Honda's 2023 Accord Is All-In On Hybrids And Big Screens

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Auto Buyers Guide | Alex on Autos

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Жыл бұрын

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@jenesuispasbavard
@jenesuispasbavard Жыл бұрын
I really really like Honda's hybrid system. The fact that this Clarity gets practically the same amount of power in electric mode as in hybrid mode is one of the major reasons we got this car vs a Prius or RAV4 Prime.
@dundundata7603
@dundundata7603 Жыл бұрын
I have it in my '23 CR-V and it's great.
@brooklyn560
@brooklyn560 11 ай бұрын
it feels soulless on the road
@zsamps
@zsamps 11 ай бұрын
@@brooklyn560It’s a Honda Accord… it doesn’t need a “soul.”
@Negev-Israel360
@Negev-Israel360 9 ай бұрын
It would've been better if they put the motor in the rear and connect the engine to the front wheels.
@drive-channel1834
@drive-channel1834 2 ай бұрын
You need a "soul" ? You should daily drive a 1970s Bronco
@peterdyloco7809
@peterdyloco7809 Жыл бұрын
One quick piece of (hopefully!) constructive feedback: I find a lot of reviewers don’t provide more than a surface level NVH readout. Given that you already do the measurements, it might be helpful to include a table to the right with comparable vehicles you’ve tested. Recently bought a Mazda3 Turbo after watching your review on replay so thank you for such great and consistent content over the years!
@Chris.laughton
@Chris.laughton Жыл бұрын
But how to control for variables? Even if he designates a standard course, wind and passing traffic would throw off the result. I'm not sure how any reviewer could accomplish this and have the results be particularly useful.
@peanuts.13
@peanuts.13 Жыл бұрын
It's also subjective, because a lower db with higher pitch can be less pleasant. I'm glad they at least always provide some feedback on cabin noise, which isn't something I can say about others.
@jimc5696
@jimc5696 Жыл бұрын
I had planned to buy the new Touring - but it seems like Honda just went too cheap on a $40k car... I was hoping for AWD. Also, no heated steering wheel, no laminated glass, one seat back pocket? The CRV weighs 400 lbs more, has AWD, laminated glass, and heated steering wheel - yet costs the same??? Is it just me or are others confused by the missing content. $40k is real money and a person can get something much nicer (ES350 no markups now and still have sweet v6 option - and trust me they even include two seat back pockets) if they find a car one year old. I say this as a life long honda fan boy!! Looks like my shopping continues...
@future62
@future62 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need a TLX.
@jimc5696
@jimc5696 Жыл бұрын
@@future62 I would but the infotainment is a few years behind in the TLX... actually, the whole dash looks like the 80's.
@volcalstone
@volcalstone Жыл бұрын
No adaptive dampers too. I use to have a 20 Accord Touring and I did like it for the most part but I wasn't in love with it so I traded it in last year for profits. I too was planning to give the Accord another chance but man they got rid of way too much like the like 2.0T. If I wanted a hybrid I would rather just get the last gen version instead.
@kez850
@kez850 Жыл бұрын
You’re not the first person I’ve seen mention no markups on a Lexus vehicle.. do they have some kind of policy against dealerships jacking the prices up?
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 Жыл бұрын
The E350 starts at $44k base (incl dest) and doesn’t come with any of those things at that level.
@davidcordell914
@davidcordell914 10 ай бұрын
Good job honda. Simple family car that gets good mpgs . Not worried about going fast its a family car. Got a muscle car for speed ,truck for hauling, accord for the family and getting around town .
@markaruski
@markaruski Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another awesome review, all the technical details are great (like describing how the transmission is a 2-motor serial hybrid with lockup mode) and how you show there is no spare tire (but a place to put one) is so appreciated!
@rocksolid1178
@rocksolid1178 Жыл бұрын
I also appreciate Alex for showing the spare tire area! I have not seen another reviewer took the time out to find out if a spare tire would fit in that area. It is important to have a spare tire on long road trips. Hopefully Alex will let us know what spare tire size will fit in that trunk compartment. I hope a 17 in tire will fit since I plan to get the EX-L trim with 17 in wheels.
@killerb5726
@killerb5726 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone mentions how it’s going to be harder to clean near the vents. I thought I was the only one thinking about that.
@rabd3721
@rabd3721 Жыл бұрын
They make dusters that can get in small crevices.
@marquisstrongchild7535
@marquisstrongchild7535 Жыл бұрын
They should at least have made a 250hp version. Even if it was a hybrid.
@MrSamPhoenix
@MrSamPhoenix Жыл бұрын
Perfect comment.
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 Жыл бұрын
The hybrid basically is… 250 instand electric torque will feel similar to 250hp
@kleefton
@kleefton 9 ай бұрын
@@ciello___8307 nope not a chance. The 2.0t is leagues better than this new hybrid in a celeration.
