"THIS IS DISGUSTING MATERIAL!!" *in the same breath* "COME TAKE A LOOK!!"
@H3wastooshort3 жыл бұрын
thats disgusting, where can i see it?
@utaamtrak95843 жыл бұрын
@@H3wastooshort He did that to prove his point
@Johnny0lovely693 жыл бұрын
I'd like your comment but it's at 69
@grahamturner26403 жыл бұрын
@@Johnny0lovely69 It’s at 458 now
@westrim3 жыл бұрын
It's in a book Reading Rainbooooooooow.
@justsomeoneelse59423 жыл бұрын
“DaD gEt a LoAd Of ThIs”
@1985toyotacamry3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to say ewwwww
@gcil82143 жыл бұрын
Perfect wording
@behinddeadeyes3 жыл бұрын
he sure did
@BandlerChing3 жыл бұрын
I guarantee she wakes up in the middle of the night and thinks about this moment.
@thisgustin3 жыл бұрын
loll. "Dad, get a load FROM this..."
@Andy-em8xt3 жыл бұрын
Even though the democrats and republicans are united against section 230, they are united for the opposite reasons lol.
@nathanmeagher78693 жыл бұрын
Republicans want it repealed cause they don't want to be liable for pushing blatant lies.
@saarthakbhattarai15173 жыл бұрын
@@nathanmeagher7869 lol , the lefts do that too without any censorship but only the republicans get censored even if they say the truth.
@lucadefranco34203 жыл бұрын
@@saarthakbhattarai1517 sure dude
@matenagy92443 жыл бұрын
@@nathanmeagher7869 Both sides have their lies. It's all a political game. But recently the right has been getting more censorship in usual than needed that's for sure.
@quentin92873 жыл бұрын
@@matenagy9244 can you explain how? Shutting down misinformation is not censorship.
@AttaBek14223 жыл бұрын
‘Take a look at this disgusting material’ I would but it’s still November 30th 🤷♂️
@lhzav3 жыл бұрын
12 hours. T-12 hours. In the home stretch
@soccerguy3253 жыл бұрын
I don't get it...
@brightmong72903 жыл бұрын
@@soccerguy325 NNN
@mapleshade29133 жыл бұрын
@@soccerguy325 It's refering to No Nut November
@narongsakchhouy29943 жыл бұрын
That awkward moment when you realize that NNN also stand for Non-stop Nut November!
@robk72663 жыл бұрын
"Take a look at this disgusting material." Me: "Yes sir."
@rezwittkerchester20553 жыл бұрын
John 3:16-17 KJV "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."
@_336993 жыл бұрын
“Disgusting material” = any position other than missionary
@ahmdjoiya3 жыл бұрын
Pronebone is the best🤘🏼
@tomfoolery55263 жыл бұрын
"Come by my desk and look at this disgusting material" - Professors at my every assignment review.
@propsterr23703 жыл бұрын
yo factsssss
@propsterr23703 жыл бұрын
@@ahmdjoiya mhm nah 2nd best
@firstnamelastname42493 жыл бұрын
That's right!
@zzeeky3 жыл бұрын
f in the chat for mathew's privacy
@shanhussain61143 жыл бұрын
F
@tracyfelmerjohnson81943 жыл бұрын
F
@Yukkuri_Yakumo3 жыл бұрын
F
@faiazekabir77603 жыл бұрын
F
@FirstNameLastName-qi5nv3 жыл бұрын
F
@AverytheCubanAmerican3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, yes. *Execute Rule 34*
@jojo48133 жыл бұрын
hey ive seen you in the comments before!!
@erythroblastosis103 жыл бұрын
@@jojo4813 I like your profile picture
@justsomeoneelse59423 жыл бұрын
Holup
@JoJo-xp6wr3 жыл бұрын
The time has *come* Execute order *69*
@jojo48133 жыл бұрын
@@erythroblastosis10 thank you 💘
@koviddogra83523 жыл бұрын
"Come by my desk and look at this disgusting material" - Professors at my every assignment review.
@ashleytaylor77123 жыл бұрын
“Dad get a load of this” “Dad builds own server”
@CrustySock973 жыл бұрын
He went on to create PH
@ashleytaylor77123 жыл бұрын
@@CrustySock97 ahaha 😂
@SilhSe2 жыл бұрын
1:22 😂
@nikhiliyengar15103 жыл бұрын
There's no way that "horrible stuff" will ever change interpretation, nope.
