Which smart light switches are the best?

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Home Automation Guy

Home Automation Guy

Жыл бұрын

When I moved into my new home I needed a solution to make my ceiling lights smart. In this video I show you the process I went through to chose the best smart switches for my home.
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@NebulaNeoca
@NebulaNeoca Жыл бұрын
FINALLY! someone reviewing EU style switches
@TexSweden
@TexSweden Жыл бұрын
I use Shelly whenever I can, local control, use regular wall switches and regular bulbs. I have over 100 different wifi/zigbee devices around the house from all manufacturers and the only one that always works is the Shelly stuff. The relays are absolutely rock solid.
@peaslaker
@peaslaker Жыл бұрын
I lucked in on the Candeo as my first selection. It is exactly as described . Completely familiar to any member of the family or to guests. Really good tactile feel. No dropouts.
@BMWMike
@BMWMike Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. Your requirements are more or less the same as mine. I was considering the Moes but you've opened my eyes to the Candeo. I think I'll end up getting those for the dimmable rooms.
@Mooba2
@Mooba2 11 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I found this channel. We're currently building and I want easy smooth automation. I may be binging these videos
@pcboffin
@pcboffin Жыл бұрын
Great to see more UK content on this sort of thing. I went with a Shelley relay at the light fitting when I first started, because it meant keeping the existing switches and 2 way functionality. It's been flawless, though it doesn't solve the dimming problem of course. The Candeo look to be a good solution, if costly. I know that Scolmore Click (A huge brand in the electricial industry) are getting into the market with zigbee options too, so there may be more good choices in the future finally.
@solidus784
@solidus784 7 ай бұрын
iolloi make a good quality dimmable module but you will need a retractive switch to control it.
@photorealm
@photorealm 11 ай бұрын
Very useful video. Anyone considering using automated lighting should see this first. Great job.
@sagikazarmark
@sagikazarmark Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I didn't have to go through this process myself. Based on your review I can confidently say Aquara is the best for my home. Thanks for making this video! I'd love to see more comparisons of various smart home devices.
@lsismeiro
@lsismeiro Жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm loving this series. I suggest in the end a video with your partner talking about the smart home and how improved both your lives. 😊
@bmxmellie1
@bmxmellie1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the grate info we are redoing the kitchen and living room and I now have a good understanding what switches to use
@nikoscoulson
@nikoscoulson Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and perfectly timed as I’m hunting around for the perfect switch to couple with motion sensors. Good luck with the rest of your smart home
@andyanthka-lb3hj
@andyanthka-lb3hj Жыл бұрын
Was asking the same thing a couple of months ago, I found out that Legrand/Bticino switches were the best option for me. They also meet all of your criteria except they don’t report the power consumption and don’t offer 3-4 gangs. I have mixed both wired (no neutral) and wireless switches. It offers look and feel consistency across my home. The dimming will probably never be as good as the candeo one! Good luck on your journey and thanks for sharing
@EdwinPWeston
@EdwinPWeston Жыл бұрын
Endpoint, Router. Not sure why I assumed every Zigbee device was a router, but now that I know where to find this information, my troubleshooting abilities just went to the next level. Thank you so much!
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome! Glad to hear you learned something, that's why I make these videos!
@sygad1
@sygad1 Жыл бұрын
that's a pretty decent review, thanks for making this, given me quite a head start on some of the decisions I need to make for myself
@limecows8470
@limecows8470 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I've been struggling to find smart switches with my requirements. The aqara looks like what I need.
@Garris_Shrike
@Garris_Shrike 3 ай бұрын
This review is awesome. Analyses all that really matters.
@Biru_to
@Biru_to 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video. The Aqara were exactly the kind of switch I was looking for, with their ability to decouple from my hue lights, but also offer the ability to use the same kinds of switches for lights I don't want or need to be smart themselves. Thank you! 👍
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy 6 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@sundara2557
@sundara2557 8 ай бұрын
Your videos are helping me to improve my new home. 🎉🎉🎉
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad it's helpful!
@soundman127
@soundman127 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing this, I installed several Zemismart ZigBee and their hub. They work quite well, but not sure I should have chosen the touch versions.
