Hornby HM7000 Bluetooth accessory control,
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10 ай бұрынBluetooth HM7000 DCC accessory ‘How to’ for the novice TT120 railway modeller using Hornby’s current ‘DC’ HM6010 system and some of their 00 products.
Some of the Hornby products shown in this video can be purchased here;
R7293 HM6010 App Based Accessory Control prf.hn/l/NJDX1MZ
TT8013 Uncoupler Ramp 166mm prf.hn/l/eYnw8oP
R8243 Surface Mounted Point Motor prf.hn/l/b3nvqZn
R406 Coloured Light Signal (Remote Control) prf.hn/l/5NL0PxZ
TT9004 Settle & Carlisle Signal Box prf.hn/l/1Mb8DB5
TT3001M BR class 08 prf.hn/l/jWVQAZJ
TT6010 12T Tank Wagon 'Fisons Sulphuric Acid' No. 31 - Era 2/3 prf.hn/l/oVRkv3A
TT6012 BR Dia.064 'Toad E' Brake Van, E175712 - Era 4 prf.hn/l/Xv5BNXP
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Other Hornby TT120 products that may interest you;
TRAIN SETS
TT1001AM The Scotsman Train Set prf.hn/l/8xQn5X8
TT1001TXSM The Scotsman Train Set - Digital (Sound Fitted) prf.hn/l/VldBv4n
TT1002M The Easterner Train Set prf.hn/l/QxojJvb
TT1002TXSM The Easterner Train Set - Digital (Sound Fitted) prf.hn/l/yOmkqgA
LOCO’S
TT3002M DB class 08 prf.hn/l/Qx8B202
TT3003M GBRf Class 08 prf.hn/l/0GYZgdY
TT3004M A1 Flying Scotsman prf.hn/l/8xJ8p2Y
TT3004TXSM A1 Flying Scotsman prf.hn/l/PJEB21B
TT3005M A3 Night Hawk prf.hn/l/ZYoB2Xb
TT3005TXSM A3 Night Hawk prf.hn/l/9mJpG0Q
TT3006M A3 Trigo prf.hn/l/A3kolZR
TT3006TXSM A3 Trigo prf.hn/l/b3AmpaA
TT3007M A4 Mallard prf.hn/l/me30OD1
TT3007TXSM A4 Mallard prf.hn/l/LbWnjva
TT3008M A4 Silver King prf.hn/l/5Nqa92m
TT3008TXSM A4 Silver King prf.hn/l/lGWAMD0
TT3009M A4 Falcon prf.hn/l/xnAaMDl
TT3009TXSM A4 Falcon prf.hn/l/GlnabMz
TT3010M Duchess of Atholl prf.hn/l/n0l8zXb
TT3010TXSM Duchess of Atholl prf.hn/l/melEZbv
TT3011M Dutchess of Montrose prf.hn/l/A3kol2O
TT3011TXSM Dutchess of Montrose prf.hn/l/vyb0ajJ
TT3012M Duchess of Abercorn prf.hn/l/yOw5Pkm
TT3012TXSM Duchess of Abercorn prf.hn/l/JzYEDXb
COACHES
TT4001 BR Mk1 Brake Second Corridor E15459 - Era 5 prf.hn/l/DReX9bj
TT4001A BR Mk1 Brake Second Corridor E15468 - Era 5 prf.hn/l/ERYgAZp
TT4001B BR Mk1 Brake Second Corridor E15474 - Era 5 prf.hn/l/0Gb9MPW
TT4002 BR Mk1 Brake Second Corridor E34735 - Era 5 prf.hn/l/jW3OPl1
TT4002A BR Mk1 Brake Second Corridor E34743 - Era 5 prf.hn/l/5NL0WZV
TT4003 Pullman 1st Class Kitchen 'Octavia' with Lights - Era 3 prf.hn/l/MD1B4PP
TT4003A Pullman 1st Class Kitchen 'Plato' with Lights - Era 3 prf.hn/l/kxQyGo3
TT4003B Pullman 1st Class Kitchen 'Zenobia' with Lights - Era 3 prf.hn/l/wzyd4jG
TT4004 Pullman Third Class Brake No. 65 with Lights - Era 3 prf.hn/l/3YVaGNV
