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HOW Are These SO DIFFERENT?? | Ping G430 Max 10K vs. Taylormade Qi10 Max | Test + Review

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The Equipment Junkie

The Equipment Junkie

Күн бұрын

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@Station2Station-du2gh
@Station2Station-du2gh 2 ай бұрын
Phenomenal. In a world full of KZfaq hack 20 handicappers, or retailers reviewing clubs, this man is killing it. (is anyone else sick of British reviewers hitting into a net with GC Quad on the floor?)
@TheEquipmentJunkie
@TheEquipmentJunkie Ай бұрын
You’re a goat brother! Always appreciate your support!!!
@clintwilliams2705
@clintwilliams2705 Ай бұрын
Agree!!!!!
@roncurtis224
@roncurtis224 Күн бұрын
Fantastic presentation, can’t believe anyone can talk that fast but really appreciate it lots, of content and information in a relatively short video. Something you hardly ever find on KZfaq.
@brianmichels8941
@brianmichels8941 3 күн бұрын
Absolutely the best, and most honest, comparison review I have ever seen. Bravo!
@saltydog8243
@saltydog8243 2 ай бұрын
I went with the Ping 430 max, Love it...highly recommend. ✌
@ronniejohnson383
@ronniejohnson383 2 ай бұрын
Awesome channel!!! The best current club reviewer hands down.
@TheEquipmentJunkie
@TheEquipmentJunkie Ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Ronnie!!
@die7fox
@die7fox 2 ай бұрын
I just went in for a driver fitting last week, and I tried both of these and a Cobra. I was fitted into the Ping G430 Max with a Sacks Parente Newton Motion shaft. I can't wait to have it in my bag! Mind-blowing.
@stevencarrier5060
@stevencarrier5060 2 ай бұрын
What was the cost of the shaft upgrade?
@die7fox
@die7fox 2 ай бұрын
@@stevencarrier5060 It was $260.00 from my local Club Champion.
@jakehunter8341
@jakehunter8341 2 ай бұрын
Exactly what I have. It’s SO long when I square it up.
@jakehunter8341
@jakehunter8341 2 ай бұрын
@@stevencarrier5060my shaft was $250
@die7fox
@die7fox 2 ай бұрын
@@stevencarrier5060 It was $240.00 at my local Club Champion.
@mrdot1one
@mrdot1one Күн бұрын
Great video, went to a Taylormade demo day at my club a couple of months ago and ended up with the Qi10 Max after gaming a Mizuno ST190 for about 6 years. Gained 20 yards carry, very easy to hit, and it is draw bias, although I'm still able to hold off enough to hit it straight or with a little butter cut when needed. Did not hit anything else, but do wish I had tried the Ping and maybe Titleists newest offering. The Ping is too busy on top for my liking as I prefer a clean look with no distractions. The Qi10 looks great from the top.
@gregarycarr5814
@gregarycarr5814 2 ай бұрын
Great review, but how much sugar or caffeine did you have before this video? Forget ball speed, what is the speech speed! LOL. Thanks for the info...you just earned a new subscriber! :)
@TheEquipmentJunkie
@TheEquipmentJunkie Ай бұрын
Appreciate the support Gregary!! You know what they say, a Ghost Energy a day keeps the doctor away 😂
@Vincent-dc6ku
@Vincent-dc6ku 2 ай бұрын
Good god man, stop for breath, you'll give yourself an episode😮
@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls
@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls 17 күн бұрын
I got so confused 😢
@mikemcshea5919
@mikemcshea5919 29 күн бұрын
Both excellent drivers and I like the turbulators. Anything that makes a driver hit faster and straighter is good with me.
@roywilson1297
@roywilson1297 Ай бұрын
First time viewer, great analysis of the clubs and great to hear someone analyze clubs, not just as a comparison, but also best fit for user.
@Ospreyci
@Ospreyci 2 ай бұрын
Another great video! Thanks the doing that.
