As a mental health nurse with 20 years clinical experience this whole scene is quite embarrassing. The threshold for sections under the mental health act, which I assume this is, is very high. What's clear with this lady is that whilst she is very well presented, and appears to have capacity, she isn't able to retain what anyone is saying. She doesn't appear able to weigh up information, and make a decision. She likely lacks capacity, as per the Mental Capacity Act. The asbestos comment is a bit odd and alerted the hospital staff to make further investigations. Hospitals are snowed under so generally don't follow people into the street. Therefore, having a dozen people surrounding her trying to reason with her is more likely to traumatize her, rather than lead to a return to hospital. She is unable to reason based on the footage, is scared and likely quite unwell. Whilst sounding archaic a more assertive approach and swift return to hospital whilst not a good thing is likely to lead to a better outcome. This should have taken five minutes rather than been allowed to develop into the circus it did, which is a complete waste of resources and bad for the ladies mental health.

Fucking masks, 3 years in 😂😂

It'll never get better if you picket! Since when, during the last 3 years, were the NHS worried about people's mental health and wellbeing?

So why has that head nurse got a mask on in the street when nobody else has 🤔

'Go with the policeman, nothing bad will happen'. Worked a treat for Sarah Everard.

Using mental health as another control weapon ? No theyd never do that 😮

Absolutely no need for the security goons to be there.

Lady is fine . Don't go to the hospital. They just want to give you 5 boosters

I can't believe the security guards have any jurisdiction outside of the hospital.

Those ZOMBIES wearing face nappies are embarrassing

So I can't get a hospital appointment for love nor money but they'll happily spend hours of their time dragging women off the street who DON'T want one?

Bless that lady. No need for all that

Those private security vultures should be caged in the scavengers section along with the other animals in the Churchill House Zoo.

You can be put under a care order if you know too much. A frightening state.

She shouldn't go any where near the police FACT .... STAY AWAY FROM HOSPITALS!!!

Charlie, you bottled it.

She's more likely to be harmed than helped in the "healthcare" system.

12:20 how many times does she have to say "NO" before it's harassment? 72 times, apparently

Massive overreach from the state. NHS are under enough pressure as it is without trying to force someone to be treated when they don’t want to. Without cameras I’m sure she would have been dragged away and probably sectioned, all because of opinions of a misguided nurse. Dangerous times

Private security blocking her way preventing her from leaving = false imprisonment.

What's this country come to when a person is surrounded and corralled by security because she's made a decision of her own free will. This country is the pits. She's far more "with it" than the hundreds of crack addicts that roam the streets... don't see the police trying to get them help in a hospital. This situation reminds me of the summer of 2020 when people were being accosted by police and medical staff for nothing more than a sniffle.

Imagine if you wasn't there filming that. The way they were surrounding and following her was very scary and intimidating

Misuse of the Mental Capacity Act will have happened here. Someone I know went through the same thing. Didn’t consent to treatment, got threatened with being sedated, feared for his safety and left. 2 hours later he had police threatening to kick his door in. Said under the Mental Capacity Act he had no choice but to go back. That Act is designed for the dementia patient walking around in their nightwear or the guy so drugged up he’s a danger to himself. Shouldn’t be used in general medicine.

The NHS makes me sick to my stomach.

Having 5 hospital security is far too heavy handed and scary. Why couldn't they just move off and allow the 1 cop and the 1 nurse to talk to her in comfort?

Why are 5 male security guards stood around her embarrassing her is she really that much of a risk

Charlie needs to be careful messing with the staff at these hospitals or during the next interaction, he might suddenly find that he has been placed under a care order.

Until 2020 I fully trusted nurses and the establishment. Now, sadly, they have lost that trust and it will never be regained.

Trust the cop ! WTF

Why are people still wearing masks outside now? Can't imagine they all have COVID?

Why are they still wearing the silly muzzles?

Don't trust the copper

And there is a example,all the private security , a nurse, wandering around Manchester, taxpayers money being wasted

Any one notice the hospital tag on her wrist? I think shes done a runner with her bags and nurse has duty of care called security and followed her because sh wasn't fit to leave.

The poor lady's mental anxiety probably wasn't helped by the fact the nurses and hospital security guards had their faces covered whilst they were outside 🤷🏻‍♂️😷🤤. I hope she got the care she needed 🙏🏻

She has every right too refuse treatment and that nurse is acting unethically IF she is coercing a patient, rather than as an advocate.

you are right Charlie. Those security goons in gloves need to move on. they are intimidating her.

Why has the nurse got a face nappy on?

