyourCats 29 күн бұрын

Excellent video

@thehappyogryn Жыл бұрын

As always, an in depth story of another great game, this always take us down memory lane, great job.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Happy to help dust off the nostalgia!

@willreardon5116 Жыл бұрын

Recently found my copy of 2nd edition Talisman in my mum’s loft along with the Expansion Set and various extra character sheets me and my friends created and lovingly illustrated. We’d play the game for hours - if not days - over the summer holidays. Despite all the roll and move randomness of it all, it created some great stories. From making our first tentative steps on our quests, as lowly adventurers, to someone believing they had built up enough strength, skill and courage to enter the Portal of Power and run the gauntlet of trials to ultimately make their claim for the Crown of Command. Epic stuff! 😀

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I think that’s why Talisman has been so long lived - the opportunities for wild, fun stories with random twists and turns is unrivalled!

@slavaukraini1991 Жыл бұрын

I played this at the age of 9 or so back in 1989-1990 at a friends house...honestly i loved it but i didnt really know what i was doing. I think that was my first experience of fantasy gaming! Great vid ❤

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Fantastic first step into the hobby!

@shvagyerpl Жыл бұрын

I got Magiczny Miecz for Christmas in the 90s, loved it! :D Also a small pronunciation guide: Magia i Miecz -> Magya ee Myetsch (g as in 'get') Magiczny Miecz -> Mageetschnee Myetsch Cool video as always!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Amazing, thank you! I was definitely playing a dangerous game even attempting a pronunciation!

@jamesv.7041 Жыл бұрын

Great video to help erase some of my ignorance; get well soon!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I'm happy to help, and feeling a lot better now thank you!

@Mark-nh2hs Жыл бұрын

I remember Talisman 3rd Ed all plastic and skulls. Loved the game then many years later got a copy of FF edition and loved it even more lol.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

3rd edition is such a time capsule of 90s GW - classic designs and colours in that one!

@Mark-nh2hs Жыл бұрын

@@jordansorcery a time period I remember fondly as you could still get the old citadel minis and the new 90s look minis. And magic was power cards - aaaaaahhh such fond memories of the magic phase in WHF lol.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

You’re talking my language, incredible games back then! I love a lot of the games now too, but there’s still something magical about that ridiculous era!

@Mark-nh2hs Жыл бұрын

@@jordansorcery same here I play many different games but a real sucker for dungeon crawlers lol, yeah it was a great time period and had many great games and armies still in their infancy before the rot set in. Many great memories.

@jezhunt8394 Жыл бұрын

Another great retrospective, fella! Doing golden work on classic games. Looking forward to part two, and the potential look at Lone wolf. Also, as Shakespeare once wrote, "TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD!"

@Mark-nh2hs Жыл бұрын

When we got the toad it wasn't "Toad toad toad" more "Oh F off, not again!!!" Followed by many grumbles until you reverted back 🤣🤣🤣

@jezhunt8394 Жыл бұрын

@@Mark-nh2hs hahahaha

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Yes! Knew I’d get some chants going!

@felis1977 Жыл бұрын

Excellent material as always. Talisman was and still is my favourite board game. I've played it since the Polish version was released in 1989. To my surprise and delight I actually learned some new things from your video. Keep them coming :)

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad I had a few new bits of history for you! Plenty more on the way!

@eNJayBe Жыл бұрын

I’m really enjoying your videos, and I did join in chanting “Toad, toad, toad” at the end.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

That’s what I like to hear!

@atonuts44 Жыл бұрын

I love these types of video. I was lucky enough to find a copy of Talisman 2nd edition but haven’t played it yet. This vid has inspired me to get it out of the box!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I’m glad! That’s great, always pleased to inspire more gaming!

@volkarve Жыл бұрын

I watched this and immediately started looking for part 2...well, guess we'll have to wait for it

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Hopefully not too long a wait!

@idiotproofdalek Жыл бұрын

I remember poring over 2nd edition in WH Smiths as a teenager. I was desperate to have it and got it on my Birthday. Still got it!

@TheJimtanker 8 ай бұрын

LOVE THIS GAME. The Prophetess is so OP.

@Mr_Waffle. Жыл бұрын

I wish I could've played this as a kid, it looks incredible! Thanks for sharing this slice of history as always.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

It's a great family game I think, a level playing field and if no one takes it too seriously it can be terrific fun!

@anotherzingbo Жыл бұрын

I've never played Talisman but I remember it being about from my earliest days in the hobby. Thanks for filling in some of the blanks and I'm looking forward to your video about the skaven!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Just got to find enough warpstone for my computer and then I can get that skaven video edited!

