This episode was 🔥

The battle is obviously what dominates conversation but the rest of the episode was really good too. Daemon’s visions, Alys’ proper character introduction and the uncertain weirdness that comes from her, Aemond effortlessly showing superiority over Aegon with “their” language he barely speaks, Larys and Alicent, Alicent seeking the prophecy in old books, Aegon’s fidgeting in the council, the backlash to Rhaenyra from her council over last week, Rhaenys realising who Allyn’s father is, Lorent Darklyn learning his father was dead, Sunfyre being so happy to see Aegon and Aegon showing genuine happiness to see him, all of it is just SO good. There’s not a single bad scene in this episode and while E2 of this series had better scenes, this is up there with S1E 7 and 8 as the absolute peak of this show’s content. I couldn’t be happier with it.

It's being exciting seeing the show extending what was written about it. The quality is amazing, far better than the final seasons of GoT. I hope for a couple more of seasons escalating this plot. And it's going to be sad once it finishes... But I'm loving HotS so far.

The CGI was very good and I could see which was going on unlike another episode that happened in the dark.

I really enjoyed it, they did a fantastic job of showing the horror of what those dragons do to a battlefield; and they had so many little moments for characters that showed the humanity in them and the tragedy of this brutal war. Also really loved the dragon fight and how they'd grab on to each other and dive and claw like how raptors fight in the sky.

Aegon should have abdicated or refused the thrown and used his riches and Sunfyre to flea to Essos and parade his Golden Dragon as a peaceful show. Instead he and Sunfyre are in torment.

My dog does the same.

It was a wonderful little scene, hoping we get to see Aegons and Sunny's bond as the show goes on

The only thing in the world that genuinely loves Aegon🥺 Can’t wait to see Aegon rewards Sunfyre by feeding him “a Valyrian delicacy”.