@philtuc4489
@philtuc4489 Жыл бұрын
Hi Alan. I enjoyed that video. I have 7 candeo units, i have them paired with momentary/ retractive switches which makes it super easy for manual control. A couple of the candeo units are the back box version sat in the ceiling rose and only taking input from the momentary switches. I also fitted the candeo units into chrome casing like the momentary so it all looks more premium.
@surajalexander2977
@surajalexander2977 Жыл бұрын
I found that it had 1 to 2 second delay when I try to turn it on. Works almost instantly if I try to turn it on through Philips hue but the physical toggle has a delay. Have you found this to be the case as well?
@gavintheurquhart
@gavintheurquhart Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another awesome video. You have inspired a lot of my setup. I’m already set up with switches and yes I love the Candeo. I love that you can retrofit them to an existing plate. I replaced a 3 gang in the kitchen over a period of a few weeks and nobody noticed. For my non-dimmables I’m Shelly relays all the way leaving the standard light switches in place.
@lawrencemanning
@lawrencemanning Жыл бұрын
Do the Shelley’s click? I have a sonoff that has a pretty audible click; it’s surprisingly annoying. Also it just barely fits in the backbox.
@gavintheurquhart
@gavintheurquhart Жыл бұрын
@@lawrencemanning they definitely click. I have put in deeper back boxes to accommodate the relay. Also the upstairs lights all have the relays in the ceiling space where the wiring is as for some reason my house has neutral wires at the switches downstairs but not upstairs.
@RB-us6tf
@RB-us6tf 6 ай бұрын
This is one of the best videos I've seen about smart home - well done, I really appreciate the detail! I'm waiting for a retrofit module with Thread Router capabilities to be released so that I can add it to my existing switches.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate the kind words. I would love a Thread retrofit model too, but I didn't want to wait!
@RB-us6tf
@RB-us6tf 6 ай бұрын
@@HomeAutomationGuy Yep, makes sense. I just now ordered the Sonoff MINIR4M (the one with matter) to play around. Though I’ll not stick with it since it relies on Wifi and most of my devices are no Thread.
@oudoulj
@oudoulj Жыл бұрын
Aweseome work ! I have a couple of Aqara H1 wireless 2-gang switches and they look and feel great. You can create automations in HA that will dim or bright the lights by double clicking or holding down the buttons but it's less intuitive that a dial for sure.
@LeonJoosse
@LeonJoosse Жыл бұрын
Really liked the video an the detail you put into it. Thumbs up, good work!
@SimonLYW
@SimonLYW Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. It’ll be an incredible resource for someone starting out.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@patrickpaganini
@patrickpaganini Жыл бұрын
Excellent video - look forward to the next one!
@paulofthebailey
@paulofthebailey Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. And it made me feel great about last week’s Candeo purchase! Reckon they’ll be getting a bit more of my money for other rooms now 😁
@jonglas
@jonglas 4 ай бұрын
Incredibly helpful, thanks.
@redders6600
@redders6600 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this great video - really enjoyed your testing process and clear evaluation criteria (which happily mostly aligned with mine). Keep it up!
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@anotherhurayra2024
@anotherhurayra2024 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the nice review, very clear and to the point with explanations.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy 8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@bogorad
@bogorad Жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative, as always! Thanks!
@Gaatyeo
@Gaatyeo Жыл бұрын
Thanks for recommendation of the candeo - such easy install
@RichardBrunt
@RichardBrunt Жыл бұрын
Also a big fan of the Candeo - it's the only smart switch I've found that doesn't look like a smart switch (at least for us in the UK), guests in our house don't even notice that it's any different!
@lawrencemanning
@lawrencemanning Жыл бұрын
There are relay modules you can get, like ones made by sonoff, that have this same attribute. Though you need to have a reasonable amount of room in the backbox. The other nice thing is if you don’t want to convert all the bulbs or switches to smart the ones that are smart don’t look out of place.
