Magva 1100 VS Madura 1200 Suzuki Madura Honda VF1100
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@RoboLiberty Жыл бұрын
Maduras were only made for about two years due to the fact they were about maintenance free. Suzuki service departments never saw them again. They resolved that issue in subsequent models.
@user-zy3zd3sx2d7 ай бұрын
They came in 700 and 1200 models. I loved the GV1200GL. All except the front brakes weren't beefy enough.
@akio258929 күн бұрын
@@user-zy3zd3sx2d Bah, just have to run a set of quality organic compound pads. Works well on mine.
@kennyhiggins78068 ай бұрын
It was ❤at first sight when I saw the Madura! I worked at a steel plant, and one of our new hires rolled up on her. He was just out of the Army, and wanted to sell her. I bought her on the spot. She only had 2500 miles on her. I’ve owned a few bikes, but this one was my Best Ever!! I’d never even heard of Madura, but pleasantly Surprised! Seating position was excellent, handlebars were just tall enough, and the seat was firm, but soft. The engine was powerful, just loud enough, and very responsive to the throttle! Thank you so much for this video. It brought back many great memories to me. 👍❤🏍
@Adikxx8 ай бұрын
Pleasure to read your comment. I love that bike too !
@crod2165Ай бұрын
Had 2 magna's v65 at different times. Depends who is riding them too. Could launch good with front tire off the ground at times. Bad ass bike.
@gotchagee3315 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this video! I'm so glad to see such a good comparison of these two old muscle bikes. Your bikes are gorgeous.
@dane5896 Жыл бұрын
I had an 83 V65, it was smooth and fast. Great bike, I upgraded the seat, with a Corbin saddle.
@rbiz67Ай бұрын
I still own my 83 Magna . Wanted it since high-school. Still runs like a scalded dog! When I can't ride anymore, I'm willing it to my son! (A hardcore sport bike rider) Maybe then he'll be ready to take it easy ,lay back ,and still twist the wind up! Be safe, y'all ! Respect all! Head on a swivel! And God Bless y'all 🙏
@christophermassi341 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how but I’ve never seen a Madura. I owned a first gen v45 and loved it. Thinking back I feel like I didn’t appreciate it as much as it deserved.
@hectorcrv8 ай бұрын
Hola soy de Panamá y tengo la única Suzuki Madura GV 1200 en todo el país, el vídeo estuvo bueno
@kadirh30243 ай бұрын
Hola amigo, también soy de Panamá... Aún tienes esa moto? Me gustaría verla Bro... Yo quiero comprar una Magna 1985 que vi hace poco en venta. Saludos. Déjame tu IG para seguirte
@FineTuneCBShop9 ай бұрын
Weighing 185 lbs, Desoto Memorial speedway (sea level), 10:17 @ 126 - 1983 V65. Amoco 93.5 gas with a modified intake. The anti-dive front end with the 8-piston dual disks was phenomenal! Nice video.
@texastyrannyresponseteam7947 ай бұрын
I have three v65 Magnas.. an 83, 84 and 85.. I have an 84 V65 Sabre too.. love them honda V4s
@Adikxx7 ай бұрын
Great bikes. Quite collectable.
@jollymolotov5364 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Really that was informative and for people who have never seen either model in real life, it puts things in perspective... thanks guys you rock!
@Adikxx Жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@gutsbikerАй бұрын
I remember Cycle World testing the Madura, they said the Madura rear suspension jacking up and down from driveshaft torque was much more controlled than on the Magna.
@user-br3ou2cs9o Жыл бұрын
V65 was a dream-bike for me. Couldn't afford one at the time between 83-85 but in early 86 looking at the showroom floor I decided to put my money into a new Yamaha VMax and was quite happy.🙂 Your Roll-On results were actually surprising.👍
@supermans50008 ай бұрын
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Magna's power hits hardest in high rpm's. He even said that it revs higher and happier, so I was surprised that the comparison was gear by gear instead of speed
@chadochocincofan857 ай бұрын
Agreed. I've owned 2 V65 magnas. I could start off in second gear and not shift till 90 which catapults you to over 100 quickly.@@smokeystriper
@RogerDiotte23 сағат бұрын
@@chadochocincofan85 F'ya....nice!