@subjectdelta72103 жыл бұрын
90s had a very sus version of “horrible stuff”
@GhostSamaritan3 жыл бұрын
"let's write some laws without worrying about the backfire"
@VEE3RDEYE3 жыл бұрын
Give grindr users verification.... simple
@aldomorales96193 жыл бұрын
There already is, you have to give your phone number, you can also can report.
@zomils3 жыл бұрын
Thats probably part of the problem, grindr doesnt need to care about it as their not liable
@ahmadalshehabi11383 жыл бұрын
That's not simple at all. A whole big bunch of Grindr users are closeted. They wouldn't want to verify their legal identities on Grindr and be known. Also, Grindr is used by people who live in places where it's dangerous to be out of the closet.
@refatahmed42463 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadalshehabi1138 agreed, it's an important point.
@sakuranovaryan92613 жыл бұрын
@@refatahmed4246 your skin looks Gorgeous 🌸🌌 from a fellow Bengali Sis =)
@champsammy133 жыл бұрын
Dad... Get a *load* of this 😏
@ddbajoingus3 жыл бұрын
Woah hunny u like this?!!!
@AlfStewartsRevenge3 жыл бұрын
hahauhauhauhauah har har har!
@Urboidaboi3 жыл бұрын
69th like
@ElBarto6543 жыл бұрын
step dad what are you doing??
@champsammy133 жыл бұрын
@@Urboidaboi *Nice*
@unreallilac55543 жыл бұрын
Dude Grindr is high key scary
@Thejdreamerzful3 жыл бұрын
Very....hence my I’m extra careful on sending any types of picture idc how “Time wasting” or “long” the chat is...few moments of pleasure is never that serious to be jeopardising your safety and peace with WEIRDOS trynna use your pics. Thank Goodness for the 10 sec picture reveal where you’re unable to screenshot. Even then though....I don’t like the app at all.
@erythroblastosis103 жыл бұрын
@@Thejdreamerzful They could always take a picture with something else though 😭
@snowstrobe3 жыл бұрын
I've stopped it entirely, stories like this and selling our content to third parties... they are not a trustworthy organisation.
@thiagogregory13 жыл бұрын
@@Thejdreamerzful True
@Julianna.Domina3 жыл бұрын
Scruff is a little better of a corporation, at least I know, but I've had the same experiences with people on there.
@anmoldureja42473 жыл бұрын
Dad, get a *LOAD* of this
@rajadhirajmaharaj3 жыл бұрын
*Family Therapy*
@ireallyhatemakingupnamesfo17583 жыл бұрын
*step-dad
@oldschoolj5103 жыл бұрын
He did already
@VR001003 жыл бұрын
*My family pie theme intensitys*
@Kumbaso3 жыл бұрын
Grindr could just force its users to verify the same way Tinder does verifications now, to protect their users.
@AGFuzzyPancake3 жыл бұрын
They could. They should. But that might cut into their bottom line.
@SlysMadBroh3 жыл бұрын
You aren't forced to verify on tinder. It just asks you to once then never again. But hey they tried right so don't come at them
@namegoeshere84583 жыл бұрын
The ex could still just make a new account with the pic and address right?
@avgfree213 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the solution be so sue grindr in a country where the protections of 230 cant extend to?
@thegummychair16133 жыл бұрын
@@avgfree21 that doesn’t work. From what I understand, you can only sue from the country you or the company are based in.
@johnnybadboy34753 жыл бұрын
3:25 I thought they were going to say “Bill Clinton,” which would’ve been much funnier considering his general nature.
@farhad_v253 жыл бұрын
same🤣
@DrRiq3 жыл бұрын
Ha. Did they show Bill on purpose for that?
@pundlik90123 жыл бұрын
yeah
@p3achee3 жыл бұрын
Your cat looks good exactly like my cat
@t135963 жыл бұрын
The person they said proposed it Bill Clinton passed it into law.
@blakeshepperd3 жыл бұрын
Senator Exon really acting like he hasn't seen the whole book👀
@xijinping62353 жыл бұрын
Lol
@lightovernight12443 жыл бұрын
Can't he sue the impersonator? Revoking 230 is going to lead us to needing Social Security just to use a web browser. Can't trust these companies with that info either.
@AChungusAmongUs3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't know what the right answer is. Many Democrats want more censorship. It's indisputable that the big social media companies have used different standards when censoring people on the right and Democrats have been transparent about wanting to pressure them to go further. Many Republicans want to re-categorize social media platforms as publishers if they do any censorship so they have to choose between leaving everything alone and being open to lawsuits for content that users post. It's probably best to leave the law alone for now and let people decide whether it's worth it to continue using platforms that censor based on a political agenda.
