So nice to hear a review that isn’t following the trend of every other. I got mine the day they were released. The fit was a no go from the start. I ran miles in three pairs of Speedgoat 4. Felt these were MORE tapered in the toebox. Now in the 4s stretching out was a good thing. These? Even in my house I could tell they were going to stretch and be difficult to lock down in technical terrain. A no go and they went back.

After watching tons of reviews from the bigger youtubers, yours was a breath of fresh air. I recall watching another reviewer whom liked their speedgoat 4 over the 5s due to the issues you have mentioned. Could be a good option to look at since you mentioned you wished you had the base of this shoe in a body of a similar shoe without the issues you pointed out.

99% of this review is spot on with my experience of using SG5. Only difference is that collar rubbing your ankle bone. I don't have that problem and man i like to run in them. Specially long runs on not so technical terrain. Great straightforward review. Thumbs up

Thanks for your review, it helps me to consider buying speedgoat5.

I had SG3 - 2 pairs (1070 km and 820 km), with both of them my heel broke off around 500 km. I have 3 pairs of SG4 (2 have about 750km, one is still in use), here my heel did break but it did not fall off. For the SG5, which has only 64km, on quite different terrains, I can say for now that I like it the most so far. The most comfortable, and the most accurate. They also solved the issue with the braking heel. After several runs, the upper mesh no longer expands, so I have no problem with that. It probably all depends on the foot. Nothing is pressing on my ankle either. However, it is true that I have custom-made sneaker inserts, which probably raises the sole a bit. The only thing I've noticed compared to previous models is that the sole has a slightly elongated heel, which has been hooked to the root several times during descents, which took my leg off. In 20 days I am going to 50k ultra so I will get more info there on how they are behaving. We’ll see what happens to the toenails. :-)

Finally, a KZfaqr that has the same problem as me. I had run over 100km with these pair of shoes. The collar on the speed goat 5 really digs into my ankle as I bomb down hill. A problem that I never have in the speed goat 4s. Also the mesh upper makes it easier for water or dirt to get absorbed.

I sent them back after two runs. I love the 4s, these didn’t even feel like speedgoats to me. The tongue, upper and lacing are a major step back. You should get the 4s and give them a go. They’re incredible

Totally agree with your review. Had a pair of these 5's for a couple of weeks with the aim of using them for a 100k ultra. I've used Hokas for about 6 years and these are probably the 15th pair I've brought. I've always found Hoka to be comfortable straight from the box, so was surprised with the unusual high heel cuff. The insoles are so thin, I replaced them with sorbothane double strikes which instantly remedied the heel rub. Although the sloppy forefoot still remains. I think I will use my Mafate's which are a much better fit but nowhere near as plush a ride.

100% agree w you about the heel collar. I’ve had both SG3 and SG4, and they never gave me any problems around the ankles. But, after 3 runs and 50 miles, I’m still feeling it. Might be sending these back, unfortunately. Because otherwise they are great.

Great review! I was going to buy these new Speedgoat 5, but the upper and one or two other issues changed my mind for what i have been seeing in many KZfaq videos. Yes i'm sure the midsole and the grip are great, but i changed my mind and bought the Salomon Ultra Glide, cheers.

great review Dave!

Great review and I totally agree! I probably owned more than 10 pairs of the Speedgoat. Best model for me is the Speedgoat 3. The Speedgoat 4 is still a good shoe. But in my opinion they totally messed up the Speedgoat 5 with that flexible material in the front. Had the same issues with the Speedgoat Evo and the Mafate Evo. 🤷‍♀️

No matter how much I tighten the shoe still never locked down. Plus I’ve noticed after about 250miles they feel somewhat stale/flat.

Good Review. The Ginger Runner reports the same problem of the lose adjust of the upper!

Yo Dave....great review. Just yesterday I ordered a pair of 10.5's from MEC using a gift certificate. I watched all the positive reviews before and just came across yours just now. My foot is flat and wide so hope I won't get a lot of movement but that ankle bit sounds a little annoying for sure. Like you, these will be my first Hoka shoe. I guess we should keep in touch for shoe swaps my fellow 10.5! Haha! Peace...and subbed!

I have the same issue with my feet sliding around. I have had to stop and retighten the laces several times to help with this but it’s still an issue. Like you I have never worn Hokas before but find them super comfortable. I am training for my first ultra. I am actually going to try the speedgoat 4s which have a different upper to see if this remedies the problem. Otherwise I love them but I worry about getting blisters with the friction from my feet sliding around

Mine also hit ankle bone just slightly only on the one right at first, but then it magically stopped after first two runs, just before i planned on trimming it with a razor. Maybe a break in issue, but this version is cut differently around the ankle than the previous models. Had to crank laces all the way due to the upper material, but once dialed in these are great for me, I have been preferring them over the 4’s.

Loved these shoes initially and I still like them up to the 15 mile mark but anything more my toes seem to start going numb and my foot strike starts to become cumbersome. I’ve got narrow to regular size feet and have never had a problem with the other speedgoat versions which also felt more stable.

