I've had both Hondata and Ktuner. I changed because my tuner preferred Ktuner. Great video for newcomers to the 10th gen community!
@thebricknomads3 жыл бұрын
just got a 2021 sport hatchback as my first car
@Konaar97510 ай бұрын
@@thebricknomadsjus got a 2019 civic si coupe as my first🤙
@crank0244 жыл бұрын
ktuner gang for the win 👍
@dusk64604 жыл бұрын
Good information ... but Title subject starts a 3:12 and ends at 15:00. I was hoping for a more in depth look with screenshots from both systems, nevertheless you made good points for someone just starting out. Remember that shops with dynos charge by the hour. If your car is not correctly prepped you will blow your cash having the tuner properly install clamps, fix boost leaks, fix wiring and other issues instead of actually "tuning" your car. If you don't know what plugs you have and the gap they are set to they will have to check them. If your valve cover is leaking oil onto the plugs and wires you are literally throwing money away if you don't fix this before you buy dyno time. Easily half of the time our shop is paid for "dyno time" would cost MUCH LESS in the next bay over. Dyno time is ONLY a good investment when we can make pulls, make changes, and make pulls. We have 6 bays for auto repairs, and one with a dyno.
@geoffkn174 жыл бұрын
Only tired Hondata.......Love it. Sick boost and incredible control over the ECU. Been super happy with my results.
@geoffkn174 жыл бұрын
2016 Civic Base model...love the response from the throttle and the speed gains
@Bbc418 Жыл бұрын
@@geoffkn17 why would waste your time and money on a base model 😂😂
@uri382 Жыл бұрын
@@Bbc418 on god
@roby4h3ll834 жыл бұрын
Those rims are fricking sick dude. I can't get over it. They look SO good.
@lakebreeze62482 жыл бұрын
I'm not a huge car guy, but I've always liked cars. I guess my level of understanding is I know most car parts but don't really know how they operate, I know proper maintenance ect; Is this something I could still pursue with that in mind? What topics should I learn about to make sure I'm doing this with a good baseline knowledge?
@allenmoore75534 жыл бұрын
the reason i prefer ktuner is because you can monitor certain things like knock and oil temps, oil pressure and afr. I just have a cobra cold air and full 3 inch turbo back catless so i have a custom tune from Drob
@Lilwonton64 жыл бұрын
Custom Tuned by DRob too on Ktuner V2. Here's what Derek said about Ktuner pro's: Proper enrichment logic from the start, map switching capability, raised fuel pressure targets to extend the range of the fuel system, actual misfire monitoring. hondata on the other hand he said, "The only thing I'd consider "unsafe" about Hondata in terms of reliability is their lean fueling on FlexFuel files by default, and the backlashing off torque limit tables in terms of CVT life on cars so-equipped." He also stated," I don't work for KTuner or Hondata, and I tune both brands literally all day, every day, for a living. KTuner is the superior means of tuning an L15 currently. If you enjoy limit tables for everything, running out of injection window early (without running the car lean, that is), and incorrect software number flashing, then by all means, use Hondata."
@opadilla1234 жыл бұрын
You can do it with hondata also i have my head unit jailbroke and i see everything
@thefoatmedia4 жыл бұрын
What's funny is you are leaving the decision up to the viewer. lol Good Work! It's simple, if you're not sure ask questions, download the software and get familiar with the interface yourself...and most importantly consult with multiple tuners.
@tonydawn38764 жыл бұрын
Love the content! I decided to go with KTuner V2 because of the live-readings, looks and just overall interactability. It caught my eye very quick as I enjoy seeing data in real-time. Edit: Well, after seeing Derek Robinson comment on this, I have to say, I'm glad I chose KTuner.
@Itz_JayM4 жыл бұрын
I’ve used both so I feel basemap to basemap they are kinda the same. I do like how KTuner has a lot of drop down quick selections. Their software also seemed more user friendly. And overall it seemed to have more capabilities. Where Hondata software is a little tricky to use. My KTuner v1 stopped functioning, which is what led me to upgrade and just because I wanted to see the differences I got a Hondata. However depending on my goals over the next few years I may end up going back to KTuner because as Derek had stated, it really does have more to offer. But for now as all I plan on running for the time being is a basemap, my Hondata is good enough.
@McCknNHashBrown4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I just bought my first ever civic about a month ago. I haven't done anything yet due to warranty but I have been watching your videos gathering information. This one helps a lot! Been trying to figure this out and honda hack.
