Hobby Cheating 221 - How to Create a Gap Filling Slurry

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Vince Venturella

Vince Venturella

4 жыл бұрын

In this Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through a quick method of making an awesome gap filling slurry out of old sprues and plastic glue. Hope you enjoy.
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@RowanPartridge
@RowanPartridge Жыл бұрын
60 years modelling and a no-seams fanatic, and I never knew this trick! Thank you, V.
@iceaxeminiatures7694
@iceaxeminiatures7694 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using sprue goo for a while; it worked really well on my warscryer citadel. A couple suggestions though: 1. Why fuss over finding the right bottle and cap to use, when you can just drop the sprue into a half-empty bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin? It's designed to hold plastic cement, so there should be no worries about it melting the cap or anything like that, plus it comes with a built in applicator in the cap. 2. I'd also suggest throwing in a bit of coloured sprue from a Gundam model if you have it; this adds a little colour to your slurry which makes it easier to see what's slurry and what's plastic when you are filing and sanding it back down.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent tips all around. :)
@vitaemecha
@vitaemecha 3 жыл бұрын
I just got back into the hobby after about 15 years off due to family commitments, largely due to finding your channel. I have been binging your videos whilst 'working from home'. I have learned more in the last 2 weeks than I did in about 10 years painting when I was younger. Thanks a lot!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Always happy to help. :)
@steclark598
@steclark598 4 жыл бұрын
I call it "Sprue-Goo".
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I just wasn't sure I wanted Goo in the title of the video. :)
@willmyers6537
@willmyers6537 4 жыл бұрын
Brother, I just love it. The idea, tips, warnings, and foremost presentation. Comedy is pretty solid too. You’re just a natural. This o’house of the hobby world. Thanks for help ✌🏼
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, I really appreciate it. :)
@lunahula
@lunahula 4 жыл бұрын
So you shouldn't have to worry about plastics around the Tamiya Thin or Acetone if they are urethane based. It's why the Tamiya thin cap is plastic and the little plastic brush inside of it don't melt. Same for acetone bottles that are plastic. I typically have 3 Bottles of Tamiya Thin - 1. Clean Bottle for adhesive use 2. Dirty bottle with some plastic in, but not much that I use for smoothing down irredularities in plastic caused by scraping or sanding on areas too small to sand and polish properly. 3. A Bottle as you see here that is basically a liquid plastic filler. Because Tamiya thin is primarily just acetone with like some malic acid in it that gives it that familiar sweet smell. You can thin your bottle of plastic slurry with more tamiya thin or acetone if you feel it is getting too thick or you have left it open to work on something for too long and it is drying out.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, I had no idea on the difference there, that is really good to know and I like the split you have of the three bottles.
@lunahula
@lunahula 4 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Something of a perfectionist and when there wasn't a practical way to fix details or smooth areas that got damaged I found the really thin plastic glues could just smooth those areas out if you applied it sparingly and gently. Just like you would when glazing. However when you do this, you sort of pick up some of the plastic in the brush and transplant it back into your bottle, so over time the bottle becomes contaminated. A bit less 'hot' as scale modelers would say, but that is actually a bonus for smoothing out the plastic, as it is less likely to burn too much, it will stay smoother like it did when you filled the sides of steam tank. So if you want to make a number 2 bottle from scratch a good way is to actually take a sprue and a blade and just scrape off plastic from the sprue into little curly shavings and put pinches of it in to dilute the glue. The shavings are so much thinner plastic that they melt into the pot very quickly. But something scale modelers do as well is apply tamiya thin onto a flat area wet, then while the area is still quite hot and the glue has had its chance to melt the top layer of plastic, come in with various tools like an old stiff brush or sculpting tools to bash up the area and essentially make it look more worn and lived. If you aren't happy with the result or want to go again, just let it cure, then fix mistakes with your filler bottle and then go again. You can even apply it to smaller areas and work it with a stiff older brush and create more textured 'rusty' areas that when you paint and weather normally will really be textured. Once everything is cured as well you can still go back and polish/sand to get a smoother result of your work. So you can give tanks that cast metal appearance.