@johnr9528
@johnr9528 19 күн бұрын
@@ciello___8307 Not above 85 MPH or high speed grades
@exclusivelymatt
@exclusivelymatt 11 ай бұрын
Picked up the base Sport Hybrid last month and have put on about 800 miles or so. It's my first time owning a Honda, overall have been happy with the purchase. Has been plenty powerful for my needs and the overall drive experience has been great to this point. Few things to note, though. The gas mileage advertised compared to what I've been getting is night and day. I've been averaging around 35mpg city compared to the advertised 46. On the flipside however, I have been averaging close to 52mpg highway, compared to the 42mpg they rated. I expected some variance there, but just seems way off in either direction. Wireless Android Auto has been a great feature, although it has bugged out a few times. The lack of a charging pad is a bit of a bummer, but not a major inconvenience. If you are a neat freak and hate fingerprints, the piano black accents in the car will drive you crazy. Really don't understand why they (or any manufacturer) continues to use that material. Not only does it look and feel cheap, but they decided to place it around area's you'll naturally touch (near the start button, shifter, and base of the steering wheel). Lastly, it is a shame that this car isn't a plug in hybrid. The more I drive the car, the more it kinda feels this was meant to be an EV, but they decided to make it an ICE Hybrid at the last moment. It's one of those feelings that only makes sense once you actually get behind the wheel. But, at the end of the day it is still a great sedan, very easy to recommend.
@Wisdom_Eqauls_Power
@Wisdom_Eqauls_Power 10 ай бұрын
Thanks matt
@michaelhughett8396
@michaelhughett8396 Жыл бұрын
The Sonata hybrid doesn’t have a 1.6 turbo. It has a NA 2.0 just like the Accord. While mine doesn’t meet EPA ratings either, I am very happy with the Sonata’s features and refinement.
@JitinMisra
@JitinMisra 6 ай бұрын
Alex, no full scores , when will you put full scores ?
@singular9
@singular9 Жыл бұрын
Everyone who is watching this, please go on honda's website on your own and notice how every single actually good feature is locked behind a price tag of 37K+. Anything bellow the touring is pretty much base, its so bare bones it makes a corolla look loaded.
@alex310110
@alex310110 Жыл бұрын
I have the current 10th generation Touring trim Accord. I feel it's quite a bummer not having the heated steering wheel compared to the Canada version. Also, the memory seats don't link the side mirror positions, which is kind of useless. I'm not sure if this has been improved with the 11th gen, or they are still upselling that feature to the Acura brand, but I think it would be an important piece of info to note for later reviews.
@giad117
@giad117 Жыл бұрын
they really cut the lumbar support from 4 ways to only two ways
@Tanktaco
@Tanktaco Жыл бұрын
Good to see Alex Jr in the back seat.
@christianx2k
@christianx2k Жыл бұрын
that front end and front overhang is awful, it needs an emergency refresh ASAP
@Josh-179
@Josh-179 Жыл бұрын
And it's not even on sale yet. 😆
@dtsect
@dtsect Жыл бұрын
Front end reminds me of a 2013 Ford Taurus
@Bear_Arms
@Bear_Arms Жыл бұрын
Only Alex touches on the fact that there is room for a spare tire. I'm sad to see the 2.0T go, but the Accord Touring will still probably be my go to if my TSX V6 ever dies on me. BTW, Alex mentioned the center vents not closing. Most Japanese car brands, apart from Lexus and Infiniti, don't make cars with closing center vents. I always found that super annoying. My TSX has closing center vents, which is one of the reasons I bought it over the TL.
@MrSamPhoenix
@MrSamPhoenix Жыл бұрын
Wait… you have a TSX V6?!? Do you know just how rare that car is?!
@ljpr360
@ljpr360 Жыл бұрын
My ol' 18 Mazda 6 can shut off the rear vents... Just saying
@Bear_Arms
@Bear_Arms Жыл бұрын
@@ljpr360 :-), Mazda actually does have closing center air vents in some of their cars. I know the CX-5 has this feature. The annoying thing with Mazda is that they do not put locks on the glovebox in any of their cars. The other non-luxury Japanese brands at least have lockable gloveboxes on their more expensive cars, but Mazda doesn't include this feature in any of their cars. Even the new CX-90, which is being advertised as a luxury three row, is missing this feature. I would probably never buy a Mazda for this one reason. Every car should have a lockable glovebox.
@Bear_Arms
@Bear_Arms Жыл бұрын
@@MrSamPhoenix It's rare because no one wanted to buy them new, due to the fact that a FWD TL could be had for the same money. I never liked the TL. I preferred the more European like styling of the TSX. I actually waited for the V6 to come out for the '10 model year. I bought one as soon as it came out in late '09. I've been loving the car, plan to drive it until it dies. It is a pretty rare car, I've only seen a handful of V6s on the road since I purchased it. It's just rare though, not valuable. Even today, not many people are willing to pay extra for the V6 on a TSX.
