History of WWI Primer 114: German Maschinen Pistole 18, I a.k.a. MP18,I Documentary

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4 жыл бұрын

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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
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Additional reading:
The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols
Joachim Gortz, Geoffrey Sturgess
Machine Guns of World War I
Robert Bruce
Leitfaden für die Maschinen Pistole 18, I (1920)
The Schmeisser Myth
Martin Helebrant
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@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 4 жыл бұрын
And so, the Germans had finally created something that was simple. However, they then realized that they were in fact Germans, and in order to narrowly avoid total national embarrassment, paired it with a magazine system that was twice as complicated as itself. Order was swiftly, and thoroughly, restored.
@Vincent-S
@Vincent-S 4 жыл бұрын
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
@KPen3750
@KPen3750 4 жыл бұрын
German over engineering, the world is in order
@cannonfodder4376
@cannonfodder4376 4 жыл бұрын
Oh that had me chuckling. Such is the German way. 😂🤣
@dak4465
@dak4465 4 жыл бұрын
@@cannonfodder4376 same dude
@zoperxplex
@zoperxplex 4 жыл бұрын
The story of twentieth century Germany in a nutshell.
@piatpotatopeon8305
@piatpotatopeon8305 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin the Grenadier is now a obligatory NPC in every game I run from this point onward.
@Roflcopter4b
@Roflcopter4b 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Kevin. He died far too young.
@SumoKevin
@SumoKevin 4 жыл бұрын
:)
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 4 жыл бұрын
@@Roflcopter4b Agreed, at the age of 84. Of pulmonary edema. Godspeed, sweet prince.
@cptreech
@cptreech 4 жыл бұрын
Is he friends with Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner?
@baker90338
@baker90338 4 жыл бұрын
cptreech he’s less a friend, more a drinking buddy.
@jonathanballmann7569
@jonathanballmann7569 4 жыл бұрын
The original angry pipe
@ArpaZha
@ArpaZha 3 жыл бұрын
High quality angry pipe
@ArpaZha
@ArpaZha 3 жыл бұрын
@Charles Yuditsky Yes
@pelao824
@pelao824 4 жыл бұрын
A couple of years ago a bank was robbed at gunpoint in my city (Santiago, Chile) with a "Machinegun". The culprit was caught, and so its gun, which was an MP18, which was donated to a museum.
@spyridon3089
@spyridon3089 4 жыл бұрын
And they lived happily ever after
@pelao824
@pelao824 4 жыл бұрын
@@spyridon3089 I was actually amazed someone recognized what it was and decided to save it. Standard procedure here is to destroy the gun after the paperwork is done.
@TheKingOfJordan1
@TheKingOfJordan1 4 жыл бұрын
I 100% would've guessed the gun would've been destroyed after being used in a crime. Amazing that it was sent to a museum
@sharkfinbite
@sharkfinbite 4 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the guy to have his sub stolen from him. It couldn't have been the original owner robbing people. He would have known he could have sold the damn gun and make a a lot of money. Either way he was a dumb ass if he was or not the original owner. Selling his antique was a lot better than robbing. incompetent.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 4 жыл бұрын
@@pelao824 Picture the guy in the police evidence room happening to be a historical gun buff. "We got the perp's gun." "Yeah yeah, put it over there--HOLY SHIT" (except in Spanish, of course)
@FearlessLeader2001
@FearlessLeader2001 4 жыл бұрын
I would've loved if the intro was, "Hi! I'm Othias, and war were declared."
@mmouse1886
@mmouse1886 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder what other wartime weapons are left that can be described as that.
@planescaped
@planescaped 4 жыл бұрын
If he were going to do that with anything, it would've been the MP18 And at a minute and a half, that's practically what we got.
@CyborgPilord
@CyborgPilord 3 жыл бұрын
We wouldnt see those blitzkrieg tactics coming
@fshn4x4
@fshn4x4 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm War, and Othais were declared.
@avanticurecanti9998
@avanticurecanti9998 4 жыл бұрын
>December >month of Christmas >Othias has a machine gun now Ho ho ho
@xmm-cf5eg
@xmm-cf5eg 4 жыл бұрын
Die Hard: War Were Declared [In theaters this summer.]
