History of WWI Primer 056: Belgian FN 1903 Documentary

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7 жыл бұрын

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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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@jeronimomurruni 7 жыл бұрын

"John Browning had pushed the limits of the blowback action". I can hear Hi-Point laughing

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

they just added mass. slide weight to power this is nuts

@robertbean8116 7 ай бұрын

Interesting fun factoid (may or may not be true) this is the first pistol owend by his divine holiness the Dali Lama (free Tibet) . He was given it and instructed in its use by an officer of the Tzar by the name of Mannerhime. This would have occurred about 1906. Mannerhime would go on to become a famous Finnish Field Marshall , the Dali lama (same soul new incarnation) is with us still.

@SebastianSzukalski 7 жыл бұрын

I have no idea why C&R does not have 10X as many subscribers as they do. This channel is amazing, in terms of content, presentation, and production quality.

@windogendoors7566 7 жыл бұрын

It is possibly the best channel to get accurate, non-biased information. Love it.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

It is long and I talk a lot

@borkwoof696 7 жыл бұрын

Sebastian Szukalski because most people aren't as interested in military history as they claim to be

@wierdalien1 7 жыл бұрын

Hagen most people dont claim to care

@spokanesurvivaltrainingand5797 7 жыл бұрын

intelligent people have longer attention spans.

@AK_Respecter 7 жыл бұрын

"The length feels great, the narrowness feel amazing." - Othias (2017)

@LYLEWOLD 7 жыл бұрын

lol

@johnclemens5720 6 жыл бұрын

Have a Swedish M 07, converted to 380 ACP, works 100% with 380 ACP ammo, big heavy shoots like a 22LR, extremely accurate, great gun!

@ToastytheG 7 жыл бұрын

1903 hammerless is by far the coolest gun in my collection. Cadillac of pocket pistols.

@Z09SS 7 жыл бұрын

The other guns are right behind you. They can hear you!

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

dang

@brandongarcia4681 4 жыл бұрын

They get jealous sometimes!

@JackDo-lu8ux 6 жыл бұрын

Seaman Jack Do reporting for R&R Sargent Othias! I'm now a bit more than six months into my service in the Navy. Thanks for keeping the show up! I try to watch your episodes every now and then. Thanks again for all the hard work done to keep this channel afloat. A Real Korean Navy Sailor, Jack.

@orangypteco8858 7 жыл бұрын

By the way Mr Marston, this is for you.

@TheBiggestIron 7 жыл бұрын

Orangy Pteco you completed my day man. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

@tsycho1619 4 жыл бұрын

Was hoping to find a RDR reference. Had to scroll only 3 seconds. Thanks, fella.

@stacy3 3 жыл бұрын

Orangy Pteco i came from rd guns

@mattlf9120 3 жыл бұрын

Shoves the muzzle into his gut.

@user-kt8yp5ho2y 7 жыл бұрын

This FN M1903 pistol is legal and popular in Canada because the Colt M1903 is prohibited. That mean is illegal to carry it.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

That e2 law is so weird

@user-kt8yp5ho2y 7 жыл бұрын

C&Rsenal I know! It's crazy you know!

@taofledermaus 7 жыл бұрын

It makes me think, what OTHER machines that are over 100 years old that haven't changed very much in their design that we still use today?

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

hats

@andersbendsen5931 6 жыл бұрын

Sails?

@baker90338 6 жыл бұрын

Spoons.

@wierdalien1 6 жыл бұрын

TAOFLEDERMAUS knives

@trekaddict 5 жыл бұрын

.50 BMG. And the basic design of the Ma Deuce, while not quite there, is close.

@TheIndianalain 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for playing "La Brabançonne", the Belgian anthem during the firing sequence! Excellent video as usual!

@ryanbrown5905 7 жыл бұрын

I don't know what worse. Having rewatched the entire series in a week or kinda fancying doing it again.

@TheBiggestIron 7 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite handguns of the era, anybody remember it in Red Dead Redemption?

@aaronsejas6442 7 жыл бұрын

- TheNuttyGunNut - I literally thought it was a 1911 but then I took a look at it, researched it and I got interested in the gun

@thelegate8636 7 жыл бұрын

- TheNuttyGunNut - That game gave me an obsession with the Krag, the Borchardt C93, and this FN. Recently bought a Krag, so I'm a third of the way there.

@TheBiggestIron 7 жыл бұрын

Carolus Rex I know exactly how you feel. That game got me deeper into "forgoten weapons" of the era. Watching Cowboys with autoloaders so cool, then knowing how it could have been possible. The death of the West Was a truly interesting time.