Or when they meet again

Here is the Challenge from Allaah and His Caliph, Imam Mahdi, to the Researchers of the Lie of Artificial Womb Studies to Produce Human Offspring and Carry Fetuses Instead of Women. They Want to Misguide You While Knowing They Are Incapable of Creating Such a Thing. They Know They are Lying to Undermine the Muslims’ Mental Faculties in an Attempt to Misguide them Ideologically Under the Name of Scientific Study "And I say, Glory be to Allaah the Great, the lesson is clear in the eggs that were fertilized by the man's sperm. Return the eggs to the mother's womb so that they can grow. Although the eggs are fertilized it only remains to return them to the mother's womb for their growth to be completed. Even after returning the fertilized eggs to the mother's womb, is it possible, O Allaah, for all the fertilized eggs to grow? Since the doctors did not create the eggs or the sperm-Glory be to You Allaah-You are the All-Knowing Creator. Is there any creator other than Allaah, the Glorified? The fertilized eggs with the man's sperm are returned to the mother's womb using a tube, hence they are called test-tube babies. The fertilized eggs are returned to the mother's womb to grow by Allaah's permission after the woman ends her menstrual cycle; then the eggs are extracted from the woman. So, has the process become guaranteed that the embryos will grow in the mothers' wombs after being returned, or only what Allaah has decreed to grow will grow, and the procedure fails without scientific explanation? And the answer regarding the fertilized eggs in the wombs, even if the egg is fertilized by the man's sperm, Glory be to You Allaah, we bear witness that nothing grows in the womb except what You have decreed and we firmly believe in this. Therefore, we are convinced that even if the eggs are fertilized, it is all up to Allaah. He decides what develops in the wombs, even if the eggs are fertilized. Despite that, many procedures fail, and some succeed by Allaah's permission. The scientific reason why some procedures succeed while most fail, despite the eggs being fertilized, remains unclear to them. Ultimately, Allaah decides what develops in the wombs as He wills. Anyhow Allaah's answer is: {يأيها ٱلناس إن كنتم فى ريب من ٱلبعث فإنا خلقنكم من تراب ثم من نطفة ثم من علقة ثم من مضغة مخلقة وغير مخلقة لنبين لكم ۚ ونقر فى ٱلأرحام ما نشاء إلى أجل مسمى ثم نخرجكم طفلا ثم لتبلغوا۟ أشدكم ۖ ومنكم من يتوفى ومنكم من يرد إلى أرذل ٱلعمر لكيلا يعلم منۢ بعد علم شئا ۚ وترى ٱلأرض هامدة فإذا أنزلنا عليها ٱلماء ٱهتزت وربت وأنۢبتت من كل زوجۭ بهيج ‎﴿٥﴾} صدق الله العظيم [سورة الحج] Qur'an - Surah: al-Hajj - Verse:05 O Allaah, there must be a proof for every claim, so what is it that we challenge with the atheist proponents of artificial wombs, who claim to create artificial wombs to carry fertilized eggs instead of women? I will leave you the answer from Allaah, the Exalted: {خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ بِغَيْرِ عَمَدٍ تَرَوْنَهَا ۖ وَأَلْقَىٰ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ رَوَٰسِىَ أَن تَمِيدَ بِكُمْ وَبَثَّ فِيهَا مِن كُلِّ دَآبَّةٍ ۚ وَأَنزَلْنَا مِنَ ٱلسَّمَآءِ مَآءً فَأَنۢبَتْنَا فِيهَا مِن كُلِّ زَوْجٍ كَرِيمٍ ‎﴿١٠﴾‏ هَٰذَا خَلْقُ ٱللَّهِ فَأَرُونِى مَاذَا خَلَقَ ٱلَّذِينَ مِن دُونِهِۦ ۚ بَلِ ٱلظَّٰلِمُونَ فِى ضَلَٰلٍ مُّبِينٍ ‎﴿١١﴾‏‏}صدق الله العظيم [سُورَةُ لُقۡمَانَ]. Qur'an - Surah: Luqman - Verses: 10-11 Also, Allaah the Exalted said: {قُلْ مَن رَّبُّ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ قُلِ ٱللَّهُ ۚ قُلْ أَفَٱتَّخَذْتُم مِّن دُونِهِۦٓ أَوْلِيَآءَ لَا يَمْلِكُونَ لِأَنفُسِهِمْ نَفْعًا وَلَا ضَرًّا ۚ قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِى ٱلْأَعْمَىٰ وَٱلْبَصِيرُ أَمْ هَلْ تَسْتَوِى ٱلظُّلُمَٰتُ وَٱلنُّورُ ۗ أَمْ جَعَلُوا۟ لِلَّهِ شُرَكَآءَ خَلَقُوا۟ كَخَلْقِهِۦ فَتَشَٰبَهَ ٱلْخَلْقُ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ قُلِ ٱللَّهُ خَٰلِقُ كُلِّ شَىْءٍ وَهُوَ ٱلْوَٰحِدُ ٱلْقَهَّٰرُ ‎﴿١٦﴾} صدق الله العظيم [سُورَةُ الرَّعۡدِ]. Qur'an - Surah: al-Ra’d - Verses: 11-16 Beware, O Muslims, that you believe in the success of contradictory studies challenging Allaah's established challenges in the clear verses of His Book, the Great Quran. Rather, we say to the atheists by the Lord of the worlds, what Allaah has commanded us to say in His Book: {هَٰذَا خَلْقُ ٱللَّهِ فَأَرُونِى مَاذَا خَلَقَ ٱلَّذِينَ مِن دُونِهِۦ ۚ بَلِ ٱلظَّٰلِمُونَ فِى ضَلَٰلٍ مُّبِينٍ ‎﴿١١﴾} صدق الله العظيم. Qur'an - Surah: Luqman - Verse: 11 The truth is they know they cannot do it, and if they could, they would have created the most beautiful children in the world for themselves , giving them the most beautiful forms and they do this to artificial fake dolls. Do not be misled by their claim of a scientific study; they know they cannot achieve their false so-called scientific study. They know they cannot, and they only present it as ideas, before its success, to the Arab media to be announced through Arab channels to mislead the Muslim peoples from the clear verses of the Qur'an under the guise of a scientific study. If they were truthful, they would not have announced their scientific study until it succeeded in reality. Then they would announce their success to the world with clear proof that Muslim submitters to Allaah would see it in actual reality. In line with the Word of Allaah the Exalted: {هَٰذَا خَلْقُ ٱللَّهِ فَأَرُونِى مَاذَا خَلَقَ ٱلَّذِينَ مِن دُونِهِۦ ۚ بَلِ ٱلظَّٰلِمُونَ فِى ضَلَٰلٍ مُّبِينٍ ‎﴿١١﴾} صدق الله العظيم. Quran - Surah: Luqman - Verse: 11 They only want to misguide Muslims regarding what Allaah has revealed of challenges in the clear verses of the Great Qur'an under the pretense of a scientific study, which is still just idle talk. The Arab media provides their people with news of these false scientific studies, and they do not hold back in spreading falsehood to deceive their people with lies and slander about the study of artificial wombs. So listen to and understand this challenge with truth: Allaah challenges them through their scientific study to make post-menopausal women bear children if they are truthful. That would be a miracle defying the laws of nature. Women do not bear children again except by the miraculous power of Allaah, as in the case of the wife of the Prophet Zakariyah (Zachary) with the Prophet Yahya (John), in line with the Word of Allaah the Exalted: {ذكر رحمت ربك عبدهۥ زكريا ‎﴿٢﴾‏ إذ نادى ربهۥ نداء خفيا ‎﴿٣﴾‏ قال رب إنى وهن ٱلعظم منى وٱشتعل ٱلرأس شيبا ولم أكنۢ بدعائك رب شقيا ‎﴿٤﴾‏ وإنى خفت ٱلمولى من وراءى وكانت ٱمرأتى عاقرا فهب لى من لدنك وليا ‎﴿٥﴾‏ يرثنى ويرث من ءال يعقوب ۖ وٱجعله رب رضيا ‎﴿٦﴾‏ يزكريا إنا نبشرك بغلم ٱسمهۥ يحيى لم نجعل لهۥ من قبل سميا ‎﴿٧﴾‏ قال رب أنى يكون لى غلم وكانت ٱمرأتى عاقرا وقد بلغت من ٱلكبر عتيا ‎﴿٨﴾‏ قال كذلك قال ربك هو على هين وقد خلقتك من قبل ولم تك شئا ‎﴿٩﴾‏} صدق الله العظيم [سورة مرۡيم]. Qur'an - Surah: Mariam - Verses: 2-9 So that did not happen except by a miracle defying the physics of a woman's nature, as she does not bear children after becoming menopausal and reaching the age of infertility except by a miraculous power. So, if they cannot make post-menopausal women bear children again, how then can they bring about a greater miracle by creating artificial wombs to bear babies instead of women, despite their inability to make post-menopausal women conceive? Do you not understand, O Muslims?" Imam Mahdi Nasser Mohammed al-Yamani 22- Dhu'l Qi'dah - 1445 AH | 28- June - 2024 AD Full Official Statement: Mahdialumma . com