@chrisherbert9924 Жыл бұрын

Looks a very interesting game to play

@cfosburg Жыл бұрын

Love this I lived through this and talisman was a special part of my childhood

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thank you! It’s a true classic, I’m glad I could bring a bit more of its story to light

@user-yl7lz1hm6r Жыл бұрын

Hey man, just a comment to say how top notch the quality of these vids are. Appreciate the research you are putting into these and sharing with community. Big nostalgia feels for many of the game series you've covered!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, really glad you’re enjoying the channel!

@19Bruno96 Жыл бұрын

Such a great channel, I heard about talisman recently and was surprised it was held to such a high regard next to games like monopoly in the board game scene, and this video got recomemmded to me at the right time! Subscribed and waiting excited for part two.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Glad I was there at the right moment!

@justanerd1138 Жыл бұрын

Soooooo many memories of spending all day playing this game as an adolescent (before that horrible era of adulthood befell me). It outstayed its welcome every time and we came back for that experience again and again. It has lots of flaws yet still a wonderful experience. "Stop stealing my horse and cart you jacka$$." "Face my Finger of Death!" :)

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

It really reminds me of Risk in that sense - so compelling that you always want another game, even though they can end up costing you days to play!

@ZenthaneX Жыл бұрын

OMG! So excited when I saw this drop! I never knew which version of the game it was that I fell in love with as a kid. As I didn't see it here I'm guessing it'll have been 3rd edition. Thank you so much for covering Talisman! My family and I enjoy a game or two every year, and it's always an event. Looking forward to Part 2!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome, love the idea of a family game that keeps coming back to the table. My family enjoys the odd party game, but no one title lasts long - current family favourite is Monikers!

@elgreebo Жыл бұрын

What a great peek into the history of my favourite board game, well done sir.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it!

@TheTalismanWizard 11 ай бұрын

Great video! Talisman is my favorite board game of all time and you certainly did a great job informing people about its rich history.

@jordansorcery 11 ай бұрын

It’s a classic, glad you enjoyed the video!

@mattcunnington1972 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jordan, this was brilliant, cannot wait for the next part, I have bought and played all editions of the game, and still play it today.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

My pleasure! Which has been your favourite edition to play?

@mattcunnington1972 Жыл бұрын

@Jordan Sorcery I think the current edition is my favourite. The base game gives you enough, but I like the sheer amount of add ons (The Reaper is my go to add on).

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

There’s a lot of options in 4th, that’s for sure!

@ivan55599 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for review. Now l want to play talisman again, but not just vanilla, but with more additions (which l didn't know the existed in foreign language).

@tonythesuperperson Жыл бұрын

The art on that Toad card is GREAT

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

It’s so good, isn’t it!

@mazubahtender Жыл бұрын

Another wonderful video! Talisman is one of those GW games I'm not as well versed in. I'm thinking of trying out the first few editions of WHFB at some point, but Talisman seems like such a fun game to try. And yes-yes! A Skaven video is something I'm so looking forward to! I've had to restrain myself from making a Skaven AoS army for the longest time, since I already have an Arch-Warlock mini.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I find Talisman to be most fun with a group of good friends where no one is taking it too seriously - it's a perfect beer and pretzels game to my mind. Restrain yourself?! This is an outrage against the horned rat, that arch-warlock needs a retinue!

@jonathan2950 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this, thanks. Looking forward to part 2. I have most content for 2nd edition and I always remember it growing up as my older brother had it. But it’s the 3rd edition I’m most fond of. Back in the day that copy was my own and the early/mid 90s was when I was most into GW games and minis. I’m also interested to hear you talk through all the expansions for 4th edition 🤣

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thank you! That 3rd edition is a classic to me - it was the one they were selling when I started in the hobby and I remember it vividly. Plus the dragon tower was incredible!

@Mark-nh2hs Жыл бұрын

Be that a Fur Beast Thunder Purrr I can hear in the intro lol

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Indeed it is, Martha wanted to do her own intro! Truth be told I completely forgot that microphones don’t just pick up my voice and nothing else in the room!

@Mark-nh2hs Жыл бұрын

@@jordansorcery hahaha it's always nice to hear a Fur Beast purr. At least she got her moment of fame 👍

@johnclarke25 Жыл бұрын

The city map was also released in the music paper sounds for a Christmas game where gobbos had to run round the city to get tickets to see bolt thrower play in the city,fun game but a shame it wasn't done in colour,I still have photo copies of the game and must paint it one day,also you can't beat bolt thrower to listen to when painting ork boys.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

That sounds amazing! What paper was that in?