@jimmyjolly4283 Жыл бұрын
I had a 83 V65 , I ran tha Hell out of it! I raced everything that I came across, never got beat! I did break the driveshaft at the motor, it cost me a grand for Eddie Hills In Wichita Falls to fix it 😂 I still ride my current bike is a 2018 MT-09 , I would love to have another 83 V-65 if I could find one In good condition, Great video guys!
@willbar19618 ай бұрын
I remember there being a Madura back then, vaguely, but no details. I went through several Hondas from then, V65 Magna and Sabre, CB900F (have had two), and then went bike free for a long time but got back in on a 98 Suzuki Bandit, 01 FZ1, 2000 ZX12R Ninja. That Ninja was very fast. Got off sport bikes and onto a Harley then ended up getting an 83 Honda CB1100F and a 79 Honda CBX and have those three to this day.
@lenfjr1300 Жыл бұрын
My Dad had a 84 magna when I was a kid I want the same one best bike ever in my opinion
@coont-tracker-69 Жыл бұрын
You put a lot of work into this video!
@Adikxx Жыл бұрын
Indeed👈
@garrettsmith8286 Жыл бұрын
This was great! I'd love to see one with a 3rd gen Honda Magna!
@richardknott2021 Жыл бұрын
The burn outs are stupid..risking damage to bikes ..they truly don't respect these machines..
@user-zy3zd3sx2d7 ай бұрын
I called to test ride a 700 and they intentionally had a 1200 ready. I told them I can't ride that big thing and they were like sure you can! My test ride lasted over a half hour when I called (they thought I crashed) and said I'll take it! lol
@adseelt2207 Жыл бұрын
I had a Suzuki Madura in 2000, it was strong, fast, mean and comfortable. There was only one downside, it had a very little tank and used a lot of petrol......Had to spend a lot of time at the gasstation....
@Adikxx Жыл бұрын
Thank you for commenting
@ZackaryMac10 ай бұрын
I had a Madura also, and definitely agree it was thirsty, and had a tiny tank. Useless range if you planned on traveling. But it was fun! Second gear wheelies with a passenger, clutch already out and rolling...just crack the throttle and hang on!
@lenfjr1300 Жыл бұрын
Me and my Dad are going to open a automotive shop in Jesus name and all God's people said amen! My Dad deserves it
@markfischer2472 Жыл бұрын
They must like replacing tires. Nice vid
@Hoprgras9 ай бұрын
My Father owned an 83' Magna (1st yr, only stock bike to make it to the 10sec ¼ mile bracket). I was 24 at the time, but that thang pulled like a monster from 1st to 5th. Scared me, but I loved it! 84 models, Honda detuned them to make more lowend torque.
@Adikxx9 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, it's appreciated.
@allanmcelroy98408 ай бұрын
Oh? I understood it was detuned in general
@Hoprgras8 ай бұрын
@@allanmcelroy9840 it was. 84 was also when they came out with the Sabre v4. The 84 Magna having the 83 power, was going to take away attractiveness from the new bike. Reminds me of those V6 Taurus SHO's were faster than the V8 Mustangs of that time.
@kannermw4 ай бұрын
'83 Magna has only 106 rwhp. The 1/4 mile time posted just under 11 sec. was posted by Pee Wee Gleason a professional rider who I understand weighed a mere 130 lbs 😂. The rider technique, light weight, and abuse to clutch to have achieved that key 1/4 time but not something any average rider could ever do to their bike parked in garage. Where did you get the false information the '84-'85 models were detuned to make more low end torque? They simply lost power due to more stringent emissions compliance. You want that same arm pulling power in a modern bike? A Kawasaki Versys 1000 is about the same weight with slightly more power and torque throughout the rpm range with better fuel economy and way better handling characteristics and comfort. I had graduated from high school the year prior to the first V65 Magna release and fondly remember the tv commercials. Honda had great marketing back then and achieved a new milestone. However, by today's standards these bikes are far from anything special and much more dangerous for inexperienced riders. Per my understanding they will squat when using engine braking due to drive shaft. Use too much late engine braking while entering a corner and the reduced ground clearance will have you scraping valuable bits on the ground and later doing the same to clean your shorts later.
@AlexanderPasechnik Жыл бұрын
cool comparison of rare motorcycles
@mariagrz2158 Жыл бұрын
Pięknie się prezentują
@easy_._rider Жыл бұрын
I fell in love with Madura at first sight, and I still want her. I also really like Magna, and she was my favorite until I saw Madura.