@justastrider3252
@justastrider3252 3 жыл бұрын
Ian is gun jesus and Othias is gun santa. The lore has expanded
@danielr.8044
@danielr.8044 4 жыл бұрын
"Hugo Sad" I laughed so damn hard
@MachoMadness69420
@MachoMadness69420 4 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal: MP18 is good at close range, but weak and inaccurate at long range. 1917 Enfield is good at long range, but slow at short range. BAR is able to do both, but 30-06 is a bit much at full auto. It’s almost like someone should make a cartridge that’s somewhere between pistol caliber and full power rifle caliber, and then fire it out of a select fire rifle. I wonder if that will ever catch on?🤔
@OrangeAmped
@OrangeAmped 4 жыл бұрын
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Somewhere in KZfaq, Ian and Karl are smiling.
@OtterTreySSArmy
@OtterTreySSArmy 3 жыл бұрын
Othais didn't say it either but it also had to be German designed. Man I'm not sure anything like that could ever exist🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@Galahad_Du_Lac
@Galahad_Du_Lac 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it would be great for assaults.
@renanribeiro8137
@renanribeiro8137 2 жыл бұрын
@@OtterTreySSArmy Hugo Schmeisser: :)
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 2 жыл бұрын
M2 Carbine came close.
@wingracer1614
@wingracer1614 4 жыл бұрын
Hit all 4 targets at least twice at 100 meters in a single mag dump. That's actually quite impressive. Well done Mae and goes to show how controllable it is.
@maewinchester2030
@maewinchester2030 4 жыл бұрын
Once it gets going, you just lean into it. Had a lot of fun at this shoot.
@phprofYT
@phprofYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@maewinchester2030 If war were declared anytime soon ... I'd want to be on your side. Just saying.
@thomastheisman1751
@thomastheisman1751 4 жыл бұрын
Love your grin after firing, Mae.
@maewinchester2030
@maewinchester2030 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomastheisman1751 Who couldn't grin after firing?! That was way too much fun!
@gunnarkvinlaug7226
@gunnarkvinlaug7226 4 жыл бұрын
If not for her ears the smile would have vent all around her head!
@AgentPepsi1
@AgentPepsi1 3 жыл бұрын
Being a German teacher, the German word for "improved" is "verbessert"
@fuckinantipope5511
@fuckinantipope5511 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. There is barely a logical word that would fit for the thing to be an "I" except maybe Infanterie. So I am quite sure it's a roman 1. Or it's a "I" for some other marking and isn't short for a word
@bend1483
@bend1483 4 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t prepared for such an early WWD! My monocle nearly fell out!
@coolspruta
@coolspruta 4 жыл бұрын
I had to fish mine out of my cognac. The audacity!
@1960HikerDude
@1960HikerDude 3 жыл бұрын
Mae's big 'ol grin after those 32 round full-auto mag dumps says it all.
@Odin029
@Odin029 4 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute. My left eye hadn't even started to close when War Were Declared. This should be one heck of an episode
@mattwalters6834
@mattwalters6834 3 жыл бұрын
Why just the left eye?
@ravenlord_xix
@ravenlord_xix 4 жыл бұрын
You release this near Christmas, and didn’t go “Ho Ho Ho now I have a (sub) machine gun” when you went into the breakdown? Missed opoutunity
@marvinho8520
@marvinho8520 4 жыл бұрын
I saw the problem from the start, problem is, it doesn't take Glock mags. Love the channel.
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 3 жыл бұрын
No the problem is the Glock doesn’t take MP18 magazines...
@TheRealColBosch
@TheRealColBosch 4 жыл бұрын
For those speculating on what the ",I" stands for, here's some gasoline to throw on the fire: the improved version of the M.P. 18,I - with a stick magazine - was named the "M.P. 28,II."
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 4 жыл бұрын
Which does have a full rear sight... but also a stick mag...
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 4 жыл бұрын
@@Candrsenal And of course, there never was an MP 28,I...
