Oh my god, that is so sad T_T wtf

And they actually fought in many battles. Roddy the ruin is an absolute legend .

I mean. That's his job

@@LifeisANovelyeah? And he did a great job. He and Emma D’arcy are being called the standouts of the season.

@@Redfield982 I don't dispute that. But they're literally doing what they're supposed to do. Do you expect less?

@@LifeisANovel I mean, yes? When someone praises an actors’ performance, by definition it’s because they did a better job than you were expecting. Nobody fully expected Heath Ledger’s joker, or Anthony Hopkins’ Hannibal to be as good as they were, either.

@@Redfield982 to be fair I always liked heath ledgers. Didn't expect him to play as a joker though. So I stand corrected. I agree lol

I’m hoping the tapestry continues to weave to reflect up to date events.

He's unlike Joffrey in this one episode. But let's not forget that he raped a handmaid in the first season. And he's the same guy who had illegitimate children in the city who were amongst the children of the fighting pits. He may not be Joffrey, but he's definitely Joffrey adjacent.

Joffrey was a C*NT. Aegon has to lose too much besides otto and alicent's approval, his son in order to go full Joffrey or Ramsey.

Didn't use protection with Alicent 😂😂😂😂

*Older men everywhere

Not from the Night's Watch... he was talking about men at Winterfell... Stark soldiers. "Too many winters" means they're well up in years.

@@bill.godwin-austen *men from all over the north

No he did not. It was all about buying people's affection and love, which is all he wants. He was just trying to give people what they want to get their admiration. Once again without thinking about the reality, his responsibilities, or possible consequences. His "caring about the smallfolk" thing is only about finally getting love and admiration, like the one he experienced from them at his coronation, nothing else.

@@adk7165 like his father he is a people pleaser. That being said, I would rather a king who gave me things because he wanted to be seen as a good king, then a tyrant who denied me things simply because I was lesser than. And caring about the opinion of the smallfolk i-even out of self interest - is no mean feat in itself. Especially from a spoiled, young king. Joffrey didn’t give a shit how the smallfolk saw him, that’s why he slaughtered them with such ease.

If he cared about them he wouldn't have taken part in child fighting pits.

@@WLDB Baela also attended the child fighting pits. If that’s what the people in Fleabottom want to do, Aegon’s just a drunken frat bro who went there. It’s not like he orchestrated them.

@@WLDB You saying like he made them fight each other lol

Who could blame him...I would have been caught slipping defending the royal chambers myself

Imagine that was a chainsaw massacre...far too loud. But this is not "DOOM" though. 😅

Knowing the traumatic effect it had on us from only the sounds in what we know is a TV show, imagine the effect it would have on Helaena herself "in world"! She is already somewhat fragile, she will be totally emotionally destroyed.

And a lot of people online wanted the book version which was way way worse. This was more than enough. As a parent I definitely didn't need the book version.

​@@WLDB I do think they should have stuck with the whole "double-bluff" aspect of Helaena's choice, that does remove a dimension from her character development IMO and I'm not entirely sure why they removed it. But on the rest I agree.

​@@kingjames846He knew there was NO WAY IN HELL that a couple catspaws could take on Aemond and kill him! I totally agree he recommended they kill one of Aegon's boys!

​@@kingjames846 read the book

They bumbled their way into that room and acted surprised that the little prince was there. I don't think Daemon ordered this. If he had, they would've acted differently. Not defending Daemon if he DID order it, just not convinced yet that he did.

​@@mamaseesa3122I don't think he "ordered" it, per se, but he knew a couple catspaws armed with daggers would be no match for the Greens' foremost swordsman so he made an alternate "suggestion..."

@@ForgottenHonor0 they said Daemon said son for son. Nothing to agree with and lets not pretend like it's not happened before like when the karstarks killed the 3 boys before in GOT.

And it is used to describe Vhagar in the book.

I thought it was Robb. o.O

sounded kinda like jon snow to me

Also Aegon II

​@@mackmitchell94Lmao no.

​@@rahimg6842Lmao yes

@@rahimg6842 Yes, what he will do next, he will surpass Damon more than once.The series will show it.

I would not include Margor and Daemon in this list

How to say you didn't read the book without saying it. Aegon's heir was killed in the book too. Maelor (the youngest) died later

The whole murder occured because he was not at his post. He was supposed to be outside Helaena, not inside Alycent.

A careless people pleaser ? Sure he wouldn't be a tyrant but don't get a head of yourself that scene doesn't prove he'd be a good king.