@giorgosgrigoriadis5587 Жыл бұрын
Honda Magna Power Honda is quality
@akio2589Ай бұрын
I own both bikes (and I'm currently looking for a 1st gen V Max to complete my collection). I love both bikes, but each individually. They're different machines with pretty different characteristics. However, one thing the Magna definitely has in its favor (and the reason I tend to ride it more) is that I can still get parts for it. Sadly, it's very difficult to get new parts for the Madura because they're so rare. That being said, I still love my Madura, and plan to keep it going as long as I possibly can. I have an 06 V Star 1100 Classic for when I wanna behave tho lol. It's my best long trip bike by a long shot.
@mrmatt721011 ай бұрын
The straight line performance difference between a V65 Magna and a 1200 Madura was very small. The Magna had a tendency to lift the front wheel if you were not practiced in launching it hard, where as the Madura could be launched rather aggressively without this worry. For what its worth, the magazines of the time claimed the Madura was the faster bike through the 1/4 mile, if but a couple tenths of a second. The V65 Magna was known for having issues with its cams due to a claimed oiling problem, however i never heard of an engine problem associated with the Madura. The V-Max pretty much made both of these bikes obsolete to anyone that was serious about wanting a performance cruiser.
@Adikxx11 ай бұрын
Thanks for leaving a comment
@allanmcelroy98403 ай бұрын
Hmm, they did the speed test with low end grunt. Being DOHC engine design top end test would have been interesting.
@sabre6986 Жыл бұрын
The burning the back tire bullshit really pissed me off ! I had a Magna and two Sabres. That madora couldn't keep up with any one of them in a Canyon. Just to be fair neither could a huyabusa or a vmax. Both of those bikes would Take Me in a 1/4 mile though😉
@ValkyrieRiderIPT Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. Burning the back tire is about the stupidest shit anyone can do.
@user-do1do1it9z Жыл бұрын
Много красиви класики 😍
@mariagrz2158 Жыл бұрын
Wspaniałe chłopaki
@neccron99566 ай бұрын
Correction on the V65. 1. It was build in Ohio. Because Harley Davidson complained to the Government in 1982, the US applied a 45% tariff on any bike over 700cc. So, in 83, you stopped seeing 750cc bikes, and started to see 700cc, and Honda opened a plant in Ohio to make anything over 700cc (also, they made car there too). 2. The Pipes on the V86 are not the original. This ones on it now suck.
@daviddavid5880 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@inch830 Жыл бұрын
Good job
@sokodad Жыл бұрын
Have an 86 V65 which I took out for a spin yesterday.
@brentsmith5647 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video thank u 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@slideglide9418 Жыл бұрын
🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲♥️♥️♥️♥️🌎🌎🌎🍓🍓🤪 I've owned and ridden a 1983 V45 Sabre, a 1986 V45 Sabre (700cc), and now I'm riding an 84 V65 Sabre. It's too bad Suzuki didn't make a Sabre version of their Maduro engine. I had never heard of Suzuki's Maduro up until a few years ago, and have never seen one in person. I appreciate your comparison, Thank You.
@larrycone88212 ай бұрын
My thinking is that the gear ratios may be a bit different. An interesting comparison may be to look at the rpm;s and try to find a gear that matches both.
@1satisfiedmind Жыл бұрын
Nice. I had an '88 V45 Super Magna for a while. Always loved the V65, and in my research I discovered the Madura 1200. Ive never seen a Madura on the road, but have seen some very nice customs on line.
@beecoo66 Жыл бұрын
My Buddy had one, cool bike, I had a 85 Nighthawk S, Performance in town was simular but out on the hwy he would get me.......
@chriswillisko55814 ай бұрын
I own a madura 1200..it's awesome...I also own a Stratoliner and love it as well.
@Adikxx4 ай бұрын
Brilliant bikes. Thanks for watching !
@matscheel30804 ай бұрын
if you dropped a gear and got into the power band they both would do better . i think the magna still would win
@ADN1996 Жыл бұрын
Would've appreciated to see some real and proper races. Especially since you just the magna revs higher. Let it rev.
@AzeezOverseas9 ай бұрын
Where did you get the clear clutch cover for the magna? This will fit right on my super manga
@Adikxx9 ай бұрын
There is a guy in the UK who makes custom covers, i send mine to him for conversion.