Finally i found review is usefull i would like your opinion about the 4 or the mafate

Great honest review. I'm just in the process of putting together a vid after a 16 mile run in them straight out of the box. You beat me to it with several of your comments. I also struggled to get the lacing right and for some reason especially on the left foot 🤷🏻‍♂️. I think the tongue is to short compared to the Speedgoat Evo's and 4's. I didn't get a problem with the ankle section though. The Peregrine 12's are brilliant although a completely different shoe to the Hoka. I posted a short vid on the 12's. I loved the 10's wasn't a fan of the 11's but love the 12's 😀

Have you tried the north face vectiv enduris? Ordered some, annoyed i didnt get the slightly different model with kevlar mesh, i alwahs tear fabric, probably wasted 90 bucks

I had the sg4. Ended up wearing a pad across my ankle bones as they rubbed so much, and the uppers cracked and developed holes, after 500km. The tongue was so thin and I had to lace them so tight or my foot moved around. After your review of the 5 I won’t be buying that either! I do have the Hoka mafate 2, and I have no problems at all except for a bit of foot movement - I also have to buy a mens 10.5 which means a bit bigger in the ankle than a woman’s shoe which may account for the foot movement. The perils of big feet.

I think the Salomon Ultra Glide could be a shoe you'd like, they are often compared to Speed Goats in cushioning and grip. I love my pair.

Absolutely loved these shoes out of the box, but had the exact problem with my lateral ankle on my first long run in the mountains. Relegated to lawn mowing shoes unfortunately.

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Hi, maybe you should have swapped the insole by a thicker one so that your foot would be higher in the shoe, hoping it will solve your lack of guiding and anckle bone contact. Next time then !

My brand new SG5 smell bad, like someone has run a marathon in them already, is this typical?

I took them for their first run up the crazy technical trail Speedgood trail up Sugarloaf and I had to retie my laces like 3 times from coming loose. Love the shoes but not super locked in.

Did the ankle bone issue go away with break in?

Looked at this, went with the Scarpa Spin Inifinity instead.🏃‍♂️🤘

Oooof, I have these on order and I think I know what you're talking about in terms of your feet moving too much around (the worst Ive experienced are the Nike React Infinity. Absolutely dont have a clue how people run on those) I have yet to receive them but if they indeed have a very flexy upper, think Ill be keeping the Saucony Peregrine 12s. Too bad, everything else sounded very promising.

I was really excited to run in my Speedgoat 4s (Limited Edition), but my Speedgoat 5s concern me. They look great, but the lockdown is sketchy.

Nice honest review. Have you Tried another lacing with a Heel lock, that works for me. Otherwise, please send Them to me in Denmark.

Man I’ve only had mine for less than 20 miles and the upper has stretched so much I have nowhere to go with the laces. Can’t get a good lockdown and the tongue keeps moving to the side. And I don’t have particularly narrow feet. Really disappointed with them.

Bravo ol chap ! Based on your review it sounds to me like the only good thing I would get out of that shoe is grip. I have never tried, nor will I ever, a Hoka product. In my opinion they have way too much cushion and for me that's a problem. SAUCONY SAUCONY SAUCONY hehehehehe.

Great analysis about them 👏🏻 I have Saucony peregrine 10 and after 10klm my ankle turn some times. I want to buy the next trail shoe, can someone give me advice about which to choose?😁

Hi Dave you can send them to me in South Africa currently training for my first Ultra trail . Yes started this year and i would love to do the 100km Sky-Run in 2024. Started running at the age of 55 and i would love to tick the bucket with a 100km before im 60. Problem with the exchange rate to the Pound and Dollar is very high running shoes in SA are R3000-00 for a good pair. What shoe do you recommend ? THX great channel

Unpopular opinion indeed! But very very true. I sold mine on 50km mark.

Thank you. To each his own but I really don’t get the Speedgoat line. The foot shape is oddly narrow., the ride underwhelming. The quality is questionable; ripped an eyelet after less than 30 miles. I like other shoes in the Hoka line, including the brilliant Tecton X. To me there are so many better options for longer ultras, including the Tecton X and X2; the Norda 001; the Craft CTM Ultra Carbon; and the Speedland GS:TAM.

Can I use these for golf?

I tried these on the other day at a store and yes, it is comfy, but my heel felt weird in these shoes, it felt like there was no heel support at all.. strange experience.. I wanted to love these so much.. but.. well, no.

As an avid Speedgoat fan, I am completely disappointed in this model 5. The upper is the issue and it kills the shoe when it comes to technical running through rock gardens, roots, etc. I also have a hole in the side from a stick hitting the shoe. Not sure what they were thinking this go around.

I'm a runner and raise goats, yet don't wear the speedgoat

I can never wear Adidas due to my arch I think.

You bought too big of a shoe :D try smaller number if your foot is moving around and your ankle is too low.

I think you could actually be a little less humble about how personal your review on this shoe is!

Two minutes in and he’s still talking about reviewing the shoe … without actually reviewing the shoe.

6:12 Day two of wearing these. And it hurts too. 😌