@NarcolepticLTD
@NarcolepticLTD 4 жыл бұрын
Liquid Mess! My favorite gap filler - glad you finally got around to making a video on this stuff :) I usually use scrap plasticard for this, but I like to have the difference in color to show the material I added when sanding/filing.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
That's a cool idea, I didn't think about the color difference. I always have scrap plasticard, I'll give that a try.
@aloysiusryan5239
@aloysiusryan5239 Жыл бұрын
Totally love this. You learn something new everyday thanks
@bfdzvalable
@bfdzvalable Жыл бұрын
The genius is in its simplicity. Way to use that big hominoid brain. Bravo!! 👏👏👏👏👏
@aerlands100
@aerlands100 3 жыл бұрын
After hearing about Tom's conversion to sprue goo on Warhammer Weekly, I realized it was time for me to get over my own intertia keeping me back from finally trying it. I was also inspired by a Slaanesh-ly excessive amount of gaps and cracks in some Nurgle models I'm working on... :P Thanks for the tutorial!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Always happy to help.
@grozwald
@grozwald 4 жыл бұрын
Been looking for a simple tutorial on this. Thanks Vince!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
@stig78leic
@stig78leic 4 жыл бұрын
Vince, you star! I was just looking for a video about this, excellent timing!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
@indianascott9098
@indianascott9098 4 жыл бұрын
Well done, Vince! Looking forward to trying it out.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, happy to help out as always. :)
@auhjo8406
@auhjo8406 4 жыл бұрын
The background music in this video is very mystic and gave me the mental image of you making a potion with this stuff
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
The magic potions for insta-painting are an upcoming video.
@neabezshen3197
@neabezshen3197 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks Vince. I now have a use for my collection of sprue aside from just testing colors schemes
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
@Homie1Kenobie
@Homie1Kenobie 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool... I really appreciate all you're work. Thank you
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
@RapidVisionLoss
@RapidVisionLoss 4 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this! Thanks for sharing.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
@elcasey
@elcasey 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using this exact mix of Tamiya Extra Thin and cut up sprues for years now. Works absolute wonders, especially if you do a lot of converting or kitbashing with plasticard.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's my Kitbash go to.
@johnkelley9877
@johnkelley9877 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this great technique!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Always happy to help. :)
@bruceyoung9692
@bruceyoung9692 4 жыл бұрын
@Vince Venturella Once again you deliver the goods! HS I never thought about this. I wish I'd have saved some of the sprue from my last commission to do this with.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
@adamfox1669
@adamfox1669 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vince! Great tips- as usual Hope your Christmas holiday was good
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
My christmas was great, thank you and happy this video was helpful. :)
@BEELZEBRO666
@BEELZEBRO666 4 жыл бұрын
Cool tip ! Even cooler kitbash!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it was fun for sure. :)
@JHB141
@JHB141 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning the vortex mixer! I got one awhile back and I am always trying to explain to folks what it does for us in the hobby. Now I can just direct them here!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really love it, it's wonderful to see how easily and thoroughly it mixes everything.
@jesusbuddhaman
@jesusbuddhaman Жыл бұрын
@Vince - I use butyl acetate and acetone in a 50-50 mix to make my plastic cement. It's the same formula as Tamiya extra thin. I followed your advice and made my sprue goo using this mix.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@vampider
@vampider 4 жыл бұрын
I made some of this and it is amazing. I did get some glue string? That I didn't notice and for the first time in a long time I got fingerprints on my kit. But other than that this stuff is amazing. I labeled mine adhesive-X. Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, you have to careful about those strings, they can happen for sure, always be careful and just trim them away with either a knife or if they are very thin, you an burn them away with a lighter real quick.
@ChristopherBrunsdon
@ChristopherBrunsdon 4 жыл бұрын
Really great. I've got a near-empty bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin and now I've got a use for the bottle and remaining cement. I'm half tempted to delegate the brush cap from the normal Tamiya Cement to the slurry.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
oh yeah, you can totally do that, if it's already being dedicated to that, then you are good.