@nickrios70844 жыл бұрын
Man do what you want to your car that’s the biggest problem with the car community rn!! Have respect for builds we are all doing the same thing enjoying the machine. And if you want to do Forza vids do it bro 👌
@JustCallMeDope4 жыл бұрын
Hondata ftw jk I’ve used both, very similar for base maps, personally stuck with hondata, but ktuner felt like it had more power based on a e85 basemap w/prl race maf.
@yg31654 жыл бұрын
I believe you should go with what your tuner works with and feels better working with i mean is just my opinion.
@gilbertsalazar55754 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, great job man!! I vote yes on the gaming content as well 👍🏻
@curtisfeltis81832 жыл бұрын
Everything is spot on.. Tuners are comfortable with either Ktuner or Hondata… real shit… I’m learning this now…
@donpelton6 ай бұрын
Mad love brother ❤ hondata or ktuner? What you would recommend for me ? 🎉❤
@rexoner20004 жыл бұрын
I’ve wondered for years, I figured if you get an interface my local tuner is unfamiliar with I may just be SOL. Now I know what to do. My 10th gen was totaled got a 9th gen but this is very applicable THX for the content!!!!!
@hondanickx4 жыл бұрын
Ktuner has more options and more tuning capabilities and from a tuner standpoint is the better option yes.BUT it doesn't mean that hondata is shit and would blow up your engine and all other BS people are saying.Tuners will always use the best they can get at the time.Even Spoon is selling Hondata now in Japan for the FK8 and Fk7 . Hondata needs to step up and improve things!
@JLProductions28694 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video I been on fence on which one to buy
@BattleshipStLouis4 жыл бұрын
No Gaming, I come here to see that sweet car!
@wanyabirt4 жыл бұрын
My guy. This is so well put together. Always a treat seeing you post new content. Especially when it’s this well thought out and orchestrated. Glad you could finally clear this up for the consumer man. Well done 👏👏👏
@_YahMez8 ай бұрын
Definitely helpful info, thank you!
@jackwelsh87114 жыл бұрын
Some forza would be a nice addition. Keep up the vids dude 👍🏼
@ps3daa1234 жыл бұрын
I love how the people who are backing Ktuner all banded together and its the same people that always make maximum effort to stay slandering Hondata had to come on this unbiased video and comment. Just based on how condescending these people are, that would steer me away from Ktuner if they really need to defame another company just to gain more market share then that's just bad business practice.
@GoDsSoN7704 жыл бұрын
Sure hope you don't mean Derek Robinson, the most popular and experienced tuner there is for the platform, who actually tunes with both products for a living. He's about as unbiased as you can get lol. Let's forget about the fact that the guy who made this video is clearly biased having only used Hondata. Nobody but James Holy represents Ktuner, as he is the owner and creator thereof. There isn't some conspiracy to slander Hondata, neither is Ktuner paying anyone to do so. Hondata is in fact an inferior product, that costs more for less, and is ultimately not as safe. Hondata gets the slander because they're a greedy, unethical corporation that tries to play on people's emotions, and sell a product deceitfully. People like you (GULLABLE) are the exact reason why the Ktuner crowd is so up in arms, because you simply do not do your research, since you're so easily swayed by the opinions of people that don't even work for, or represent a company.
@preston93443 жыл бұрын
Can I use these tunes for my Civic hatchback as well?
@toxicgamer2835 Жыл бұрын
A car guy that plays car games no way!😂
@jaylakhani55684 жыл бұрын
Woowwww your car is sick. Nice video man. What wheel specs?
@BattleshipStLouis4 жыл бұрын
By the way, what made you pick Luna silver? That's the direction I'm leaning.
@PhongVLG4 жыл бұрын
SugarPimp904 I originally wanted black, as all my previous cars were black. But when I ended up at the dealer, they gave me a good deal on the Si but only had Lunar Silver. So that’s how I ended up with the color. But coming from owning Black cars and now owning this Silver, I can definitely say I am much happier. Paint always looks clean~ can never see any scratch marks (if there are any), and when the sun hits right it gleams nicely! Hopefully that helps your decision haha 😁
@lone2964 жыл бұрын
Got a 10th gen hatchback Sport touring also in silver and damn depending on how the lighting is gives it a different color. Also pictures don't look as good compared to in person
@deerkings3 жыл бұрын
Did you have you Ktuner preloaded with a custom tune with the company. Or did you put everything in yourself
@andrewgalvan22024 жыл бұрын
Xgenz baby! Your so handsome! Coming at you from Guam 😘
@Be2WithTheDirt4 жыл бұрын
Which one is recommended for someone who just wants to improve the performance of their car, and isn't into the major tuning stuff with it? Let's say I just want to buy an air filter and a tuner, and that's all, which one would be better?