@AmericanBlackKid
@AmericanBlackKid Жыл бұрын
As a 2018 Accord 2.0t owner I was planning to get a 2.0t 11th gen. I am open to hybrids, but Honda’s gets meaningfully worse fuel economy than the Camry. I’m a Honda fanboy, but I don’t think I’ll be buying an Accord again.
@MrSamPhoenix
@MrSamPhoenix Жыл бұрын
Well, I’ve noticed that owners of Honda’s tend to drive in a more spirited fashion vs Toyota owners. This could have a negative effect on fuel economy.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 Жыл бұрын
@@MrSamPhoenix It doesn’t. It’s just a less efficient system.
@larsfrandsen2501
@larsfrandsen2501 Жыл бұрын
Great and intelligent review. Thank you!
@ChaimS
@ChaimS 21 күн бұрын
A note for used car shoppers- as a counter to the Camry, know that it didn't get its refresh until 2025, which means no wireless smartphone connectivity or USB-C ports. Obviously that will matter more to some than others, but it's important to know.
@edwardzdankiewicz9068
@edwardzdankiewicz9068 Жыл бұрын
I am 6'5" and found lots of headroom in this, even with a sunroof. The front seat as a lot of height adjustment.
@a32tl
@a32tl Жыл бұрын
My first Accord was a 1988 Accord Coupe LXi. My last one will be my current 2021 Accord Touring 2.0T. Won’t be buying any more Accords unless Honda chooses to offer a more powerful version in the future. Going from my 2.0T to this weak Accord Hybrid would be a colossal downgrade.
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider Жыл бұрын
I will say this: As a Honda buyer, If Toyota still has their Camry TRD 300hp V6 models, then I’m never going to look back at the pitiful 192hp 1.5T Accord and this 206hp hybrid. I loved the older 278hp 2017 V6 Honda Accord’s and even the 252hp 2018 2.0T Accords that used to win drag races against Ecoboom Mustangs; but if this pitiful 192hp is all they got that’s not a hybrid, then I am no longer on the market for an Accord, and the Accord is dead to me. I understand that not enough people bought these higher hp products, but it’s just sad to see the performance options of V6, V8, and 2.0T disappearing.
@a32tl
@a32tl Жыл бұрын
I could not agree more. I have been driving Hondas/Acuras for almost 38 years straight. Currently have a '21 Accord Touring 2.0T. Honda has forsaken me as a customer when they abandoned performance in this new Accord. Why didn't they drop the 1.5T, make the hybrid engine their entry level engine and keep the 2.0T? I know they're grooming us to go full electric but I will fight that until the bitter end. Bye Honda. It was a swell run but you ruined it for me. I'm sure the new Accord will sell very well to the masses but no one who enjoys a bit of performance will be buying this car.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 Жыл бұрын
What do you drive now?
@user-qt2md2ht3v
@user-qt2md2ht3v Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why they'd purposefully put 19" rims on this car to reduce the MPG on a hybrid.
@jimc5696
@jimc5696 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Touring has the laminated glass to reduce noise (as seen on the new CRV Touring). No mention of this in the official honda release notes.
@PaulVanderKlay
@PaulVanderKlay Жыл бұрын
I always appreciate how Alex remembers the passenger seat. My wife appreciates it. :)
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Alex, What is the point of leg room without head room? <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="442">7:22</a> No wonder sales of sleek, 'swoopy' sedans continue to crater while practical CUVs grab more and more market share. As big as the new Accord is on the outside, the back seat is frustratingly useless for full-size adults.🤨
@webcomment8895
@webcomment8895 Жыл бұрын
They want to shrug their shoulders and say “nobody wants sedans anymore.” It’s a self fulfilling prophecy by pushing buyers away from sedans and into crossovers by making sedans less and less practical with each redesign.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
@@webcomment8895 Exactly!!
@EMHernandez83
@EMHernandez83 Жыл бұрын
I’m keeping my ‘17 V6 Accord until it dies. A shame no V6 or 2.0T in the Accord anymore.
@dforrest4503
@dforrest4503 Жыл бұрын
It’ll last awhile!
@syn3rgyz
@syn3rgyz Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you can start reviewing the driver assists like cruise control and stop and go traffic assist
@slscamg
@slscamg Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure why Honda keeps trying to use a serial hybrid system when theory and real world use have proven a parallel system is more efficient
@Kyriaeus
@Kyriaeus Жыл бұрын
Probably a mix of patents and engineering pride/arrogance. Honda did something similar with their early automatic transmissions where they shoehorned in clutch packs on a parallel shaft layout because they didn’t want to deal with the patents on planetary automatics. The result was their automatics were significantly heavier and bulkier than their competitors’ units.