@SwashBuccaneer
@SwashBuccaneer 4 жыл бұрын
You are the mad scientist of hobbying ;)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Soon I will be hooking up lightning to my miniatures and then we will really have something. :)
@BSJDynasty
@BSJDynasty Жыл бұрын
I just made my first slurry and am currently waiting for it to dissolve, great tutorial as always! I thought about adding a couple of drops of ink to stain it to be able to better tell it apart from the plastic. Hoping that'll help prevent that stuff from spilling over etc.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
In general, I will say that the goo is generally pretty recognizable, but a drop of ink I don't think would change the mix in any detrimental way.
@Warbringer95
@Warbringer95 3 жыл бұрын
Like a polaroid picture. Gold.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Shake it. ;)
@sadnessinside123
@sadnessinside123 4 жыл бұрын
A great one for the to box. Thank you
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
@dmssp1988
@dmssp1988 4 жыл бұрын
what is the "life expectancy" of the slurry inside the glass jar with the lid on? for how long is it usable in different sessions ? Great video as usual
@lunahula
@lunahula 4 жыл бұрын
It will keep for years as long as the lid is kept on as tight as you would for glue normally. Though if you are using it frequently you would need to add more Tamiya Thin or acetone to it, to sort of thin it back out if you find it is getting a bit too thick.
@NarcolepticLTD
@NarcolepticLTD 4 жыл бұрын
I made my first bottle of this stuff about 2.5 years ago, and then ended up taking a career path that kept me away from the 'house' for 2 years - that same bottle is still ready to rock. as Sock Badger states, if the top is open frequently you'll want to add more solvent as it will evaporate. You can also play around with different consistencies.
@lunahula
@lunahula 4 жыл бұрын
@@NarcolepticLTD Yeah you can fill larger gaps if you make a thicker consistency mix with more plastic runners/frames/sprues into the mix. Though you will need to use a sculpting tool or dental spatula to apply it, as it will be too thick for the brush at this point. You can also use this to reinforce the back parts of plastic tanks you plan on chiseling detail into, but fear cutting right through. Combine it with plasticard for an easier time.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, as they mention, it's basically good for a very long time, every so often you need to refresh, but it will last a very, very long time.
@skippen
@skippen 3 жыл бұрын
Huh, despite have a tight seal, mine turned solid fairly quickly.
@LoneEagle2061
@LoneEagle2061 4 жыл бұрын
I know this as sprue-goo. For my own I make it in the poly bottle (a bottle I've used a lot of the glue out of - just add sprue), this has the advantage that you know the plastics involved are impervious to the poly - it also gives you the cap-brush for application. As a note, if in your dry-fit, you see an area you're concerned about gaps or seamlines in; you can use sprue-goo as the adhesive and the excess will squige out of the joint in a very satisfying manner.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great point, I really should have mentioned just using it as a supplementary glue, excellent call for sure.
@roshi8304
@roshi8304 3 жыл бұрын
OMG what a geat tip! Can't wait to try this out!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help. :)
@roshi8304
@roshi8304 3 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Been using it for about 2 months now.. This is one of the greatest tip ever.. Thank you for making the building / assembly of models so much faster and easier. You're the best!
@rossomachin
@rossomachin 4 жыл бұрын
Useful as always!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
@RedViking2020
@RedViking2020 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!!! Thanks buddy,thats awesome and really well explained all bases covered. Im off to the 'kitchen.' Thats a video ill drop on everyone who meets the 'filler monster!!!'
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help. :)
@mikebreazeale2563
@mikebreazeale2563 4 жыл бұрын
The old sprue glue trick...been using it for years. Love it! I use an Tamiya bottle that is almost gone and use the brush that is in the bottle. Works great! I make mine a little thicker and use it like a putty. Cool video...
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, yeah, this is a great one for sure, it just makes things so easy to fill small gaps.
@abelpaoli6836
@abelpaoli6836 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and Happy Holidays, Vince! I remember learning this trick back in the late '70s early 80's, from if I remember correctly, one of Shep Paine's books. It's helped me throughout the decades, thanks for resurrecting it.
@AoSCoach
@AoSCoach 4 жыл бұрын
Damn this is a great hobby cheating video. You’re a mad scientist
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, happy to assist as always. :)
@acterene1
@acterene1 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that was a very cool tip! Thanks!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@baz3087
@baz3087 3 жыл бұрын
This was really useful. I did a bit of research after watching this and you should be able to use Tamiya Airbrush Cleaner as well which is probably cheaper. The ingredients in Tamiya Extra Thin is 50% n-Butyl Acetate and 50% Acetone. (the quick setting version has different ingredients). The ingredients in Tamiya Airbrush Cleaner is 49% n-Butyl Acetate and 51% Acetone. Other brands of airbrush thinner could have very different ingredients, like isopropyl alcohol, so be careful to check what ingredients are used. The Citadel and Revell liquid plastic glues are 100% n-Butyl Acetate. (At least I can now make my own Tamiya extra thin as I can get hold of the Revell stuff easily and acetone is easy to get as well.) It would be interesting to see if using either 100% acetone or 100% butyl acetate had similar effects. They are both solvents so should work to a certain extent, maybe differences in how quick the sprue dissolves, viscosity of the slurry and drying times?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff, thank you!
@TheRonin2120
@TheRonin2120 3 жыл бұрын
Been using this for awhile now. I've got my gloop in an old Tamiya thin cement bottle. No need to find a cap or a brush. Its already there. You can also use this on an area that got oversanded. Use it like Bondo on a vehicle body. Just wipe a little on the area and then come back and lightly blend it in. Also as far as big gaps. It depends you can fill them with this. But its a long process as in you need to build up layers of to fill out the gap. In the end this is far cheaper and easier to use then putty.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed, this is my absolute go-to.
@kamilkordas7103
@kamilkordas7103 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip, thank you!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@satlypepsi
@satlypepsi Жыл бұрын
that extra thin glue i accually never bought intentionally though i like using it. i bought a opened model from a thrift store and figured it would use it for parts and there was that glue, paint thinner, black enamel paint and several brushes. i felt like i got a glipse into another modelers building set up
@georgesoreass3049
@georgesoreass3049 3 жыл бұрын
Ive seen alot in the mini world. This was cool. This earned you a sub from a great painter
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very happy to help. :)
@kellyaudia
@kellyaudia 4 жыл бұрын
Love it, Vince. Keep them coming!What all do you use your Payne’s gray DR inks for? Black highlight? Is that too strong? Just curious.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
All over the place. Part of what I do with my black highlight, it's a step (stay tuned, you'll see in a few weeks). I also use it a deep cold shadow, an environmental filter shadow through the airbrush, dark lines, eye dots, all sorts of things. It's great.
@Vapourwear
@Vapourwear 2 жыл бұрын
Just my (not-so) pro tip. I find the brush that comes with the tamiya extra thin is perfect for applying this stuff.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I've actually moved to that as well. :)
@DanteMac26
@DanteMac26 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince, new subscriber and first time poster here! I came to miniature painting from the scale model painting community, and have really enjoyed your videos! As a scale modeler I always felt that the Tamiya glues were decent, but nowhere near as good as Plastruct Plastic Weld or even Plastruct Bondene. Bondene glues like to like, ie. styrene to styrene, where as the Weld is all to all. So, of course, now I really want to try making this slurry with the Weld! But, I have questions: - Have you ever used Plastruct to make a slurry? - Have you ever used a slurry made from GW(?) plastic on another type of plastic? - Have you tried other plastics, such as styrene? - Can you combine different plastics, such as GW + styrene = ? - Can you use a kicker, or accelerator on it? - Have you tried using it with baking soda or baby powder? Whew, I think that's it! Thanks a lot for all you do, and you can blame all this on the guys at Trapped Under Plastic for recommending your tutorials!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Several questions,let me take them in turn. 1) I have only used Extra Thin, though I believe in the comments here, someone mentions using Plastic weld and having great results. I really need to try that as well, as I am sure it would work excellent. 2) I have used plasticard with the plastic glue and that works great actually. 3) I haven't tried Styrene, but I can't think of any reason it wouldn't work, the plastic glue works on it and melts it. 4) I never use an accelerator on my plastic glue (only my CA glue), but I don't know of any reason it wouldn't work. 5) I've never used the baking soda trick at all. I am familiar with it, just never had a need to try it. Hope that helps and glad the video was helpful. Hopefully there are some other items in the playlist. I am always happy to answer any questions you have and welcome to the channel and glad to have you along on the hobby journey. :)
@brendanarmstrong7802
@brendanarmstrong7802 6 ай бұрын
I was mad at this video at first for assuming I'd have sprue. I got into the hobby through 3d printing, and decided that if I was gonna invest so much in a 3d printer, I wasn't going to buy any plastic model kits. 3 years later, and... Yeah. Yeah, I've got some sprue lying around. Still way more resin, but it turns out I could only delay the inevitable.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 6 ай бұрын
Hard to escape.