He was also drunk af

Ahh, I was trying to find a mention of it in the books. That said, I believe it was only skirmishes on the border - certainly nothing like a full scale dragon war. ~ Tim

@@HelloFutureMe yeah that’s fair. An impression I got and i feel like you could pick up from Cole is that like yeah dragons shouldn’t exist or at least be in war, this is just even for fucked than normal war. No one can do anything.

@@HelloFutureMeyeah he fought asa foot solider for a year against the dornish incursion. At least that’s as much as the show says. Obviously no experience leading armies or with any dragons involved. I belive all that experience would come from aemond who as we know is very well read, and understands the impact of dragons in battle

​@jacobwillis7596 The dragons represent high-powered nukes that's just been entered since the conquest into hand to hand combat. This is something new for everyone, including the dragons with devastating consequences.

​@HelloFutureMe they did put 2 towers to the torch along the boneway. I think this warpath is probably more familiar and comfortable to Cole than anything has been for him in a long time.

Your comment gave me such the moment of nostalgia. Community/public tv ❤

Those are always the best documentaries

I think the problem is (as another animal lover who finds herself crying over the death of CGI constructions) that while your rational brain is fully aware of the fact that nothing you’re seeing is real - it’s all pretend, and the dragons aren’t even actors like the horses onscreen are - that doesn’t stop the part of your brain that interacts with fiction going “big scaly friend, nooo!” It’s like if you engage with fiction in good faith (i.e. not one of these insufferable people who smirkingly go “uh, you know this is fiction, right?”) the dragon being scared or hurt hits your emotion centre before it hits your rational one, so by the time you start telling yourself it’s silly to be upset it’s too late, you’re already upset.

Lol, that's what I thought.

She is forgiving Alicent for the things she will do in future. Remember, almost anything Helaena says is somewhat of a prophecy.

I completely agree, Aegon was such a compelling character

@@anishkasharan9952he’s still alive

I thought it was clear that it was Meleys reading her mind and basically assuring her that they were in it together. We've seen a scared dragon, and Meleys didn't look it. Even Caraxes just fled when he was in pain and didn't want to fight anymore.

That was meleys saying "should I turn around and die because we were suppose to a few mins ago" And the answer was "yup we changed the scene enough go for it"

I thought that 2nd to last look at Rhaenys was Meleys letting her know she knew Vhagar wasn’t done and they were about to die.

​@@suzukisixk7Stick to the books mate.

To me it was “we tried, I’m sorry, goodbye”.

6 was the best season. Only two out of the top 5 rated episodes were in seasons 1-4. One of those is the red wedding which is number 1 for pure shock value let's be real. GoT haters have nothing but cope, nobody would have known about this stuff without HBO....because it was an unfinished mediocre fantasy story before they got ahold of it. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

@@suzukisixk7 man. bait used to be believeable

@@suzukisixk7 uhhh ok? Have a nice day.

Except the scene. That definitely should've resulted in Rhaenyra's capture.

@@user-ti5cw1ug6l you mean the scene that should've resulted Daemon to be captured? or do you mean the scene in s1 where Daemon and Rhaenyra should have been captured when they snuck out of the red keep

Aemond, after a rough begginning, seems to be managing his own just fine.

​@@alvarogabrielaguirregarin3933 Cause he had so control over what happened to Lucerys right ?

@@thehermit8723 He is improving

nah, uncle iroh would look at soooo many of these characters and go "they're crazy and they need to go down".

There is a fan theory now that Visenya could have trained her for sneak attacking after her sister died by a scorpion in the First Dornish war.

Except she can be a sneaky girl, I’ll explain the reasoning behind it. Due to how slow she is, she can’t really outpace a dragon in a fight, she has to compensate for that by using ambushes and sort of guerrilla dragon tactics? I dunno like just being sneaky and denying the enemy their speed advantage. Now I know you’ll say “But she is too big to be stealthy”, which is a fair observation but there is actual real life proof to Vhagar being stealthy. The Tyrannosaurus Rex, which was a large beast, one of the largest carnivores and animal hunters of its time, was an ambush predator. Contrary to popular belief, T-Rexs were actually very silent creatures, they didn’t roar, and their footsteps based of fossil evidence would have never shook the ground nor made any noise. For how big the creatures were, you wouldn’t even hear them coming until they were in your face, which is why they were one of the deadliest of its time, their senses and ability to ambush it’s prey, not really because of its size. Vhagar is literally a big ass flying dino lol, so it is very plausible to be stealthy despite her size. Her massive wingspan also allows to glide much more effectively than any other dragon, thus making much less noise as she wouldn’t be flapping her wings.