@colincheng6674
@colincheng6674 Жыл бұрын
@@lawrencemanning I second this suggestion. I have added Sonoff zigbee relays which then allows dumb switches to become smart switches. The only downside is that I'm not convinced that the sonoff relays support dimming. Another caveat is that Sonoff makes the Zigbee Mini relay as well as the Mini-l which doesn't require a neutral wire. While the ZB mini acts as a router, the mini-l does not.
@fr0d0scious
@fr0d0scious Жыл бұрын
Good video thank you. I got the Moes 3 gang.. and I totally agree with you about the cheapness of the build. I hate pressing them and have most scenes triggered elsewhere.. by a remote button pad, motion and presence sensors and voice controls. I'm still searching for a better switch
@milicsantiago
@milicsantiago Жыл бұрын
Really a great video. Also what a mesh network!! Chapeau!
@shaunryan2659
@shaunryan2659 Жыл бұрын
Really useful video, thank you. Keep on Keepin' on!
@klaneos666
@klaneos666 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Looking for a review of the sonoff switch modules and the Mercator Ikuu range of Zigbee switches.
@snaxalig
@snaxalig Жыл бұрын
I had the same question and found myself buying devices from the Plejd assortment. They are good looking, really smart and very easy to use and control in any scenario. You should try’em out.
@tmbiggs5343
@tmbiggs5343 Жыл бұрын
I am very much enjoying the videos. I am construction my new retirement home and am facing all the same decisions. I did tell my electrician that there needs to be a neutral wire at every switch box so that will solve some of my possible issues. I am US based so my options are different. I too specifically want to avoid wifi switches. Perhaps those sonoff panels mighty be cool. thanks
@19micky79
@19micky79 Жыл бұрын
Btw… the Aqara D1 is also available as three-gang. Thank you for the amazing review! I was also skeptic about the Moes three-gang touch and you expressed exactly my concerns
@pllevi
@pllevi Жыл бұрын
After making the same journey into buying several different switches I decided to pick up Aqara D1 (with neutral and wireless) series switches even if they do not fit into round European boxes. I purchased square boxes and mounted them in place of round ones. I have mixture of three, two, one, and wireless switches. They created stable zigbee network across three floors. I use z2m and only gripe I have is that depending on number of channels some options are available and some not (disconnecting or reversing LED indicators, mains voltage reporting, energy usage [Wh], and instant power [W]). It may be limitation of firmware or z2m but, unfortunately, I did not have time to investigate. I have over 30 of those switches and none of them experienced any issue. Aqara D1 is in my opinion best choice so far in 2023. They work great and they have look&feel of good quality wall switch. I don't know why H1 do not have triple button. H1 are also more expensive and unavailable on Aliexpress for some reason ...
@19micky79
@19micky79 Жыл бұрын
@@pllevi thank you for all this info. Yes, the H1 doesn’t have three buttons, but you can look for Aqara Opple with 6 buttons
@dkickelbick
@dkickelbick Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! It helped very much. All of your videos about the new house!
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
I am glad to hear it, thank you!
@blakadders
@blakadders Жыл бұрын
That's some good work, you covered all the bases
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
Thanks blakadder! My smart home wouldn't be anywhere near as smart without all the amazing foundational work you do for us and the community!
@rcampbell4967
@rcampbell4967 4 ай бұрын
Very thorough review! Still wrapping my head around a rack server for a smarthome, but ok. In the US, GE, Leveton, and Lutron are market leaders and readily available at big box stores.
@alanmoore2197
@alanmoore2197 Жыл бұрын
I understand your rationale for choosing the 2 types of controls (switches & dimmers) and I generally agree with your criteria - but I'd add one: the selected controls should look consistent throughout the house (not necessarily exactly the same - but thematically matching). To me the very different look of the selected controls would be a no-no. Especially when mounted side by side - they just look far too different (the nature of the controls, the plate style, the visible fixing screws on one but not the other, rounded corners vs square). They look to be from two quite different eras.