@freemjr
@freemjr 4 жыл бұрын
amazing! Thank you
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
@SCA.Laurents
@SCA.Laurents 4 жыл бұрын
Vince! You should try plast-i-weld, it's MUCH more potent than Tamiya... I don't even gap-fill regular sized models anymore because it will "bead up" the plastic when you mush two pieces together. Large models still pose problems SOMETIMES, but it will melt this slurry faster with less solvent. Give it a chance, you'll be pleasantly surprised!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I will have to give it a try. :)
@witlessfop36
@witlessfop36 4 жыл бұрын
This is a technique I'd forgotten about! It used to be referred to as 'sprue glue'.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's something scale modelers have been using for so long, it was great to bring it more over here into miniatures. :)
@Matcapoeira86
@Matcapoeira86 Жыл бұрын
Hey Vince, love all the work you do with the channel. I had one point though: might be good to add a little warning to this stuff. I had a pot of sprue goo sitting around for a bit. Opened it up and the fumes that came out of it pretty much immediately gave me a raging headache and nausea. Took me a better part of the day to restabilise. Apparently the chemical process of melting those large amounts of sprue can creat some pretty harmfull vapours.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
Good to know.
@1beagles
@1beagles 3 жыл бұрын
Useful tips here - many thanks! Just wondering if one were to use clear sprue this could be used as a canopy filler?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
I would imagine so yes, never thought about that. :)
@mattcappelli5822
@mattcappelli5822 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice tip! Thanks! What would be your next stop if you primed it, but felt there was still a residual gap? Would you still use this again, even though it would eat the paint?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I would just do this again (or go to matte varnish if the gap was really small) and then lightly sand.
@James-dk2kx
@James-dk2kx 3 жыл бұрын
"The cap is plastic." Yep, but the odds are extremely high the cap is high-density polyethylene which is extraordinarily inert and reacts with very few solvents. That's what they use it for this like food containers and gas cans. Definitely making some of this to fill the dip in the Blackstone fortress slot bases so I make the characters stand on a smooth, marble looking bases.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I learned the plastic difference later. The slurry is so useful, it's my go to.
@joegekko
@joegekko 4 жыл бұрын
I use an old Tamiya Extra-Thin bottle and the built in brush for my 'sprue goo'.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I didn't have an extra old thin bottle (I haven't used enough of it), so I went with this alternate choice instead (I didn't want to make people buy multiple bottles.
@pahpaw
@pahpaw Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU ! ! !
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Unnickcomealtri
@Unnickcomealtri 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, genial tutorial! One question tho: will the mix with glue and sprues last forever or will it dry and become useless after a certain amount of time?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
It will last for years, I can't speak to forever, but it should last several years at least.
@jamestaplin8090
@jamestaplin8090 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and ty for this, I have struggled to fill these small gaps in the past. One question, what was the file you used? Was it an emery board?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, just a standard emery board set I bought from amazon, I get sets with multiple "grits" to them.
@Out-to-Pastor
@Out-to-Pastor Ай бұрын
6:40 fun fact, camera afficionado here, you shouldn't shake your polaroid photos. Instead, just place it in your back pocket for 2-5 minutes to develop.