@charlesinglin 7 жыл бұрын

If I recall, in one of John Wayne's later westerns, set in the 1890's, one of the characters has an early semi-auto pistol.

@charlesinglin 7 жыл бұрын

Found it. "Big Jake." It's supposed to be 1909 and it's a movie prop "Bergmann 1911".

@deltavee2 4 жыл бұрын

Stick around? Been watching in sequence from the start every night on a royal binge which is not COVID inspired because this is just that good! And I'm retired. Now on to possibly the best looking revolver of all time, the Chamelot-Delvigne. Thank you from the Great White North.

@jamesneedham5799 7 жыл бұрын

This truly is a fabulous channel, the research and knowledge is probably beyond parallel in circles producing content as accessible as this. Excellent stuff!

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@ZGryphon 6 жыл бұрын

I've suspected it for years, and seeing Othais disassemble this one confirmed it for me: the Tokarev is this pistol with a proper locking system added. Ol' Fedor T even kept that infuriatingly overlong recoil spring that wants to jump out of the bottom and get kinked the instant the slide comes forward. :)

@lookythat2 4 жыл бұрын

The Tok is the marriage of this pistol (FN 1903), tilting barrel locking system, and the cartridge of the C96 Mauser (well, almost). You can almost hear somebody telling T what he'd like in a pistol (oh, and the trigger group/hammer assembly from the Spanish pistols, if memory serves). And the Tok is still a viable pistol, even with its limitations, IMHO.

@Jason-c1b3r 6 жыл бұрын

Seeing this episode makes me think Hi Point could have been granted a military contract for WW1 had they been in business

@beardannyboy 3 жыл бұрын

Cool to see the evolution of browning pistols. I was looking for the roots of the tokarev tt-33. Thanks for the lead about the toggle link.

@JonManProductions 7 жыл бұрын

I knew the 1895 wasn't going to be next (considering O-san said so last time), nice to see a pistol episode again. Best bedtime stories on a early Tuesday morning.

@JonManProductions 7 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling though next episode is either a 1911, an MG of somekind, or another odd-ball.

@FiveStringCommando 7 жыл бұрын

Great video. I am kind of surprised that y'all didn't mention it's smaller American cousin, the Colt 1903/1908 Hammerless in any capacity.

@Hopolit1 7 жыл бұрын

I love it, where can I buy one? Husqvarna made around 94000 of those babies from 1917-1940.

@lordDenis16 7 жыл бұрын

Love the new map guys! Great addition! :D

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

thanks

@amateurshooter927 7 жыл бұрын

Just got home from second shift, great timing guys! Thanks for the upload!

@thurin84 7 жыл бұрын

great episode! i always enjoy the chemistry. its like tales of the gun with your goofy gun friends.

@yoshiobermeyer2867 7 жыл бұрын

Just another great episode, thanx guys!!

@mofal1703 7 жыл бұрын

I got 10 service stars with this gun in Battlefeild 1 so I know it as good as Othius lol

@Bayan1905 7 жыл бұрын

I had one, was a bringback from somewhere, no import marks and was in some old guy's sock drawer. Mine was made in 1907 and was still in the old 9mm Browning Long. Shot wonderfully, wished I had still kept it.

@feldweible 7 жыл бұрын

Looks an awful lot like the Tokarev T33. Which I love.

@deepbludreams 7 жыл бұрын

Considering the TT33 is basicly a Colt 1903 that's mixed with a 1911, that'd be why the TT looks so familer.

@MEGALODONGERS 7 жыл бұрын

Another thing to note is that the German Dreyse M1907 was designed heavily after JMB's FN M1900. Many firearm manufacturers loved JMB's designs so much that they really couldn't wait for the patents to expire, if not actually try to dodge them (in the case of the Dreyse pistol).

@NeptuneBluez 7 жыл бұрын

Johnny B is the man! Will you do a review of the FN GP 35 someday? I do have a feeling that a 1911 episode is on its way. Yeah! Mae and Othais, great work as usual. Keep'em coming.

@CommunistRaccoonDog 7 жыл бұрын

Possibly one of my favorite pistols. Nice job as always guys.

@snowwhite7677 7 жыл бұрын

It's hard to tell which was J Browning better at? Business or Gun Design? Imagine how difficult International Business was back then, and keeping these Patents straight, and keeping these Corporations from constantly suing each other...

@andrewmoore7022 3 жыл бұрын

Well with Browning designs there was a pretty clear cut deal on who would sell them and where.