@ARichWaffle4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Mehoff hondata I’ve had it for a little over a year and I’ve loved every second of it. I run +6 PSI because of my CV Trans
@DaggerProd4 жыл бұрын
HONDATA GANG !
@lelaush4 жыл бұрын
I’m with it on the gaming
@letitgrowdad52684 жыл бұрын
Well put my guy
@Paladinforthewin_xx4 жыл бұрын
Ryan I’m building a block and I wanted to get Darton Sleeves but on the web site they don’t have anything on L15B7 .... what did you have to do or go through to get your sleeves??? Love you videos btw been here forever bruddah
@sea50232 жыл бұрын
But does any of these tunes harm the car in any way in the long term?
@PhongVLG2 жыл бұрын
Any car you modify will cut the reliability longevity of it, the most reliable a car will be is bone stock.
@sea50232 жыл бұрын
@@PhongVLG thanks for the answer. I know that modifying your car will decrease your car's lifespan about 1 year (like i said just an example) What i meant was, will you run into any hiccups in the first 5k miles after you've installed these tuners. Changed the question :D
@PhongVLG2 жыл бұрын
@@sea5023 Haha no worries, also no you shouldn’t run into issues within 5K miles at all after tuning the car, if you do. It could be due to other modifications. Base maps aren’t powerful enough to cause that type of damage, unless warned otherwise (I.E: Some may cause stock clutch to slip)
@sea50232 жыл бұрын
@@PhongVLG I heard a lot of speculations about tuning the honda. Some say the cvt transmission can not handle that power and eventually break down. They may not refer to hondata or ktuner when they say tuning the honda but i still dont know. Do you think hondata or ktuner is safe overall. Would you recommend it?
@PhongVLG2 жыл бұрын
@@sea5023 When it comes to the base map you’ll be fine if you want to venture any further for power than you run the risk of course.
@lemardogonzalez1575 Жыл бұрын
2017 civic lx n/a 2L engine. Which is better tuner 2.0 or hondata. Basic tune up, maybe up to 220 hp or less.
@totljag12 жыл бұрын
U miss a huge point on the tuners , k tuner needs to stay plugged in and hondata does not !
@ericnelsonnn2 жыл бұрын
uhhh what?
@bobwright8574 жыл бұрын
Plzz drop forza
@ozgur.ruzgar10 ай бұрын
Which one would you recommend for the 2023 model 1.5 gasoline Civic?
@03kwam653 жыл бұрын
I have a CU2 with an injen and catback exhaust still deciding between cant decide🤦🏾♂️
@irrayplaceable18583 жыл бұрын
have you decided? have a cu2 as well cant decide
@robertgraham54864 жыл бұрын
Gee thanks for narrowing it down for me
@puertorico1442 жыл бұрын
Hey guys so I’m a complete virgin to car mods etc. I just bought a 2020 Honda Civic EX 1.5 Literturbo I want to know what I can do to this car to add some speed? Is it worth it or should I leave the car alone ( meaning my car isn’t worth to even tune ). Again I’m a noob so please if you reply just try to keep it as English as possible 😅 Thank you guys in advance! Also thank you for the info on ktuner and hondata. Something I was curious about too!
@djsthemetereman3 жыл бұрын
Nice honda, thx for this vid I'm curious about how much power I can get out of my 18 aspec
@djthecreator17043 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go with Ktuner. Now I have a SI 14 Coupe, the only mods I want to go with are a Ktuned Downpipe Header, Invidia N1 Exhaust and a 3.5 inch ktune intake. What are your thoughts? Should I take it to someone to tune it or do you think Is possible doing it myself with my computer ?
@wowcowzy4492 жыл бұрын
Just bought a ktuner let me know how it’s going I have the same car same year with around the same mods haven’t got it delivered yet so just wondering
@Zero_brandon Жыл бұрын
What rims are those gold rims you have on your car? They're beautiful! xD
@loganliam13193 жыл бұрын
i think its all depend on who is going totune your car.
@adonisbaez84854 жыл бұрын
Rim diameter ?
@fmas96142 жыл бұрын
I have an honda accord cl7 euro r. I was looking at the websites of both but my car is not supported by any of them. Any reason why?
@alexsoto17053 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Honda Civic hatchback sport what tuner will you recommend best for me ?
@Average_CoD_Clips3 жыл бұрын
Good vid brotha I made up my mind after watching. When the 11th gen drops I’m gonna grab a Sport Hatchback. It’s the same engine I think, with maybe a different ecu so the tunes will take some time? I only plan on doing the +6 psi tune once my warranty is ending or when I feel comfortable voiding it, I’ll probably go with Hondata for the discrete aspect, seen some other vids where people had their Ktuners stolen because of the obvious screen on the dash.