@remyd8767
@remyd8767 Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with the interior space. 3 inches more rear leg room than Camry and best in class cargo space. The headroom is only half an inch lower than the leader; not a big deal.
@bikingmoments
@bikingmoments Жыл бұрын
Good car but not enough to attract a 10gen Accord hybrid owner!
@cw4623
@cw4623 Жыл бұрын
I'm just here for info on the suspension, steering, NVH. Would love it if Alex could provide more info on all of the aforementioned. He does say it sounds quieter and that it feels firmer than the last gen (the last was FIRM, so I don't know why the hell Honda would make it even firmer 😬). But even more info and some comparisons to other cars/brands would be nice. Is it as firm as TypeR? Is it as soft as a 1980s Lincoln? Is the steering light, overboosted, numb, etc? Or is it heavy, sporty, feels like there's no power steering?
@cprice1
@cprice1 Жыл бұрын
I've heard others say that the steering is slightly numb, but it is customizable and personal settings as far as ratio.
@misaelramos83
@misaelramos83 Жыл бұрын
If you want performance look at Acura, y'all. I for one would love a hybrid EX-L. Just wish the e-CVT didn't 'shift'.
@nikalayeu
@nikalayeu Жыл бұрын
I wish they made a hatchback trunk
@ShamrockParticle
@ShamrockParticle Жыл бұрын
The closest thing would be a CRV. Might be worth looking at
@ethanmoore3774
@ethanmoore3774 Жыл бұрын
I don’t get it, with the 10th gen Honda changed the styling and ergonomics to move away from families and towards a sportier buyer (e.g. higher beltline, smaller windows, less rear headroom) as families have logically been buying crossovers such as the HR-V and really the CR-V. So I don’t get why for this generation Honda decided to alienate that sportier buyer they were targeting. No AWD, and especially dropping the 2.0T and its stepped, 10-speed transmission. It’s a short sighted move in my opinion. They already make the 2.0T and that 10-speed, they simply could have carried it over. They have essentially abdicated sportier market share to the Camry V6 (should Toyota keep it around for their next gen) and the Hyundai twins in their performance variants. And for what, I don’t know a single family or prospective family buyer that actually wants a sedan, they are all moving to crossovers with 0 sedans on their lists. I get the goal, I get the motive, heck I would love more fuel economy out of my 2.0T, but ultimately I, like many other 10th gen 2.0T buyers, love that torque. We loved the mannerisms, dynamics, and power of the 2.0T powertrain. After seeing this model when it dropped, I realized I’m going to be keeping my 2.0T EX-L until the day it dies. This next generation is just a slap in the face to the very buyers they were catering to with the 10th gen.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the sales of the 2.0T just weren’t there to justify it.
@spudtaters8419
@spudtaters8419 Жыл бұрын
It's ridiculous, I have a 2004 accord coupe (2 door) and it is about as cramped in the back as this "4 door" version. WTF. I need to upgrade because the family is getting taller.
@tofubeanz
@tofubeanz 10 ай бұрын
They nerfed the accord because it was to close to the Acura TLX.
@Nitrobucket
@Nitrobucket Жыл бұрын
I would never go back to not having a heated steering wheel. What a strange decision to not give an option
@Billybobthor
@Billybobthor Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It’s a dealbreaker for me. And I was eyeing the EX-L for purchase.
@nostradamus7648
@nostradamus7648 Жыл бұрын
Gee, if only someone invented lined driving gloves. Hmmmmm 😂
@Mrtellitlikeitis
@Mrtellitlikeitis 3 ай бұрын
Its all about less for more money
@spudtaters8419
@spudtaters8419 Жыл бұрын
I sat in the backseat in a showroom and had the EXACT same problem with my head hitting the ceiling. And I'm just under 6' tall, not a giant. Pretty sad, unpurchaseable for a family with taller children.
@billshoe22191
@billshoe22191 Жыл бұрын
Would have been very curious how the Civic’s rear seat headroom and legroom dimensions compared to the Accords. Really disappointed about the Accords interior. Actually think the Civics interior looks more premium. Very sad bout the lost of the 2L turbo engine. I’m guessing They did that to make the Acura TLX seem less terrible. Very disappointed overall in this new generation of Accord
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 Жыл бұрын
Ive sat in both and the new accord is definitely nicer inside. The finishing and molding is more detailed in the accord. Civic is very trim dependent.
@robertporter1984
@robertporter1984 Жыл бұрын
So i guess that leaves the Camry as the only Tru car with a Automatic..The Altima, Legacy & now the Accord
@webcomment8895
@webcomment8895 Жыл бұрын
The next Camry is expected to be all hybrids like the Venza. So, that transmission may be gone in the Camry soon.