@motocyklowywagabunda70386 ай бұрын
Do you have any contact or web site for him, I have Magna V65 and that transparent clutch cover looks great.@@Adikxx
@ericcunningham5147 Жыл бұрын
Yes, this Magna doesn't have a stock exhaust.
@texastyrannyresponseteam7947 ай бұрын
That Macs exhaust on the Magna in your video sounds like crap.. at least through whatever mic you were using.. neither bike sounded good on here..
@Adikxx7 ай бұрын
Indeed Magna sounds crap👈
@andycam1 Жыл бұрын
I disagree on brakes as my engine dose most of my madura braking I rarely touch my brakes
@adrianwieszczycki4690 Жыл бұрын
To ta sama magna ? Sprzed kilku lat?
@Adikxx Жыл бұрын
Tak. 10 lat pod nasza opieka.
@patapouf75 Жыл бұрын
je serais curieux de voir les même épreuves avec l'échappement d'origine sur le Honda...
@adrianwieszczycki4690 Жыл бұрын
Myślę że nie ma piękniejszych kominów niż oryginalne z Magny🙂
@patapouf75 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianwieszczycki4690 et ajuster les jets sur un ancêtre de 40ans, 4 carburateurs, sans ratées... c'est très difficile...
@fifthgearfoodie5272 Жыл бұрын
Full face helmet, gloves, leather jacket but wearing shorts. Ok. LOL!
@moppelruel4 ай бұрын
Never heard about the Madura😮
@darioareviche5316 Жыл бұрын
The 1100 magna need the oil modification kit it is a factory defect
@neccron99566 ай бұрын
The oil mod was needed only for the 83-85. The last year, 86, Honda changed how the heads were oiled. You could still added the mod, but not needed (I do have it on my 84 & 86).
@workingclassperson2124 Жыл бұрын
Madura eats tires in burn outs.
@stephenhourd4653Ай бұрын
And you test ride in ‘shorts’ ? Madness
@achievementsman5725 Жыл бұрын
tbh you didnt gave the magna a fair roll race
@stevemaslow703 Жыл бұрын
why do those stupid burnouts?
@Adikxx Жыл бұрын
Shitty video i know. Apologies for filming those shitty bikes and wasting your time.
@stevemaslow703 Жыл бұрын
I liked the video
@johnmcaleese845911 ай бұрын
@@stevemaslow703 I'm fairly sure there was some sarcasm there. Rightfully so.
@derrickjones1544Ай бұрын
I know my V65magna will outrun alot of old Skool bikes
@richardbailey655911 ай бұрын
The magna will run circles around the suzuki
@Adikxx11 ай бұрын
Everybody is keen to say it but it's not true. They pull about the same. In some cases like high gear/low rpm pulls Madura does even a tiny bit better.
@akio258929 күн бұрын
I own both of these bikes (not these specific ones, but an 84 V65 and an 85 Madura 1200) and I assure you it will not. The Madura is not to be trifled with. They're very different machines, but the Madura will absolutely give the Magna a run for its money, and flat-out outrun it from a dig.
@KG-li7kg Жыл бұрын
Seid ihr noch Kinder? Mit solchen Maschinen macht man soetwas, wie Reifen abbrennen nicht, das kannst mit ner "HD" machen
@aaronw1338Ай бұрын
Madura sounds better by A MILE
@rubo1964Ай бұрын
Didn't see the point of wasting good tires by burn ups.Serously childish
@AdikxxАй бұрын
You also didn't see that tires were old junk and needed replacement. Burnout is the best way to end the shitty tire and we did it having tonnes of fun.
@rubo1964Ай бұрын
@@Adikxx ok cool makes sense now
@fester161004 ай бұрын
Riding in shorts is not safe😢
@Adikxx4 ай бұрын
Yep, it's not at all.
@edwigesextape7254 Жыл бұрын
buy some boots...
@stevefavia2 ай бұрын
The burnouts are a waste!
@Adikxx2 ай бұрын
Huge fun
@bowenbathome3 ай бұрын
the pulls on the bike were BS... You backed out of the Magna before the Carburetors all had the bellaphrams pull the main jets into play. Around 7,000 RPM's to 12,000 RPM's is where you feel the real difference between the 2 bikes. Because of gear ratio differences between the 2 bikes, the rolling test is flawed. Pick a speed and let the driver pick a gear and roll.....
