How a Swarm of German Bf 109 Fighters Altered the Course of History

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Жыл бұрын

The sudden leap in aviation technology after World War 1 and the onset of World War 2 was so dramatic that it led the Royal Air Force to believe that any future conflict would be won by air supremacy alone.
During the period known as the Phoney War, the Royal Air Force launched a daring raid on the crucial naval base at Wilhelmshaven. The objective was to cripple the Kriegsmarine and stop it from engaging Allied supply routes in the Atlantic. As such, 22 Vickers Wellington bombers were suddenly unleashed upon the sheltered German area in the North Sea in December of 1939.
The warplanes were tasked with sinking as many German ships in Wilhelmshaven and the area surrounding Heligoland Bight as possible. Emboldened by the British mantra about the bomber always being able to get through, the confident Allied pilots swept into the area believing the day would result in a decisive victory.
Soon, however, the Luftwaffe would unbridle a formidable fleet of Messerschmitt Bf 109 interceptors that would bring the British pilots to their knees and force the Royal Air Force to rewrite their aviation combat philosophy for the remainder of the war…
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@richsmith7200 Жыл бұрын

The simple fact that these young men climbed into dated, aircraft, some bordering on obsolescence, speaks volumes about the quality of those folks.

@chriso5609 Жыл бұрын

me watching this at 3 am realizing how influential late night history channel was to me

@christopherwebber3804 Жыл бұрын

The BF 110 was designed as a bomber destroyer, and so it proved on that day. They were there as well as the 109s, and destroyed more per fighter than the single engined fighters.

@mikeromney4712 Жыл бұрын

Right. Helmut Lent scored his first Abschuss on that day in his Bf110-C......" I pointed my crosshair a thumb above his nose and gave short bursts of fire. It was almost so easy - I was baffeled....."......:)

@benbower8918 Жыл бұрын

I am all over World War II information and channels on KZfaq. Just found yours and i'm all in buckling my seatbelt please hit the gas

@darrellborland119 Жыл бұрын

Dad, rcaf, flew Wellington's and Lancasters...did not talk much about it.

@damienmaynard8892 Жыл бұрын

My Dad was RAN in both Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. Did not talk about it for more than 60 years after.

@Mbonner73 Жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorite channels on KZfaq, by watching your videos I often start researching the content of your videos and 98% every time your information is spot on. Thank you for posting this video and so many other amazing videos!!

@tristannieto Жыл бұрын

Great editing on this video. Well-sourced footage, good pacing.

@adriangabrieljones881 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video! I always enjoy your videos! Keep going!

@markmarco2880 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic historical synopsis. Enlightening, no less. Right down to the contentious relationship between Naval and Luftwaffe officers…we have a benchmark history lesson here. Thank you.🩸

@thegovernor9257 Жыл бұрын

Love this channel!

@philipberry6477 Жыл бұрын

This does a disservice to those brave bomber crews. Raids by Whitleys, Blenheims and Wellingtons were unescorted by a simple fact that this clip overlooks: there was no long range bomber escort fighters until the arrival of types like the P-38 and P-51, the best the RAF could do was to switch to night raids to avoid fighter interception.

@georgestone6807 Жыл бұрын

One of my favorite channels ❤

@oneshotme Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

@seancrockett305 Жыл бұрын

Another great episode about the use of aircraft and tactics during WWII. Would like to see some of the night fighters both of axis and allies. Especially the HE-219 Uhu.

@blank6624 Жыл бұрын

AMAZING VIDS LIKE ALWAYS!!!!!!

@Son_of_syria Жыл бұрын

This channel is actually pretty nice! It provides a beautifuly constructed back story of an event in a short and simple manner. I do kind of like appreciate that, because many history channels (especially those who provide the tales of historical battles) lengthen their videos to the extent of it becoming a waist of time. So yes, I shall subscribe to this channel, and spread it.