​@baron6588 I'm so glad I'm not the only one using the Trex comparison!!😅 People wanna shit on Vhagar simply because she's on the Greens, but nobody wants to accept that after 180 years of life and consistent war, she'd learn a thing or three!? This is the mount of Visenya Targeryen, the war queen, and has been ridden by dozens of great riders like Baelon the Brave. Vhagar is more clever and effective using her size and experience than a lot of people wanna give her credit for.

It’s for the plot

apparently that's her move. spot you from below then intercept mode 😄

Aemond "Certified Anime Villain" Targaryen is great.

The problem with this is that he has his sword unsheathed at all... He was in an area where there were no soldiers to be put down from wounds only person there was Aegon and his dragon who was already dead

@@Forestwidow Dragon ain't dead, it was breathing, same as Aegon. Albeit I'm 70/30 on whether or not he wanted to murk his brother, there are many good reasons to have an unsheathed sword when approaching a 10 tn fire breathing lizard which is wounded and scared. He saw the dragon is completely KO and sheathed the sword. Also if he wanted to kill Aegon, since he's got the head resting on towards right side of the screen it makes no sense to approach him brandishing the sword as Aemond does, towards Aegon's feet. Probably I'm reading too much into it tho.

@@Forestwidowif he’s wandering into a forest by himself during a battle, it makes sense for him to have his sword drawn. And then when he finds Sunfyre, and sees nobody else is around, he begins to sheath his sword

@@internets6501 thing is the enemy were all in the castle so no the enemy wouldn't be in the forest

@@baradinvaros7159 to be fair we already have material on why his sword in unsheathed in the books he very much considered murking his brother and hasn't kept it hidden in the show he wants to be king and the episode talks about that parallel with daemon and Aemond

I'm so glad they're leaning into, rather than away from, the fantasy aspects this time around.

That “human form” comment from Alys is the HoTD version of “half a million in cash” when Walter said it to Hank in Breaking Bad.

You think Daemon didn’t love Laena? You don’t think the fact that she died in Pentos because he insisted on staying there is part of this guilt he needs to address?

​@@jacobsquare4812 This is why I always say that HOTD is more ASOIAF than GOT

@@browniebattercup I have no idea what he felt about Laena, we didn’t see enough of their relationship to get an idea of what their dynamic was, only what they were like after ten years of marriage. They seemed happy enough I guess, we’re lead to believe Daemon liked her well enough and was content with her but didn’t truly love her. But we have nowhere near enough evidence to tell us one way or another. But she didn’t die “because he insisted on staying,” she died because of medical complications, that would have happened either way as just like Aemma, he knew there was no saving her. Now, could he feel guilty because she asked to be with her family and he didn’t let her have that? Sure. But that then leads into asking why is he thinking about this now? Harrenhal torturing him with Rhaenyra is perfectly obvious, there’s a lot of stuff currently going on with her that he is currently thinking about and feels guilty about. But Laena? Is he really feeling so guilty about that one request he denied her that almost ten years later he’s still as plagued by that as what’s currently happening with Rhaenyra? I very much doubt it. It would make far more sense for him to be seeing Rhea Royce than for him to be seeing Laena tbh.

Sorry to ruin it but dragons bond for life, so if Seasmoke is back and flying around Driftmark either Laenor has returned from exile secretly, or he's dead and the dragon went back to its home :( I'm worried it's the latter 😭

Yeah vhagar is a beast. She's strong, durable and Intelligent, her battle iq is top tier. I love how she didn't shoot fire at Meleys like sunfyre did, instead she snatched Meleys leg and broke it. Then attempts to drag meleys down to the ground, Vhagar knew meleys wouldn't be able to take flight again if her leg was broken.

Yeah, Criston is the only character who actually saw combat when he razed Dornish watchtowers along the Boneway which earnt him his knighthood. I think Tim’s point is valid about dragon combat but definitely not combat overall for Criston.