@cyclopentadiol2923
@cyclopentadiol2923 Жыл бұрын
Heard the promise of additional apps becoming available in the future before. Stop lying Honda, you're just going to focus on the next model year and software version.
@user-ve5su3kx3c
@user-ve5su3kx3c 11 ай бұрын
I have read on consumer reports that the hybrid drivers seat is uncomfortable. That was the sport hybrid. Here's what they had to say. "The front seats are the car’s biggest letdown: The bottom cushion’s shape makes it feel like you’re sitting in a hole, and the thin padding loses support quickly, compromising comfort on even moderately long drives." Is that also true of the touring model?
@Mrtellitlikeitis
@Mrtellitlikeitis 3 ай бұрын
Yes. Seats suck
@rocksolid1178
@rocksolid1178 Жыл бұрын
HI Alex. What spare tire size do you think will fit in the spare tire compartment if I were to get one?
@Unchainedmaple888
@Unchainedmaple888 Жыл бұрын
The all new 2023 Honda Taurus
@drewski1441
@drewski1441 Жыл бұрын
😆😆...
@danielstehura9657
@danielstehura9657 Жыл бұрын
Still better than a POS BMW Ricky Racer Boy Trash
@nostradamus7648
@nostradamus7648 Жыл бұрын
SHO? LOL 😂
@therealSIRBOOM
@therealSIRBOOM Жыл бұрын
Yep
@bradeschwartz
@bradeschwartz Жыл бұрын
The lack of a heated steering wheel is a deal breaker for me.
@Billybobthor
@Billybobthor Жыл бұрын
Same here!
@shojus
@shojus Жыл бұрын
😂 This car has no seat vibrate for my back, no deal!
@ComenzandoBien
@ComenzandoBien Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why Honda have this approach, more expensive car and less features 🤦🏻no BSM, NO lumbar support standard. WOW
@jeroen_w905
@jeroen_w905 Жыл бұрын
I really the little details like what happens when the traction battery is full and when the brake lights will turn on, most reviewers won't cover this.
@cjc2010
@cjc2010 Жыл бұрын
To me, the car is in no-man's-land with the engine choices and trans. I'd just buy a Civic Hatch or CRV.
@IvanLopez-un9dz
@IvanLopez-un9dz Жыл бұрын
I didn't have my 2020 Hyundai Ioniq PHEV for very long but one of the things I miss is the brake regen paddles. It adds a little engagement in an otherwise straightforward driving experience.
@braydonritzema4179
@braydonritzema4179 Жыл бұрын
I got a 2002 with 109000 on it. Great car, hopefully the new ones are as good as the old one.
@Carfan678
@Carfan678 Жыл бұрын
is that supposed to be a lot? My cars a 2012 with almost 200k on it 🤣
@artieartya
@artieartya Жыл бұрын
Did you buy it new 2002?
@savethemanuals1597
@savethemanuals1597 Жыл бұрын
420k km. On my 13 Accord Sport manual same clutch
@collije
@collije Жыл бұрын
I've heard Hondas and Acuras well over 200k
@freddylara2268
@freddylara2268 Жыл бұрын
Just got my 2023 hybrid Sport L in Urban gray and Red leather seats 😁
@Imurge
@Imurge Жыл бұрын
boooooo. great review my brother but I'm still in love with my 2018 accord with the 2.0 turbo 6 SPEED MANUAL. if i could have one thing from the 2023 version into my 2018 will be the full screen cluster display, other than that there’s nothing else i would change about my car
@1arktek
@1arktek Жыл бұрын
Bring back the Accord hatchback!
@justinlange3214
@justinlange3214 Жыл бұрын
Toyota Prius: better looking, AWD, same 0-60, better gas mileage, panoramic roof. What is the appeal here?
@daves1646
@daves1646 Жыл бұрын
Honda’s serial hybrid is less efficient despite being more like an electric - hope they think about improving electronics efficiency with silicon-carbide based inverter/converters to get them back close to other’s efficiencies!!
@kennglee
@kennglee Жыл бұрын
I just got a Touring in Platinum White. I really wanted the Red with Gray interior, but it just wasn’t available. I love most everything about the car, with one major annoyance. Honda allows you to customize an Individual driving mode, but does not allow you to specify your Individual mode to be the default. How ridiculous is this? You can customize a drive mode, then they make you re-select it every time you start the car.
@mickeybrumfield764
@mickeybrumfield764 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the Honda people will make some recommendations on how to clean the cheese grater sections on their new vehicles.
@reaality3860
@reaality3860 Жыл бұрын
I got rid of my 2019 Honda Accord because it sat too low. I don't think anybody does a better job of car reviews than Alex on Autos!
@rkalla
@rkalla Жыл бұрын
Yea it's nuts how low they are.
@dw8555
@dw8555 Жыл бұрын
Use compressed air (same as used to clean a computer) to clean the vent area.