@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын

This raid showed how different things were at the start. Here we have the R.A.F. being so concerned about not inflicting civilian casualties, when in the future they certainly didn't care e.g .the infamous area nightbomging attacks on so many German cities, leaving over 600,000 German civilians dead. Sad that they couldn't stick with their non- civilian casualty policy. Also so naive of them to think that their unescorted bombers could get through, esp in daylight. Wise of them to attack submarine bases , Churchill said the the only thing that really worried him during the war was the U-Boat menace. Thanks for another well sectioned, well narrated doc with great film footage.. Please keep up the good work, cheers

@kellybreen5526 Жыл бұрын

I agree with the sentiment, but there was no way to bomb accurately enough at night. There was no way to bomb by day unescorted. Bomber Command could hit specialised targets at night with great accuracy provided that they took weeks to prepare for the special operations. If they just hit the same two dozen targets all the defences would have been concentrated around them. I don’t Monday morning quarterback the strategy because the people making the decisions at the time were not privy to what we know now, but were privy to many things that are now secret.

@kurtman752 Жыл бұрын

600.000 bull...💩much less

@neilbone9490 Жыл бұрын

The difference being the “civilians” bombed later on by the RAF were Germans with most directly or indirectly involved in supporting the war economy. In a total war killing a factory worker making weapons makes as much sense as killing a soldier using them a fact forgotten by most people today.

@subdawg1331 Жыл бұрын

wow what an amazing video thank you

@medicallyjoe7146 Жыл бұрын

would be so good to see a comprehensive 2 side take on the war from you

@plumahoplita Жыл бұрын

Even if this video is good. You are missing the vital information that Wolfgang Falck was piloting a Bf110 from 2./ZG 76. It was not only Bf109s involved. And also it was not the last time Bomber Command would try unescorted attacks, with similar results. The "Blenheim massacre" comes to mind

@marconapolitano2821 Жыл бұрын

hey i tried to google this blenheim massacre but i didn't find anything could you tell me more about it

@plumahoplita Жыл бұрын

@@marconapolitano2821 It is mentioned in several books: «Bomber Command War Diaries» from Middlebrook and «Bomber Command Loses 1939-1940» from Chorley. It was an attack on Amiens and St. Omer on July 10th 1940. From 40 bombers sent, 6 were lost to enemy action. The Germans claimed 7.

@marconapolitano2821 Жыл бұрын

@@plumahoplita thank you very much I'll be sure to look into it.

@garyhamman8934 Жыл бұрын

Well researched, relative video, makes for a great story.

@araujo209dad9 Жыл бұрын

Great channel

@gordonpeden6234 Жыл бұрын

Great work on a little known "Theatre of War"

@TheUnforgiven69 Жыл бұрын

As a 30 retired fighter plot I must say I've never agreed with England's tactics back then. Close formations by unescorted bombers actually did the opposite than what this video suggests. A German pilot would be searching for bombers via radar and sight. Spotting a lone bomber in cloudy skies is difficult. Finding a formation is easier. Find a formation and you've found them all one glance. They should've all dispersed...make it home any route you can with fuel permitting.

@paktahn Жыл бұрын

i agree though it depends on the speed of the bomber and what you are facing if its a bomber with a higher end speed against 109s i fully agree you will lost some but the ones not chased should be able to get away against an fw 190 that is a good deal faster than the 109 and has a heavier armament with more ammo i think you might be better off in a formation especially if you are slow though you would probably be screwed either way when facing something with 2 to 6 20mm cannons with he rounds that was one of the fastest aircraft of its time

@TheUnforgiven69 Жыл бұрын

@@paktahn Exactly. The bomber has little to no chance against the 109. They are doomed either way. But chances of survival increase if fleeing back home at top speed. Disperse and have the 109s run you down. In a tight formation the kills become much easier. The bombers had dropped the payload and were light and able to achieve max speed.

@tomhenry897 Жыл бұрын

In a formation get supporting fire from those around you If by your self can get swarmed

@tomhenry897 Жыл бұрын

Their max speed was lower then a fighter

@GM-fh5jp Жыл бұрын

The sky, like the ocean is vast. The same reasoning gave the allies the winning convoy system.Individual ships were easy prey to the hunters and even though the formation is more easily seen(from a reasonable distance), if it isn't seen then an entire squadron or more remains unscathed to damaging effect once they get to their target.

