You're right. I have a secret hidden agenda. In the video, I reverse engineered the nanosVNA firmware to give false results for this antenna. I went out of my way to doctor everything and make it all look so real. It's all part of my master plan to spread false information for absolutely no benefit. I didn't realize someone would come by who is able to read antenna measurements from eyesight alone though, so you've blown my cover. For your wizardly skills, I will pin your comment.

Your results do not correspond with nature of RF. Is that the reason you cut out the frames showing actual process of testing swr on this antenna? There are other videos on KZfaq clearly showing you results of this antenna on nanovna and none is able to achieve what you did with your basic setup and antenna laying down flat. Im not gonna go into details of my own tests and conclusions on this antenna. If you are telling people honest review lets see a proper video of you doing this test again on your nanovna without any rat tails and antenna is flat laying down on your desk. Not even Josh from ham radio crash course could achieve what you did and he made a video about this antenna! Lol 😆

@@ve3xyd I can't make another video because like I said, this is an elaborate fake. I put a lot of effort into making all of this up to give take results for the antenna as part of a secret agenda. It's all doctored up with extreme precision just to fool you.

lmao

Glad you enjoyed the review!

Hope you enjoy!

They are great antennas!

Glad i could help!

Yeah they are great antennas!

20 miles is not bad -- you must have a strong arm! I can't throw them nearly that far....

@@HamstudyOrg You don't throw them. You attach it to your radio.

@@TXLorenzo I knew I was doing something wrong! ;-)

They are pretty cool, but I honestly find myself using my nagoaya still quite a bit.

you'll need it when you get two handhelds

I agree.

Got an FT3DR about a month ago with the bnc adapter he showed in the video, got a signal stick right a way. Next I replaced the bnc sma adapter with a wide base adapter exactly like you described so much better. This video doesn't seem like real negatives just personal preferences.

A Spatha you can’t go wrong with the wide base adaptor. It likes it’s part of the radio and doesn’t look flimsy or weak like the narrow one that screws on does. It’s worth the $10 to get the better adaptor

The FT-3DR would need an antenna with a SMA-M connector. The BF-8HP would need one with a SMA-F connector. (note that the gender of the connector follows the center conductor). Some people choose to get SMA-F to BNC and SMA-M to BNC adapters and then a BNC will fit both types.

I did say do-do 😅

I think i bought the adapter elsewhere. It would for sure be less stress on the connection though. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

I can hit repeaters with my Baofeng UV-5R around 10-20 miles

I was going to say the same, that adapter and heavier BNC connection is adding more leverage, If you get the SMA-M version there shouldn't be anymore stress on the port than what would be considered acceptable. I understand the need for a quick solution if hooking into a mobile setup "that is what I started with" but you can also figure anywhere from 1 to 3db loss through those adapters too depending on the quality and materials used.

Yes it fits the FT-3DR without a spacer.

1 year later what do you think is better, and which one would you recommend, Nagoya 771 or NA-24J or Signal Stick?

@@imeprezime1069 signal stick actually gets better listening range, I tested it out by swapping it on my baofengs and listening to the same people broadcasting from set areas. They're pretty close though, the nagoya is a lot less bulky and feels more professionally made. So there's that.

The problem with analyzing an HT antenna on an analyzer is that by their nature nearly all HT antennas are actually only half of the dipole; the other half is going to be provided by your radio, your arm, your surroundings, etc. Thus when you put it on an analyzer you change the antenna system; when you connect feedline you change the system. When you add an SWR meter you change the system. There are two ways that arguably get a "proper" reading: the first is to reproduce as exactly as you can a "real world" use, such as building an RF choke into an HT-shaped holder and measuring it while holding the radio the way you'd expect; the RF choke isolates it from the feed line and the rest means that you should in theory have a realistic look at what is happening. The trouble of course is that every person holding it will give slightly different results... The other way is to use a RF choke (large ferrite works) at the feed point of the antenna (where the antenna connects to the feedline/device) and then add a wire "tiger tail" counterpoise; this gives you consistent readings across different instruments, but is arguably not "realistic" since it's not the way you'd normally use it. Some HT antennas will have less variance in SWR, but that's not always a good sign because sometimes it means that the antenna has poor resonance and a whole lot of impedance matching -- remember that SWR is only telling you how well the impedance matches up. A dummy load has fantastic SWR, but not much in the way of resonance =] At the end of the day for an HT antenna I always recommend that you just try it -- if it works well, then great. If not, consider a different antenna.

They do, it’s 465hz

I like the bnc connector because It's easy to use with my other products.

Great for some things, less great for others -- use what works best for you! People keep asking me to make longer ones and I'm just shaking my head given how floppy they already are... good for many things, but not all.

I don't think this antenna can handle that, What model HT do you have that will put out 25 Watts? I don't think this would fall under safe exposure levels if you are holding it to your face when transmitting.

@@ModernHam leixen uv-25d

I've never used it in cold weather. It might be an odd property of the metal.

@@ModernHam yeah I believe it’s the crystal structure on the metal

@@benmeyer2916 You nailed it sir. l

@@AlvinMcManus wait seriously lol I don’t remember if my info was accurate especially from 2 years ago

@@benmeyer2916 It is a property of the metal that at cold temps it looses it's rigidity.

The creator has a lot to say about this, so you really should read the FAQ on the website. A short snippet is "hese should be about +6dB compared to typical stock HT antennas" but that really only tells part of the story.

@@fashnek 6dB better than a -20dB stock antenna is still crap, right? it’s all about manipulating the numbers...

That's more or less it, yeah. In "theory" it's probably a bit less than a 2.5dBi gain, and should be comparable to any other antenna of similar length, but at the end of the day it's still a half of a dipole mounted to an HT; any HT antenna is compromising somewhere, so finding the right antenna for your use case comes down to deciding what is the most important. If you need signal above all else I strongly recommend a tower with a solid base antenna on top of it ;-) Seriously, though, the stock antenna shouldn't be nearly that bad, and a good quarter wave antenna (like the signal stick or most other similar length antennas) is a good "standard" gain antenna on an HT; to get much better you need to get really long and do funny things that tend to be less portable.

This is my review after having used it for a few weeks. If you had the antenna you may understand why I talked about the things I did. A review is there for people who haven't used the product to find out the quirks from those who have after all. It's about the material and the feel of the antenna. Hunting with this thing extended out on your hip will basically eventually rip the antenna port off your radio. That's why it's curled up.It makes it usable while mobile.

@@ModernHam I understand what the purpose of your video was , you wanted input I gave it thanks

SWR is highly variable on any HT from moment to moment. They are designed to use your body, the HT itself, etc. as part of the antenna.

Yeah, I get about the same number of people emailing me about how awesome the SWR is that I get about how awful it is... SWR measurements on an HT antenna are just this side of useless, unfortunately.

I did in the next video. This is only a review. Not an in-depth analysis of the frequency resonance.

Chomo