@socialgaming86993 жыл бұрын
Actually in South Korea you can’t play video games online unless you put in your social security number
@AmyDentata3 жыл бұрын
@@AChungusAmongUs Moderation is not censorship 🤦♀️
@AChungusAmongUs3 жыл бұрын
@@AmyDentata "censor: to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable." I wasn't talking about moderation. What the social media companies are doing and what the woke mob is pushing for is censorship. Silencing, deleting, intimidating and "othering" people and content that they disagree with according to a standard that isn't applied to people and content from "their side". Or that was designed specifically to silence opposing mainstream viewpoints.
@tramarthomas6105 Жыл бұрын
@@AChungusAmongUs give an example of this censorship
@pearpenguin3 жыл бұрын
Oh Vox, you sure do know how to get us to click on your videos.
@jdog22303 жыл бұрын
But I'm so confused by this because it's not like America owns the internet so what do these companies do in other countries??
@mauroubel3 жыл бұрын
They do whathever they please. As long as people are paying to place ads, you can advertise in any country that you want (there are exceptions)
@rinopw42623 жыл бұрын
Every country could probably have a similar law
@ZeteticPhilosopher3 жыл бұрын
Every country has digital borders, hence .en for England, .fr for France, etc. The US invented the modern internet, so American web addresses don’t say .us, but it’s the same thing. American law only applies to American web addresses, at least in general. Sometimes countries (as with France right now) will try to apply their laws to companies operating within their borders, and demand that those companies act a certain way regardless of what nation’s digital domain they are operating in.
@jdog22303 жыл бұрын
@@ZeteticPhilosopher ahhhh ok, thanks
@macrossactual3 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert: The US does own the internet.
@llsi87013 жыл бұрын
2:34 - 2:48 In a different context it'd sound like they just want to control the future generation.
@EnigmaticLucas3 жыл бұрын
It did sound like that. The Internet allowed people to become informed without experience, which was bad for the gerontocracy because the “older people are more informed due to having more experience” argument became null and void due to the Internet breaking the connection between information and experience.
@theflamethrower8673 жыл бұрын
@@EnigmaticLucas huh
@EnigmaticLucas3 жыл бұрын
@@theflamethrower867 That’s just my theory. Don’t take it as fact.
@llsi87013 жыл бұрын
@Oswald B Did you not read the words 'In a different context'?
@EnigmaticLucas3 жыл бұрын
@Oswald B There’s nothing wrong with prostitution if everyone involved is a consenting adult. Stop being a pearlclutcher.
@martinxy12913 жыл бұрын
"Come by my desk and look at this disgusting material" buddy you're an innocent soul, you've just barely scraped the electrons of the surface
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un3 жыл бұрын
It's the last day of NNN, did you plan this? You want us all to lose, don't you? Well you won't make me so HA
@Ace-Nepal3 жыл бұрын
Its December 1st where I am, looks like I won and now....
@shrekwithawillsmithface4653 жыл бұрын
OK
@justsomeoneelse59423 жыл бұрын
Yep
@patrickrobertoneill41993 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kim Jong-un :)
@mehtabsinghgill16853 жыл бұрын
Are u alive mr kim???
@opletter3 жыл бұрын
Why does the guy need to sue Grindr instead of just suing the guy harassing him?
@adianchowdhury90163 жыл бұрын
thats what I was thinking!
@yogawan38053 жыл бұрын
Maybe don't enough evidence
@ashleyhathaway85483 жыл бұрын
@@yogawan3805Or enough money. The guy could get a much bigger $ettlement from Grindr than the ex.
@whatarewaves3 жыл бұрын
This!! You wouldn’t sue the cell phone company for hosting the app right? The users of the technology should be solely responsible for their use of it!
@opletter3 жыл бұрын
@@whatarewaves yea, to me the is like suing the owner of a park for a crime committed there by some random person
@mediocritycentral3 жыл бұрын
and here I was expecting a video on Rule 34 :(
@sinoroman3 жыл бұрын
next video on vox: How Rule 34 Started A Wildfire
@116Homeboi3 жыл бұрын
Ha 69 likes
@almanalsecurityllc32123 жыл бұрын
what is rule 34 ( I ain't american)
@mohal67073 жыл бұрын
Which should be illegal. Ruins companies images and is involuntary.
@rickardkaufman39883 жыл бұрын
@@almanalsecurityllc3212 Anything can be parodied for a pornographic context. Also, I'm not American either.