@adrian_zombturtle148
@adrian_zombturtle148 4 жыл бұрын
And then the mp41 only used the wooden body and had the upper of an mp40
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 4 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal : I am german. A longer time ago in a german arms magazin there was an article about the MP 18. The authors of this article had to admit, that they do not know, what the ,I' means. They thought, it has something to do with the document file system of the german military administration.
@uwesca6263
@uwesca6263 2 жыл бұрын
@@brittakriep2938 i am a german gunsmith who learned in Suhl. When it comes to marking our weapons there are a lot Information you have to stamp on. And one thing is the date of manufacturing which can also be coded with letters. A= 0, B = 1, C = 2, D = 3, E = 4, F = 5, G = 6, H = 7, *I = 8, K = 9 It could be that it was simply a code to say that this is the 1918 version and not the 1919 one. *Note that you would mean the letter "I" but stamp the letter "J" . Nowadays you would stamp the last two digits of the year and the month in either numbers or letters. But it could be that 100 years ago it was handled different or that it was a change for the manufacturer only so they have an easy overview themself.
@cannonfodder4376
@cannonfodder4376 4 жыл бұрын
46:00 Recovered footage of GPK instructing Hugo Schmeisser to use the snail drum mag for MP-18.
@crankysports
@crankysports 4 жыл бұрын
epic.
@BTNMNKI
@BTNMNKI 4 жыл бұрын
"Hugo sad" flat out broke me 😄
@tenofprime
@tenofprime 4 жыл бұрын
I always wonder how many designers regardless of industry have that happen. You make a great design so perfect for the role and then your boss tells you it needs something added that messes it up and all you can do is hang your head.
@crankygunreviews
@crankygunreviews 4 жыл бұрын
tenofprime I bet it happens a lot. Actually, I know it does.
@noth606
@noth606 4 жыл бұрын
tenofprime I'm in software development and that kind of stuff happens a lot. You get asked to develop a solution to do something specific. You develop it perfectly to do that, and the manager then casually adds "oh, also btw please add functionality to do this completely unrelated other thing", which would have mandated a completely different approach from the start to do well, but you can't start again or do a separate thing anymore due to delivery times, hours allocated etc - so the end result sucks.
@les3449
@les3449 3 жыл бұрын
I had an uncle (by marriage) whose father was an infantry sergeant in WW1 and he said that in one battle he and his men were ordered to advance on the Germans just behind the artillery walking barrage. They HAD to walk at a designated pace or get hit by their own artillery. THAT was discipline my friends, discipline.
@cantsneedgaming4591
@cantsneedgaming4591 Жыл бұрын
They would do what's called a creeping barrage where the shelling would cover the infantry as they advanced I'm guessing he was told to do that lol
@abstractapproach634
@abstractapproach634 Жыл бұрын
Good marriage advice, creep in, arterilly out in front, flank the rear if she let's you
@les3449
@les3449 Жыл бұрын
@@abstractapproach634 hahahaha.
@user-kt8yp5ho2y
@user-kt8yp5ho2y 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! The legendary and mother of the all smg has a rise!!!!
@Blackstarr223
@Blackstarr223 4 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, do you own any 32 french longue?
@wingracer1614
@wingracer1614 4 жыл бұрын
@cody sonnet Because Gun Jesus requires an offering.
@MachoMadness69420
@MachoMadness69420 4 жыл бұрын
Britain: “Lol, SMGs are pointless xD”. Also Britain: designs probably the simplest SMG of all time, makes a gazillion of them and drops them all over Europe.
@DiggingForFacts
@DiggingForFacts 4 жыл бұрын
Or in slightly different wording. Britain: "Lol, SMGs are pointless xD". Also Britain, at Versailles: "We don't want their army to have ANY of these...and any planes...and any tanks! Lol all them's so pointless xD".
@TheOnlyMasterChef
@TheOnlyMasterChef 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the third volume of the series "the krauts are at it again? Blasted, better copy the MP28!"
@eutenhomuitosnomes5485
@eutenhomuitosnomes5485 4 жыл бұрын
They pretty much copied the MP28 and stripped it down to bare minimum parts, so yeah they did not care much for smg designs.