@FlyingDarkLord Жыл бұрын

I hope you recover from your cold soon 😊👍🏼

@StevenBanks123 Жыл бұрын

“The tension in the sky became overbearing.” -many clumsy phrases like this.

@narmadha9699 Жыл бұрын

If Belgium was neutral then why they allow british expeditionary force to land in Belgium on Oct 7 1939

@2ndkombat Жыл бұрын

The answer to not enough bombers is more bombers. Day & night, as frequent as possible.

@markcantemail8018 Жыл бұрын

Thanx

@cesarpcminirace798 Жыл бұрын

Greetings from Spain. Thanks for your videos. In this one the subtitles don work.

@kevinsundberg9617 Жыл бұрын

I am sure others have mentioned it, but recently on all of your videos the closed captioning happens ALL AT THE SAME TIME for about 5 seconds in the beginning. I am also finding out that I am no longer subscribed to all of your channels?

@mhpjii Жыл бұрын

That was well done . . . _still!_

@davidseto2199 Жыл бұрын

American day light bombing were heavily armed four engine bombers in tight formation. This had mixed results and at the end need fighter escort.

@johnharris6655 Жыл бұрын

During the 1948 war for Independence, Israel recruited a bunch of American, Canadian and British Mercenary WW2 pilots to form what would be come the IAF. There was an arms Embargo and the only country who would sell to Israel was Czechoslovakia. Germany had build a 109 plant in Czechoslovakia and it was still functioning after the war. They started building 109's for Israel. One American pilot who was Jewish said "Irony is being Jewish and getting into a fighter that still had German insignia on it." The Arabs had Spitfires but the IAF pilots had more experience and decimated Arab air forces and ground forces.

@brealistic3542 Жыл бұрын

The Me 109s really chewed up these bombers. It wasn't a smart idea for the British to try this raid.

@roobear78 Жыл бұрын

As opposed to what? giving the bastard free reign over the seas as well!

@billfrancis7852 Жыл бұрын

Until US got Mustangs in the fight, Allied bombers were easy pray

@EmilPozarphoto Жыл бұрын

those were Bf-110

@alessiodecarolis Жыл бұрын

Sadly they tought at the start of the war that the bombers would've been successful in their missions, but the development of new fighters doomed this mentality, a bf109 wasn't a Gladiator.

@ethanmac639 Жыл бұрын

@@billfrancis7852 the me-262's smoked mustangs

@whydahell3816 Жыл бұрын

All war strategy was written in blood

@vanishingfolklore Жыл бұрын

bombers were such a horror to civilians

@Leosarebetter Жыл бұрын

Hey Holland and France, how did that appeasement and neutrality work out for you???

@DarkFlameWolf93 Жыл бұрын

That was one hell of a CC bug

@jdoniach Жыл бұрын

The original film clips had a 4:3 aspect ratio. By posting them in 16:9 you make everything look shorter and wider.

@Doc_Rainbow Жыл бұрын

0:11 well there right... after Germany lost the air space bombers just bombed the hell out of factorys and citys... as well as constant straifing runns on Support and fighting/tank collums, it just cut of backup for Germany

@SimonBrisbane Жыл бұрын

“Even-so”, “Nevertheless”. No “Moreover”??

@craigiefconcert6493 Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure the crews thought “the bombers will always get through” and that they’d have a turkey shoot. They probably thought it was insane but followed orders.

@russman3787 Жыл бұрын

You have to remember that large-scale bombing was a fairly new concept at the time. There wasn't a whole lot of previous knowledge to draw on.

@auro1986 Жыл бұрын

show how you setup military industrial infrastructures for these wars

@matsv201 Жыл бұрын

Bombers will always come throu.. if they survive or not, that is a different question

@user-rr1vv2zy9j Жыл бұрын

Please recheck your subtitle. It's a mess. Correct it Immidietly.

@marksummers463 Жыл бұрын

The new doctrine was "the fighter will get thru".

@patrickcallahan9599 Жыл бұрын

All those countries were eventually invaded and occupied 🤔

@billshedd55 Жыл бұрын

Why didn’t they just tell Germany that they were neutral?😂😂😂

@markdavis9510 Жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on the USAF U2s that have been shot down over Russia and China?