@thatRyzzle3 жыл бұрын
“Everybody should have the right to sue,” the lawyer said.
@bennyj41063 жыл бұрын
‘’wHaT aRE YoU DOinG StEPbrO0o?¿?!!’’
@henrycollins24783 жыл бұрын
69 likes. Everything in the world is perfect
@7waterdrops_73 жыл бұрын
I knew this comment was gonna be here
@comprehendsirlgarbagedispo14953 жыл бұрын
yeah what is step bro up to? does anybody know?
@yourlocaljester72313 жыл бұрын
Step bro hanged himself
@icarusash22413 жыл бұрын
The stepbro just wants to pull out his stepsister from the washing machine.I see nOtHiNg wrong here
@joermnyc3 жыл бұрын
It needs to be: if you don’t use the “sword” you can’t have the “shield”.
@justiniansnow89193 жыл бұрын
It's because using the sword costs the companies money. They need to pay people to look into these things.
@Erik_The_Viking3 жыл бұрын
"Come by my desk and look at this disgusting material" - yeah I'll bet $1000 that he's "enjoying himself" to it every day
@Malcadon3 жыл бұрын
He *is* the "disgusting material" on his desk!
@hijack693 жыл бұрын
Can someone give me the time-stamp of this line in the video?
@Dave_thenerd3 жыл бұрын
5:40 So wait, why aren't they suing the ex-boyfriend? Where can read more about this story? That dude needs to go to prison.
@davyjones29943 жыл бұрын
The ex needs to be DOXed
@voyage60053 жыл бұрын
The ex, identified in the court filings only as J.C., was arrested on October 23, 2017. He was charged with stalking, criminal impersonation, making a false police report, and disobeying a court order. He pled not guilty.
@snappieboi50263 жыл бұрын
@@voyage6005 not guilty? I don’t understand English very well but doesn’t it mean that he wasn’t charged or pled guilty?
@meikhochakre33093 жыл бұрын
@@snappieboi5026 The accused pled not guilty
@mochalka37383 жыл бұрын
Why that guy didn't sue his ex? I am not defending companie that neglected this case, but it's just wierd. The programm is ok, his ex is not
@gregoryspatisserie98583 жыл бұрын
I agree the app, is a neutral tool not inherently malicious. You wouldn't sure a hammer factory because someone kept breaking your windows with a hammer , you'd arrest the person using the hammer!
@manuluh_3 жыл бұрын
"Company" and "In good faith" in the same sentence 😂😂😂
@meteiyigun80753 жыл бұрын
1:26 “it’s really cool” followed by cyber prom magazine
@johnlee69563 жыл бұрын
Dad... Get a load of this 😏
@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit2343 жыл бұрын
Who compiled it?!?
@Zarsla3 жыл бұрын
We need more Vox × Retro Report. Yaaaaa my 2 fav internet shows.
@pundlik90123 жыл бұрын
me tooo
@ryhanzfx16413 жыл бұрын
Me too
@humansiopao3 жыл бұрын
YASSSS... Hoping for some update on Retro Report though...
@rohithkumarsp3 жыл бұрын
Rip border
@davidestrada49423 жыл бұрын
Saaaame
@senatorpoopypants71823 жыл бұрын
I think someone should charge Erik's ex boyfriend, like we can get to Grinder later
@sashac45773 жыл бұрын
yea like identity fraud??
@aaronm.38433 жыл бұрын
Thats what i was wondering too. Why did they try and sue the company instead of the person?
@NaviRyan3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronm.3843 probably because the ex boyfriend has no money, and court costs a ton of money. Which is why when the lawyer says let’s sue big tech, it’s because she’s looking to get rich, and the problem is Americans are in general way too litigious. If 230 didn’t exist their wouldn’t be an internet because it would be in court proceedings that would take a thousand years to go through them all.
@addygreen89193 жыл бұрын
Imagine you are hosting a website and as soon as someone uploads something illegal on your website you will go to jail or have to pay a lot of money. Someone selling tools will face legal consequences, if someone uses this tools for a different illegal purpose. This is what a lot of this lawyers want and what will prevent you from making your own social media or video site. Google and Facebook have enough money and strong filters to survive this laws. Vox totally missed this. Erik's story also seemed like something someone would make up to get some attention.
@memesarekeem3 жыл бұрын
@@NaviRyan On a technical level, Grindr is responsible due to negligence laws. By all means, they had a right to sue Grindr, and by all means, the court had the obligation to side with Grindr and section 230.