@mathewperring Жыл бұрын

This was a classic game from my youth I played a lot of this with a friend who owned it. He was always the prophetess naturally, and I would struggle to keep up trying out different characters. He owned a lot of the expansions too. I had always wanted this game myself so when found out that 4th ed came along I plunged in and bought what I could being a hard up graduate student meant that was not everything released, having to decide to let go of some of the options that were less well received. And then it disappeared from publishing. When it was re-released, I instantly went and filled in the missing components now I made actual money. Favorite 4ed memory playing the troll going into the dungeon and pulling nothing but craft 1 and 2 monsters that beat me up! Talisman is a game about the journey not the destination. The crown of command is really just a reason to go traveling. People who get upset when the horrible black void is revealed instead of laughing are probably not the right fit for the game.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I think you're dead right, it has to be about the fun of the wild adventure more than who actually wins - otherwise there's too much to get upset about on every single turn!

@Jackalblade9 Жыл бұрын

And alas I have gone through your entire video library already! Talisman was a weird one for me. I played it once when I was ten(ish) and remember nothing about it except losing horribly. I don't think the rules were very clearly explained to me and overall I just had no sense of what I was doing. Which is a shame, because so many of my friends have told me about their great experiences with the game. Wonderful job sir, I'm looking forward to Part Two, and I hope you feel better soon! Also, love the cat!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Losing horribly is 90% of Talisman! But that’s what makes it a fun beer and pretzels kind of game, I think, as ever my one suffers the same ups and downs! Glad you’ve been enjoying the channel, plenty more videos to come!

@robscatchard3905 Ай бұрын

Brilliant thank you

@samt9387 6 ай бұрын

Great vid 👍

@prepcooksurvive5807 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the awesome content 🤜

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@CrimsonTemplar2 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I remember seeing the articles for Talisman when they came out, but never picked up the game - it’s reputation for dragging on dissuaded me. I’ve played the current iteration many times & love it. Glad to hear Bob got paid.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

3rd edition was on the shelves when I was getting into the hobby and it didn’t appeal as much as WHQ so it was many years before I actually played any Talisman! Well deserved pay off for Bob, that’s for sure!

@SpearheadMedia Жыл бұрын

I found your channel a few days ago and I've already almost binged the whole thing haha. Stellar stuff, keep up the great work and give Martha a wee pet for us.

@matthewanderson6559 Жыл бұрын

The Leprechaun mini for Talisman rivals the toads for best miniture ever

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Ha, he is awesome, but those toads have too strong a hold on me!

@batjutsu Жыл бұрын

Toad, Toad, Squeak-Squeak 🐸🐀🌠

@Crocodonk Жыл бұрын

Oh I get, Jordan Sorcercy kind of sounds like Sword n Sorcery. nice.

@bingobongo1615 Жыл бұрын

I like Talisman but there are two absolutely huge issues with it that dates the game: 1. Dying in the early stages is almost fun while in the midgame it will completely damn you to boring hopeless hours 2. It is at least 30min too long for its own sake since there isnt a lot of variation. Id love to play a slightly quicker / shorter version with some bonus for players who died to keep them motivated. (Like leveling up faster or altering the goal)

@brunswicklord6365 Жыл бұрын

I played Talisman First Edition at my war games club. It was not my game so when Second Edition came out I very much immediately bought it at my local GW store.. I have to tell you that it did indeed have the fold out game board NOT the jigsaw type version.. I assume that as it was an early print of second edition it was using boards that were originally destined for the first edition game. My edition is definitely second with new box art and coloured adventure cards ect.. it is a small point but one that is never mentioned in any review of second edition.

@LaBibliotecaEterna Жыл бұрын

Heroquest was only one vid but Talisman will be mutiple....am intriged now.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

All those expansions got on top of me! Plus I wasn't too well recently so editing really fell behind and I didn't want to skip a week!

@LaBibliotecaEterna Жыл бұрын

@@jordansorcery take your time, no rush needed.

@keepcalmandre-roll5480 Жыл бұрын

Nice intro to the history of Talisman, looking forward to part two. I have the current edition (plus Relic) and love the game. I also vaguely remember getting a free plastic wizard in White Dwarf back in the 90's that may have been linked to Talisman?