@johnmcmickle5685 Жыл бұрын

Being detected 30 miles out will not give you a one-hour warning.

@russman3787 Жыл бұрын

6:15 something is... off about the guy in the middle's face.

@ukulelemikeleii Жыл бұрын

Why didn't they have a fighter escort? Was it because they would be beyond the range of Spitfires and/or Hurricanes, or was it hubris?

@WanderfalkeAT Жыл бұрын

Yes!

@That70sGuitarist Жыл бұрын

This raid (and many others like it) went *far* beyond the limited range of Spitfires or Hurricanes, both of which were short-range, "point defence interceptors." Neither Britain nor Germany had *any* long-range escort fighters during the early and middle stages of the war (1939-1943). Unlike Britain and the US, Germany never developed their own long-ranged, four-engined strategic bombers, instead focusing all their efforts on building a shorter-ranged, purely tactical air force. They would pay a heavy price for this short-sightedness. Britain approached North American Aviation to build Curtis P-40 fighters because they needed more fighters than they could produce. Instead, North American Aviation convinced the British government that they could design and build a better fighter in less time than it would take to tool up for license-production of the P-40. The P-51 Mustang was what they came up with, although it needed some improvements and refinements before it found its true calling as a long-ranged escort fighter. Once US heavy bombers could be escorted all the way to/from targets deep within Germany, the writing was on the wall; Germany was bound to lose at that point, and there was nothing they could do about it. After the war ended, Luftwaffe leader Hermann Goering said, "The first time I saw Allied fighters over Berlin, I knew the jig was up."

@markgranger9150 Жыл бұрын

Ukulele it was because fighters at that time did not have the fuel

@vasileseaman5872 Жыл бұрын

Heard immunity!

@hammmodjabeer7278 Жыл бұрын

The Germans taught the British a study they don't forget

@markgranger9150 Жыл бұрын

The allies had to teach the germans twice. They finally got the message and we hadn't herd a peep out of them, krauts are hard headed. But now we are all allies.

@hammmodjabeer7278 Жыл бұрын

@@markgranger9150 Someday they will come back, don't rush

@scottjuhnke6825 Жыл бұрын

Edit. Edit. Edit. Secondly, I get the impression from the narration that you have zero idea where, and why, the concept of the bomber always getting through came from. Thirdly, saying naval ships is redundant. If you are trying to reference ships of a navy, as opposed to merchant vessels, simply saying warships is more precise.

@markgranger9150 Жыл бұрын

You sound German

@coling3957 Жыл бұрын

ALL the major powers thought their bombers would get through.. they were supposed to be able to attack swiftly and before the enemy could muster sufficient fighters to intercept them. flak only ever accounted for a small amount of losses. the Germans would learn hard lesson in 1940 in the skies over Britain where radar-directed fighters chewed up Luftwaffe Heinkels and their escorts. when USA entered the war ( ..finally ) they attempted similar daylight attacks beyond range of fighter escorts and suffered heavy losses. the B17s carried so much armament and armor their payloads were much reduced ..

@evobsm2328 Жыл бұрын

Relax. This channel only survives beceause of clickbait and shock value. There have been a lot of times he has even been lying or just not saying everything.

@SKILLED521 Жыл бұрын

Deploy The Wimpys?

@AZNXXXful14 Жыл бұрын

Not Mark Felton...eh...

@madpom2 Жыл бұрын

British were good at what they did

@cesarpcminirace798 Жыл бұрын

Excuse, I don´t speak English. In this one the subtitles don´t work.

@rororp Жыл бұрын

British bombing policy at the start of WW2 was not limited by it's aircraft abilities, but by a policy of not bombing civilian targets. Bombers flew over Germany night after night dropping leaflets, not bombs. Not having bases in mainland Europe or being barred from over flying neutral airspace was not a limitation on Bomber Command.

@raypurchase801 Жыл бұрын

The priority for British power has always been to eliminate the enemy's naval power. The same policy was directed towards King Louis, Bonaparte and the Kaiser. Bombing German Kriegsmarine targets made perfect sense. Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty in '39.