@liv1d3593 жыл бұрын
I never thought i would see a video about this
@w3wl4d3 жыл бұрын
Just realized that AOL and America Online are the same thing
@cybercat15313 жыл бұрын
Nooo you dont say! What will they think of next?
@RyanKhieu3 жыл бұрын
🤦♂️
@user-xt3xn2hl4e3 жыл бұрын
bruh moment
@BestGammerx3 жыл бұрын
OMG you're young
@crappyaccount3 жыл бұрын
Same thanks to this comment. My excuse is that I'm a zoomer. No one called it "aMeRiCa OnLiNe" when I was young
@Galahad7273 жыл бұрын
Hey, great story! I’m proud of your reporting in this story. It came across as non-partisan and erstwhile in trying to explore an issue without pushing a political agenda. That’s the type of journalism that helps us all enter into meaningful and fruitful conversations that can change things for the better. Thank you :-) Keep moving this way, make America News great again, ;-)
@tongus57993 жыл бұрын
Ok
@opletter3 жыл бұрын
Can the guy not sue his ex-boyfriend?
@Alpha13Wolf3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. What his is ex has done, hopefully it’s over, is illegal.
@opletter3 жыл бұрын
@@Alpha13Wolf yea, but that means he doesn't need to sue Grindr, right?
@lapatron5553 жыл бұрын
Nope. No actual identity was stolen. In my country this was clarified as a crime recently but not in the US. Because he didn't get bank info, soc security number, passport or something similar, this was not actual identity theft.
@opletter3 жыл бұрын
@@lapatron555 can he not sue for harassment?
@lildaiki76293 жыл бұрын
Does the ex boyfriend not have friends or family to to tell him he's a monster
@falnica3 жыл бұрын
Sue the PEOPLE doing the harmful posts instead of the companies allowing those posts edit: To those mentioning anonymity the solution is relatively easy, you can use court orders to force companies to give you information on a given user. That way anonymity is protected until a judge considers it is relevant for an investigation Of course it's not a perfect solution, there are tons of corner cases where this doesn't work, but i think that in most cases this would be the best way to go
@TheHexicle3 жыл бұрын
And when the anonymity of the internet prevents those people from being accountable?
@occengineering3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHexicle the government tracks everything and everyone and can easily find who posted what and they do so on a regular basis (how do you think they find people that post on extremist forums). It’s not an issue.
@sohopedeco3 жыл бұрын
Good luck trying to find anonymous people who posted them yourself.
@TheHexicle3 жыл бұрын
In response to your edit on the post, as with this last reply, people who know what they’re doing is wrong and potentially illegal will take precautions to ensure that, even if a court order forces a social media company to hand over the information they know on a certain user, they can not be identified.
@nick45063 жыл бұрын
@@occengineering problem is that I'm not the government. so if someone posts something about me anonymously, I cant track them down. I as a private citizen, don't have access to those government tools. and even if I did, good luck trying to prove that in a court.
@williammclaughlin74583 жыл бұрын
Freedom of speech does not mean you are exempt from the consequences of your actions. I don't think we should limit people's freedom, but people shouldn't be allowed to post defamatory or harmful content without being held accountable. It's just common sense.
@traceh46933 жыл бұрын
Remove section 230 and suddenly every web app requires a subscription fee and ads
@bootmii983 жыл бұрын
@Oswald B How are you so sure they won't be held liable if they don't moderate at all with Section 230 gone?
@TerrifyingBird3 жыл бұрын
Section 230 is the reason you can be anonymous on the internet. Change that and sooner than you imagine you have to log into every site with a verified form of ID, because the website will want to sue you if you post anything controversial and it becomes problematic for the website. No, it does not need to be something ethically wrong: you could be posting a video of someone being murdered by the police as a form of protest and the website could come after you because the police dept sued for frivolous reasons. Killing section 230 is asinine, as many comments below point out. It is good as it is, and making it a political battleground does not help anyone, neither left nor right, so stop it.
@cuthbertrichardson78113 жыл бұрын
I was showing my dad something on phone, and I got this notification. . . . . . . . . . I know I know... I'm dead
@beastybacon1993 жыл бұрын
Hi dead I’m dad 🙋♂️
@harjapaulakh44243 жыл бұрын
F in the chat
@Recycled3 жыл бұрын
PressF
@Hdjhsjdhhshu3 жыл бұрын
F in the chat
@fadibokinno34653 жыл бұрын
F
@philsarazen66193 жыл бұрын
Having this Vox doc as an intro to addressing this problem as part of a weekly class in the schools would sort out all these problems in several years, at most, one generation.
