Honda VFR 800 Service Guide [Oil, Filters, Spark Plugs] 2003 VFR800 VTEC Rough Running Solved | 02

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SPANNER RASH

SPANNER RASH

6 ай бұрын

Honda VFR 800 Service Guide [Oil, Filters, Spark Plugs] 2003 VFR800 VTEC Rough Running Solved | 02
I changed the spark plugs, oil, oil filter, and air filter on my 2003 Honda VFR800 VTEC and solved a problem with the low RPM running.
Oil Filter Socket Set: ebay.us/dgw5cE
VFR800 Spark Plugs NGK IMR9B-9H: ebay.us/JFClkc
VFR800 VTEC HiFlo Air Filter: ebay.us/hFj20C
VFR800 VTEC HiFlo Oil Filter: ebay.us/flrfnr
MOTUL 10w-40w Motorcycle Oil: ebay.us/cVXXI8
I am very pleased with my VFR800, apart from one thing. The engine isn’t as smooth as I expected, and the slow running, below 4.5k rpm, is not confidence inspiring. Having looked on forums it would seem that slow running can sometimes be an issue with these engines. There are a lot of suggested remedies, here is the list that I intend to follow.
Throttle play.
Italian tune-up over a couple of tanks of fuel
Fuel additive to clean the injectors.
Service, although nobody seems to say this is a cure for the low-speed running.
Balance starter valves.
PAIR system delete.
The main thing with the slow running is that it seems inconsistent, in that not only does it feel a little rough, the throttle seems to give a different response for the same amount of twist. So when you are going slow, and only want a little more acceleration, you can’t be sure how much you will get. It’s fine if you just crack the throttle open and set off, but if you are trying to modulate your speed around one of our lovely little roundabouts, on a mucky country road, with a pillion on it can be a little unnerving!
There also seems to be something that could be described as surging, although it isn’t so pronounced that you can really feel it. It seemed worse when you let the motor slow down to around 2 - 2.5k rpm then opened the throttle to increase the speed slowly. It wasn’t quite bucking bronco, but you get the picture.
I knew that the bike had only done around 1000 miles since it was serviced with the book being stamped when it was sold from a Honda Dealer 4 years ago. And over the last 2 years it had only done around 130 miles. The PO said he had also had it serviced when he had the last MOT, which was around 18 months before I bought it, but didn’t have the book stamped or a receipt. And it had only done around 30 miles since then.
Working through my list I adjusted the throttle play, although there didn’t seem to be any obvious issue with it so it didn’t take much. I added some RedX, which is more common in the UK than Sea Foam. Then did a few hundred miles giving it a few fresh tanks of E5, 99 Octane fuel. None of this seemed to make any difference to the slow running.
According to the service schedule, the plugs should be checked at 16000 miles and changed at 32k. This bike has around 23k on it, which is backed up by MOTs and service book so the plugs wouldn’t need changing on mileage, but I felt they should because of the age of them. It has very specific iridium plugs and they are very expensive compared to others that I have bought.
They are reasonably easy to change, but awkward to get at, the rear ones need the tank raising, and the front ones involve grovelling on the floor. :) Using the plug spanner from the Honda toolkit, they came out and went in pretty easily.
To change the air filter that tank needs to be raised, and Honda have made this pretty easy. The air filter did not seem as clean as I expected, so I think that this may have been missed on some of its previous services. But it wasn’t completely blocked.
To change the oil and filter you need to take the left side of the fairing off the bike. It isn’t too difficult but does seem to be an additional faff to get in the way of a service. The oil filter isn’t easy to get at, because it is behind some coolant pipes. Luckily we have recently bought some filter sockets so it came off quite easily. The oil filter was the same brand as the one I was replacing it with, which implied to me that it wasn’t done at the Honda dealer who I would expect to use OEM filters, so it may have had an oil change at the last MOT like I was told. But it definitely didn’t get a new air filter.
Anyway, once I had completed the service I took the bike out for a ride so that I could check for any leaks and the oil level once it was warm. I could tell straight away that the bike was running much better, and as time and riding has gone on it has felt better and better. I have never known a standard service to make such a difference to a bike, or car. The engine is so much smoother and the slow speed pick up is fabulous.
I will balance the starter valves and still intend to look at the PAIR system in the future. But for now I am totally happy with how this bike is running. I just wish I had serviced it a little sooner.