@MechanizedFantasy 7 жыл бұрын

Mmmm, midnight gun history video. Delightful!

@ludditeneaderthal 7 жыл бұрын

Lol, I actually heard the difference on her first shot, that yippy crack. I remember a Colt pocket in .380 that was similar, though a little higher pitched. Maybe that slide shape and that interrupted lug just resonate nicely for 9s? It really is more the pocket model Colt cad'd up 25% in a couple dimensions, lol. Can hardly wait for your historical perspective moments on the parallel rulers, the trials guns, and the decade of tweaking, tinkering, and improving that turned a very 19th century design into the template of modern military pistol. Shhh, don't mention the model, save the surprise. As ALWAYS (seriously), exemplary episode!!

@rssvss 2 жыл бұрын

The noise of a 1903 is like fingers on a chalkboard to me. and i think it is well above par for a pistol. i have no idea why either. lol

@russellthompson8414 4 жыл бұрын

If you ever happen to be in the area, Ogden Utah has a Browning museum at the union station. Not exactly research level stuff, but a nice little museum.

@gunsbeersmemes 7 жыл бұрын

FINALLY ANOTHER VIDEO! Because they were used in rear echelon, any chance we'll see a Krag-Jørgensen video?

@gunsbeersmemes 7 жыл бұрын

D3faulted1 Ah, cool! Thanks, D3faulted1!

@jacktheaviator4938 Жыл бұрын

These first Browning blowback pistols may have worked like a charm, but they are definitely the most awkward looking pocket pistols ever made. That slide extension on the back above the hand is just uncouth.

@chefemilj 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the history

@insertjjs 7 жыл бұрын

Love the series. I feel depressed every other Tuesday because I know that there isn't a new episode and thus that Tuesday isn't as good. I can't wait for my c&r tshirts.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Just load up on markisms

@tangero3462 7 жыл бұрын

I first read that as marxisms and was really confused

@jimvandemoter6961 7 жыл бұрын

Mark has been a great addition to this channel. He's truly an old school craftsman. He does incredible work, and is a lot of fun to watch. A real character in the best way.

@evanabrams1873 7 жыл бұрын

You don't actually need to take the bushing out to remove the slide. I have an m/07 and find it much easier to take the slide off then remove the bushing after it no longer has spring tension retaining it.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

True. Old 1911 habits

@00jeepxj61 7 жыл бұрын

i have beer, pizza, othias and mae... tis a good night!

@Jarastlad 7 жыл бұрын

Release just in time for the Belgians ! Thanks for the great video, as usual, there's a lot I learnt. If only it was easier to get your hands on firearms here ...

@deepbludreams 7 жыл бұрын

Does this mean the messiah born in the year of our lord 1911 will be a coming episode?

@Isildun9 5 жыл бұрын

keith moore I think he's referring to the Colt-Browning 1911 as the Messiah. Ian is still Gun Jesus, Hallowed be His Name.

@swagner58 7 жыл бұрын

May's comments about the proportions between the grip and the slide confirmed what I was thinking when was looking at it earlier in the video. I hate to say it, it looks almost like a Hi-Point (if not as extreme). I wonder what the weight of the slide is compared to a pistol of similar power with a locking breech, that's how Hi-Point gets away with straight blow-back 9mm and 45s, having that mammoth zinc slide.

@nickwilson1476 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent animation!!

@rickcreel9557 3 жыл бұрын

You and Mae rock

@timblack6422 2 жыл бұрын

Your research is second to none

@UnkyNik 7 жыл бұрын

I've got an original Swedish contract example ser.9666, which also has a rack no. of 'A1 No.266'. Meaning the contract started with ser.9401. I'm with you guys in that it is my fave WWI pistol and I love taking it to the range. It also has Swedish army markings on the back of the slide which I need your help in deciphering: H-C. C.J. under the Swedish crown. If you know what these initials stand for, I will be forever in your debt. Keep up the great work!

@Ashcrash82 4 жыл бұрын

Initials of the inspectors for the Swedish military. www.gotavapen.se/gota/m07/pist07_3.htm is a great resource for these.

@ewhays 7 жыл бұрын

Great video. As for the recoil. Maybe the spring is more of a .380 spring, since it was re-barreled.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

That has been suggested but the spring looked uncut. Will look further into it in the future

@theoldenfield4106 7 жыл бұрын

And I thought the Winchester '95 was next! Still, good to see Johnny B's legacy in this pistol development.