@rororp Жыл бұрын

@@raypurchase801 For 20 years the RAF had built up a strategic bomber force. Regardless of who was 1st Lord of the Admiralty, bombing warships was not what Bomber Command was designed to do

@raypurchase801 Жыл бұрын

@@rororp Yes it was. Hitting the enemy's naval strength was always the number one priority. Plus the RAF was determined NOT to bomb targets inside cities.

@rororp Жыл бұрын

@@raypurchase801 Nope. The attacking of ships and the support of the army were the two things Bomber Command had not made any preparation for at the start of the war, their policy was strategic bombing. That's the end of the matter. Now I'm off to see Mrs Purchase with Toast, she's doing a 2 for 1 deal this afternoon.

@raypurchase801 Жыл бұрын

@@rororp Thankyou for your kind wishes. My wife says Toast gave her a pearl necklace, but when I ask to see it, she just sniggers. RAF Bomber Command was forbidden to bomb German cities in 1939 and 1940. Strategic bombing was out of the question. The exception was legitimate military targets such as naval ports. Everything changed after the Luftwaffe bombed London (allegedly in error) and the RAF bombed Berlin in retaliation. Then Bomber Command used strategic bombing. This was suicidal by day, whilst navigation problems made it worse than useless at night.

@whiskey_tango_foxtrot__ Жыл бұрын

Early in the war, both Germany and Britain avoided bombing civilian targets in the west.

@benquinneyiii7941 Жыл бұрын

Emulate

@johnking6252 Жыл бұрын

Hence the moniker ' the greatest generation ' we could use more of that kind today , if they had the leadership? I think we got the people but not the leaders.

@doomhippie6673 Жыл бұрын

I really think this term is a disservice to everybody. "The greatest generation" was the generation that lived and worked in deeply racist societies with racial segregation or genocide, keeping half of the world as colonies to US and European economic interests, etc. That generation dropped nuclear bombs, invaded neutral countries, took part in the holocaust (mind you - those were the German members of that generation), firebombed civilians, etc. I think we honestly have to say that each generation is both the greatest (as they have to deal with current affairs) and the worst (because they they somehow never manage to solve problems in a way that doesn't lead to the next problem). That is the tragedy of human existence. I mean what about those generations surviving the last ice-age? I think that pretty amazing. What about those surviving the plague? What of those people in the Middle-East getting rid of crusaders? What about those generations fighting off Ottoman attacks into central Europe? I think calling the people fighting in WW2 the "greatest generation" is rather short sighted. I don't want to belittle what American, British, Soviet, French and so many other soldiers did to fight Nazi Germany - far from it. But please be careful with superlatives.

@speedy_comet Жыл бұрын

Crazy how you can spend a lifetime learning about a single monumental event in history.

@roobear78 Жыл бұрын

This doesnt tell the whole story of the air war, just one mission! and yes it had an impact on bomber commands strategy,but they were alreaqdy flying night missions as the raf already knew they couldnt maintain losses in daylight raids anyway! coupled with things like not hitting civilian targets Also like to add that the americans when they enterd the war totally disregarded british advice and flew daylight raids,suffering appaling losses until long range fighter escort was able to be conducted! Of course the RAF suffered during night raids too as like most forces in war the germans adapted and used night fighters and new tactics!

@mylesdobinson1534 Жыл бұрын

Unsaleable formation, except for the fact they only mounted. 303 machine guns 🔫. The germans must have thought the poms crazy 🤪

@AK-dw8jo Жыл бұрын

As a German I disagree. Don’t ask me what about, I just disagree. Ps: we won after all…

@markgranger9150 Жыл бұрын

WRONG YOU GOT WHIPPED. That is a fact disagree all you want. As an American that lived in Germany for 4 years I know you are not like most Germans you're stupid.

@ihsanullahkhan3422 Жыл бұрын

The Brits have never fought alone They always have a few countries with them In India they could never win alone They always had a policy of divide They would ally them selves with 2 to 3 States and fight one In Battle of waterloo They had many European countries with them Simarly in WW1 AND WW2

@KobayashiMaru- Жыл бұрын

So true ... Only Vietnam proved otherwise....

@xROJANBOx Жыл бұрын

Hindsights a winderful thing huh, as per usual there's a whole lot of opiniated experts in the comment section.