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@jamesrichardson1901
@jamesrichardson1901 6 ай бұрын
Watching the plug change is a reminder that the people who design these motorcycles have probably never actually done any maintenance on motorcycles.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Seems like a reasonable assumption! :)
@JoIs033
@JoIs033 3 ай бұрын
Hahahaha yeah it really seems that way, I have the same bike, same color, mine is a 2003 no ABS, a very dynamic bike love it except 2 things maintenence and it gets absurdly hot when not running at moderate high speed, have to change oil to 15w 50 7100 until I saw just a little improvement but still tends TU spit cooland some times due to heat (I live in México and environment temperature sometimes is about 36 °C)
@martinbakken688
@martinbakken688 17 күн бұрын
Do a PAIR delete. Really makes a huge difference in low speed/ low rpm riding. Great video
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 16 күн бұрын
I bought the blanking plates, and all of the kit to do a PAIR delete. But the more I looked into it the more it looks to be with standard pipes you should leave it alone. Now my bike has settled down from the service, and probably not having been used enough for a few years it runs lovely. The low speed running is fine, even down to 2.5 rpm in highish gears with great pick up when you open the throttle. So for now I do not think I will be dePAIRing, as I don't want to upset .
@Paulmotea
@Paulmotea 22 күн бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 22 күн бұрын
Thank you very much! I do hope it has been helpful for you.
@wezdarsit
@wezdarsit 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant video great commentary I thoroughly enjoyed your walk through guide I have been thinking about one of these bikes for the future great thank you
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, I have been really enjoying the bike, and now the weather is improving I suspect I will put quite a few miles in this year. Definitely worth having on your list.
@jordangraham9533
@jordangraham9533 3 ай бұрын
Yeah very good motorbikes I’ve got one
@chrismurphy4724
@chrismurphy4724 5 ай бұрын
I always fill oil filters prior to fitting. Normally 3-4 times. However, when the fitment is horizontal (like the Viffer) I normally only do it twice. The paper cartridge absorbs the oil and there wont be any spillage when you fit it.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 5 ай бұрын
Interesting, I may give it a go. But TBH filter filling isn't something I ever saw until the last few years. I can see the benefits, but I doubt it makes very much of a difference.
@MrPruske
@MrPruske 2 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH i always have because i dont want aa few seconds of no oil when i start it. did it once and seemed one of my tensioners didnt like it and went out after the change butr that couldve just been good timing
@chrismurphy4724
@chrismurphy4724 Ай бұрын
When you remove the fairing panels, there should also be 3x plastic push clips, 2 holding it to the plastic V piece, and 1 up under the nose cone. These are moved by pushing the middle section In and not by digging them out with a screwdriver as you have shown with the 2 bottom clips, as this will result in them breaking. Just for future reference.... cheers
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I think the bottom clips have been replaced in the past. I hven't spotted the other 3, but I will look.
@garymorgan628
@garymorgan628 6 ай бұрын
New plugs do make a difference ,also the plug leads might have had a bad connection .
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
I have never found them making such a difference. The bike started and idled well, just ran a little rough at low revs. Comments on forums seem to say this is quite common, with a lot of people saying, PAIR and starter valves. Maybe because the plugs are so dear people don't change them as a first stab at the issue. Especially as the service interval is 32k. Maybe the connection idea is a possibility.
@cabovermike
@cabovermike 6 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH Maybe old fuel or dirty injectors , fill it with v power or bp ultimate, maybe a dose of injector cleaner additive,?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 5 ай бұрын
I had run at least 5 tanks of 99 octane E5 along with Redex through it before the service. It had improved but the plugs and filter made the biggest difference.
@Z.mirco46
@Z.mirco46 2 ай бұрын
you can remove just the V in front and you can reach the oil filter from there , i recomand to use the HF204RC , no need to remove the left fairing ever. Great bike
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@daveveryser6811
@daveveryser6811 4 ай бұрын
Go on Boss🙂
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 4 ай бұрын
Cheers.
@user-gn7cm6db2d
@user-gn7cm6db2d 6 ай бұрын
Their has been fake NGK and similar spark plugs on the market in recent years that in itself can cause rough running of the bike your replacement ones are obviously the real deal.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Seems that way, I bought them from a "reputable dealer"! I think the ones I took out were the originals with 23k on them.