@BrokeGirlFinance3 жыл бұрын
"Dad, get a load of this " lol
@yoyofargo3 жыл бұрын
You guys lost me at the part where someone was harassing that guy using grindr, but the lawyer went after grinder instead of the person.
@yoyofargo3 жыл бұрын
brb gonna go sue toyota because the guy who robbed me drove a toyota
@blackgirlburntout3 жыл бұрын
While agree with you terrible example. Grindr in this case acted without care for their product. when i can contact your company, tell your company somone is impersonating me and you have not shut down the false acct you are at fault. More like a cop watching you get robbed and then telling you to call 911 for help.
@dlotte20503 жыл бұрын
The issue is these companies are allowing the platform to be misused for individual harassment and illegal content proliferation. They went after the guy as well just so you know, but many more people are going through what that guy went through because the platform is unsafe and unmoderated.
@lgbtqiarights3 жыл бұрын
@@yoyofargo tell us how it goes
@jaybee27D3 жыл бұрын
I assumed he was going after grindr because the actual person was operating anonymously
@badgirl84893 жыл бұрын
“Take a look at this disgusting material” I definitely will
@floppypancakes95093 жыл бұрын
It shouldve been called: *section 69*
@valid48803 жыл бұрын
never met a itchy potato before
@bodybody56093 жыл бұрын
Nice
@shubhamarya45763 жыл бұрын
I am not liking this because it has 69 likes
@LoLWhatAUsername3 жыл бұрын
I can’t “like” this since it has 69 likes
@crappyaccount3 жыл бұрын
Why are you itchy
@bobogerwain36113 жыл бұрын
Cant imagine just 25 years ago humans were still so primitive haha, we still are but the internet has changed us completely
@nethascotx243 жыл бұрын
Just saying... before watching this.... what the f- Edit: never mind, it’s actually pretty reasonable
@phoenixfire31623 жыл бұрын
That post nut clarity
@MsQueenBR3 жыл бұрын
The guy with the revengeful boyfrind, did he also sue the boyfriend? Bc I understand how complex suing the company is but the guy, c'mon
@fromthefuture71723 жыл бұрын
This is why the law is useful. Otherwise there'd be a billion frivolous lawsuits.
@MrTryAnotherOne3 жыл бұрын
Who decides and defines what is 'decent' and what is not?
@crappyaccount3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@popefrancis81533 жыл бұрын
The church? Our customs and etiquette?
@natalie95273 жыл бұрын
I am so excited to see you all collabing with Retro Report!!! It's a dream come true. I hope there is more
@papillonnocturne16683 жыл бұрын
“Dad, get a load of this!” Ya.. he probably has
@hnanetoo3 жыл бұрын
1:08 Drew Gooden is that u
@clevergirl44573 жыл бұрын
wait, where?
@clevergirl44573 жыл бұрын
oh, I see,
@JoJo-xp6wr3 жыл бұрын
Me, an intellectual: you mean rule 34?
@champsammy133 жыл бұрын
I see that you're a man of culture. 😌
@unreallilac55543 жыл бұрын
To be honest I actually thought this is what the video was about
@JoJo-xp6wr3 жыл бұрын
@@unreallilac5554 *NOICE!*
@wordsinahandle3 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. Sorry. Can someone explain?
@JoJo-xp6wr3 жыл бұрын
@@wordsinahandle rule 34 is a made up rule on the internet that says: anything or anyone can be lewded
@skullboy14073 жыл бұрын
As a programmer I will add this: there is immense difficulty in detecting unwanted content and requires sizable investments to maintain and keep up to date. Manual reports of content also cost an extremely large amount to pay physical content moderators. Very difficult problem.
@DC139993 жыл бұрын
Good job presenting the varying opinions and perspectives on how to approach changes to the law!
@_ikako_3 жыл бұрын
1:15 looks like someone watched drew's video
@Inferno453 жыл бұрын
U mean from Tailosive Tech??
@goodhuman46853 жыл бұрын
@@Inferno45 nop. Drew Gooden. He's an awsum youtuber (potentially the creator of youtube and probably the only channel too. Subscribe to drew gooden
@zyoom87963 жыл бұрын
Who's Drew Golden? Ah I see you must be talking about Danny Gonzalez |°з°|
@rishavchatterjee87133 жыл бұрын
7:34 I'll miss reddit if sec 230 gets revoked
@larrabeejl3 жыл бұрын
Let's talk about personal responsibility. Stop blaming all of these companies if you don't like it don't use it.