@lancerevell5979 Жыл бұрын

The Brits got cocky, and paid the price.

@frankberry6220 Жыл бұрын

Dear Lance, There are times when being the Good Guys just isn't enough. Frank.

@LoremIpsum1970 Жыл бұрын

British had one hand tied behind their backs by the appeasing European idiots. What else could they do? Neutrality isn't always the best option...

@commando4481 Жыл бұрын

many times the yanks got cocky and paid the price and not just in ww2 either

@robertwoodroffe123 Жыл бұрын

What ! Lost the war ?

@mk6315 Жыл бұрын

@@frankberry6220 “good guys”😂

@DaveSCameron Жыл бұрын

Try, try again and we British certainly did.

@xys7536 Жыл бұрын

I wish more youtube history channels would stop copying each other

@thisisnumber0 Жыл бұрын

Some inappropriate aeroplanes depicted here.

@timbrwolf1121 Жыл бұрын

Modern war can still only be won with air supremacy. Only between nation states though. It does not guarantee victory against a determined insurgency. Russia has yet to achieve air superiority in Ukraine. Thus it has yet to win this war.

@tomseitz Жыл бұрын

The "Shock and Awe" bombing raids of Tehran in Desert Storm did nothing... it inspired the enemy to fight harder.

@timbrwolf1121 Жыл бұрын

I think you have that entirely wrong. Tehran is in Iran and the shock and awe bombings of the gulf War resulted in thousands of troops surrendering

@tomseitz Жыл бұрын

Sorry, I name a spontaneous comment that with a very tired mindset! Thanks for correcting me. I will research this because I do remember seeing an interview with a full analysis of the war and it did include conclusions that the "Shock and Awe" did not live up to the expectations. Have a great day.

@timbrwolf1121 Жыл бұрын

@@tomseitz You may be thinking of strategic bombing. Such as operation rolling thunder and the bombing of dresden to name a couple. "strategy used in total war with the goal of defeating the enemy by destroying its morale, its economic ability to produce and transport materiel to the theatres of military operations, or both." What we did in the gulf war was different. While similar to strategic bombing the point of shock and awe is to cause so much chaos in the military hierarchy of your enemy that the only thing available on the battlefield is chaos. The US military is the progenitor of Chaos as strategy. They live in it.

@tomseitz Жыл бұрын

@@timbrwolf1121 ty... great analysis/commentary!

@deetesmin Жыл бұрын

Just a bunch of unconnected film clips that bore no relation to the subject

@ranjitkarunakar6607 Жыл бұрын

Why not try to stop the attacking bombers, (fully loaded, less maneuverable) instead after they done their damage, (emptied their load and better maneuverable). Can't understand the logic.

@Eric-kn4yn Жыл бұрын

Germans needed time to get to attacking a/c etc

@paktahn Жыл бұрын

the germans most likely didnt have radar in the area at that time so they wouldnt know that the bombers were there until they could see or hear them and by that time its too late they will get to drop their bombs before anyone in a fighter can get to them the only thing you can really do is what the germans did try to shoot them down so that both bomber and crew cant come back and do it again later in the war the germans had radar everywhere so they could know before the bombers got close and could attack them before the bombers got to their targetand even empty of bomb dedicated british bombers were not all that maneuverable

@MrNaKillshots Жыл бұрын

Does anyone else notice, that we're no better off for all the death and destruction?

@thecurrentmoment Жыл бұрын

Well the Nazi's are not control of France, Poland, Czechia etc any more, so the death and destruction from the Western allies has arguably been beneficial

@vorpalblades Жыл бұрын

Haven't seen many actual Nazis about recently...so there's that.

@utley Жыл бұрын

@@vorpalblades except for those in power at the moment like Trudeau, Biden, Xi Xinping, etc etc.

@christopherwedemeyer2993 Жыл бұрын

Follow.the money.

@thecurrentmoment Жыл бұрын

@@christopherwedemeyer2993 I did that and the security guard told me off

@Nnomadd Жыл бұрын

aaahh.... the brits still think they are at the center of it...

@MrNaKillshots Жыл бұрын

Victory against tyranny, to accomodate another one.