@smadjaraphael
@smadjaraphael Жыл бұрын
So this is the genesis of the sticker on your cutting mat 😂
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@theanimaster
@theanimaster 3 жыл бұрын
I found a use for my crap W&N series 7 brushes!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I basically never throw brushes away, there is always a crappier use.
@MrPicklerwoof
@MrPicklerwoof Жыл бұрын
Nice technique! Despite the ingenuity here though, for me personally I still prefer to use Vallejo Plastic Putty for gaps - it's white, doesn't smell and has a lovely tiny applicator which means there's very little excess when sanding it down. Perfect for those long narrow gaps you get so often with GW models.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Жыл бұрын
Totally fair.
@StormcastMarine
@StormcastMarine 4 жыл бұрын
Vince, we really need a Patreon account man. There are so many arrogant inferior painters that lock their content behind Patreon pay walls. You give us these awesome tutorials for free, with better results and better advice. I don't want you to follow their lead and create a pay wall, but I'd like a way to donate to you for making a difference in my hobby life.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate that and it means a great deal to me. For right now, this is my passion and hobby and a comment like this is more than enough to say thanks. Who knows what the years ahead will bring, but I am happy with everything as it is right now. :)
@j453
@j453 4 жыл бұрын
Not all plastics respond to that thin cement, I'm sure there has got to be a type that won't melt, and fits as the lid.
@charlescampbellii8193
@charlescampbellii8193 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@keithrimer8415
@keithrimer8415 4 жыл бұрын
Vince’s baking channel!!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
It's coming soon. ;)
@itubei9315
@itubei9315 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Is it usable with resin miniatures as well? I'm currently using universal acrylic glue. It's akin to Vallejo plastic putty - white, water soluble, but dirt-cheap
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, this is only for plastics, you will need to use the plastic putty as you mentioned or something similar for resin. :)
@josephhalfacre1584
@josephhalfacre1584 3 жыл бұрын
Finally got around to trying this last night. I couldn't find any tamya local so I tried this Mr Hobby Mr Cements from hobby lobby. It pretty much just solidified the sprue but didn't make a slurry. I left it over night. The bottom is a hard chunk and liquid on top. My vortex mixer isn't helping. I did try to make more then just the bottom layers worth so I didn't have to do it again for a while. I'm going to try adding a little more cement.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Strange, I've never tried it with anything but the Tamiya.
@josephhalfacre1584
@josephhalfacre1584 3 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella looks like adding the extra cement to it helped. Maybe looks a little thin now really but at least it's not a giant chunk anymore. I'm going to test it out tonight on some objective markers I don't care to much about.
@jaredquintana6328
@jaredquintana6328 4 жыл бұрын
I used an empty finger nail polish bottle. it even comes with a brush that is not affected by the acetone. I think it was a varnish or something. it is glass.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
That's actually a great idea. I love it.
@naphaneal
@naphaneal 4 жыл бұрын
let's play "Can you guess where the parts are from" for the steam tank conversion - I take 5 for 500, Alex... 1.) Power Generator from SM Kill Team box, 2.) Dozer Ram from Chaos Rhino 3.) Walker Legs from Armiger Warglaives 4.) Heavy Stubber from Taurox Prime 5.) Steampunk Cannon from Wolsung(?)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Close, the stubber is from the Imperial Knight kit, the cannon is the old empire cannon.:)
@paulhefferan8106
@paulhefferan8106 2 жыл бұрын
Milliput mixed with isopropyl is similar, but works with metal and resin.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Good tip!
@michaelcw6645
@michaelcw6645 4 жыл бұрын
okay so, I have a question. great video by the way... i made some of this but when i applied it to my model it turned out more rubbery than anything. did I not let it cure/dry enough before I messed with it? or does it need more cement? Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Mike
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it didn't completely break down. Seems like a more glue situation, add some more thinner and give it some time and see what happens.
@warminipainting
@warminipainting 4 жыл бұрын
Great cheat video Vince. How long does the 'slurry' last in the jar?