@stefa168
@stefa168 Жыл бұрын
Indeed that's my issue with these kind of switches, and why I am using only zigbee relays that accept inputs directly from my normal switches and that sit inside the wall boxes. I've been upgrading my home switches this way without having to change the look or replacing them, especially because I have different switches and plaques styles in different rooms. The main goal I'm going after is "enhancing, not replacing". The switches and relays work even without a zigbee coordinator, so I'm not locked out of my lights just because my server is down or updating. Right now I had extremely good experiences both with NodON and Vimar relays.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
Yeh, that's a fair criticism.
@alanmoore2197
@alanmoore2197 Жыл бұрын
@@stefa168 For switching yes - but unfortunately that doesn't get you dimming functionality.
@stefa168
@stefa168 Жыл бұрын
@Alan Moore yeah you're absolutely right
@Gantch515
@Gantch515 Жыл бұрын
@@stefa168 , yeah, diy smart switch can make your normal switches into smart switches as well😀
@gibboireland
@gibboireland 7 ай бұрын
Very comprehensive, nice video!
@Gerwin-
@Gerwin- Жыл бұрын
Great video, would love more like this!
@DiscountITsolution
@DiscountITsolution 9 ай бұрын
Awesome video! My wife told me I could make ours a smart home but her older parents must be able to come in and operate things without any extra effort. I finally found the leviton z wave dimmer switches, R51-DZ6HD-1RZ. Only drawback is it requires a neutral line in the switch box and some older houses use a switch loop in the US.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy 9 ай бұрын
Great to hear! A lot of houses in the UK also don't have a Neutral wire - we feel your pain!
@adamcoffee738
@adamcoffee738 Жыл бұрын
Would definitely like to see a more indepth video on the sonoff smart touch screen/switch. I'm using some sonoff mini r2s in my home now for my christmas lights and looking at adding more throughout the house
@steveaga4136
@steveaga4136 7 ай бұрын
I am just getting into smartening up my home and had some what similar requirements particularly for the minimum use of wifi in order to keep things local ( I expect us all to be disconnected from The grid for various reasons in the future) and I agree about the zigbee focus, one of the things you didn’t try and I am waiting on the delivery of some units to test are kinetic based rf switches from in my case Quinetic. As they can connect to the quinetic hub to give WiFi and therefore home assistant integration they serve for me the purpose of not having to channel out walls in areas where I want new two and three gang switches, the ability to not have anyone mess up the automated side of things by using a wall switch but giving Luddites the ability to seek out the familiar wall boxes to make light is a very nice to have conceptually, infact if this works I will put all the main power cut protected lights on to kinetic switches to ensure safe passage around the property in black out periods. Interested in any feedback from anyone already tried the quinetic also
@sabroyles21
@sabroyles21 9 ай бұрын
Been getting a lot of good info from your channel, I wanted to send a thanks!
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy 9 ай бұрын
That is amazing! Thank you so much for your support! ❤️
@MartinPivka
@MartinPivka Жыл бұрын
Aqara H1 is also my switch of choice. Tried couple of them and this one has definitely the best build quality and feel. The click is super satisfying and reassuring. It also supports single, double or triple click as well as separate hold and release. I'm using the battery versions because of the shallow switch boxes but so far I can't really complain. Other really solid switch is the one from IKEA (small dimmer switch). Very nice click, good response and build quality. And for the scenes I'm using Aqara OPPLE switches. They cost 15EUR each for 6 gang version which has 30 possible actions configurable! Build quality is not that great as IKEA, but still very nice.
@jolieolie
@jolieolie Жыл бұрын
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@cumxum
@cumxum 10 ай бұрын
great research , thanks for all these tips
@hamza817
@hamza817 5 ай бұрын
This was precisely what I was looking for. It's a great detail - thanks. It's a shame we don't have the Aqara triple rocker in the EU; I need a 3-gang solution.
@junblud
@junblud Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see your take on the NS Panel!! I want to use them in my house for lighting, heating and blind control
@NaderHajHasan
@NaderHajHasan Жыл бұрын
Great effort Alan.
@Akash.Chopra
@Akash.Chopra Жыл бұрын
Great info, thank you! I use smart switches everywhere, *_except_* my home theater room. Any smart switch I've installed adds noticeable noise through my speakers, so I had to go with individual smart bulbs. Everytime someone turns off and on the dumb switch real fast, all my pairings get erased 😢.