@TheSikThSenSE Жыл бұрын

I know the Wizard you mean, I have a odd memory that some Talisman minis were reused for Warhammer Quest? Also shout outs to the Talisman Goblin Fanatic mini, probably one of the best!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Relic is actually the only version of Talisman I currently own, its a beauty! I think they put a few of the different plastic wizards out with that White Dwarf, but I need to confirm!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

They showed some of the Talisman plastics in the preview materials for Warhammer Quest as the new Quest heroes weren't finished yet, but they were all new sculpts for WHQ. Though I think some of the monsters crossed over later on

@AmalgamAsh Жыл бұрын

TALISMAN! Talisman, the Enduring! Talisman, the Legendary! Talisman, the...Croaky! I have all of the third and fourth editions -- save for the physical dragon's tower itself for the third, and whatever most recently came out for the fourth. I like Third much more - Being able to play a goblin, skaven or chaos warrior, sign me up! Hope you feel better soon!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Cheers Ash, definitely on the mend now! For some time I’ve been regarding those copies of Talisman on your shelf behind you with envious eyes! A fine collection indeed!

@marcraygun6290 Жыл бұрын

The inquisitor is clearly a terminator from nemesis the warlock with slightly altered termight symbol (which I have tattoo of)

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I think you're probably right, some clear inspiration there!

@williammoore9794 Жыл бұрын

2nd Ed Talisman was great, although the quality of the expansions was a bit hit and miss. Having watched this it seems the better ones were by Bob Harris himself, and the others... weren't. I remember the version we got came with an FAQ and errata document covering the main game and first two expansions. There was huge amounts of corrections needed for Talisman the Adventure. Now I understand why!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Interestingly enough Bob Harris shares that opinion on his website - he was disappointed with the number of corrections needed for that expansion and knew he could have resolved them himself if he'd been involved!

@williammoore9794 Жыл бұрын

@@jordansorcery I will definitely have to check his website now! Thanks for the info 🙂

@leipherd8118 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic stuff! I was there from 1st edition, but never got the Dragons expansion as I was growing distant from GW at that point as a depressed late '80s teenager. Was it my imagination or was the Dragon set a mail order exclusive which might also have been cause for me to miss it? I did somehow manage to get 3rd edition in the early 90s(?) via a GW sale, which lured me back in. Also got both Slaves to Darkness books at the same time, and some quite unusual Citadel minis that were all loose in a big tub! Hated the art on 3rd edition though. It seemed that after Chalk and Blanche, it was a case of diminishing returns, especially City... Never heard about the French set! I'll have to look that up on Talisman Island?

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I saw some ads in White Dwarf for the Dragons set and they didn’t say it was mail order only, but knowing GW it’s certainly possible. The 3rd edition art is definitely a very different thing, but I don’t mind it these days! Thanks for the comment!

@thelaughingman4791 Жыл бұрын

TOAD TOAD TOAD

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

TOAD! TOAD! TOAD!

@mercster Жыл бұрын

As a base game it's not great, and if you just indiscriminately throw in all the expansions, it's horrible. But... if you carefully curate a list of addons and choose a ruleset (home rules) that complements it, it can be a lovely game. People tell me it's a horrible board game, but I love it. ☺

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I’m a big fan of experimenting with house rules and add-ons to get that perfect personal blend!

@ironbomb6753 9 ай бұрын

I actually was "toad"ing! Lol ❤😅👍

@grahamfroggatt4530 Жыл бұрын

Great start - I can’t wait for the next installment. Will you be covering the iOS game and all these strange variants which seem to have appeared in recent years? (Disney, Batman, Harry Potter etc) TOAD TOAD TOAD

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I'll definitely be touching on the franchise editions of Talisman, and the video games a little, assuming I can track them all down! I'm loving this toad chant!

@Michael.Virtus Жыл бұрын

Toad! Toad! Toad!

@fredrik241 8 ай бұрын

Me my brother and our geek friends loved playing the Swedish translation of the original Talisman as kids in the 80s. I seem to remember it was always best to play as the Monk character and believe we might even have banned him as a choice. Was Talisman a gateway drug to D&D or was it a more chill respite from long D&D campaigns? Don't remember maybe it was both? Interesting to hear the Lone Wolf name mentioned I used to play a lot of those books and have been thinking they were Fighting Fantasy branded but coming to realise they were maybe their own thing. They were also Swedish translations and maybe branding got a bit diluted in the translate and re-publish process.

@andrewtomlinson5237 Жыл бұрын

You can keep your Heroquest and any other fantasy board-game... Talisman was the best!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

This is a bold offer! I've enjoyed a good bit of Talisman and HeroQuest over the years, but I will proudly claim Warhammer Quest as my dungeon BAE!