@KonradSeverinHilstad
@KonradSeverinHilstad 4 жыл бұрын
A good reason to hate the brits. >lol, pistolguns are pointless. >disarm Germany at Versailles, "no smgs for you, Jerry old chap" >get massacred 20 years later because, surprise, the Germans are back! And they actually put effort into developing their military, quel shock ! >Quickly copy their smg-design from the last war, maybe simplify that. >Then build craptons of them to the point that your cheap copy becomes what people think about when they hear "submachine gun".
@Strawberry92fs
@Strawberry92fs 4 жыл бұрын
@@KonradSeverinHilstad I never really considered it, but when I think "submachine gun" I don't think of any gun in particular, certainly not the sten, but I do think of an open-bolt simple blow-back tube receiver gun. But no specific model.
@ultrablue2
@ultrablue2 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a comparison between the MP18.I and the original Thompson sub machine gun with the 50rd drum. Both weapons were designed to be “trench brooms”; it would be very interesting to recreate a WWI trench and incorporate it into the test.
@Candyrock87
@Candyrock87 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the "Kugelspritz" nickname, in swedish it translates to "Kulspruta" which is still to this day the swedish military nomenclature for machinegun.
@ldkbudda4176
@ldkbudda4176 3 жыл бұрын
Пулемёт
@thesayxx
@thesayxx 4 жыл бұрын
"But does it use Luger magazines?" Yes Hans! It does!
@JimEXP_
@JimEXP_ 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Primer episode! Dialogue between Othais and Mae is classic!
@generalwaste2062
@generalwaste2062 4 жыл бұрын
I love how happy may looks after shooting the cool guns in this show. I can't understand why it took the poms until dunkirk to realise how good SMGs are.
@dragonsword7370
@dragonsword7370 4 жыл бұрын
Those were Gangster Guns. No, self respecting soldier would Never sully the kings own with a basterds weapon... oh shite, we actually Really Need those gangster guns Now!
@snowflakemelter1172
@snowflakemelter1172 4 жыл бұрын
@cody sonnet moron.
@fuckinantipope5511
@fuckinantipope5511 3 жыл бұрын
@cody sonnet neither world war was started by the brits. They just were part of them quite early
@kevfit4333
@kevfit4333 Жыл бұрын
The British army was always tough on what they perceived as ammo wastage. That's why there was a cutoff built into the SMLE. I don't believe any other nation had such a feature built into a rifle.
@jerrywesterfield5636
@jerrywesterfield5636 10 ай бұрын
1903 Springfield had a magazine cutoff, not sure about Krag or 1917 Enfield.
@mushroomsamba82
@mushroomsamba82 4 жыл бұрын
Fastest "War were declared" east of the Mississippi
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReptilianLepton That'll be a fast declaration and an even faster capitulation. Militia-folk know a lot of things - lot of useful things - but waging a successful insurgency ain't one of them. The only way to thoroughly study asymmetrical and irregular warfare means also eventually studying Marxist-Leninist insurgencies and revolutionary theory - which I'm willing to be most of them will avoid like they'll catch the pinko from just touching the material.
@M04R92
@M04R92 4 жыл бұрын
1:11:45 I think the german nomenclature is pretty clear: Rifle caliber -> Maschinengewehr = machine rifle Pistol calibre -> Maschinenpistole = machine pistol
@nirfz
@nirfz 4 жыл бұрын
And a Maschinenkarabiner would need to fire rifle rounds, as a Karabiner is a short(end) rifle.
@Jack-Hands
@Jack-Hands 4 жыл бұрын
In quite a lot of languages smg's are referred as "machine pistols". To be honest, i think the term "machine pistol" is used even more around the world than variations of "sub machine gun".
@jpegwithallthecrust2649
@jpegwithallthecrust2649 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this specific gun to be featured for a damn long time, and I'm very happy to say it's better than I could have ever imagined. 18/18 this gun makes me nut
@arcrid8440
@arcrid8440 4 жыл бұрын
“Hugo sad.”
@JesperJuulKeller
@JesperJuulKeller 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the "I" stands for "Infanterie"?
@durhamdavesbg4948
@durhamdavesbg4948 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly, given the lineage reaching back into air and artillery issued weapons.