Chris Veitch - When the lady requested from you that she needed help to attach her bag on her trolley, but you remarked you had to go because you had another appointment to attend. Then you stand there continuing the video 😂😂😂 so much for morals and social media profiteering 😂

"Trust the cop... Nothing bad will happen." LOL!

How many people died in hospital over the last 3 years ‘who needed to be in hospital’? This is disgusting

if she hasn't been sectioned then there just bullying her surrounded by brown shirts

The police are self-harming themselves with those masks. And why are they still wearing them?

TBF they could start by taking the masks off to be more human if they "care"!

Charlie, FFS, please tell me you were JOKING when you said you cleaned your camera lens with a PAPER TOWEL !!!!!! paper towels are made from crushed wood mate, they'll scratch your lens B4 you know it !! Carry a small MICROFIBRE CLOTH 😊😊😊

I feel so bad for this lady. True or not, she was scared. She didn't trust anyone and she was being surrounded by people in public. She needed someone to trust desperately. I just imagine my mum in this situation and I'd furious with what is happening. This should have been handled much better and more dignified.

She seems very OK and articulated and making sense so why are they hassling her? All they're doing as CV said is escalating a mental break down!!

Love your sentiments towards that lady Charlie....love, kindness and compassion are the greatest medicine for all. Bless you CV. The real thing that needed sorting is the pretend Plods ganging around her . That was just a show of force. The complete opposite of love, kindness and compassion. Yet another example and symptom of the madness that society is becoming consumed by 🙏. Peace and love to lady

That poor woman I hope she's okay ❤

12:40 she was just assaulted by those security guards = SURROUNDING IS TREATENING, and can be considered "Assault"

Trust a cop 😂😂😂😂😂 David.& Wayne said the same

It is disgusting that a member of public seeking medical help for obvious chest issues should be treated like this. And being a registered nurse myself, i would find it hard to give good reason for a bunch of goons to chase my patient away, as an advocate she should be in the patients corner, not the camera mans face. How sick is a society that forces a young woman to trust a total stranger with a camera, rather than a policeman or nurse? The lady displayed not one bit of mental health issues, her argument was entirely logical, so no Psychosis, paranoia or delusions. So, she was singled out because her cultural view of medicine is different from a white nurses view? Which of course makes it racism through the back door. Nurse, shame on you. And the rest of you goons.

Clearly an extremely dangerous shopping lady, a significant threat to herself & most of Manchester. More security, law enforcement & medical authority peeps obviously required. Probably needs the armed forces, coast guard & god knows what else to attend as well to be safe, can they get HMS Safesure (type 42) up the Manchester Ship Canal?

Asking the police to stop lying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this lady is a comedian.

love when Charlie backs up people getting harassed

Absolutely despicable treatment of her for absolutely no reason

We're only protecting you from yourself, now come with us.

Nurse in a mask on the street , that will calm the situation ! No need for masks at all .

I don't think surrounding a woman with security guards, especially if she has mental health problems, is a good way to respond.

Charlie loves the tryanny. Free to leave hospital in Liverpool,Free to enter hospital in Manchester and free to leave. Had enough of NHS dictates in the 3 years.

Those security guards were itching to go hands-on.

Well played Mr Veitch. The policeman should have told the hospital goons to go away to enable de-escalation. (I hope the 'Hope' Lady is, or will be well).

The masks.... THE EFFING MASKS! 😵‍💫🤯🤡

Well done today Charlie....I feel like your were in the right time right place....just your presence of been there changed the hole situation...well documented situation...👍👍

Hope things work out for you Lady ❤️

I doubt the hospital security staff jurisdiction extends out onto the public street.

The lady got more right than most of the security guys because it seems most security guys are foreign nationals and they seem to make the laws up as they go. Poor lady WTF.

Charlie so much for helping the public 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

poor poor show charlie, the content for your video asks for help getting a taxi and you hit her with "oh im busy, i gotta go". Practice what you preach

Clowns are still wearing masks ahahaha

this would have been a whole lot different had you not been pointing a camera i suspect.

Whether this lady was under a care order or not ,it must of been quite intimidating to be pursued and surrounded by all these uniformed people. All credit to you Charlie for handling the situation with tact and diplomacy.

So Charlie Veitch actually believes nurses go out into the street to abuse people's rights? It never occurred to him that this woman may need medical care. Christ almighty! This guy has the mind of an infant.