TT4004A Pullman Third Class Brake No. 162 With Lights - Era 3 prf.hn/l/0GzEk4P
TT4005 BR Mk1 Composite Corridor E15058 - Era 4 prf.hn/l/20y4pe9
TT4005A BR Mk1 Composite Corridor E15303 - Era 4 prf.hn/l/oVRkvjd
TT4005B BR Mk1 Composite Corridor E15481 - Era 4 prf.hn/l/5NL0eGZ
TT4006 BR Mk1 Brake Second Corridor E34734 - Era 4 prf.hn/l/xnAaD4k
TT4006A BR Mk1 Brake Second Corridor E35335 - Era 4 prf.hn/l/GlnXvl9
WAGONS
TT6001 7 Plank Wagon 'George & Matthews’ No. 5 - Era 3 prf.hn/l/1Mb8nN4
TT6002 7 Plank Wagon 'North's Navigation' No. 3000 - Era 3 prf.hn/l/ZYdGRRN
TT6003 7 Plank Wagon 'Hale Fuels' - Era 3 prf.hn/l/aQGo22A
TT6004 LNER Vent Van, 61996 - Era 3 prf.hn/l/q5WxD9p
TT6005 LNER Vent Van, 727446 - Era 3 prf.hn/l/n0lQaa4
TT6006 BR Vent Van, E156874 - Era 4 prf.hn/l/xnPmazN
TT6007 BR Vent Van, B777345 - Era 4 prf.hn/l/xnAaDdz
TT6008 12T Tank Wagon 'Carless Petrol' No. 10 - Era 2/3 prf.hn/l/xnde3Ed
TT6009 12T Tank Wagon 'Mobil' No. 64 - Era 2/3 prf.hn/l/9mMVxBa
TT6011 LNER Dia.034 'Toad B' Brake Van, 140526 - Era 3 prf.hn/l/meNM0GV
TECH
R7322 HM7000-21TXS: Bluetooth® & DCC Sound Decoder (21-pin) prf.hn/l/A3QqDpn
R7336 HM7000-8TXS: Bluetooth® & DCC Sound Decoder (8-pin) prf.hn/l/A3xbYA5
R7345 HM7000-N18TXS: Bluetooth® & DCC Sound Decoder (18-pin) prf.hn/l/vyAxVYM
BUILDINGS & SENIC
TT9001 Footbridge prf.hn/l/xnPmaXP
TT9002 Settle & Carlisle Dent Station prf.hn/l/oVwmD3v
TT9003 Settle & Carlisle Waiting Room prf.hn/l/dldZlyq
TT9005 Water Tower prf.hn/l/zn5Jnz9
TT9006 Engine Shed prf.hn/l/me30DQv
TT9007 Goods Shed prf.hn/l/8xQn5W8
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@modeloco 10 ай бұрын
Great insight Peachy into these units. Was hoping the latest Hornby TT Talk would embrace the accessory side with its future plans. I’m still on the fence regarding Bluetooth for everything. You’ll see where I’m going once I get one of those gadgets… A Round Tuit 😂
@gregmacdonald927 10 ай бұрын
Nicely worked through again Peachy. These are great wee units. I used one when the hm6000 came out first. Was likewise a bit confused at first about the track connection. In some ways a few of these around the house, with the hm7000 app, and you could control a smart home…! Just a thought😂
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Lol, my wife wouldn’t be happy! 🤣
@ianhughes-zf1ll 9 ай бұрын
Cheers peachy I definitely will be getting one and see how I get on thank you
@davebrooks8033 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic 👍 thanks Peachy
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Cheers Dave. Glad you liked it. How was the sound?