@TheEquipmentJunkie
@TheEquipmentJunkie Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jackhadland864
@jackhadland864 2 ай бұрын
If you change the rear weight from 28g to 22g spin will drop & speed will increase with the lighter head
@beauautery4552
@beauautery4552 24 күн бұрын
Interesting. Didn’t notice that but barely tested the driver with the 28g weight. Went lighter so there was less droop and it fixed my low toe strikes. Had the LST previously in the 9° but had to go to 7.5° in the 10k to get my numbers in the sweet spot
@scott48
@scott48 2 ай бұрын
Striping again. 👍🏻. How would you compare the two to Black Ops? 🤔
@TheEquipmentJunkie
@TheEquipmentJunkie Ай бұрын
The standard Black Ops would be the closest and could add a heavier back weight to get it over 10K MOI. While I didn’t do a direct test, I think that model would likely be more a more neutral biased ball flight compared to these. Possibly similar to the Mizuno ST-230 Max.
@swimp15
@swimp15 2 ай бұрын
Reviews are subjective to how you swing. Take it with a grain of salt and set up a fitting with both drivers. Great review of your swing related to the driver! Maybe some others have the same swing and veer towards your recommendation!
@gregschulte2953
@gregschulte2953 Ай бұрын
People love the Ping, I've never gotten along with it.
@brunsie72
@brunsie72 11 күн бұрын
Same for me, tried them both side by side with same shaft, couldn’t get used to the head weight. Love my QI10Max, cranked down to 8.75
@pahhaw4251
@pahhaw4251 14 күн бұрын
Fantastic review. I have the PING G430 9 degree with PING ALTA Quick shaft (45g), stock set up at 9deg, and 3g of lead tape on the bottom heel to give it a bit more draw bias. I like to keep the rear draw/fade weight in the center. So far it’s working well for me; 8 hcp, 90 mph swing speed, getting around 195 carry; I might be able to get faster swing speed, but the forgiveness is better for me than the TM- for a senior gal, I’m happy.😮
@roxchang8293
@roxchang8293 5 күн бұрын
Hey question for you - I'm just getting back into golf so I don't know how much driver swing is. Have not been fitted. I heard 10.5 degree is better for an average swing but I have an opportunity to get a PING G430 9 degree for $200 which seems like a steal right now. Would I be okay with the 9 degree or should I look for a 10.5?
@nwluce1
@nwluce1 2 ай бұрын
I did test the max Qi 10 . Found it too spinny got the QI 10 base model and and completely happy with it.
@stevewenzel4882
@stevewenzel4882 2 ай бұрын
I bought both. I agree with you. The taylormade was more draw biased. I like the ping but every so often the slice seemed to come back. Never had the slice with qi10. I play the taylormade in the lowest setting in the upright option. I will probably try the non upright in the lowest setting to see if it straightens it out just a little bit more.
@danielphang4221
@danielphang4221 Ай бұрын
same experience
@bonscottrocks1728
@bonscottrocks1728 2 ай бұрын
I have a 2016 Ping G400 driver and I'm still pounding the ball 🏌️
@darylhoskins5696
@darylhoskins5696 2 ай бұрын
Have one also!
@darylhoskins5696
@darylhoskins5696 2 ай бұрын
Bon Scott was my Fave too!
@bonscottrocks1728
@bonscottrocks1728 2 ай бұрын
@@darylhoskins5696 just read an article about how the majority of pro golfers don't use the newer or newest equipment, that most don't change their drivers much if at all...🤷‍♂️🏌️
@stevensimpson8231
@stevensimpson8231 2 ай бұрын
I have the 425 but that 400 is one of the best drivers ever made
@timbong1871
@timbong1871 2 ай бұрын
I have a golfing buddy who has the 400. Loves it but every other week he shows up with a new driver trying to find a replacement. Always goes back to the ping 400.
@bsurnsur
@bsurnsur 2 ай бұрын
I'm a certified fitter and I think you need more loft. I don't think the ball is staying in the air long enough.