@MrLinindoll Жыл бұрын

My partner and I play Talisman 4th revised often and we have all of the expansions except for Sacred Pool, Harbinger and the Cataclysm. I’ve always been interested in the crossover between Talisman and the larger Warhammer Fantasy World. The Crown of Command for example is a Warhammer Fantasy artifact that has made appearances elsewhere in the lore. In the White Dwarf expansion to WHQ: Shadows over Hammerhal for example, a Crown of Command artifact card comes with that issue. Did you come across or are you aware of any other appearances of the Crown of Command? And of course Talisman Third Edition is entirely set in the Warhammer World. I’m interested in hearing your thoughts and observations on these connections.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I think this is a great point! I’ve been trying to research more about whether 3rd edition can truly be considered set in the Warhammer Old World, and it still doesn’t feel quite as conclusive as I’d like. Things like the Crown turning up elsewhere is a good argument in favour though!

@MrLinindoll Жыл бұрын

@@jordansorcery I found that the Crown of Command is a magical item/artifact found in Warhammer Fantasy Battles in at least 4th, 5th and 8th Edition. It had its own card in the 4 & 5e “Battle Magic” supplements for WFB and is listed in 8e books.

@cosmicwartoad2587 Жыл бұрын

I played the Spectrum version

@markysgeeklab8783 Жыл бұрын

Nice vid, I'm not even a talisman fan :)

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It feels like Talisman is the great marmite of the boardgaming world!

@nashpainting 7 ай бұрын

Of course I chanted 😇

@jamescann9152 Жыл бұрын

I'm sure others have asked - can you do Chainsaw Warrior?

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

That’s an interesting suggestion! It’s a good shout for the project long list! In the meantime, if you’ve not seen it @arbitorian did an excellent play through of it a little while back

@CarlEmmoth Жыл бұрын

Best game.

@CarlEmmoth Жыл бұрын

I got the Swedish version and we loved it. Then we bought, by mail order, the expansion, adventure and dragon set. Still keep it close :)

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Fantastic stuff! I'm always a little jealous when people have that continuity from their youth as I've made the mistake of selling many wonderful games off only to have rebuy them!

@bramackermans9153 Жыл бұрын

I chanted🤘

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Excellent work!

@cosmicwartoad2587 Жыл бұрын

Available on STEAM

@mattl_ Жыл бұрын

Is anyone still selling Talisman? I can only find broken links and missing products.

@garysmith6218 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not, GW took the rights back from Fantasy Flight Games a few years back and there has been no sign of it since. I'm thankful to still have my 4th edition set as it's a wonderfully simple little game. Perfect for those game nights when you don't have much mental bandwidth.

@allthingsnerd.4484 Жыл бұрын

Well, sort of…. The OP (USAopoly) has been making alternate themed versions of it for a few years now under license from GW. The Star Wars version is my personal favorite, but there is also Harry Potter, Kingdom Hearts, and Batman Villains.

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Yeah it looks like the franchise remakes are the only 'current' editions still in print. Strangely the GW site still has details about all of the revised edition releases, but no way to actually buy them, sadly

@cosmicwartoad2587 Жыл бұрын

@@garysmith6218 You tried STEAM?

@elizajyeah Жыл бұрын

Hank on video when?

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Haha, he made a guest appearance on instagram, but he doesn’t love gaming as much as Martha does!

@bilbarcooks4681 Жыл бұрын

For the Polish pronunciation the accebted letter "l" is pronounced as a w and the "cz" is pronounced as a "ch"

@bilbarcooks4681 Жыл бұрын

Think of a scouser saying my watch, "me wa'ch"

@stevekearns6173 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I said toad!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

Toad!

@Darthborg Жыл бұрын

Demon king…. You meant dragon king??

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

I did indeed! I caught my mistake right at the end of editing and included a blink and you'll miss it correction to try and redeem my shame!

@Riyansifu-dz8xd 2 ай бұрын

@cosmicwartoad2587 Жыл бұрын

Who's the moggy?

@cosmicwartoad2587 Жыл бұрын

The PC version's great and you can spend weeks on a single game. I've also got the PC version of GW's dracula game. But with 'inflation' (yeah, sure. We all know it's just an exscuse to increase prices) Warhammer games've become a bit expensive. COME ON, PARLIAMENT. DON''T DEBATE THE MATTER AND SET UP COMMITEES. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT INSTEAD BEFORE THE PEOPLE DO SOMETHING ABOUT YOU!!!!

@Utubesuxmycock Жыл бұрын

Hey man you're awesome. Great job. Big fan of talisman. The game deserves more love and less scorn. I still play 3rd edition which is my favorite. Has that 90s old school art which was has been lost and was so characteristic of GW. My most prized board game is the dragons tower expansion...brand new! I got off ebay for like 300. Also love relic 40k...talisman in spaaaaaaace. Hopefully you cover that cheers!

@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын

No, you’re awesome! I’ll definitely be talking Relic, and that genuinely awesome dragon tower expansion for 3rd ed! Thanks for watching!