@stevejew6345 7 жыл бұрын

Ahh something to listen to while at work

@haboob308 7 жыл бұрын

Uploaded on my birthday! It was more or less the worst day of my life, then this popped up and all was put to right!

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

happy birthday

@GinSoakedBoy 7 жыл бұрын

Way late to the party. Love that piece. Great vid as usual.

@MadBaronFlys 7 жыл бұрын

Was Mae even talking? I could not keep my eyes off that M1907 carbine just above her head... *drools...* A holy grail in our own time.

@LifeStyle-uh1ns 7 жыл бұрын

Strong recoil and desire to tighten up recoil spring? Maybe the recoil spring weakened a bit over the century?

@stephen9869 7 жыл бұрын

Dammit. Why did I watch that TFB TV thing on this gun only yesterday......well at least I only saw the first few minutes.

@pirate5019 7 жыл бұрын

I guess you can say, this video was pretty, "FN" awesome!

@mefirst5427 2 жыл бұрын

You should do a side by side review of the Tokarev and FN 1903

@therideneverends1697 7 жыл бұрын

Mea (or Mai not sure how to spell it) has that early 1900s shooting stance nailed!

@Ashcrash82 4 жыл бұрын

I know I'm late to the party, but I actually just picked up a Husqvarna m/07 last week, and have done some digging into these guns a little. I believe the pistols that were imported and barrel sleeved to .380 also had their recoil springs shortened slightly. If the one Mae shot simply had its barrel replaced with a NOS 9x20, it may have had the weaker recoil spring in it, which she noted seemed a little weak.

@codypanek 7 жыл бұрын

That shorty Mosin behind Mae at 27:50... can't wait for that thing to spit flame :D

@ayarzeev8237 7 жыл бұрын

Great video, keep it up yall

@VinnyS9143101982 7 жыл бұрын

I'm on episode 31. There are a few episodes after 31 that I've seen but I'm trying to go down the list. See yo guys on here in maybe a week

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

godspeed

@VinnyS9143101982 7 жыл бұрын

I actually didn't see you until you appeared on the Great War. But I'm amazed at how much content you have. One person you can talk to about Mil Surps is Eric from IraqVeteran8888. He has probably the finest privately owned Mil Surp collection in the country.

@jamesgillis5429 7 жыл бұрын

In 20 years I expect your children to do a similar type of series

@aussiebloke609 5 жыл бұрын

I know Mae isn't a fan of the magazine heel release, but it made sense for the time. Generally one was issued a limited number of magazines, so dumping them on the ground to be trampled underfoot wasn't acceptable. The heel release means the mag is either drawn out by hand, or it pops straight into the hand operating the release, so you can drop it into your pocket for later reloading without having to grub around in the mud to find the damn thing first (and probably so there's less chance of damage to the mag from being stepped on before you get around to bending down and picking it up.) I've never had a problem with the heel release (admittedly, it was a 1910 FN32 - but it's the same release system as far as I can tell), but I've always had a very limited number of mags, so I sure didn't want to lose or damage one. These days, it seems they're pretty much disposable, but priorities (and budgets) were rather different back then.

@JakeBrownx 6 жыл бұрын

Most beautiful handgun of all time in my opinion

@jumrobe 7 жыл бұрын

I see the visible rifles on the wall behind Othias keep changing. I see that 1895 Winchester and RSC 1917.

@snipersl270 4 жыл бұрын

Given how the pistol felt to shoot and run the slide, what are the chances they put in a 380 appropriate mainspring when they changed the barrel from 9mm long?

@horacegentleman3296 4 жыл бұрын

It's a lot easier to unlock the barrel from the frame first when taking it down.

@maxheadspace2975 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent work as always. Are you still posting videos to Full 30?

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Nope. They can't seem to handle larger videos and uploading became a HUGE problem.

@Mildcat743 7 жыл бұрын

Squint and its a Tokarev

@garygenerous8982 7 жыл бұрын

Wooo gun video!

@rons511 4 жыл бұрын

I happen to have a smaller / shorter slide version that was shot only seven times by an old timer who gifted it to me .

@joemitchell877 3 жыл бұрын

WELL DONE ; AS ALWAYS ..! HUGE FAN & ADMIRE JOHN M BROWNING .. I HAD NICKEL PLATED 1903 32 ACP.. EXCELLENT " pocket carry / purse Gun

@thendnjedi1388 3 жыл бұрын

I really love this pistol, I love the pocket model colt made but it’s too small for me this one seems it will fit my hand better if I only I had a million bucks or born where this gun was the new thing.