@yankeex1
@yankeex1 Жыл бұрын
Trunk Comfort Index FTW!!!🤣🤣🤣
@endrickcuyos6965
@endrickcuyos6965 Жыл бұрын
I guess Honda is trying to kill the Accord line up
@kingpin461
@kingpin461 Жыл бұрын
Great looking car there but I still love the previous gen's front end. Anyways, excellent review as always. 👌🏾
@sjewkes1
@sjewkes1 Жыл бұрын
It looked way better last gen. I owned a 2019 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring for 3 years, and it was a gorgeous design. This new one looks more like a Ford/Audi combo. Definitely will not be considering it with that change alone. Great review as always though.
@videoprotectedcom
@videoprotectedcom Жыл бұрын
I'm not paying any amount of money to have visitors at the back seat to be SARDINED!!! on any vehicle. Your videos are always appreciated. Thank you. So call old days, everybody had HEADROOM. What do you think?
@livejay9062
@livejay9062 Жыл бұрын
Didn't notice any headroom issues. I get that it's lacking in comparison to most others in this category, but it has more legroom than any sedan I've sat in since the 70s.
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong Жыл бұрын
It is so dumb of manufacturers to push back the rear seats for a useless amount of legroom and reduce the headroom this way. What's the point of all that legroom? If they mounted the rear seats 1" further forward it would still have enough legroom for everyone (including child seats) and it would actually fit taller people this way bc it would have more headroom if the rear seats were in a position where the roof is higher up. I wish sedans had sliding rear seats. Edit: And the trunk would be bigger too.
@elai3147
@elai3147 Жыл бұрын
because those over 6 feet make up roughly 15% of the population
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong Жыл бұрын
@@elai3147 that's literally a reason why its WRONG what they are doing, you completely missed the point what's better - having legroom for a 7' person but headroom for a 5`8" person or moving the seat forward, still having legroom for a 6'5" person and having headroom for a 6'5" person
@elai3147
@elai3147 Жыл бұрын
@@Mgoblagulkablong you're missing the point, from the perspective of a manufacturer it makes more sense for them to make 85% of the population feel like they are sitting in a limo, the other 15% are negligible, if they're too big to fit honda don't mind them buying something else, as soon as you say "legroom for a 7' person but headroom for a 5'8" person" you are thinking from the perspective of what is the maximum proportion of a person you can fit in that space (and 5"8" is definitely exaggerative, anyone under 6' can sit fine), call them "wrong" all you want but honda does not care about 6'5" or 7' people, look at their sales number they're doing fine, camry sells even more and it's even more cramped in the back
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong Жыл бұрын
@@elai3147 85% NEVER SIT IN THE BACK and would rather have a bigger trunk
@lexluv9
@lexluv9 Жыл бұрын
love your videos keep up the great work and like the Accord but with that being said this has to be the 3rd or 4th video ive seen on the new Accord but in a nut shell to me its Vanilla Ice Cream while most people like it vanilla but with other flavors that put a smile on your face, the Accord has become (for me) vanilla ice cream while its still good and will fill the need nicely....Yawn
@dudethebrojohnson7018
@dudethebrojohnson7018 Жыл бұрын
The low rear roofline is a deal breaker
@guylr7390
@guylr7390 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a Ford if Ford still made sedans.
@katmanjenks1961
@katmanjenks1961 Жыл бұрын
Lame
@DumSpiroSpero864
@DumSpiroSpero864 Жыл бұрын
@@katmanjenks1961 right. Horrible exterior design a copy of the civic interior. They are intentionally trying to kill all the accord one day. Ugly design, poor resale, new excuse to do so.
@jaimemedina702
@jaimemedina702 Жыл бұрын
It actually looks like a Volkswagen 😂
@Magatothebone
@Magatothebone Жыл бұрын
Absolutely man it looks like the Ford Taurus which I had one very reliable hard working car stay away from the CVT thouwhich is hard to do these days go back to a gear Box
@cablebrain9691
@cablebrain9691 Жыл бұрын
It seems as though Honda cheaped-out a bit on this Accord. The non-adjustable seat height/tilt, lack of rear headroom, no all-wheel drive, and the inclusion of interior gloss black, are, in there totality, non-starters for me. It is the best looking Accord that I’ve seen to date, unfortunately that’s just not enough.
@gooyi3123
@gooyi3123 Жыл бұрын
Sad to see 2.0 T engine gone, I think I have to go with Camry XSE
@Jumperman12mac
@Jumperman12mac Жыл бұрын
If I could get pass those hard seats in the Camry's, I'd consider it. But the Accord would still be my choice.
@jimc5696
@jimc5696 Жыл бұрын
No heated steering wheel on the $40k Accord Touring?? Not even available as an accessory part? Seems a better value is to take the $40K and buy a 1 year old BMW 330ix AWD. Honda just left too much off the Touring for the money.