@MrNaKillshots Жыл бұрын

@@markgranger9150 know.

@zillsburyy1 Жыл бұрын

it was outdated when WW2 began

@TinyBearTim Жыл бұрын

The 109 wasn’t outdated when it began lol it was one of the best

@zillsburyy1 Жыл бұрын

@TinyBearTim it wasnt slow???!!!

@johnathanczakel5195 Жыл бұрын

Lol

@coling3957 Жыл бұрын

@@TinyBearTim until it took on an Avro Anson - 3 attacked one over the English Channel in june 1940 - 2 were shot down and the 3rd driven off. the Anson returned to base safely.

@crocowithaglocko5876 Жыл бұрын

@@zillsburyy1no I really was not

@sikhombisamakhanya3961 Жыл бұрын

What happened to germany every one is a corward in that country

@doomhippie6673 Жыл бұрын

Are we? Well, maybe we are more cautious because we have seen what the believe in heroism has done to us and turned us into the poster child for cruelty?

@bobns509 Жыл бұрын

british side claim a Victory? Based on what?

@benquinneyiii7941 Жыл бұрын

Not

@Deridus Жыл бұрын

Wish I'd found this channel earlier.

@CREvothegreater Жыл бұрын

britain aint britain no more......

@Eric-kn4yn Жыл бұрын

Lancaster's a far superior a/c of nettlesons group faired no better on daylight augsberg raid 6 0f 12 downed by enemy a/c. a weak point was 303 rifle calibre macine guns on lancs peas shooters

@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын

Eric: l so agree that the defensive armament on British bombers of .303 machine guns was comparatively like pea shooters compared to the 20 & 30 mm cannon carried by the German fighters. . The Americans were much smarter carrying the much more powerful .50 caliber machine guns, & more of them

@samuelgordino Жыл бұрын

@@robertbruce1887 It made no difference. The American bombers were also easy targets for German fighters.

@alessiodecarolis Жыл бұрын

At least the US bombers could defend themselves with their.50s, the .303 on the british bombers were too short ranged against the german fighters, the bf109 had 3 x 20mm guns, it could fire them being out of the range of Wellington 's Mgs.

@samuelgordino Жыл бұрын

@@alessiodecarolis the 20 mm also out ranged the 50s. Of course neither gun was of any use at it maximum range.

@SKILLED521 Жыл бұрын

Being a liberal humanist doesn't automatically exempt you from perceived collective historical shame regarding US and European sins. Pah, say I.

@AD-zo5vp Жыл бұрын

So the British, "multiple political fractions", were keen on bombing cities but the Americans blocked it but then the British didn't want to bomb ships in German ports because of the potential civilian casualties, which they later notoriously couldn't let go off?! 😵‍💫 Armchair historians, you're such an entertainment 😂

@markgranger9150 Жыл бұрын

Not as entertaining. as arm chair idiots.🤔😁☺😋🙄😏😋😂😆😊

@SuperFrank6666 Жыл бұрын

fIRST.

@Gorilla_Jones Жыл бұрын

Dumb

@battshytkrazy156 Жыл бұрын

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ❕ 😵 😱 👀 🤯 👽

@POLMAZURKA Жыл бұрын

over - dramatic speaking....

@babuzzard6470 Жыл бұрын

Typical pommy airforce, think they knew it all.

@schpaff Жыл бұрын

Let the US do it

@ronnieharford3326 Жыл бұрын

Churchill: your going to be attacked Americans: no chance Japan: eat sushi Hawaii Yes let the Americans do it!! 😂😂😂

@markgranger9150 Жыл бұрын

Good.old winnie always drunk and on the run. What a tactical genius and gives credit where it's due. His history books are so accurate and unbiased. Hawaii is now in the United States and Japan ate a ton of shit and Britain is a strong 3 world country.😆😆🤗 If we don't do it nobody will😮🙄😏

@vanmust Жыл бұрын

I am not sure the fault lies entirely on Air Command but it was a general attitude of both RN and RAF ...the RN was thinking the Trafalgar myth that they ruled the waves and this arrogance was extended to the air.....they soon found out the hard way that this was not the case ...cooperation of ship/fighterbomber and fighter/bomber was the key