If I remember right, it was only border skirmishes with the Dornish, not a full scale dragon war. But yes, he does have *some* experience. ~ Tim

@@HelloFutureMe yeah I was on to nothing

Yeah, they’re really doing Harrenhal right with this show. GoT made it just feel like another military outpost.

@@hollandscottthomas To me it's about scale. Harrenhal was creepy in Thrones most of the time we were there but it always felt like we saw the same 4-5 rooms so it didn't feel like the monster of a castle we know it to be. Daemon's fly-in with Caraxes and how he's constantly getting lost in the halls at night really sells you on the enormity of the place.

the dragons :((( my heart absolutely broke. i cried over sunfyre and meleys and rhaenys. it tore me apart. i love dragons so so much and you can see how much of a bond they have with their people.

Yep, all of this!

In the book Aemond and Aegon actually love each other as brothers, Aegon even wanting to build statues in honor of Aemond. So yeah, it doesn't read as him outright attempting regicide. But the show seems to be doing something different.

I was gonna say, the political tension would be insane if the blacks were just... Right there.

True! My editing mistake. ~ Tim

@@HelloFutureMe No worries, mistakes can obviously happen and I'm simply a superfan of this franchise, lol. Shares a topspot with Avatar and Final Fantasy, for me.

Vhagar seems to be inspired by dinosaurs like the trex She is large and slow but crafty Trexs where silent hunters and sneaky too dispite the size so they where pretty stealthy

@@SRosenberg203 It is an easy mistake to make, and I had to check it again myself after reading your comment, but the Gullet actually only refers to the narrow strip between Dragonstone/Driftmark and Massey's Hook. Strip under Crackclaw Point is called ... also the Gullet? Hell, even the wiki actually uses both definitions. I won't reset my comment, because now it is even funnier.

That's actually pretty interesting if she'd do that after protecting him. Or maybe she did that to ease his pain idk. My theory is I think Aegon killed himself. Houses and Arryn and Stark will completely decimate whatever is left of him and his army. He lost almost everything at this point, his siblings, his son, he is malformed plus he is always in pain, and he lost his beloved dragon. He knows he is about to lose and he decided to end it for himself.

Good theory after being more or less living as a puppet king he ends his life on his own terms. ​@Melodia-ge8ib

Sadly it will wind down until season 3 😅

He was like throwing cold water to dogs mating.

Apparently he's done such a phenomenal job that hordes of braindead fucktards have taken it real-life and have been harassing the poor man so obscenely that he had to shut off his social media comments or something. BLOWS my fucking mind that there are still people out there that don't know what acting is.

You’re right; King’s Landing is supposed to be at the mouth of the Blackwater Rush. Rosby or Stokeworth should be where King’s Landing is, but Rosby is pushed up closer to Duskendale to accommodate the weird placement of King’s Landing.

Is like a move from WWE.

But, she does have a few advantages. The truly monstrous sized wings she has are perfect for gliding through the air. She was also close to the cliff so she might have taken a dove off the cliff and gone upward as soon as she saw Meleys? It is possible for very very big animals to be quiet; elephants and Trex for example.

But we _know_ she's good at flying. Just because she needs to warm up doesn't mean she can't fly good.

@muntu1221 Plus, she's strong enough to fly at intense speeds and winds. Battle above Stormsend shows she's hardly effected by the winds

Trexs actually hunted that way so its accurate Scientists say Trexs where quiet hunters despite their large size so they relied on surprises Vhagar seems to be inspired by that Vhagar has also seen many battles She is the most experienced dragon alive during the dance

@@shippendales8543 that’s wrong. Based on TRex physiology it is largely accepted that they were long distance sprinters and hunted their pray on open fields by running them down to exhaustion. Which explains the ridiculous sense of smell and eyesight. Regardless, you can’t compare a dragon to a T Rex and even if you do it doesn’t make sense for this strategy to work on a smaller/faster dragon. Specially since we know Vaghar needs a long running start to take off. The whole thing reeks of plot convenience. I still like the dragon “choreography” before that point.