@jefffradsham2297 2 жыл бұрын

It is really impressive to see how much of Browning's technology is still in use today! and you know how hard the world tried to do better.

@patrickl7229 7 жыл бұрын

So 1903 Pocket Hammerless is next?

@zombiedestoryer8981 7 жыл бұрын

saw a new c&rsenal video insta liked.

@warrenrhinerson6373 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: in the 1981 novel License Renewed, this gun is the pistol of choice of James Bond when his Walther ppk was banned by MI6

@ahall1459 3 жыл бұрын

Nice...

@deanokken8960 7 жыл бұрын

Please do an episode on the RSC-17!

@GIR9595 7 жыл бұрын

Sherlock Holmes seeing as there's one literally right behind him I'm guessing they'll get to it

@viktordtz2080 2 жыл бұрын

The national belgian anthem on old record during fire test, nice idea ;)...

@flavortown3781 7 жыл бұрын

that old bright blue is so pretty

@MUCKLEECH 7 жыл бұрын

Daaaaang campaign funded 365% hahahaha. Got mine coming, thanks guys love the videos!!!

@ayarzeev8237 7 жыл бұрын

How many people stay up to midnight to see what the next gun will be?

@nindger4270 7 жыл бұрын

Beautiful thing to live in Europe in this instance, I get up in the morning and then I have a new C&R episode to watch. :D

@arno838 7 жыл бұрын

haha i feel you

@jimvandemoter6961 7 жыл бұрын

I'm at my reloading bench, decapping and resizing a couple hundred rounds of brass and watching a new C&Rsenal video. It's a good day. ;D

@zombiedestoryer8981 7 жыл бұрын

i was but i had a long day

@CommunistRaccoonDog 7 жыл бұрын

Stayed up till 3:00 am for the new vid

@tombogan03884 7 жыл бұрын

One reason for it's obsurity may be the caliber that isn't used by anything else. Even the conversion to .380 would have been little help since .32 was the big name then, .380 didn't come into it's own till later.

@halfcantan1208 3 жыл бұрын

I really like the intro music ,sad and tragic very apt ,anybody know what it is

@surtofgods8265 2 жыл бұрын

I know this is years late but, when discussing where the guns could be marketed. When saying "Britain" does that include British territories or just the isles?

@MCG55555 7 жыл бұрын

Is this FN 1903 day? Mike at TFB TV released a video on this too.

@nicholasford4820 7 жыл бұрын

Haven't been in my gun safe in a bit, but I have an Ottoman 1903 and I swear the markings are different than shown here. Is there more than one variation on that?

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

You want ne to research becore you confirm?

@nicholasford4820 7 жыл бұрын

C&Rsenal Course not, was just posting from work. Pulled mine out and it's definitely different. The marking on the right of the slide is the same but has a 4 digit number to its left. The top of the slide is totally different, a tughra with no number.

@nicholasford4820 7 жыл бұрын

Don't think I can post pictures here but could send them via email or Facebook if you're interested.

@pauldwigans4193 2 жыл бұрын

@@Candrsenal I bought the 9mm barrel and the ammo to match. Is there special tooling to replace the .380 barrel? I can't get the gun to function when I switched out the 380 barrel for the original 9mm barrel.

@kirkmooneyham 2 жыл бұрын

Watching this video, I have only one question: where do you guys get that old ammo? Does some company still make short runs of it, or do you have to use existing brass in some other longer caliber and trim it before handloading?

@danielkorladis7869 2 жыл бұрын

hand loads IIRC

@Mildcat743 7 жыл бұрын

Also, I saw that extra round you snuck in the mag, Bruno

@MaxwellAerialPhotography 5 жыл бұрын

Does anyone has a source for the old fashioned world map used in this episode?

@kurtkenehan8017 5 жыл бұрын

such a great gun to shoot

@newhuskytwenty 6 жыл бұрын

Pushing the limits of a blowback action with that caliber, less powerful than the 9 mm Luger? What about the Astra 400 and its 9 mm Largo (9 x 23 mm)

@tangero3462 7 жыл бұрын

The missing link? You mean missing _swinging_ link? *buhdum tiss* I'll show myself out

@pixiniarts 7 жыл бұрын

When you are firing the weapons would you mind leaving out the music or just uploading a music free clip? I like to hear the different reports from the firearms.

@Dominik189 5 жыл бұрын

Darn rotating barrel parents. FN could have made these locked breach if it only weren't for them. We could have had a European 1911 that differed from the US one by breach locking system.