Charlie Veitch, are you: 1) A psychiatrist or mental health nurse who can diagnose this woman & rule out mental health disorders? 2) A toxicologist who can diagnose poisoning or gas imbalances that cause this sort of behaviour? 3) A neurosurgeon who can request an MRI scan to diagnose a bleed on the brain that can cause erratic behaviour in sufferers. 4) A pulmonologist who can diagnose and rule out respiratory diseases or disorders that would cause confusion and agitation in patients. 5) A haematologist who can diagnose and rule out any blood toxicity or imbalance that would cause sudden confusion, anxiety and agitation in a patient. 6) An A&E consultant who has access to this woman's medical records and who carried out an examination and can therefore decide whether a treatment plan and possible hospilisation is requited. If you answered no to any or all of these questions, keep your f*@king nose out in future.

How to make a difficult and tense situation, (which you know nothing about), even worse by interfering.

the cop was glad you were there to be honest lol you did his job for him, poor guy looked scared to talk lol

So many standing around educated by the book but not much movement for being educated in the heart ❤️

What is concerning is security on the public streets.

Charlie, all the police and security attention was bad enough, but the Prime-Minister in a Harry Potter beanie??? Definitely OTT!! Although I do applaud Mr Sunak for being a man of the people here! 😉👍 Joking aside, I hope this lady sorts it out. Clearly somebody in the hospital has her best interests at heart I am sure. Just a shame it escalated to this bless her. 🙏

The whole situation is so very sad. If indeed this lady is in need of mental health support, then trying to deliver it like this is awful. I felt that she was scared and her capacity to retain information and weigh information up was greatly diminished by her fear and anger caused by this situation.

That woman seems totally fine

The upload grind is real 💪🏻

I believe Veitch should be prosecuted for this. He hindered professionals and delayed that woman's treatment. nurses don't just follow members of the public into the street for fun. the woman looks far from alright to me. The nurse is the only one there who has access to her medical record. Veitch had no business sticking his nose in. Many medical problems cause behaviour like this. I've seen people walk out of resus who would die if they didn't return to continue treatment. Drugs can cause behaviour like this, infections can cause this behaviour, a hypo will cause this sort of behaviour, low oxygen saturation causes confusion and stress. I can't believe an adult would see a nurse and police with an agitated patient and start banging on about her rights being violated. His tone says it all. he thinks it's all a big joke. Well he's toying with people's lives when he starts pulling stunts like this. Grow up Veitch. You're a far bigger menace than to people you target. I'm no fan of the police or the politicians but anyone with a working brain can see this is a woman who needs help.

This will happen to all of us who speak out against the Government.

I saw a video Charlie of someone with a camera taking shots of a building. That is all it was. Suddenly people from within came out all aggressive and surrounded the chap, they were very hostile. Apparently, they were looking after vulnerable people yet decided to leave them all alone inside to accost an individual taking photo's of buildings. I imagine the vulnerable people inside may have become alarmed and stressed because of these peoples actions. These people became very angry and I think one of them called the police over a few photos the chap was taking. It really made no sense to me. They should have stayed with their clients, customers, patients, what ever they are and closed blinds perhaps and then sung some happy songs. But instead, they left all the vulnerable people inside to create mayhem and fear. I wonder what transpired when they all went back in only to realise all the vulnerable inside that had not noticed anything were all rattled. How long did it take these fools to calm down their vulnerable clients after creating such a pointless and needless drama. Can't be good for those inside being there for their wellbeing. Such a shame. I can't find the link to the video but a lot of people have seen it 😜

Very interesting that the NHS security are OFF their premises/ boundary. NOT ALLOWED

When was this??? Why are these so called 'professionals' still wearing masks. Even got them doubled up!! The mind boggles

breaking the Nuremberg code AGAIN

Taken against her will, that's kidnap

The biggest question is. Why are people wearing mouth mask in Britain?

She seems 100% normal to me. she's not a scientist, but that's no reason to lock her up

Security clowns 🤡 & I hope the lady is okay 👌 Thanks Charlie 👍

I'm sure you filming the whole episode made the situation better. Sometimes you need to mind your own business.....

Poor Lady, them security Men need sacking. Giving off a Bully vibe, no smiles, just intimidation tactics, what a country this is turning out to be.

Too many people surrounding that poor lady, cop should of told them to return to their property, it was causing her more stress

I disagree Charlie, hospitals ARE the place to go if you want to end it, attending should be seen as self harm. Just ask Matt Hancock

The police have to deal with this every day. Hats off to the cop. You are correct, his hands are tied.

they think we're all crazy once they hear our accent in Manchester haha

This was hard and upsetting to watch. My own son has been under a care order for severe MH issues in the past. The medical team and the polices hands were tied with this one. My own son would exhibit total denial - sense of persecution (not saying it was the case with this woman) but I saw something similar in my son. In the end being detained again his own free will saved his life. Such situations are very difficult to judge and assess. Poor woman I do hope it all turned out well for her.

It's almost like charlie and smart guy was surprised to learn he didn't know the whole story.