@ConorLalor
@ConorLalor Жыл бұрын
I have a couple of the Candeo switches. I like that they look and act like a traditional dimmer. But I do find them a bit "sticky" when turning them on and off. They're also not great at reporting their on/off state. Don't know why, but they're the only ZigBee devices I have with that issue. (Another issue with smart GU10 bulbs, is they're usually taller than standard GU10 bulbs - which can be a problem with many fixtures. I learnt this the hard way.)
@toly11041982
@toly11041982 3 ай бұрын
Great videos and thank you so much for your help to us !! 🤗
@skrachi1986
@skrachi1986 9 ай бұрын
I love this review and it also highlights the issue with the UK based smart home options. Because I didn't want a mix match of different switches around my house, I ended up getting Lightwaverf switches and sockets. I know its not an option for you since it uses a hub, but if you already usea Broadlink RM4 Pro, you can integrate them there in HA.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@MichelPster
@MichelPster Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! this'll help me make my choices. Subbed due to this! keep it going mate!
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@irelandshane1984
@irelandshane1984 11 ай бұрын
Recently found this channel, really liking it 👍 Was hoping to see a review of Sonoff switches/NS Panel 😏
@user-sw1oe6pg5k
@user-sw1oe6pg5k 4 ай бұрын
Hi, I’m from the U.S. and your Narration is FREAKIN’ & FRIGGIN AWESOME!!!… (You made me laugh multiple time’s, so i Subscribed AND Liked!!!)… When you used the “Word or Phrase” Friggin’ or Freakin’ THAT did it for me!!!… (Thought i was the ONLY one that ever used those (2) “Verbiage’s”) 😊
@aberdeenal3234
@aberdeenal3234 Жыл бұрын
Great video again - looking forward to the next one
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kristod76
@kristod76 3 ай бұрын
Great video. As always.
@Reza1984_
@Reza1984_ Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks for sharing
@Badg0r
@Badg0r Жыл бұрын
Man!!!! I wish my office / cave / own room looked organized like this. It's all over the place.
@warlordattack
@warlordattack 7 ай бұрын
phenomenal video thank you 👍👍
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy 7 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@djdobro
@djdobro Жыл бұрын
Same situation as you. I bought a two way dimmable moes module and experienced the same inconsistency as you showed. Shame as they even have 4gang version, no dimming though, which could have been a an awesome thing. The aqara ones look great as long as you don't need to put two next to each other. They are slightly bigger than standard EU switches so you can't fit two together. As others have pouted out, sometimes a behind the plate module is better, as style of switches is important. Our house will have gray walls so dark switches with sharp corners would be prefered.
@ZeeWatcher1000
@ZeeWatcher1000 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Thank you.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@varunaeeriyaulla
@varunaeeriyaulla Жыл бұрын
You missed one important thing. Most cheap smart switches do not remember the last power state after a power cut. The default state is usually ON. Imagine in the middle of the night, all your lights are flashing after a power cut recovery. 😅 I have a couple of Mose switches. They don't remember the last state. I had to create manual power state reminders for each switch gang to prevent this issue. It was a pain. Now I always buy Aqara switches. They remember the last power state and are reliable.
@walkertron
@walkertron 7 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if the Candeo C202 remembers power state?
@joeld9663
@joeld9663 2 ай бұрын
Did you get an answer to this ?
@Develish31
@Develish31 8 ай бұрын
Great review.
@vlavrynovych
@vlavrynovych 5 ай бұрын
Nice! I agree with all of comments for all the products. I wish I see this video before I bought Lonsonho and Moes. Aqara is super cool for most of the cases, but I wanted them to be a routers. Thanks for sharing your experience
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy 5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@TEverlith
@TEverlith Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great comparison video! Please, do an NS panel video, it seems that the NS panel hardware and software have recently gone through some changes that make it simpler to get into HA.....?
@JonatanRaven
@JonatanRaven Жыл бұрын
Honestly, smart switches has been my worst nightmare trying to set things up at home due to incompatibility issues, thanks for this.