@dbo4506
@dbo4506 Ай бұрын
I’m a certified comments fitter*** If you were even half decent of a fitter you wouldn’t be making comments like this based on a video. You literally cannot make a valid opinion without seeing the ball flight. Also add loft when he’s already spinning at 3000 😂 bro you ain’t no fitter. But if you are… Be a better fitter and don’t try and fit someone in an comment section ✌️
@bsurnsur
@bsurnsur Ай бұрын
@@dbo4506 Well "Bro" after 55 years in the industry and untold fitter trainings from the top 4 brands I'm pretty sure I qualify as a certified fitter. As for ball height the angle of the video and the tracer plainly show the height. As for spin, iAs a fitter if all you are doing is trying to reduce spin, then "Bro" you ain't no fitter. Yes more loft will create more spin and more spin keeps the ball in the air longer. This guy is an accomplished player with high ball speed. You can tell by the tracer that his angle of attack is excellent but the ball is flattening out to quickly robbing him of distance. As long as he is hitting up on the ball then spin is secondary to direction and distance. I've seen it many times, trade 500 revolutions of spin for 15 more yards of distance. Finally loft could be accomplished by a ball with more spin. Sorry I upset you but you don't have a clue about all the nuances of fitting
@aluminumfalcon552
@aluminumfalcon552 25 күн бұрын
@@bsurnsur 🫳 🎤
@briangastaldi6136
@briangastaldi6136 2 ай бұрын
Just subscribed…..It is …SO…damn nice to finally not hear an English accent while someone reviews equipment!!! 😂
@gregmillard9072
@gregmillard9072 2 ай бұрын
😂
@martywize5909
@martywize5909 2 ай бұрын
I think you’ll find you yanks have the ‘accent’. We English people speak English, end of..
@MW-sk2fd
@MW-sk2fd 2 ай бұрын
lol it is your language so I guess we have the accent.
@user-ug4wi1qe8u
@user-ug4wi1qe8u Ай бұрын
@@martywize5909 Whilst I tend to disagree old chap, you do have a massive impact on our vocabulary if not on understanding what the fook you are saying.
@josephroberts6865
@josephroberts6865 13 күн бұрын
Interesting video. I like the absolute truth about the launch numbers relative to your action. You swing the club very nicely with excellent speed. But your carry numbers sound more like they should than what seems like jacked up numbers of tour pros. From a commentary stand point you might consider becoming an auctioneer if your current profession doesn’t work out. Great explanations and lots of detail.
@bradboan8880
@bradboan8880 Ай бұрын
This is an awesome review. With the head weight differences, I'm curious if both of these drivers were tested at the same length? Ping drivers (and higher MOI heads in general) can get heavy if you're over 45 1/4 inches.
@jetdr
@jetdr 2 ай бұрын
Both great drivers, let's get real though, no such thing as an easy forgiving driver!!!
@marcoscado5478
@marcoscado5478 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always! What would happen if we switched the stock 28 gram back weight in the G430 to the 22 gram weight from the LST? I know SW would come down but what can we expect performance wise?
@grindano
@grindano 2 ай бұрын
Really it would just be a little less forgiving, and maybe a little lower launching!
@ExitThirteen
@ExitThirteen 2 ай бұрын
I tried this, with both the 25g weight from the G430 Max, and the 22g weight from the G430 LST, and what I noticed out of mine was that I dropped a little over 1 degree of launch, and lowered my spin rate about 300-350 rpm with the 22g weight. I'm currently running the 25g weight on mine, at standard 9 degree loft, and that seems to be my sweet spot right now. But going with the 22g weight should net LST-like performance.
@TheEquipmentJunkie
@TheEquipmentJunkie Ай бұрын
Performance wise (strike location the same) likely would see a small drop in both launch and spin 👍
@rickyoung436
@rickyoung436 2 ай бұрын
The head weight difference is definitely skewing the results a bit. Either lighten the Ping or shorten the shaft a bit to match the swing weights. I think Ping and Cobra promote going slightly shorter driver lengths to increase center face contact which provides the best ball speeds and results.
@Trump2024Kentucky
@Trump2024Kentucky 2 ай бұрын
But what about the average golfer with a 90-95 mph swing speed??? That what most people will want to know.
@danielphang4221
@danielphang4221 Ай бұрын
When I swing 100mph on the Qi10 max was getting 148mph ball speed but spin was still similar at low 3000s and very much overdraw for me. Wanted to like it bc it was so easy to get speed but hated the spin and left miss
@erock1070
@erock1070 Ай бұрын
I’m a ping guy and swing around 90-92 mph. I went with the Qi max. The ping spun pretty low and. The TM kept the ball in the air. I’m driving it better than I’ve ever have
@jeffking29
@jeffking29 26 күн бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks!!!