@U812b44 жыл бұрын
Great advice ... I agree
@geraldgoodiii69932 жыл бұрын
People are mad crazy about their tuner I’m from the Veloster N platform… but gettint a 10th gen si Anyway .. ppl from the VN community are brutal about their love for their tuner and how every other tuner sucks Now we all know LAP3 is the only tuner to use for a KDM car. Can’t wait to dig into the new platform
@xOneCinema4 жыл бұрын
Nice wheels dude!
@ranielmina64953 жыл бұрын
Hello guys helped me to choose between the two tuner. I got 2020 honda civic si . Which is better ? I really hate the rev hang, it feels me annoying.
@cheenoulee74553 жыл бұрын
Ktuner. I have a 2020 si as well. Buy from phearable’s website and you’ll get a free tune.
@boisey24764 жыл бұрын
Good info.
@TonyStark-ii1rv4 жыл бұрын
Price difference between the two?
@PhongVLG4 жыл бұрын
Tony Stark All products are in the description, but here is the price breakdown: Ktuner V1.2 (without screen display): $449 Ktuner V2 (with screen display): $649 ----------------- Hondata Flash Pro: $690
@sleasy014 жыл бұрын
Which is cheaper and can ktuner go into a ek civic?
@au8224 жыл бұрын
BROO we gotta meet someday, I need help with what to do with my 10th gen Im nervous to touch under the hood because I dont want my block to split :(
@benedictguintu48643 жыл бұрын
I like them wheels, where d’you get them sir?
@jonathanparkhurst10803 жыл бұрын
Ktuner ftw
@jovanihernandez54364 жыл бұрын
Hey phong what’s better flash pro or k tuner
@TH3VID3OMAN4 жыл бұрын
I dont mean to be rude but after watching this video I legit got no info. I understand not being one sided but then it was way to vague. Kinda danced around everything. Shorten the video to 5 seconds next time if you wanna say "both are the same"
@tribaldisturbance5943 жыл бұрын
you could have cut 3 minutes off the front of this video. but thanks for making it.
@changvang71614 жыл бұрын
Does Hondata works on the Honda Civic Sport Sedan 2019?
@TheRealOneEyeGaming4 жыл бұрын
Chang Vang yea
@joseuniverse3 жыл бұрын
Does this work for Honda sport
@ciboto2 жыл бұрын
Greeting what type rims and tire you got on
@cydellemanalili62084 жыл бұрын
whats the size of your rims bro
@abarr6394 жыл бұрын
Skip to 4:30 Takes forever to get to the point. Weak video. But here's a comment. :)
@Haoi12164 жыл бұрын
Ikr dude just talk too much/long to get to his actual point/topic ...
@Zero_brandon Жыл бұрын
bro said um like 10x right after he said he's practicing not to say it haha all good though we all have our annoying word crutches.
@tanksord28814 жыл бұрын
Still playin forza?
@RyGuyTheAVGuy4 жыл бұрын
How can I take you seriously with a wheel setup like that? do you plan on cornering at all?
@clubdredd13374 жыл бұрын
FORZA MOTORSPORTS 6!!
@juki1x3 жыл бұрын
3 MINS and nothing... 5 mins and nothing... Yeah they are the same
@Stormx_3 жыл бұрын
I have a Honda Civic EX 2018 and trying to tune it, which should I get?
@ethansteward54534 жыл бұрын
I think race chip has the best tuner kit 🤷🏼♂️
@royxlt2 жыл бұрын
McDonald's or Burger King?😂
@rblx_murder49244 жыл бұрын
The hondata
@rblx_murder49244 жыл бұрын
I have 1200hp honda
@briana36954 жыл бұрын
@@rblx_murder4924 a*
@stevejriggs4 жыл бұрын
Nay
@richardthomas76714 жыл бұрын
K24 build
@yosammy17464 жыл бұрын
You look hmong.
@komradekoala56484 жыл бұрын
Lol I like how you say guys as if it was just dudes modding their 10th gens 🤣
@BenjaminRosnerN4 жыл бұрын
A four minute lead up to the topic and still not straight to the point. Skip to 4:30 to avoid the lead-up summed as: "Which TUNE solution is (are) best for you." Stop being so wordy, it's okay to say "UHM" if it helps moves you along.
@D35thwsh4 жыл бұрын
Useless
@Heyboaz2 жыл бұрын
HONDATA is the OG, Ktuner is dollar store version.
@arielrodriguez27653 жыл бұрын
Hondata all the way. It’s like Apple vs Android.
@arielrodriguez27653 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the fastest Fk8 running 10.2 in 1/4 mile from PR runs hondata