@schzx143 ай бұрын
Performance comparison criteria: most tire smoke and quickest from 700 to 1200 rpm. Never exceed 1400 rpm. Brilliant.
@Adikxx3 ай бұрын
Performance comparison you described would be very strange.. Unless you'd be interested in assessing smoothness of idle or something like that💁♂️ In this video we took those bike from standstill to red line from 1st to 3rd gear on two seperate runs. Then we took them to open road and did another 5 runs to see how they go from given speeds to assess flexibility of those motors from low rpm through to midrange(about 3k rpm to 6k- 7k rpm) In other words we covered both all types of acceleration thus the conclusions we get from your comments are: A) you didn't watch the video in full.. or B)you're sad penis(gotta keep the language civilised) who had a bad day and wants to talk shit for no reason.
@schzx143 ай бұрын
@@Adikxx I watched it in full. But I also have a sad penis.
@antonioserna83529 ай бұрын
😂what do you gainby making the bike smoke
@Adikxx9 ай бұрын
Climate change
@JoeRocket-sf6qs3 ай бұрын
Burn outs with brakes on is cheating,I’m not even gonna mention how I feel bout blocking the front wheels,so lame.
@user-ml1dc6je2w3 ай бұрын
Bull crap , no comparison on the performance, I’ve owned both , magna destroyed the Suzuki, next time do a real test , again I’ve owned both , i kept the magna !!!
@Adikxx3 ай бұрын
I still own both and that was 100% real. How can i make it unreal? Your comment is ridiculous..
@akio258929 күн бұрын
I own both currently. I can assure that what they showed is consistent with how they perform.
@tomakafrankconlon3207Ай бұрын
A couple of fools destroying classic bikes just to get youtube validation.. When they get old they will tell everyone that listens to them how great the bikes were. Sad really.
@AdikxxАй бұрын
I feel i must respond to this nasty comment. 1st - where in this video you saw destruction of those bikes? Are you on mushrooms? 2nd - we didn't have to get old to tell people that bikes are great. We already say that to everyone whenever we can. 3rd - video wasn't made to get "KZfaq validation" but to provide some info about bikes which have ZERO COVER on KZfaq. 4th - if somebody is sad here that would be you as you presented a classic keyboard warrior comment. You would never say this to my face you lame turd. That's really sad !
@tomakafrankconlon3207Ай бұрын
@@Adikxx Lol You troll. That did not take long. There are videos everywhere about Magna's and Madura's. You no speaky English very well.
@tomakafrankconlon3207Ай бұрын
@@Adikxx Aww , do you enjoy deleting responses that hurt your feelings? You sad little cupcake.
@AdikxxАй бұрын
I didn't delete anything you i.m.b.e.c.i.l.e. What mushrooms are you on?
@AdikxxАй бұрын
Guy who starts a conversation with calling people "fools" tells me i'm a troll? You really are on mushrooms ! Once again you i.m.b.e.c.i.l.e - There is ZERO KZfaq videos about those bike where they are properly covered with tech, history, etc being discussed. I'm not talking about videos filmed on the phone, fly by videos or walk around the bike type of crap. Are you really so thick ?
@robmacisaac90114 ай бұрын
Both bikes sound like shit and why would you ever take off the OEM pipes on the Magna and replace with those POS!?!?!?
@Adikxx4 ай бұрын
1. I replaced the OEM Magna pipes as they rotted to scrap and bike failed MOT(or to be precise - it's equivalent) It meant that it could not be legally ridden on the road. New OEM pipes from Honda were discontued so my only option was MAC system which was new and at affordable price. Hopefully this satisfies your curiosity. 2.Magna sounds shit on ANY exhaust,(stock or aftermarket)as it's just a shitty sounding engine overall. Any complaints to be directed to Honda, they built the bike not me. 3. When it comes to Madura and it's sound i'll unveil to you that until now i only heard positive comments about it. You're the 1st person to say that is sounds bad. This means that you're in tiny minority so you're voice sadly becomes meaningless.
@martinquinn33823 ай бұрын
Riding in shorts... this is not very intelligent....
@ThyLiquorАй бұрын
they should have called it the Manura It was extra ugly from any angle.