@CharlotteK2008
@CharlotteK2008 2 ай бұрын
Funny how it’s such a personal thing. I couldn’t stop turning the ping left. Qi10 was just a straight bomber for me with Ventus black 6x…. Ping sounds so tinny in comparison
@joshpashia637
@joshpashia637 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm a shorter player with a 44inch shaft and the Qi10 LS can really put it out there for me best so far is 336y on a lengthy par4. Pretty dang good for a 44inch shaft lol
@CharlotteK2008
@CharlotteK2008 2 ай бұрын
@@joshpashia637 Yeah I wouldn’t get that distance unless I got 40 yards of run as I play in the Scotland and it’s mainly wet. 300 is about it for me realistically. Just a great driver tho
@joshpashia637
@joshpashia637 2 ай бұрын
@@CharlotteK2008 I hit that on a hilly dry fairway had a ton of roll up the hill before the green though.
@MyDmarte
@MyDmarte Ай бұрын
For my money PING makes the best drivers and putters.
@MrBigspendn
@MrBigspendn 2 ай бұрын
Ping G400 Max is 10k also. I think first on the market years ago.
@DavidValentini-l4r
@DavidValentini-l4r 28 күн бұрын
Yes but only in the fade setting (if I recall correctly?). Great point either way!
@zacharymilos392
@zacharymilos392 2 ай бұрын
Just got the 10k, coming from AI Max and 💎💎💎. Feels more forgiving and does spin a little more. Balls fly very straight and i almost never feel the head twist. Needs a counter balanced shaft or play it 1/2 or even 3/4" short.
@martymcflydouble007
@martymcflydouble007 Ай бұрын
nice review. just curious.. it's hard to tell but on the tee height how could it change the numbers if you made a quarter inch adjustment up
@TheEquipmentJunkie
@TheEquipmentJunkie Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Strike locations were pretty much right in-line with the CG on the solid strikes. Any shots that I, "low faced" were simply swing errors that I do not believe are related to tee height.
@jimchapmaniii1779
@jimchapmaniii1779 29 күн бұрын
I only care about if i hit it strait and if i can gain yards
@toadamine
@toadamine 3 күн бұрын
PING sure looks better... the last good looking Driver from Taylormade is the SIM... though i will say its a ton better than the Stealth... Callaway has been pushing out turds as of late also... their last sexy one was the Rogue... the new drivers all look like balloons nowdays... all smooth and bulbous instead of the streamlined/wing shaped look like the older ones... and PING... it actually looks "stealth" like an airplane... the taylormade "stealth" is anything but stealthy in the looks category... it is flashy and gaudy...
@Listman11
@Listman11 Ай бұрын
It looks like the Ping is slightly longer. Let’s see how they perform.
@billenright2788
@billenright2788 2 ай бұрын
good stuff. what course is this??
@brentbillings2298
@brentbillings2298 Ай бұрын
So would lighterweight in the head of 10k max help with swing speed? I bought the ping 10k max?
@ian2593
@ian2593 10 күн бұрын
Nice review but I think you need to have a high-mid handicapper testing as well. The configuration that you are using would not be applicable to them and not be helpful in selecting a club. As an 18 handicapper whose slices off the tee have be fixed by a draw biased driver (g430 SFT). I can't attest to the need for feedback from similarly skilled golfers. All the best.
@cjgooding4512
@cjgooding4512 2 ай бұрын
Very curious about that comment at the end that says I wouldn't be fitted into a Max driver to begin with. I'm skeptical of this and not understanding fully. I have a similar swing speed 115 to 122 and it's a violent swing so fast tempo. I'm only 5'5" but have quite the aggressive swing. Yeah so I'm like a three to six handicap I want the most fucking forgiving driver on the market is what I would think. I don't know I'm either going to buy the 10K Max or the new Callaway triple diamond Max but you can't find a good review on the trouble diamond Max right now
@diemos322jones9
@diemos322jones9 16 күн бұрын
Did this guy just say, "I'm sweating like a hawk"?
@toddbevan4414
@toddbevan4414 2 ай бұрын
Great Video. It looks to me like you are teeing too low. The tee is not moving, so the ball is picked clean from the tee. That means that the ball is low on the face. The great drivers pop the tee in the air after contact.
@garysimons1608
@garysimons1608 Ай бұрын
This guy talks faster than my girlfriend!