@msmarshall854
@msmarshall854 Жыл бұрын
But then you would own a BMW instead of a Honda. Honda fans are not into that.. regardless of features.
@jimc5696
@jimc5696 Жыл бұрын
@@msmarshall854 I know - I currently own both. BMW ‘constantly’ has their hand in your bank account - and for huge sums. But an es350? Subaru legacy? I’m just wish Honda went a little further in their $40k touring trim. The new CRV touring has more content for the same money.
@msmarshall854
@msmarshall854 Жыл бұрын
I hear that, Jim.
@BullittHilts
@BullittHilts Жыл бұрын
I really like the look of it... but I think it would have been better if they had extended the front wheels closer to the front of the car. Seeing the profile of the car shows that 70's era amount of overhang. I think a lot of people will scrape the underside of the overhang if they have a slight bump to get onto their driveway. Having a longer wheelbase would likely improve the ride as well. I think, considering the poor headroom, they should bring back the Accord wagon and make it have a sleeker rake at the back of the hatch to still give it a sleek look. The silhouette of the Volvo V90 and the Audi wagons look amazing while being more practical than the sedan.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@eddstarr2185
@eddstarr2185 Жыл бұрын
I agree, there's too much Accord hanging out in front of the drive wheels. While the design results in a long hood, all that space would work nicely in the trunk. I never expected the new Accord to get, "That 70's Hood". 😊
@LongIslandMopars
@LongIslandMopars Жыл бұрын
And that's another reason why I'm hanging on to my Acura TSX SportWagon.
@drewski1441
@drewski1441 Жыл бұрын
This new Accord resembles an old school Buick.
@davidc-l9174
@davidc-l9174 Жыл бұрын
Even on this top trim, there's no way to hide that infotainment panel on the far-right (the one that shows audio, compass, or power flow), except in CarPlay? Not even a way to make the built-in nav display fullscreen? That's annoying. And no heated steering wheel, in 2023, in a top trim? That alone might be a dealbreaker for some LOL (me??)
@dannyboy8850
@dannyboy8850 Жыл бұрын
Very disapointing 360 camera and heated steering wheel are not offered.
@swasho2939
@swasho2939 7 ай бұрын
the new 2023 Honda Mazda6 looks great!
@InspectorCallahan.44
@InspectorCallahan.44 Жыл бұрын
Man, the chicken wire air vent is an eyesore.
@dbourke7385
@dbourke7385 Жыл бұрын
I have yet to see the 46 MPG in the city as the most I have gotten is 30
@shojus
@shojus Жыл бұрын
30mpg in the city, that's a lie
@jimc5696
@jimc5696 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the new '2-speed' hybrid trans will improve real world 75mph highway fuel economy.
@MRony
@MRony Жыл бұрын
At those speeds you are only using gasoline engine. So not much improvement on efficiency.
@verynick
@verynick Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="778">12:58</a> I see what you did there. Niceeeeee
@TheQuadrant193
@TheQuadrant193 Жыл бұрын
huge step back
@jerbsherb4391
@jerbsherb4391 Жыл бұрын
Just for clarification, the 2018-2022 Accords have 12 way power adjustment but the downgraded in this new generation? very confusing.
@anthonysheehan893
@anthonysheehan893 Жыл бұрын
I always had Honda, accords civics and two CRVs until 2022 when I leased my 2022 Kia K5 Gt line mainly because of the AWD and an 8 spd auto. I would have gone with an accord sport if it had AWD even with the CVT. Honda wants to upsell you to an Acura.
@povertyspec9651
@povertyspec9651 Жыл бұрын
I want a 0.5 liter one cylinder twin turbo version
@tmoss1994
@tmoss1994 Жыл бұрын
Love the truck comfort index! It’s been clear with the economic downturn that many car companies are getting rid of base models to improve their margins, Honda included (no LX trim CRV, Civic, etc.) I think what frustrates me most is the steep increase in price of the most efficient accord, which would have been the base hybrid last generation at around $28k but is now the EX-L at $33.5k. I wish there was a lower trim or an option to get the skinnier tires/wheels on the sport hybrid. Beyond that, the omission of things like the adaptive dampers, heated steering wheel, and a panoramic moonroof versus competitors is a shame. It feels like Honda either needs to move Acura significantly upmarket, or axe it to give its mainstream models breathing room to be more competitive.
@danielliang7175
@danielliang7175 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, the pressure of the cost increases apply to all manufacturers, not only to Honda. But Honda has been cut corners on all their recent released new cars. Less design uniqueness, less technology, and sliding reliability too. I just don’t see their willingness to compete in this market, only ignorance and greediness.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 Жыл бұрын
Is a heated steering wheel not optional like on the CRV?