@KM-hj7nz
@KM-hj7nz Жыл бұрын
Great video Alan 👍 do give the varilight v-pro smart wifi switches a look. I use them without issues and have installed them for family , may not meet your extensive requirements but they do 3 and 4 gang versions as well and come packed with great features. Also able to handle many types of dimmable led lights, trailing/leading edge and dimmable led drivers without issues. No neutral wire required.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@djhiti
@djhiti 8 ай бұрын
Great video!! I am having some difficulty getting things to work. I am trying to use lumary RGB recessed lights with smart switches that can dimm via HA, app, and physical dimmer switch. So far, no smart switch has worked..
@1972mfk
@1972mfk Жыл бұрын
Very useful video. I have used aqara switches at my house. They have 3 gangs and can be bought on many online platforms. I am struggling with a 3 gang switch which needs to be two way. I have a workaround with aqara relay switch
@Steve-dv4lv
@Steve-dv4lv 6 ай бұрын
Amazing ! Thanks !
@junming1000
@junming1000 8 ай бұрын
Hi awesome review on the switches. I been looking at the aqara H1 switches however they only come with white faceplates. By any chance if you know the aqara H1M would work just good as the H1 with home assistant, as H1M is only currently for china domestic market.
@KrastyoKrastev
@KrastyoKrastev Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Awesome channel! I need / want some Aqara switches now
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
Glad it was useful!
@TechMedDurra
@TechMedDurra Жыл бұрын
Shelly has 4-gang ”switches”. It’s called i4. It’s just a controller though so you need to complement them with actual switches too. The switches can be mounted at the light instead of behind the buttons. If you don’t like Shelly’s own buttons you can use any other of your liking. Shelly does not require the cloud to speak to Home Assistant or to each other. Loved the video, though.
@rutgerdezeeuw
@rutgerdezeeuw Жыл бұрын
I agree, and the main benefit is that you can just use regular switches which make your house more attractive once your want to sell it.
@dan-in-asia
@dan-in-asia Жыл бұрын
I was just about to say the same. One of the biggest advantages is that you can use any non smart lightswitch, so you have thousands of options available. Using them in my new smart home.
@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat Жыл бұрын
SInce when shelly have Zigbee stuff? wifi stuff is STUPID
@PatrickOReilly
@PatrickOReilly Жыл бұрын
Very thorough video. Just went through a similar process myself and found Aqara to be very versatile, even reporting room temperature to within 1°C. My only criticism would be the decoupled switches can't bind directly to lights.
@varunaeeriyaulla
@varunaeeriyaulla Жыл бұрын
Actually, it shows the device/switch temperature.
@MarkWebbJohnson
@MarkWebbJohnson Жыл бұрын
I can highly recommend the Aqara D1. WBKG26LM is the 3 gang version with all the features of the others you mention.
@user-wu6mc8es5w
@user-wu6mc8es5w 2 ай бұрын
I've conducted tests on numerous smart switches and finally found the perfect fit for my home from a company called Bseed. Their Zigbee devices boast exceptional reliability and stability. While they may not be the most economical option, I prioritize quality above all else. In the Netherlands, it's been customary for quite some time to have sockets and switches with neutral wiring. Luckily, my house even had separate wiring for this purpose, with double boxes facilitating an easy setup. I believe the optimal approach is to utilize neutral wiring whenever possible; this ensures consistent performance from these devices. Bseed also offers models that don't require a neutral wire, but while they work fine, they lack routing capabilities. In such cases, using a bulb can serve as an alternative and even extend the signal range.😁😁😁
@nprez83
@nprez83 Жыл бұрын
Great video. A few folks have mentioned but there is the option of using Localtuya or the newer Tuya Local integrations to control your Tuya wifi devices locally. They are still connected and sending updates to the cloud, so this is by no means a security measure, rather a way to improve the responsiveness of devices. I have several Treadlife wifi switches and several lights bulbs that I connect using Localtuya and it works great.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Daniel15au
@Daniel15au Жыл бұрын
I'd personally avoid wifi switches since Zigbee exists and is better suited for this use case.
