Letting a client go is never fun. Matthew Weiss offers some food for thought in how to part ways with a client you just can't seem to click with.
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@JohnnyTechAudio2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Matt. I've had my fair share of bad clients and, in my experience, the pricing is very important. Too low of a price, get low quality clients, high price and people that are willing to pay for it usually aren't difficult. For the longest time I was experiencing impostor syndrome from the feedback I used to get from these low-quality clients and it turned out I was already pretty decent. My higher paying clients have all confirmed they love the work. :)
@WeissAdvice2 жыл бұрын
Clients with limited budget are often times not taking the efforts to get an experienced producer and a solid tracking situation. So the sh$x rolls down hill as they say - and it falls onto the mixer (or sometimes even the mastering engineer, yikes) to make up for the issues. Which sometimes is possible, and sometimes isn't.
@DMKahn3 жыл бұрын
More golden nuggets, thanks Matthew for the sound and casual advice! 🙏
@WeissAdvice3 жыл бұрын
Thanks DM!
@NotePadStudio3 жыл бұрын
PERFECT. This is the stuff no one talks about/teaches about.
@WeissAdvice3 жыл бұрын
AND YET, half the business is about getting, working, and maintaining the business...
@JmastaWoods3 жыл бұрын
I think the quote you were looking for is, “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.” ☺️ great video brother!!
@WeissAdvice3 жыл бұрын
That's what I said. I said that.
@carlinistal12952 жыл бұрын
Just today I was considering firing a client and this video pops up! Someone is listening... It really helped with my decission btw. Thanks Matthew, you're the man!
@WeissAdvice2 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm here for. Thank you Carli!
@felipeortiz67623 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have never experienced really bads clients, but the time that I worked as an assistant some artist were rude because i was an "assistant" only. Luckily it never escalated and at the end of the day everyone was happy. It shock me that every rude or bad client, almost everytime is someone who has less experience or someone who lacks talent. On the contrary, almost all experienced and talented people are super nice and they undestand the process and the amount of work you have to do, they respect your time and space.
@WeissAdvice3 жыл бұрын
It's very rare that the successful clients are problematic. Sometimes a little diva-ish, but you know, they earned it. It's the inexperienced ones that tend to have the baggage and doubts and insecurities, which can turn into other negative behaviors. Eventually you will have the experience of working with bad clients, but hopefully you'll be prepared for it.
@DannyWaltMiller3 жыл бұрын
This will help me out so much! Thank you!
@WeissAdvice3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Danny!
@stereotypebeats3 жыл бұрын
Pretty spot on Matt. The more years under your belt you learn all the signs and when you’re working with artist and their dreams it’s easy to take stuff personal. So keeping that relationship is very important. When the vibe isn’t there it really effects the outcome. Great vid 👍🏼
@WeissAdvice3 жыл бұрын
Yessir. It's always good to see things from the clients' shoes as well. A lot of people are self funding and working very hard to pay for their music, which is inherently very personal to them. Makes it easier to figure out if the client is just insecure but otherwise good people, or if they're just not-so-good people.
@IllSoulProductions3 жыл бұрын
Love the tips and I agree on all points 🙌🏿 and that hands on engineers bs 😂 ok. That’s how people lose daylight 😅
@afakamal39533 жыл бұрын
I remember I had such an unpleasant experience with my client years ago while I was working on Fiverr, they gave me an essay as a revision notes :)) and when I did what they asked for the mix sounded wayy worst. Great video as always Mathew, appreciate your effort!
@WeissAdvice3 жыл бұрын
It always does. The problem with a novella of notes is that it forces the mixer to read the paper and make the moves, instead of listening to the record and making the moves. If someone says "I need to feel those drums more", then I LISTEN to the record and I focus on the drums and I figure out what's going to make those drums feel more impactful. Usually just a db or two of level, but sometimes something else. If someone says "I need +3db of 120Hz on the kick, +1.5db of 1kHz on the snare," then I'm not listening to the record. I'm just making those changes as that is specifically what the client asked for. And GENERALLY the client is still not happy because they never even addressed their own needs.
@afakamal39533 жыл бұрын
@@WeissAdvice Exactly. Sometimes I find myself explaining these things to my clients, to be honest, some would understand, but others just keep insisting to follow what they wrote. And the funny thing is that almost every time they contact me a week later and said, after listening to different systems and asked our friend's opinion, we have decided to go with your first mix :))
@MarcGallagherMusic3 жыл бұрын
I’m quite surprised that the “nit picky”revision notes are a bad sign, I would’ve imagined that suggesting things like “the guitar needs to go up a bit at 1KHz” would be solid as a suggestion that shows you’re listening to the mix on a technical level. I have my background and a degree in audio although I admit that I’m not great, but I think it’s a good sign to be talking the same language as the engineer throughout the process, as opposed to talking in vague non-musical terms like “the groove needs to slap more” That being said I have given revision notes on both ends of the spectrum, with specific fine-tuning things I wanted but a fond example of the latter was suggesting “the ukulele needs to be more prominent, it is the acoustic guitar to this songs Wonderwall” and my engineer totally got what I meant
@WeissAdvice3 жыл бұрын
If someone's ears were good enough to be able to make those kinds of discerning notes, why wouldn't they just mix their own record?
@MarcGallagherMusic3 жыл бұрын
@@WeissAdvice in my own experience it’s twofold 1) separating “artist mode” from “technical mode”. I had done 3 albums prior in my school and later unis recording studios. While it was great to have nice recording gear for free, I was at times thinking from an engineer standpoint when I should’ve thought from an artist standpoint. For my last album I could do my thing, let the engineer do his thing, but it was good that we could still talk the same language considering my background and education. 2) just because I know what I’m talking about doesn’t mean I’m the best for the job. I’m very at peace with the fact that I’m not, nor ever will be the best audio engineer in the world. I’m also at peace with the fact that in my city there are engineers better than me who will serve the record better than I can. In the same way that me having perfect pitch and can hear what key/chords a song uses, that doesn’t make me a better musician, the fact I can hear frequency content in a record and it’s parts doesn’t necessarily mean I’m the best fit to sculpt those frequencies and parts in a smooth way that serves the song
@sonnybrasco9735 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a good video bro
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sonny!
@chsprod2 жыл бұрын
Great advices here! I'm curious what you think about this: in my experience, the worst musicians (but worst I mean: playing their instrument right, and not a lot of experience) I've had to work with, and ant nit pickier there was. And I think that's very funny 😄
@WeissAdvice2 жыл бұрын
Of course - because they are aware of the flaws but not aware of their contribution to those flaws. If they could hear the gaps in their own skill they would practice and improve. But they can't. And since they can't, that means the flaws must be due to someone else.
@BigBoysStudios3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Keep those "spidey senses" sharp when you first deal with a client. The red flags aren't hard to identify once you've been round the block once or twice & it's much wiser to nail stuff down rather than hope for the best.
@WeissAdvice3 жыл бұрын
Yea, after a while you begin to say "I've been here before" LOL