@FireflyActual
@FireflyActual 4 жыл бұрын
@@durhamdavesbg4948 Perhaps, but Hugo Schmeisser's second gun, the MP 28, carried the "II" suffix.
@durhamdavesbg4948
@durhamdavesbg4948 4 жыл бұрын
@@FireflyActual Oh, thanks for that little note, so more likely one more first for the MP18.
@FireflyActual
@FireflyActual 4 жыл бұрын
​@@durhamdavesbg4948 Possibly. No one knows for sure what the "I" in "MP 18, I" stands for, but my guess is that it simply signifies that it;s Hugo Schmeisser's first submachine design (the MP 28, II being the second model and the prototype MP36, III ending up as the third, one that ended up being combined with the Erma EMP 36 to form the MP38).
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 4 жыл бұрын
Jesper Juul Keller : I am a german man, only using my girlfriends account. A longer time ago i read an article about the MP 18 in a german arms magazine. The authors of this artcle had to admit, that they did not know what the ,I' means. They thought, it has something to do with the document filing system of the german military administration. The documents necessary for this new weapon had been ,stored' under administration point ,I' because this new weapon was given to soldiers without using the traditional adoption system.
@jameslawrence2446
@jameslawrence2446 Жыл бұрын
A few points: * The MP 18,I was always intended to feed from a Trommelmagazin from the beginning. The idea to utilize box magazines didn't come until the MP 18,III (see below). * The ",I" suffix is indeed a numeral, there were four variants developed (MP 18,I ,II ,III & ,IV) for the Kriegsministerium. The latter two fed from Mauser box magazines and showed great promise but were not adopted before the end of the war. * The first guns to reach the front were delivered for field trials to the 119 Infanterie-Division in July 1918 and first saw combat at Amiens in August. No guns were delivered in time for the Spring Offensive despite many sources claiming this. A full rollout did not commence until October. * There is, to my knowledge, no documentary evidence that the MP 18,I was ever banned by the terms of the Treaty of Versailles. It never comes up in the regulation tables in the treaty itself, and bulletins issued by the Reichswehr High Command during the several months after the treaty came into effect confirm that it was still in active issue for a while until being retired later on, along with the Lange Pistole (which itself was not banned either). I haven't been able to find any contemporary reference to its supposed illegality in military service. Unless some concrete evidence of this claim can be found, I'm inclined to believe it's just a myth. * The Italian OVP was in service before the MP 18,I but was issued predominantly as a PDW for aviators, not an infantry weapon. Only 500 were delivered. * The Beretta gun you refer to was the Revelli-Beretta model which was indeed a conversion of the Villar Perosa but was not an SMG as it was semi-automatic only. It was also not adopted until September 1918, a few months after the MP 18,I, and less than 2,000 were delivered before the end of the war. * RE production, French reports indicate that a total of 50,000 guns were made during the war (look out for a future issue of Armax for confirmation of this). However the vast majority of these never left the factory, as the Kriegsministerium reported only 17,000 delivered by October 1918. No production took place after 1919 as the Bergmann factory closed that year.
@michaelanderson9140
@michaelanderson9140 5 ай бұрын
sources?
@jameslawrence2446
@jameslawrence2446 5 ай бұрын
@@michaelanderson9140 You can find information on these points here: Deutsches Maschinengewehre: Entwicklung, Taktik, & Einsatz von 1892 - 1918 (Frank Buchholz & Thomas Brüggen) Bergmann MP 18,I - the "first" submachine gun (firearms.96.lt) Hugo Schmeisser's Bergmann Sub-machine Guns (Hans-Christian Vortisch)
@jeffhoward9186
@jeffhoward9186 2 жыл бұрын
Great show as always. Thanks to all that allowed the MP-18 to come alive and for its story to be told and shared.
@kimberlylewis5820
@kimberlylewis5820 4 жыл бұрын
The episode we have all been waiting for. Thank you!
@MrLulzbot
@MrLulzbot 4 жыл бұрын
Hugo sad t-shirt or patch when?
@john88benson
@john88benson 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like all my favorite channels are rolling out the extra special good stuff for Crimbo. Happy holidays!