Book fans stop being annoying challenge

Luke's death was not her fault there was no reason for her to assume aemond was going to be a storms end nor any reason to believe he'd kill Luke given he was just a messenger , the whole reason they send dragons was a show of strength and to be more convincing it was a good idea aemond just ruined it .

@@thatoneblackdude3333 That's the problem right there. You can't have it both ways. If she is the Queen then as a ruler/leader, you have to take into account ALL possibilities which include Aemond being there or even if he is not there that Lord Baratheon might side with Aegon and have Luke detained as leverage. The point stands. A dragon was faster but a raven was safer. It would have cost Rhaenyra NOTHING to send a raven. The buck stops with her. A ruler must take accountability.

@@trini_staple accounting for everything doesn't mean assumption random shit to happen she can't account for shit she doesn't know about she's not omniscient , he's not going to detain a messenger that doesn't make sense rhenyrea had no reason to assume Luke would be in danger, the plan wasn't the problem hindsight is 20/20 there was no way rhenyrea would know aemond would be there or that he'd be evil enough to commit kin slaying the one of the most evil things you can do in this world bottom line its ridiculous to blame rhenyrea for something that was out of her control.

@@thatoneblackdude3333 Now you sound silly. YES you have to account for everything but you may not be able to so you account for ALMOST everything. Was there a possibility that Team Green would be trying to sway Lord Baratheon to their side? YES a high one. It's highly possible that Aemond could be the person they sent. YES. He is a prince who isn't married and Lord Baratheon has unwed daughters. Does he has an axe to grind when it comes to Luke. YES. A Queen HAS to account for that. And unless my memory fails me, Baratheon asked Luke what offer he came with, which means he was most likely on the fence and wanted to choose the side he profit the most from. As far as Luke not being detained, the world of GoT is based on real history and even within the world GGRM made, ASOIAF, there are traitors, backstabbers & oathbreakers. There are people who did things other people didn't expect them to do. Lord Baratheon might have been loyal initially but he might have realized which way the wind was blowing ( a male heir is more acceptable to the people ) and decided to switch sides. A queen HAS to account for that. There is NOTHING you can say that will change my mind because the point stands. If Luke wasn't there it wouldn't have happened. It would have cost Rhaenyra NOTHING to send a raven. ZIP, ZILCH, NADA

@@trini_staple idk why your so insistent on blaming rhenyrea for her own sons death what happened was completely out of her control and there was no way for her to plan around that your being ridiculous this is like blaming alicent for Cole killing beesbury, you can't prevent something you don't even know is going to happen it's unreasonable to blame rhenyrea for these events because there was no way she could have predicted any of this .

Same!!

And his first wife..and that servant to fake Laenor's death.

I don't see him as completely evil. Y'all remember Jamie Lannister? The dude that many people loved but in case you forgot PUSHED A CHILD FROM A TOWER WINDOW AND HOPED THE FALL WOULD KILL HIM? Yeah, defend that and then tell us we can't defend Daemon EVER. GRRM is the king of writing morally grey characters. What I see is both Daemon and Aemond being the same. They both act on their impulses. Aemond did, and Luke died. Daemon heard Rhaenera and immediately started planning his sneaky way into the castle. He wasn't thinking about whether or not these dudes would be able to kill Aemond - and for all we know, he though Blood could handle him with the element of surprise and Aemond being asleep. 🤷‍♀️ B&C didn't look for Aemond very hard, they just wanted to get out of there with a head and get their money. It looked as if they didn't care which prince they killed, they just went for the first one they saw. Does that mean Daemon told them to? Maybe, maybe not. We didn't hear him say to go after the child as plan B. If he did, sure, let's hate him. But I would rather wait and see his reaction when he hears the news. My prediction, he didn't say to kill a child, he left it open ended and vague, and they did their bumbling idiot thing, to which his response will be something like 'well that's not what I said, but too late now' and shrugging.

​@@kingjames846 he ordered them to kill aemond not the kid but im sure he saif a son for a son he didnt specify.

Oh, come on. If Rhaenyra wins, she still has to kill Aegon's children. So Damon does her dirty work for her

Helaena did not deserve that. Nor did Jaehaerys. What was Daemon thinking hiring those idiots to kill a very skilled fighter who would’ve easily turned them into blood and cheese. That was not revenge. That was just dumb.

​@@garlantyrell6368Also they asked what to do if they don't find Aemond then Daemon gave them that little smirk, he probably told them to go after Aegon's son.

Lol..... not even close..... the show would be equally thrilling without him..... aegon, aemond, rhaneyra etc are much better

I’d say Daemon and Aemond but I’ll have to say Aegon was very entertaining.