@davebrooks8033 10 ай бұрын
@@PeachyTT120 Spot on mate😊
@ThisWayWorksTWW 10 ай бұрын
This is a great video Peachy for anyone wanting to control the accessories from the App and easy too follow too 👍👍👍 Cheers for the shout out, i do wonder though just how many 6010's can be connected to the App 🤔🤔🤔🤣😁
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Well I’ve got 4 that I’ll be trying later. I’ll let you know how I get on
@ThisWayWorksTWW 10 ай бұрын
@@PeachyTT120 I read somewhere via google searching the number of 48.. i have a hunch 12 x 6010's will be the limit.. Maybe your Hornby friends may know the answer 🤔👍
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
@@ThisWayWorksTWW I think 48 will do for me! 😜
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Apparently it’s limitless! Whoop! Whoop!
@DodgesTT120 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the mention.. I plan to make my video's much better in the future..
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Well you’re stuff inspired me to go look at these units. And you were ahead of the gang using these units 5 months ago! Very well done. How’s the layout looking?
@daveblake9804 10 ай бұрын
Just ordered the hm6010 and surface points problem plugs and sockets ! Love the site
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Excellent! Glad you’re enjoying it.
@daveblake9804 10 ай бұрын
Question how many lights can you run on this unit q2 if I get another unit do they run linked or sperate units
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
@@daveblake9804 you can run 4 lights, or 4 signals or 4 point motors or any combination. The only restriction I believe is you can just run the 1 motor. As for the units they are set up separately, but appear one after the other in the App
@GTyoutube 4 ай бұрын
Great video, I have been looking for this for ages - thanks
@PeachyTT120 4 ай бұрын
Glad if it’s of some help
@IronHorseRailways 10 ай бұрын
All those fancy electronic devices have spoiled you Chris 😂
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Ruined I am… never to use my magic finger again!
@East_Mallingford_Railway 6 ай бұрын
Really useful video and like the detail too as new to hobby good too two versions lol
@PeachyTT120 6 ай бұрын
Cheers Postman
@stevio7777 10 ай бұрын
Flipping heck Peach you’ve knocked it right out of the park for us newbie’s once again. Muchas gracias. The thing is I really want to be able to automate my layout fully using Itrain. So unfortunately it looks as if I’ve got to go and get me a Roco Z21 as the Hornby controllers don’t work to good. You’re absolutely correct in what you say about Hornby not describing stuff, they are abysmal at it. Keep up the good work. Steve
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Cheers Steve, if you’re interested in the ins & outs of Roco Z21, subscribe to This Way Works as I think he’s planning on using it.
@stevio7777 10 ай бұрын
Oh thanks our kid! Brill @@PeachyTT120
@stormbowman7148 7 ай бұрын
You can easily use the HM6010 with any DCC controller (and iTrain). It fully supports DCC with update 1.10.
@PeachyTT120 7 ай бұрын
@@stormbowman7148 🚂👍
@damianinCanadaTT-OO 10 ай бұрын
George demoed this in the Beyond the Buffers video back in May but didn’t really go into detail so your video is great. I’m probably being simplistic but surely the issue with track/bus power with DC is that with a simple circuit of track the power depends on what your controller is turned up to i.e. if you have the power at zero there is no power to your accessory model! Of course with DCC you don’t have this concern as power to the track is constant
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Hello Damion, I’d missed that episode of BTB, I hope mine is of use. Yes, of course how DCC Bluetooth is powered hasn’t been considered till now, hopefully more stuff will become accessible to it soon.
@brat96th 10 ай бұрын
Brief comments here - more detail on your post on the Hornby forum.. HM DC app has an artificial limit of 3 x 6010s. HM DCC app has no limit on number of devices, in fact these work as static nodes to make the Bluetooth mesh more robust. Depending upon power source - DC jack or Track, which can be DC or DCC depends upon the functionality of the device. With DC power you get the basic functions as seen on your video, with DCC power and at latest revision you get the advanced functionality of the R8247 V2.0 device (the innards are essentially the same apart from the added Bluetooth. HM DC app needs an early version of firmware but HM DCC app needs the later version as installed at the start of your video. If enabled in settings you can have accessory control showing at the top of the joystick icon screen along with your locos - these show in a side-scroll ribbon bar same as the locos.