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 4 жыл бұрын
The pistol grip on the L2A3 stabilises the side magazine by converting the twist from the offset magazine into the palm of the right hand and the barrel shroud does not get too hot for a left hand fore grip. Holding magazine will run the real risk of it engaging with the magazine release, which is not a good thing in action, but also bends a stick magazine and loads the feed lips which are the most vulnerable necessary part. As does opening bottle with them......
@cynicalmedic252
@cynicalmedic252 4 жыл бұрын
1:21 in "War were declared" well that escalated quickly.
@OrangeAmped
@OrangeAmped 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful episode on one of the most iconic and historically significant firearms. Well done!
@MrWarwick15
@MrWarwick15 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Othais! My thanks to you and Mae. Best wishes to you all from an Englishman living in France. Rich.
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 4 жыл бұрын
Love it. The bolt comes out and I go STEN then the Stirling which I carried as a weapon. Great stuff Othais and Mae :-)
@StrangelyBrownNo1
@StrangelyBrownNo1 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. Thanks so much for putting such quality content out there.
@phann860
@phann860 Жыл бұрын
Excellent programme again.
@grrg1963
@grrg1963 4 жыл бұрын
Best ep ever! Animation was incredible.
@owenmerrick2377
@owenmerrick2377 4 жыл бұрын
Good. Very.....good. Even with a wobbly magazine, feed is good; a testament to Mark's tenacity. Well done, everyone!
@danmenes3143
@danmenes3143 4 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that it appears to be a "constant recoil" design. The footage of Mae's shooting shows that the bolt never hits the back of the receiver. That probably improves the recoil considerably. Interesting, because constant recoil is supposed to be the hot new thing in light machine guns.
@gratefulguy4130
@gratefulguy4130 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing is new under the sun
@BR4INlessBRI4N
@BR4INlessBRI4N 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding designation: In German there are the words "Maschinengewehr" and "Maschinenpistole" meaning machine-rifle and -pistol. There isnt a wide used word that includes both like the English word "Machinegun". Of course we have our versions of "automatic weapon" and words like that but "Maschinengewehr" and "Maschinenpistole" are the ones that are mainly used when talking about full auto small arms.
@piotrmroz7213
@piotrmroz7213 4 жыл бұрын
Another great material about the WW1 guns.🤩 Thanks for it💕
@dragonsword7370
@dragonsword7370 4 жыл бұрын
Best winter holiday gift guys thankyou!
@crankysports
@crankysports 4 жыл бұрын
Ehrmagherd this is one of my top three for sure. Maybe top 5. OK, maybe top 114 of your 114 that you have covered. I love the work you all are doing for history. The MP18 in my hands, with a 1911 on my hip, and a trench gun on my back, would be a trifecta of awesome WW1 firearms!
@spyrosg3172
@spyrosg3172 4 жыл бұрын
You absolutely MUST release a 'Hugo is Sad' T-shirt!
@russellflemister393
@russellflemister393 4 жыл бұрын
the interaction about the mag was so good i was imagining it in german in my head i laughed so hard please do more episodes i love them
@88porpoise
@88porpoise 3 жыл бұрын
On the name of it, machine carbine is exactly what the British called them through WWII and into the cold war. And that idea hangs around as "pistol caliber carbine". But "submachine gun" sounded cool and Thompson was good at marketing so that is what we got.
@Ripper-jx7sl
@Ripper-jx7sl 4 жыл бұрын
I think we need to keep in mind the tactics this weapon was designed to function best in... Shock-troops, sudden massed-fire (imagine a 3-gun squad of these to mass fire on an objective), disrupting enemy tactics, force the enemy to stop firing and seek cover, deny areas of the battle space... It helps to shape the German tactics of WW2, basing platoons and tactics around the use of machine guns, both heavy guns and individual weapons. Had they more time, I would guess we would have seen an improved balanced version and dedicated magazines and better ergonomics. Revolutionary. Thanks for a great channel!!! P.S. I LOVE to see how much Mae enjoys shooting each weapon. :) Wish I had your job...