@14Rudderz143 жыл бұрын
The production of this video is amazing. The motion graphics and general look and feel of each scene is awesome
@napoleonibonaparte71983 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that daughter’s dad is her biological dad
@Julio9743 жыл бұрын
Companies shouldn’t have to be liable for everything that is posted (it’s impossible), but they should be liable for what they consciously choose to leave something posted when they shouldn’t.
@erythroblastosis103 жыл бұрын
Vox knew what they were doing posting this on November 30th.
@ethannavarre-cantrell67483 жыл бұрын
I am uniformed. Why Nov. 30th?
@rodneymartiniii95703 жыл бұрын
Oh god
@oceanorvital53733 жыл бұрын
@@ethannavarre-cantrell6748 because it’s the last day of no nut November.
@Moobeus3 жыл бұрын
8:39 “what we need are changes that are carefully tailored and address a particular harm” Luckily the government is known for its ability to make nuanced and sensible changes...wait...oh god 🤦♂️
@khalilalashy32293 жыл бұрын
I love how they reach out to experts when they do videos like that!
@napoleonibonaparte71983 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Exon’s children and himself viewed the binder more than once
@sheltongolden43943 жыл бұрын
Matthew: Gets 20 people a day showing up at his workplace DTF. Me: Sends 50 messages on dating app and gets no reply.
@hijack693 жыл бұрын
Use the same app as Matthew did
@calvinhoward38083 жыл бұрын
You see Matthew?
@ugp3013 жыл бұрын
The real problem is these internet companies have monopolies. if there was competition in the market the whole 230 debate would be moot
@MajorMlgNoob3 жыл бұрын
Social networks aren't necessarily competitive markets tho You're not selling a traditional product
@RandoBlopez3 жыл бұрын
Ironic uploading this on the 30th of November
@humanrightsadvocate3 жыл бұрын
How is it ironic?
@RandoBlopez3 жыл бұрын
@@humanrightsadvocate last day of nnn for whoever is participating and is still going strong
@humanrightsadvocate3 жыл бұрын
@@RandoBlopez What is "nnn" and what is there to participate to?
@user-xt3xn2hl4e3 жыл бұрын
@@humanrightsadvocate r/wooosh
@Jpauly19993 жыл бұрын
We need this rule. Both sides of the political spectrum have a point, but imagine the government enforcing what was to be allowed on a site
@drahgon553 жыл бұрын
What I do not understand is what stops the individuals from just suing the person responsible for posting the content. Identity theft is a big crime
@catm24543 жыл бұрын
"Dad, get a load of this" i'm sure he has
@qu7653 жыл бұрын
I personally want everything to be as open as possible. Maybe lawsuits in certain times should also be. ISP should not be able to weld the sword. Companies should get a little less sword and shield. The one thing that I think would be the worse outcome is if the internet (as a whole) becomes more censored. What happens to companies is slightly different.
@GordonWrigley3 жыл бұрын
When you do that though what you are actually doing is handing the keys to the people money. When everything is totally open Russia oligarchs control your Facebook feed because they can afford nearly unlimited amounts of targeted advertising. The remaining Koch brother controls your representatives because he can afford nearly unlimited campaign dentations (not that buying off your reps is particularly expensive anyway). Walmart controls your shopping because the Waltons can afford to sell at a lose until all the other businesses in your town go out of business etc etc
@TerrifyingBird3 жыл бұрын
But the thing is that every competing interest could deploy bots, not just Russia or the Koch brothers. Maybe rather than forcing startups out of the market by changing Section 230 we should just make certain kind of targeted advertising illegal in order to make it more difficult for bots to work. State intervention in these matters is good, but it needs to be carefully planned, otherwise it can do a lot of damage and not act exactly as intended.
@freshavocadew3 жыл бұрын
@@GordonWrigley buying representatives and selling underpriced have nothing to do with section 230. And there are already country and international laws against cyberwarfare, again irrelevant to section 230.
@__nog6423 жыл бұрын
6:56 I mean his ex was the one actually actively doing malicious stuff. Why did he sue Grindr instead of suing his ex?
@99wattr893 жыл бұрын
Uhhhhh... why couldn't the vengeful ex-boyfriend be held accountable? The company should also be trying to stop abuse of it's system, but you totally left out the logical first step of legal action against the person actually comitting the abuse.
@natalieshah49983 жыл бұрын
This is a retro report collab!! I used to love watching retro report!
@peterDcontact3 жыл бұрын
yeah lets give Americans the ability to sue companies i am sure the won't abuse it... Are you kidding me!!! Have you been to USA? why not just make it illegal to impersonate other people?