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Excellent info, thanks 🙏
@ianhughes-zf1ll 9 ай бұрын
Must have missed this video Chris but glad I have seen it now seen how easy it looks to go with hm7000 app had seen a little about it on DM stuff the other day between the both of you definitely going to get one but could expensive if you want a lot of points etc. going to look for more videos about it or do they do bigger units ? Thank you
@PeachyTT120 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Hornby only make this version that supports 4 accessories. Still compared to other systems it’s not the most expensive
@pim1234 10 ай бұрын
Clever !
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Cheers
@damianinCanadaTT-OO 8 ай бұрын
TMC had HM6010s on sale. I snagged two of them but they had two remaining last time I looked
@speleokeir 10 ай бұрын
Hi Peachy, you may be interested to know that I emailed Simon Kohler back in February this year about the HM7000 and the accessory unit HM6010 and if it would still be limited to 12 accessories like the HM6000 as this seemed very limiting. The answer I received stated the HM7000 should be able to handle limitless accessories. N.B. I believe PECO have some signals in the pipeline. I'm not sure if they're just semaphore signals or lights as well.
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
That answer is very interesting, thanks. Shame Simon’s not there anymore.
@LarsPW 9 ай бұрын
hmm - but what saves us the unit introduced by your excellent video or what does it make more simple? And a test with a second module would be interesting to see if the app does not mix up the connected points, signals etc. We still need a bus to energize the locos on track even if we let them receiving their commands via bluetooth, the same is valid for the accessory decoders. Bluetooth spares us a central unit to create the DCC-signal if we do not mind to control everything on a touchscreen. Instead we need a constant DC supply with an appropriate overload protection to turn power quickly off in case of a derailment. Bluetooth spares us as well the DCC-address assignment which might be sometimes a bit tedious. But what about train resp. loco recognition at pivotal positions in the layout to support some automation?
@PeachyTT120 8 ай бұрын
👍
@RichardJohnson-ew3dd 2 ай бұрын
Just purchased the HM6000 and very pleased with it. I’m just trying to figure out if I can add a CDU for a below baseboard point motor. Sorry for the newbie question.
@PeachyTT120 2 ай бұрын
What’s the question?
@RichardJohnson-ew3dd 2 ай бұрын
The point motor works fine until I add the actual point and there doesn’t appear to enough power to switch the point.
@johnhinds-m0eou 10 ай бұрын
thank you for your prompt reply can you recomend the new tt120 as i am trying to decide which way to go
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
I would absolutely recommend it. Possibly the easiest way to start is with one of the sets; TRAIN SETS TT1001AM The Scotsman Train Set prf.hn/l/8xQn5X8 TT1001TXSM The Scotsman Train Set - Digital (Sound Fitted) prf.hn/l/VldBv4n TT1002M The Easterner Train Set prf.hn/l/QxojJvb TT1002TXSM The Easterner Train Set - Digital (Sound Fitted) prf.hn/l/yOmkqgA
@johngilbert6765 4 ай бұрын
Hi Peachy. Seeing your advice on using the DCC Concepts power supply, and having suffered a few intermittent power issues, I considered purchasing one. However, DCC Concepts consider them 'unsuitable' since they exceed Hornby tolerances. They said they " don't sell products for Hornby". Since you are using one can I assume there is no significant issue to worry about? Apologies if this is not the correct way to pose this question to you.
@PeachyTT120 4 ай бұрын
Hello John, I’m guessing DCC concepts are covering their backs, & I don’t blame them. I saw some other modellers using them so I asked a couple of tech guys who are members of MERG (Model electronic railway group) and discussed this issue, they advised me that they believe the HM7000 chips have voltage limiters so can easily cope with the 18v supply. And that the unit is a super deliverer of power so it shouldn’t be a problem. 11 months on and I’ve no issues
@johngilbert6765 4 ай бұрын
@@PeachyTT120 Thanks Peachy. I suspected they were being cautious. I have one of the voltage regulators you referred to, so, I guess I could wind the power down. That said, I also suspect that the real solution, particularly to the loss of Bluetooth, is a power bank. However, they are seeming permanently unavailable on the Hornby site, and as an 'elderly new comer' to the hobby, I'm not sure I have the nerve to install as you demonstrated in another video. keep the videos coming, they are very helpful for 'oldies' such as me!