@warminipainting
@warminipainting 4 жыл бұрын
Forget the question.... just read below and there were answers :)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, the answer is basically a very, very long time. :) - Glad it was helpful.
@davidrickey8841
@davidrickey8841 4 жыл бұрын
At the end when you primed it to test for seams, if you found one would you have to clean the primer off, or would just apply more of the slurry directly over the primer?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, just right over the top, sand it down, new layer of primer.
@tomkelly2363
@tomkelly2363 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Vince, slightly off topic question. For your Blending Class at CanCon this year, is the Akhelian King an appropriate model to bring along? Looking for something that will go into my Idoneth or Squig army.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
That should work just fine. :)
@brianw6291
@brianw6291 4 жыл бұрын
You can also mix milliput with isopropyl alcohol.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, I will have to give that a try. :)
@NarcolepticLTD
@NarcolepticLTD 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna have to mess with this one...
@brianw6291
@brianw6291 4 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella The alcohol part starts about halfway through: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e79odMaVzpudfWQ.html
@davedogge2280
@davedogge2280 4 жыл бұрын
This plastic slurry Vs Vallejo plastic putty, which one is better ? I know that with VJ Plastic Putty you can easily wipe it away with water and a cloth if you make a mess, I don't think the homemade plastic slurry would be as forgiving though. The seal will be stronger with the homemade plastic slurry compared to vallejo's putty.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct on the clean-up. The advantage here is that everything is completely welded and you have the mass there and it dries fast, but if you get too much, you are basically sanding it down afterward.
@timpaul2170
@timpaul2170 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any downside to using a cheaper, more readily available solvent (e.g. acetone) for creating that slurry? The Tamiya cement is fairly expensive / hard to come by over here, and most plastic glues I've come across are quite a bit thicker than the Extra Thin appears to be. Very helpful and instrucional as always, Vince! =)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
I can't say for sure, I have honestly never tried with Acetone, I have only done it with the Tamiya extra thin as you only need a little bit of it to make a decent amount of Slurry to last for years.
@lucasmohallem8136
@lucasmohallem8136 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Vince, great tutorial. Do you think that it would work if I mixed some plastic putty with extra thin cement?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
It would not, you need basically the sprue type plastic.
@RandomGamer1984
@RandomGamer1984 4 жыл бұрын
Damnit I could have used this 2 days ago, I didn’t have anything on hand. At least I have a future fix, thank you.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help, sorry it was late. ;)
@stevenleonard6665
@stevenleonard6665 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! Would you say using the actual Tamiya thin container would be fine? I use Tamiya glue and at a certain point I can't really use it anymore due to the shape of the bottle and wouldn't mind just adding some sprue and calling it good.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, this would be a great plan honestly, if you get to the bottom of the bottle where there is just enough, it's a great final use for sure.
@TheDiceMustFlow
@TheDiceMustFlow 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I wonder if that can be used to fill in "print" lines from pla 3d printing
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
They would have to be plastic so it melts in, I am not familiar enough with the materials to know if it would melt in. :)
@Xn7000
@Xn7000 4 жыл бұрын
You can just use the Tamiya extra thin bottle and the included brush for this right? I have a bottle that's down to the bottom cm and this seems like a good use for it.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can, I just didn't like the existing brush as was a little too small to really spread.
@oliverholroyd6352
@oliverholroyd6352 4 жыл бұрын
love these vids vince, whats the name of the music you use its brilliant :)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, the opening is Take that Back, the in video quiet music is a random ambient track in Electronica, both are from KZfaq's free music. :)
@abelbabel8484
@abelbabel8484 4 жыл бұрын
Goobertown has a video where he goes into detail on the chemistry of polystyrene plastic and its solvents.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Good call out, he does great stuff for sure.
@martyndragar7910
@martyndragar7910 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work mate what's the shelf life on the filler?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Basically forever. I mean it will eventually dry out and you may have to add some extra thin plastic glue. But it should easily last several years.