@visualdisappointment81743 жыл бұрын
Anyone whose played rust before is having a panic attack watching this video.
@swapnilchand338 Жыл бұрын
The fact that we haven't found solution to ban such content and help the ones who actually are getting troubled for no reason yet is ridiculous to see, and we talk about ai and cashless transactions.
@xotoxpv3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the guy got harassed trough a dating app and then he sues the app company is quite ridiculous. It is like being stabbed by a knife and then i will sue the company which made the knife. Nobody even sues gun or cigarette companies for anything, why should the internet be any different? In the first place the person is liable for his actions, the app company is liable only for their inaction. It would be like selling a gun to a person who says i want to shoot people there and there!
@lunayen3 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of lawsuits against tobacco and gun companies. Practically all of them don't make the news. And he's suing Grindr because they chose not to do anything.
@BizKwikTwist3 жыл бұрын
3:13....yall using the keylock sound from Rust I'd know that sound anywhere
@chrislojet98013 жыл бұрын
1:18 I think Bill Gate's glasses are a little too big for him.
@Acesmirtil3 жыл бұрын
Goes well w his wallet
@williamcates36503 жыл бұрын
Ok so like i dont think that if someone is slandering or harassing someone online and thats affecting them legitimately in the real world then, they should be able to sue the person not the company involved, they are giving everyone a platform and just cause someones harassing someone else on their site doesnt mean they are to blame for not doing anything about it. If its that bad take the other dude into court.
@empirestate87913 жыл бұрын
Did you interview a lawyer about revoking section 230? Of course, she'll want to revoke it! It's extra lawsuits (and more money) for her!
@buckgb27673 жыл бұрын
k
@buckgb27673 жыл бұрын
thanks
@sermah3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, just imagine how some category of people will sue big companies for being not politically correct
@snowstrobe3 жыл бұрын
Where's the repercussions for the individuals putting up the harmful content?
@clowneryandbuffonery3 жыл бұрын
The editing is on point!!
@SBEBS113 жыл бұрын
Suing a company because of what a user said is like suing the government because of something you heard in a park. You're suing the wrong entity. Leave section 230.
@pucirepu3 жыл бұрын
1:23 “Now I have gotten on the internet, I would rather be on my computer than just doing about anything” yeah you would kiddo with those ‘disgusting materials’ on the internet lol
@wiizzpl47183 жыл бұрын
So instead of punishing someone who drew a swastica on a wall. They want to punish the wall ower?
@aerialdarkguy3 жыл бұрын
Well said. Might have to borrow that analogy. And also without section 230, the wall owner removing the swastica could get sued by the vandel.
@sabikikasuko66363 жыл бұрын
I think the war on §230 is really similar on the scandal of article 13, another legal movement around the Communications Decency Act. Europe tried to entirely scrap §230 and make companies fully liable for the content of the internet. People were saying that it was a disaster because, if that happens, companies would have to implement extremely agressive filters that take down copyright infractors on the spot, before it is even uploaded. And that's all. The problem was not the law, but how the law would.make the companies react. And it is because the law is only as big as the ones affected by it enforce it, or get it enforced. The problem with War on §230 is the same, much like we could've never known how companies would use their rights back when §230 was enacted, now we cannot know exactly what effects any reenactment of §230 could have in our lives. This section has helped shape the internet as we know it, and any change, as small as it is, has the potential to have tremendous consequences on the internet as a whole, as the group of 100 companies that control maybe 98% of the entirety of the surface and the deep web, are forced to change their rules and rethink their models to see what other exploits they can use, and what they can no longer use, what new methods they use, what new tools are developed. This thing has become so big that any change could have deeply changing consequences, because of the unpredictability of the different companies at play
@e.batista94243 жыл бұрын
The lawyers of those defamation cases should plead “clear and present danger”. This limits freedom of speech forcing companies to remove the ads.
@maslo2103 жыл бұрын
We call it instegram today🤦♀️
@travismiller893 жыл бұрын
And only fans
@perpetualcollapse3 жыл бұрын
The stuff in the beginning of the video is tame compared to what’s available these days.
@chikoopandya3 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@erythroblastosis103 жыл бұрын
@@chikoopandya Wow you're so fetch 😭 teach me how to be cool
@janneshacunniah77043 жыл бұрын
Oh geez this is the wrong video to be early for lol
@lidlphoon37813 жыл бұрын
the rust code lock sound made me jump
@vilvero3 жыл бұрын
I agree that you need to be very careful when changing this law.