@30calPartridge
@30calPartridge 4 жыл бұрын
That first rewind caught me off guard and I thought my phone spazzed out haha
@wyatttyson7737
@wyatttyson7737 4 жыл бұрын
I've certainly seen at least one photo of a German soldier gripping it by the magwell. Two soldiers next to each other, in fact. But they were kneeling with their left legs forward and their left elbows on their left knees. I think it had a label that said that was how you were supposed to fire if, and only if, you were kneeling. Also now that I think about it there is a 50% chance they were police officers. But I have no idea how I would go about finding that photo again anyway, so take that with a large grain of salt.
@gyrene_asea4133
@gyrene_asea4133 4 жыл бұрын
Video, @ 38:19 right after Othias lists that post-Versailles German Police were authorized to have the MP18. Still photo of uniformed shooter supporting weapon using the magwell.
@trekaddict
@trekaddict 4 жыл бұрын
We still call it a Maschinenpistole. Hence the MP5 being the MP5.
@milesjenkins1405
@milesjenkins1405 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Team. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
@stevekunde1117
@stevekunde1117 4 жыл бұрын
That looked like it was a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing 👍
@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM
@SPAZTICCYTOPLASM 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Othias, Very cool!
@tomalexander4327
@tomalexander4327 4 жыл бұрын
Great editing in this video. 🎞️🎬
@kevlarandchrome
@kevlarandchrome 4 жыл бұрын
Mae usually looks happy at the end of the shooting segment, but she looked positively giddy at the end of this one, I'd say that's a pretty ringing endorsement. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you at C&Rsenal!
@JonManProductions
@JonManProductions 4 жыл бұрын
It must be frigging christmas when all of my favorite content creators upload all in the same week. XD
@MasterOfHelium
@MasterOfHelium 4 жыл бұрын
That episode was a blast indeed! Thanks to vbbsmyt that now I actually understood how that drum magazine worked! Also, the rewinding gimmick to switch to different POV during shooting segments is a nice touch!
@IndianaJoneFan24
@IndianaJoneFan24 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one
@ChaosPootato
@ChaosPootato 4 жыл бұрын
Great. Thanks for all your work.
@jmjedi923
@jmjedi923 8 ай бұрын
if i could own of these, i would in a heartbeat. everything about them is so cool!
@erikgranqvist3680
@erikgranqvist3680 4 жыл бұрын
In Sweden, those kind of weapons are called "kulsprutepistol". It litterarly means bullet spray pistol. A machinegun is "kulspruta" = bullet sprayer.
@parkercushingable
@parkercushingable 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my God, the impromptu Hugo role play was brilliant!!
@ThePlebicide
@ThePlebicide 4 жыл бұрын
Hugo Sad! best C&Rsenal ever. More dramatic re-enactments please.
@ronaldcarrier6620
@ronaldcarrier6620 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm not a gangster" lol.
@Shadow0fd3ath24
@Shadow0fd3ath24 4 жыл бұрын
i just wanted to see how the rounds transition from the drum up the angle and into the feed tower so smoothly to actually work, that alone was worth the watch...that Mae as Hugo bit was great too
@pilgrimm23
@pilgrimm23 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the data Othias. Also, if there is one shooter who's opinion I respect it is Mae. She has had hands on with more weapons then anyone other then Ian... another well done episode.
@cookingonthecheapcheap6921
@cookingonthecheapcheap6921 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as she lifted it up with the second magazine, it was "Hell yeah, full auto baby!". Great video, it's soo easy to forget this isn't a WW2 weapon.
@Bunny-zn7ke
@Bunny-zn7ke 3 жыл бұрын
I mean you can tell the difference, mp28 had stick mag and mp18 had also stick mag in the early of war but after few years they made a snail drum
@fuckinantipope5511
@fuckinantipope5511 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bunny-zn7ke the MP18 had a drum mag from the start. It never used a stick mag during the war
@Bunny-zn7ke
@Bunny-zn7ke 2 жыл бұрын
@@fuckinantipope5511 what i meant to say is, that they used em as backup
@fuckinantipope5511
@fuckinantipope5511 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bunny-zn7ke no they didn't? The MP18 did not have stick mags. They also didn't use the Lugers 8 round mag
@Bunny-zn7ke
@Bunny-zn7ke 2 жыл бұрын
@@fuckinantipope5511 it can use 9mm luger mag, but obv not all of them did as it was rare sight. But i have read somewhere that some used it as a backup, will try to find the source
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 4 жыл бұрын
"So if you're gonna be stuck with it, you might as well be stuck with _a lot_ of it." Words to live by. :)
@mr.muffindan.m3367
@mr.muffindan.m3367 3 жыл бұрын
day 8 of binge watching this series.