@tmoss1994
@tmoss1994 Жыл бұрын
@@afcgeo882 according to the online configurator this morning, nope, not even as an accessory.
@scottmitcheltree4182
@scottmitcheltree4182 Жыл бұрын
Two Honda Accord V6. 2008 and 2004. Nope, on this generation. Still have my 2008. 188K. Runs well. I will wait.
@hellkitty1014
@hellkitty1014 Жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to remember when Honda allowed their top trims to have the top engine WITH manual transmissions! Or their base trims with the best engine and manual. Where is that Honda?? They've always had better than avg dynamics and mostly great quality. And I know that automakers are under the gun to increase efficiency and cut emissions, but Honda sells a boatload of Civics and HRVs to have offset the 2.0Ts f/e and emissions. They literally created a brand new 3.5 V6 in an era of heavy downsizing, yet let one of the best mainstream performance engines go?? I don't get it.
@dobriideneverybody6836
@dobriideneverybody6836 Жыл бұрын
Очень классный Accord
@user-fx6tp3gs8s
@user-fx6tp3gs8s Жыл бұрын
2010 Honda Fusion, with less features, amenities and horsepower.
@theone4042
@theone4042 Жыл бұрын
I like your reviews but I loathe when I see “check back later for official scores” when it takes almost a year to get those. Sometimes it seems never.
@jimc5696
@jimc5696 Жыл бұрын
Will be interesting to see what Alex thinks of the Bose system on the Touring...
@jimc5696
@jimc5696 Жыл бұрын
@@brianroskelly2177 Ok Brian... also let me know how quiet you think the new Accord is at say 75mph (on decent pavement). Say compared to new 330xi??
@rocksolid1178
@rocksolid1178 Жыл бұрын
​@@brianroskelly2177 Brian. I noticed you were there with Alex for this recording, what is the largest spare tire size that can fit into the spare tire area in the trunk?
@antoniocastillo787
@antoniocastillo787 Жыл бұрын
@@brianroskelly2177 What do you think of the Bose system in the Touring trim for audiophiles?
@michaelharrity9795
@michaelharrity9795 Жыл бұрын
Touring for me in silver/black
@davidtay3373
@davidtay3373 Жыл бұрын
Not the "cheese grater" interior dash again. It started out with the Civic, then to the CR-V and now the Accord. I had a chance to see the new CR-V's interior at my local Honda dealer and I can already visualize how much dust will accumulate and the length to keep it clean. SIgh...
@dforrest4503
@dforrest4503 Жыл бұрын
The thumbs up is for the Trunk Comfort Index
@dansanger5340
@dansanger5340 Жыл бұрын
It seems like a very competent car, and a safe choice, if a little boring. Even though it has some modern features, it somehow feels dated.
@plneky1171
@plneky1171 Жыл бұрын
This looks like a nice, bland, commuting appliance. Nothing to stir the blood, but it will get you where you want to be in comfort and safety. If that was the mission for this update, mission accomplished
@webcomment8895
@webcomment8895 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the LX will be a good option if the lack of moonroof is enough to make rear headroom adequate for 6 footers. It seems to have all the basics standard if you can live with a 4 speaker radio and without a power drivers seat.
@jvrdlc
@jvrdlc Жыл бұрын
No heating string wheel???? no way!!! unbelievable .. even the Civic has it and other small sedans.. what a shame!!
@vipul_singh
@vipul_singh Жыл бұрын
This powertrain emulating shifts even when there is no gearbox is one of the DUMBEST things I have seen in my life! This is the height of pandering to automotive journalists, who have constantly highlighted the rubber band effect as a bug, instead of the feature that it really is.
@jeffjo8732
@jeffjo8732 Жыл бұрын
They also killed the push-button shifter, which was one of the best features of GEN10. When combined with the features that automatically shift you into park, and set and release the parking brake, you will almost never have to touch the panel. And when you do, it is trivial to do by touch. But the journalists had a hard time understanding that "R->" means "Just push in this direction to get reverse," even though they apparently had no problems with Toyota's joystick shifters.
@pokerfred68
@pokerfred68 Жыл бұрын
Blind spot monitoring should be standard on every car and Honda only offering on top the trim is ridiculous. Tossing the 2.0T is also a big mistake. While the interior is nice and the fuel economy is excellent, it’s bland. Also no Sirius XM! That’s just moronic.
@shawnwinget2337
@shawnwinget2337 Жыл бұрын
Huh? It's standard on every 2023 Accord except the base model LX.
@pokerfred68
@pokerfred68 Жыл бұрын
@@shawnwinget2337 yeah…except the base…why? Yet they include most other safety features. Ridiculous in 2023.
@long_fellow
@long_fellow Жыл бұрын
Rear seat design seems horrible. What's with the headroom?
@rkr894able
@rkr894able Жыл бұрын
Nice Buick.
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