@MrKillahippo
@MrKillahippo Ай бұрын
don't let them meet Bro
@robertbeato2795
@robertbeato2795 2 ай бұрын
Went with the qi10 core model. Freakin love it. Had the g430 max prior
@nisch2379
@nisch2379 Ай бұрын
Went with ping G430 max 10k love it but it cracked on the head in less than a month. That sucks to pay so much and this happens. I should have stuck with TM
@Sky-gt4fp
@Sky-gt4fp Ай бұрын
Everyone online has been complaining about Taylor made quality control being horrible lately
@marksamuelson2378
@marksamuelson2378 2 ай бұрын
I’ve played ping all my life. Now 66, I switched to the TM Qi10 because of distance and control. I added 25 yrds off the tee, increased my swing speed from 102 to 107+. Looking a 3 wood now.
@marksamuelson2378
@marksamuelson2378 2 ай бұрын
That said, I did break the face 1 month in. TM replaced without question.
@jtpalooki7757
@jtpalooki7757 2 ай бұрын
Last time I checked there is no box on a scorecard to put driving distance..5 extra yards?… I wanna see 5 less strokes!… I’m 62 and I’m sticking with my G20 since I don’t see 5 strokes in any modern driver over the G20! Now, wedges are a different story 🤔
@marksamuelson2378
@marksamuelson2378 2 ай бұрын
@@jtpalooki7757 well sir, I hit the ball in the fairway more with the TM vs the ping and with more distance. As such, I’m using one less club on my approach. Resulting in an improved GIR and My handicap is now a 1.
@jtpalooki7757
@jtpalooki7757 2 ай бұрын
@@marksamuelson2378and when were you last a 6?
@marksamuelson2378
@marksamuelson2378 2 ай бұрын
@@jtpalooki7757 6 handicap? A year ago maybe. When I was last fitted was almost 3 years ago. I was a 12-15 handicap.
@beauautery4552
@beauautery4552 24 күн бұрын
The toe misses with the G430 10k are actually unreal. The spin says really close to where it should be and the ball speed retention is crazy
@Fze5656
@Fze5656 2 ай бұрын
Love my turbulators. Aerodynamic weapon
@zacarich
@zacarich 2 ай бұрын
What about the part of quality. Taylortrash will crack and fall apart. I sell clubs and they are total garbage
@user-ug4wi1qe8u
@user-ug4wi1qe8u Ай бұрын
Sell me some good garbage bub.
@charlesw665
@charlesw665 Күн бұрын
If Ben Shapiro was reviewing golf clubs...
@abuomar4995
@abuomar4995 18 күн бұрын
How much of human factor is affecting your evaluation? We all know we don’t always swing the same. Perhaps using mechanical hitters is more accurate. By the way, you can become auction announcer!
@terrykay7709
@terrykay7709 Ай бұрын
Cobra Darkspeed ls would blow them away 😂😅😊
@terrykay7709
@terrykay7709 Ай бұрын
And a ventus 6x black would blow them away 😅😂😊
@AlacarteTV
@AlacarteTV 2 ай бұрын
what do you think about ai smoke?
@user-ug4wi1qe8u
@user-ug4wi1qe8u Ай бұрын
A good cigar is better.
@nickmillar9651
@nickmillar9651 2 ай бұрын
The ping is more long gated head
@jetro7349
@jetro7349 2 ай бұрын
Ping 10k > BRNR Mini > Qi10 Max
@CharlotteK2008
@CharlotteK2008 2 ай бұрын
🤔
@user-td7nr4ef2v
@user-td7nr4ef2v 6 күн бұрын
Callaway smoke better
@HelptheBroncos
@HelptheBroncos 2 ай бұрын
I'm letting you now. Every head is different for every different shaft. Stop. My titliest 910 driver with a 65 gram shaft will smoke all these ....post about the shafts. C mon man
@68kcfan
@68kcfan 2 ай бұрын
What does that mean different head for different shaft? It's the exact head. The shaft is a personal choice
@HelptheBroncos
@HelptheBroncos 2 ай бұрын
@68kcfan ...exactly...the shafts are a personal tool for different swings. Nobody swings the same. Feel and weight. It's complicated as you know. I'd never promote a driver head. I'd promote the shafts.
@erikbolvig4723
@erikbolvig4723 10 күн бұрын
Talks to fast and shows no charts to see numbers
@Gatorgolfusa
@Gatorgolfusa 2 ай бұрын
PXG next! 🐊🏌⛳️🦅🇺🇲
@chrisb.4496
@chrisb.4496 27 күн бұрын
Lowest torque shaft you can find......
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