@user-ld6dz8zd8n 10 ай бұрын
Peachy, I’ve several older, smaller R405s that Rich at TWW is upgrading to LEDs. Do you think that I could operate 4 of them on each 6010?
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Don’t see why not, but Rich has gone and bought one of these units so I’m sure he’d be happy to test them.
@ianhughes-zf1ll 7 күн бұрын
Hi Chris hope you are well . Watching this video again cause I’m trying to set up hm6010 and noticed in the instructions you show the wiring shows red green black yet in your video it’s red black green which one should I go for thank you
@PeachyTT120 7 күн бұрын
I think you might be confusing the wiring for the point motor and the signal? Hornby point motor; red/black/green Hornby signal; red/green/black And just to confuse things further… Peco surface points (PL-11) is the same as the Hornby signal; red/green/black. 😂
@ianhughes-zf1ll 6 күн бұрын
@@PeachyTT120 cheers Chris thanks that’s a great help I do have a peco point motor have a few Hornby ones thought they were all broke . Thanks mate things are working now
@PeachyTT120 6 күн бұрын
@@ianhughes-zf1ll excellent
@nickdyer138 10 ай бұрын
how would it work with dcc concepts IP digital point motors?
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Not sure on that one, but if they’re the normal 3 wire job it shouldn’t be that hard to sort. Obviously you’d need to wire it by description rather than colour code & you’d need to check they’re power needs but then 14v shouldn’t be a problem for any accessory.
@damianinCanadaTT-OO 7 ай бұрын
Ok. Tried to hook my two up today. Very excited but the device scan doesn’t find them 😢. Not sure what to do next. The power light is on
@PeachyTT120 7 ай бұрын
Sorry Damian, I’m not sure what to suggest. Have you tried the Hornby Forum? They’re’s lots of clever people on there with a lot more experience than me. Good luck, hope you get it sorted.
@damianinCanadaTT-OO 7 ай бұрын
@@PeachyTT120 I just did and I think I got the answer although I didn’t think it was obvious. Apparently you can’t power the unit direct from a bus that is fed from a DCC controller (in my case a Select). You need a separate DC 15v source or a transformer. I didn’t think that was clear from the instructions or your video but perhaps it’s just me
@PeachyTT120 7 ай бұрын
@@damianinCanadaTT-OO ah, but my video is pertaining to HM7000 Bluetooth DCC which basically means the track power (where I got my feed from) is for all intents the same as DC. As for “traditional” DCC I can’t comment as I’ve never used it, sorry.
@damianinCanadaTT-OO 7 ай бұрын
@@PeachyTT120 sorry to have this whole conversation on KZfaq but it helps my understanding. So I’m using DCC power for my HM7000 as per one of the recommended options from Hornby. You are using straight DC which I now understand it’s different. I think I get it now. I need to power my HM6010 from a different source. Confusing, at least to me 😂
@PeachyTT120 7 ай бұрын
@@damianinCanadaTT-OO 👍
@johnhinds-m0eou 10 ай бұрын
can i ask is tt120 the same as n gauge or smaller or bigger
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Hello john. It’s bigger. It’s almost exactly midway between HO & European N gauge which is where it’s most popular. I think the scales work out like this, British OO = 1/76 World HO = 1/87 TT120 = 1/120 British N = 1/148 World N = 1/160 So smaller than OO but bigger than N
@pim1234 10 ай бұрын
What kind of de coupler is that ?
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
The de-coupler is Hornby’s specific TT120 (see the affiliate link in the description) operated by Hornby’s surface mounted point motor. (Again, link in description)
@pim1234 10 ай бұрын
I hate channels where they don't talk
@PeachyTT120 10 ай бұрын
Some say I talk too much! 🤣🤣
@pim1234 10 ай бұрын
@@PeachyTT120 nah, just right ...
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