@gzoechi
@gzoechi 9 ай бұрын
I was just researching yesterday and found "Friends of Hue" switched quite appealing. They are available in many designs and can even work on kinetic energy like EnOcean. They are expensive though. If there is enough space and wiring, I think I'll go with old-style switches and flush-mounted relais/dimmers.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy 9 ай бұрын
I've not personally used them, will give them a go if I come across them! Thanks for sharing
@markjhorsley
@markjhorsley Жыл бұрын
I went with a H1 for a front outside light - great bit of kit, only ballache was replacing the back box
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
Yeh, that is definitely a ballache. But now they're big for ever - FUTURE PROOFING!
@leewalker9851
@leewalker9851 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!!! Thank you so much for your efforts. I’ve been looking at this exact subject for the past few weeks and it is such a shame that aqara switches can not dim. One brand I’ve been researching is lightwaverf, they seem quite good as well, though a little pricey
@andreasmoyseos5980
@andreasmoyseos5980 5 ай бұрын
Hi Lee, I'm looking into Lightwave - any chance you tried them and can share your experience? Thanks!
@Denizenn
@Denizenn Жыл бұрын
Great Video! I also have a candeo in my house and I had an issue with it at first not reporting its manually changed state via zigbee. Few emails with Candeo and I had a replacement on the way that has worked great for almost a year. I have just checked their website following this video and they have a 2 gang kit available now for £78. I've ordered it and will give it a shot!
@0wnage718
@0wnage718 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I have been using lightwave smart switches and sockets for years now and they have been faultless, I know they aren’t Zigbee and they are a little expensive but when I compare them to all the others available these come out on top every time. Pick some up and give them your honest opinion, the other good thing is they’re a uk based firm from good old Birmingham!
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
I briefly lived in a fancy apartment a few years ago that had Lightwave switches and they were pretty good. But I read that they don't play that nicely with Home Assistant in a locally connected way, so I didn't look at them further for my new house. I may be wrong about that though, as I've not tested them personally with HA
@BerkeleyTowers
@BerkeleyTowers Жыл бұрын
Love the video and respect your choices of "must haves". But, I think the Shelly deserved a bit more love! Did you address the "must operate as a dumb switch" fully? My apologies if I missed it. That's just one of the (many) beauties of the Shelly. You don't have to use their fronts, you can use whatever faceplate you want. Having invested hugely in expensive brushed steel faceplates, it was a must for me. It ticks all the other boxes apart from the obvious inability to be a ZigBee router. You didn't mention voice integration potential? The Shelly will integrate to Alexa through HA and gives full dimming and switching capability by voice. In short, my missus didn't even know anything had changed. My old mum can come and use the switches, just as she has for the last 80+ years. Ironically, we now use the full functionality of the devices by voice. Never really having to touch the expensive, beautifully built faceplates! But they look good! And of course, if they décor ever changes, so can the faceplates. Finally, I'm no Shelly fanboy, just horses for courses. Their battery operated stuff has been desperately disappointing. Aqara and ZigBee rocks for that! With that in mind, I'd highly encourage people to watch the previous videos you've linked at the top BEFORE they watch this video. ATB.
@redhoodienz
@redhoodienz Жыл бұрын
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@twentytwo278
@twentytwo278 2 ай бұрын
This is the info I needed to hear - thank you so much for posting. My 'home automation eletrician' came over today who told me the shelly relays fitted in the ceiling don't allow for using the dumb switches as is, as when someone turns off the dumb switch it'll kill the power to the relay so you won't be able to turn it on remotely (and vice versa!) that definitely doesn't seem to be true from your reply. Which shelly units are you using?
@BerkeleyTowers
@BerkeleyTowers 2 ай бұрын
@@twentytwo278 I'm afraid your spark is talking bollocks.... Mainly... The Shelly devices can work without a neutral, which is nearly always missing in UK light switches. But, they work far more reliably, especially the dimmers, if you can bring a neutral to the switch.
@BerkeleyTowers
@BerkeleyTowers 2 ай бұрын
@@twentytwo278 I'm using most of them. Relays.. dimmers.... RGBW..... PM's... Light bulbs. I don't bother with their battery stuff anymore...