@pdx650
@pdx650 5 ай бұрын
Spanner Rash, I am considering, at least, a try on a 6th gen. I've never ridden one before. Started on an '81 CB650 in 1997. An '04 Yamaha V-Star 1100 classic, then my '76 CB750 SuperSport, now a '98 VFR and what you Brits call a 'Pan -European' ST1300.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 5 ай бұрын
Give it a try. I am really pleased with it in virtually every way. Riding position, performance, luggage capacity. Although I am trying bar risers, I am not sure they are necessary, but they are cheap. The only thing that is worthy of mention is the wind from the screen, but I am trying a double bubble. Overall I can't find any reason why I would move on from my sixth gen VTEC, but I probably will :)
@pdx650
@pdx650 5 ай бұрын
Good day. Thanks for replying. When I picked up my '98 vfr , in 2015, it had Helibars already installed on it. A Corbin two-part seat (rider and pillion) was part of the sale, but it had the OEM seat installed when I arrived to buy the bike. There was a three LED volt meter attached in line with the battery. It is mounted in front of the right fork facing rearward, but sill visible while riding. The green LED stays lit when operating the bike normally, but amber comes on with starting and low rpms. Sometimes red and amber when starting. No pillion grab handles, of course. Those are hard to come across. I want to install a Shorai brand battery, but I have an AGM for it right now. I am curious as to which aftermarket exhaust I should install. I still have the OEM can on it since I bought it.@@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 5 ай бұрын
@@pdx650 Sounds like a great bike. I don't know if I would change the exhaust. I love the look of them on my bike. It is a good idea to keep your eye on the charging system, seems that no manufacturer coulld make reliable regulator and rectifiers at the turn of the last century.
@pdx650
@pdx650 5 ай бұрын
I am considering the 'VFRness' R/R replacement I keep hearing about on vfrdiscussion and vfrworld forums. They seem to be a popular choice to go with. One of the previous owners did install a fan on top of the OEM R/R and is turned on when the ignition is on.@@SPANNERRASH
@nearkolob
@nearkolob 5 ай бұрын
The VVTI behaves a lot better with fresh oil. Especially if the valves are worn out.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 5 ай бұрын
Interesting. I was quite happy with the higher speed running, it was the low speed that was an issue.
@nearkolob
@nearkolob 5 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH I have always experienced low RPM issues when Toyota VVTI systems need service. Low power, sluggish throttle response until above 3500 RPM.
@cabovermike
@cabovermike 6 ай бұрын
I would have been sorely tempted to give that engine and airbox a birthday, it would have scrubbed up well,. you think those plugs are expensive, my yamaha OW02 R7 £200/£315,.!
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
I intend to have all of the fairings off and give it a good scrub long before it's birthday. I wanted to make the most of the good weather and get out and ride it. I must admit, I was a bit embarassed watching the video back :) You've put me off OWO2 ownership, plugs for my CB are £15 for a set!
@cabovermike
@cabovermike 6 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH Wait until you buy engine parts for an R7, (if you can source them) cost me £7000 for cylinder head work, and that was buying used parts, titanium valves "not much bigger than 6" nails" titanium rods and sleeveless pistons, and its engine out to remove rocker cover,. eyewatering expense,...
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the warning! :) Maybe I will stick with older stuff.
@patrickhostler5939
@patrickhostler5939 6 ай бұрын
Flipping’eck those plugs are a fiddle 😅
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
I have seen a lot worse. I still can't get over that the tank hinges up :)
@cabovermike
@cabovermike 6 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH Yamaha RD500 did the same , came with a cable to hook it up, it lifted right up out of the way to,.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 5 ай бұрын
I might jiust buy one just for that feature! :) :)
@user-vd2rl9mx3e
@user-vd2rl9mx3e 4 ай бұрын
Здравствуйте. Если не секрет, Ваш возраст? Ваш рост? Мне 64, рост 173, хочу поменять свой харлей девидсон стрит 750х на ВФР 800. Удобно ли будет? Спасибо!
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 4 ай бұрын
@@user-vd2rl9mx3e Мне 65 лет, рост около 183 см, хороший день. VFR800 - большой мотоцикл, но он далеко не такой большой в управлении, как мой Triumph Sprint 1050. Я думаю, что Honda вас устроит, надеюсь, это поможет!
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