@jamestarbet9608
@jamestarbet9608 4 жыл бұрын
Two missed opportunities here Othias. 1. Should have been episode 118 (Mk.I of MP18) 2. Really missed opportunity to say 'Ho Ho Ho! Now I have a Machine Gun!' :) Still fantastic as always. BTW- I have worn my C&Rsenal shirts for all of my college exams, particularly Patented Plastic & Pokey, and got straight A's. Thanks for pointing the way to knowledge!
@Ni999
@Ni999 4 жыл бұрын
You've renamed the gun and misquoted the movie. Your heart's in the right place but you have to study harder. 😉
@TitusCastiglione1503
@TitusCastiglione1503 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve waited so long for this episode
@garypack1709
@garypack1709 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this one Good job
@stuffedmannequin
@stuffedmannequin 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing that you not only got your hands on one of these things, but actually got to shoot it
@thetomatoking9714
@thetomatoking9714 4 жыл бұрын
He's done it, the absolute madman has done it.
@cartridgegram
@cartridgegram 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode
@andik.4235
@andik.4235 4 жыл бұрын
A simple THANK YOU from me. You brought the first SMG, which saw actually service, to the table. Yeah, it had it`s corks, but man is this thing impressive for the first attempt to the subject. And you are not shy to present it at was it is.
@logitimate
@logitimate 4 жыл бұрын
*quirks
@1jtolvey
@1jtolvey 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO -- MAE !!!
@pierref.1294
@pierref.1294 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to see the Villar Perosa in this show ;) . You guys rules, sheers from France !
@me3333
@me3333 4 жыл бұрын
War Were Declared so fast I nearly spit my popcorn out all over the monitor!
@coltm4a186
@coltm4a186 4 жыл бұрын
No freakin way! This is incredible!
@StrimClocks
@StrimClocks 3 жыл бұрын
I was spooked by the video rewinding while shooting. I was not expecting that.
@charlesperry1051
@charlesperry1051 4 жыл бұрын
The look on May's face after the mag dump is priceless!!!
@richardsveum8452
@richardsveum8452 4 жыл бұрын
Damn Mae you are getting good at this stuff. Well done.
@planescaped
@planescaped 4 жыл бұрын
Watching a second time, it just hit me how dark the footage at 6:07 is. They ain't reenacting for the news reels...
@jairofilho6018
@jairofilho6018 4 жыл бұрын
I love to see how happy May always gets when talking and specially shooting. XD
@TomKeown
@TomKeown 4 жыл бұрын
The best of all these videos is the huge smile on Mae's face after a mag dump! \m/
@planpitz4190
@planpitz4190 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! You have created the first in depth yet entertaining Gun-Show !Keep on the very good work. Greetings from Germany. PS: Kugelspritze = Bullet sprayer. "Hugo sad"= LOL
@chefemilj
@chefemilj 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the history
@mikhailryzhov9419
@mikhailryzhov9419 Жыл бұрын
I did not know how much I needed Mae Schmeisser.
@lukejolley8354
@lukejolley8354 4 жыл бұрын
May is awesome! Well done
@tomdixon7264
@tomdixon7264 4 жыл бұрын
Up to the usual high standard. Marvelously done.
@anonymoususer4937
@anonymoususer4937 4 жыл бұрын
Dang, Mae hit each of those targets multiple times during her full auto sweep. That's an effective little weapon!
@chekovsgunman
@chekovsgunman 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this episode since we got a peek at it over on Anvil!
@ChugxLife
@ChugxLife 4 жыл бұрын
I just started playing BF1 again, then this vid uploaded. Awesome.
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