@twentytwo278
@twentytwo278 2 ай бұрын
@@BerkeleyTowers I thought that must be the case...doesn't exactly fill me with confidence about them. I haven't actually opened up a switch yet but he seemed 100% sure I had neutrals at the switches given it's a 4yo new build. Any recommendation ? I was looking at the Plus 1M or mini depending on space in backbox
@BillyDickson
@BillyDickson Жыл бұрын
Thank you! that was really informative, candeo for the win then. 👍
@PhilM82
@PhilM82 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video, I like all the switches in my house to look uniform as in my opinion gives a better look, think you would be better with the candeo module without the face place and then buy something like a MK grid faceplate for 3/4 gang to create your own, could be expensive though as each candeo module is 37.99
@shlokp
@shlokp Жыл бұрын
Great comparison! I have spent an extermely large time looking into smart dimmer switches to achieve 1 simple goal - to be able to have smart dimmer switch in a two way configuration. While Candeo can techinally do two way, one of those switches has to be a retractive switch which breaks the consitency across the house. The only switch that came close were the Aurora Aone smart dimmer (think the company has gone into adminstration) however even that will not work if you use it without their propriotory hub. While each dimmer can support native Z2M, theres no way to do 2 way without their hub (I bought it and tried!) Varilight also had 2 way dimmers with a master and slave dimmer however they did not work natively with HA and required the use of SUPLA. Ended up returning all the dimmers and currently just using dumb dimmers.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
That's the problem with being on the forefront of a technology wave - we're limited for choices for smart home products right now and often have to make compromises. Hopefully the market and industry continues to innovate, and by the time I upgrade my tech we have a lot more things to choose from!
@rolandtemmerman1100
@rolandtemmerman1100 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting video, which is not sponsored and therefore also guards against a "Fehlkauf", a misbuy. In an existing installation, Home automation is adding functionality while maintaining what everyone already knew, without causing surprises or problems they cannot solve themselves. I therefore use Shelly relays (decoupled) with Esphome - Home Assistant as a switch mounted behind the existing pushbuttons from the European suppliers so that the WAF remains guaranteed (Schneider, Legrand, Busch-Jaeger, Gira, Berker, BTicino, etc.). The switches all retain the appearance they always had and no one is surprised. What I have added is an NSPanel from Sonoff (integrated into HA) which I use more than my housemates who find that toy unnecessary despite the nice look.
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome! I like your setup, it is great to keep things how they are without surprises. I just really didn't want to keep my old light switches and I wanted a strong Zigbee mesh. The sensible person inside me agrees with your housemates that the NSPanel is a toy. But the smart home nerd inside me can't wait to set it up and play with it!
@alaaldeenabdelkader5428
@alaaldeenabdelkader5428 Жыл бұрын
Great video. What is your recommendation for the smart curtain motors? Ones which can move heavy curtains
@Timpilgrim
@Timpilgrim Жыл бұрын
I've been using Candeo - definitely the best I've tried (albeit from a limited pool!) You can also fit the Candeo modules into a fancier faceplate - I've got some fancy looking smart light switches now!
@HomeAutomationGuy
@HomeAutomationGuy Жыл бұрын
I'm using the Home Assistant Sky Connect zigbee coordinator. I tested the Sonoff relays in a previous video and didn't like the clicking noise that they made, and they don't fit too well in a standard UK back box.
@markkychan88
@markkychan88 Жыл бұрын
very useful video thank you. any of these particularly future proof with possible support for matter in the future? got a new house I'm planning to add in smart lights and automation, some wall switches are not where I want them to be so was thinking of how to sort individual scenarios out with smart devices. thank you doe any help!
@sinin70
@sinin70 Жыл бұрын
What I would love to see are some reviews on electrical sockets. Trying to find a UK ZigBee socket with power monitoring that didn't look rubbish (but was in black), or cost a small mortgage, has been difficult/impossible. There are WiFi versions, but that is not what I'm after, and I didn't want the plug-in plugs either.
@kennethojeke5119
@kennethojeke5119 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, have you consider adding surge protector device in your installations?
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