@Johndoe-co3pw
@Johndoe-co3pw Жыл бұрын
If you don’t have plastic cement you can also use acetone. It’s seems to break it down in a similar way
@IronPhysik
@IronPhysik 11 ай бұрын
plastic cement is pretty much pure acetone actually
@joelkelmeling4368
@joelkelmeling4368 2 жыл бұрын
Hi @Vince Venturella! In the video you say we should put it in the oven after mixing sprue and glue. Is that just a figure of speak or do you literally mean we should put it in the oven?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
Just a figure of speech.
@kendrickwhite4868
@kendrickwhite4868 4 ай бұрын
You the goat
@marcyablon1279
@marcyablon1279 4 жыл бұрын
i would like to know if there will be in the future any kit bashing videos at all ?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, I have a few kit bashing videos planned. :)
@HotelPapa100
@HotelPapa100 Жыл бұрын
Your typical plastic pippette will not melt in plastic cement. They are made of polyethylene, which is resistant to most solvents. (Guess what the shaft of the little brush in there is made of) The same is true of the plastic bottle caps. They would melt irrespective of the liquid touching them; those vapors are potent.
@Wijkert
@Wijkert 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince. Have you ever used plastic glue to remove mold lines? Is so, have you found a difference between certain types of plastic?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
I have, I use it to clean up small mold lines, I couldn't really give a whoel break-down, I've mainly used it on GW models and haven't had an issue.
@davidcliatt1314
@davidcliatt1314 3 жыл бұрын
Best idea seance sliced bread 🍞
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😋
@mamacintable
@mamacintable 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think there are any tints that could be added to help differentiate from the model?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
If you used like plasticard or something instead of sprue, it would form a white mixture and that can be very helpful for that very purpose.
@punkercrawf16
@punkercrawf16 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, so I've got a old destroid monster to build that I'll need to use this technique on. Only question I've got to ask is how long you would suggest leaving it in the oven? I know I can just keep checking bit I just thought I'd ask.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 жыл бұрын
So do not actually put this in the oven, this is a joke I regret to this day, I was making an allusion to cooking shows. :) - No, just let it sit for 48 hours and then it will be ready to go. :)
@eatem1978
@eatem1978 3 жыл бұрын
Late to the party but will this work on smaller models too? Like shoulder pads? Thanks for the video.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I basically use this to put together all my models and fill any gaps.
@fizberry8705
@fizberry8705 3 жыл бұрын
When you said to put the mix into the oven, did you mean that literally? If so, what temp and for how long? If not, will the sprue just dissolve on its own with some shaking?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 жыл бұрын
No, that was just a joke to show that it takes time, I had to switch to the one that already had all the plastic broken down. :) - It just dissolves over time.
@fizberry8705
@fizberry8705 3 жыл бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Well sure, I knew you were joking. Yup. And also, no one is embarrassed over here.
@SingerinEX
@SingerinEX 4 жыл бұрын
nice! will it work on resin too?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly no, this is for plastic only as the glue won't melt resin. FOr resin, you need a more traditional putty.
@xommul79
@xommul79 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince, how long does slurry last? Can you make a batch or just a little to use then and there?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
As long as it's airtight when not being used, basically years.
@swhitebull
@swhitebull 4 жыл бұрын
HI VInce. Excellent and helpful video as always. CMON just ran a kickstarter to do a zombicide version of Night of the Living Dead, and of course, all the figures should be painted in a grey scale, since the movie is in black and white. Getting the African-American Ben skintone in greyscalee seems to me especialy tricky. I looked thru all your past videos to see how to do this properly (aside from zenithal lighting), and couldnt find one that fits. Can you do a video on how to do a greytone scale color(less) palette, especially on how to address darker clothes and skin tones? That would be especially helpful and appreciated Thx Scott
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, happy to help as always. Black and White painting is always tough, I have it on the list, but it's really tough. Here is my best advice and simple cheat though. Take a photo you like of a miniature or image that you would want to copy, and turn it black and white and then really, really stare at it. If you follow that map, you should be able to achieve the middle grey tones, that's where the magic is, all int he grey tones.
@swhitebull
@swhitebull 4 жыл бұрын
Hi VInce than you for the reply. I'll have to practice on sold on minis before tackling the NOTLD release next year.
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