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HOW ATHLETES BEAT DRUG TESTS! 💉

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Pete Rubish

Pete Rubish

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@noahdiroff
@noahdiroff 2 жыл бұрын
I understand you do it to boost views/monetization but man do I hate releasing ten snippets of the same interview
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
I'm only going to do two clips per week now. It wasn't even boosting views really. Only the Larry Wheels ones. That will leave plenty of the podcast left untouched moving forward.
@michaellloyd1259
@michaellloyd1259 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree. I often don't have time or may not be interested in an entire interview but clips of specific topics I may watch.
@PUBLICnoose
@PUBLICnoose 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeteRubish thanks Pete. Yeah i watch the podcasts straight through while im at work or hanging out
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaellloyd1259 I'll take everything into consideration buddy. A good balance between the two seems to be the way to go here.
@stuffbenlikes
@stuffbenlikes 2 жыл бұрын
I don't mind it at all. A lot of times I have no desire to listen to the whole thing, so it's nice to have curated snippets available. It's super, super easy NOT to watch them if you don't want to. I can teach you if you need help... Just do... Nothing! And you won't have to watch them.
@tartalja
@tartalja 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine some previous guests are sweating at this convo.
@TheLiftingGamer
@TheLiftingGamer 2 жыл бұрын
lol true :)
@tariqo16
@tariqo16 2 жыл бұрын
🤔
@wigletron2846
@wigletron2846 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. That dude that benches 6 days a week got super defensive when Pete said his low T levels were suspect.
@dansmith9724
@dansmith9724 2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine carb loading with insulin would greatly improve leverages just like being on gear. Post workout insulin and carbs will help recovery so powerlifters can train more frequently too.
@yoeyyoey8937
@yoeyyoey8937 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t spoil the fun mf
@logitech12345678910
@logitech12345678910 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I get so annoyed with people who swear left and right that someone is natty. I'm 36 now and have been lifting since I was 13 years old. It's not all that difficult to tell when someone is on gear and when someone is not. If tested athletes are getting numbers anywhere close to untested athletes then you know it's a bunch of BS. I'm so tired of people who think so and so has elite genetics and that's why they look and perform like a top tiered athlete on loads of gear. Those people barely exist in real life.
@Jeneric81
@Jeneric81 2 жыл бұрын
I think rather that the potency in steroids is shown in that untested lifters, who are a much more niche and less competitive part of powerlifting, are close or above the level of the tested federations where the talent pool is globally infinitely deeper and more competitive.
@rumana7103
@rumana7103 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeneric81 No it isn't wtf. One look through open powerlifting would show you untested lifters are neither a more "niche" or a "less competitive" part of powerlifting. Wtf are you talking about? It is also well known among powerlifters that untested federations overall have much more fierce competition, for fucksakes untested lifters are literally the ones who made this sport popular and what it is today and untested has some of the most well known athletes even in social media and in the powerlifting world. Niche and less competitive my ass, you have no idea what you are talking about. Stop lying to yourself just to rationalise a viewpoint.
@Jeneric81
@Jeneric81 Жыл бұрын
@@rumana7103 Literally nothing you said is accurate.
@mattepton5731
@mattepton5731 2 жыл бұрын
Coach Steve smiles and says “ That’s what I do ! “ that made my day man…😎
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, that was hilarious!
@kelainefes
@kelainefes 2 жыл бұрын
"Yep you can! that was my job description!"
@jocaingles8464
@jocaingles8464 2 жыл бұрын
I love these snipets of the podcast. I can always search back and rewatch exactly the part I want
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, noted buddy! Thank you!
@PowerPerPound
@PowerPerPound 2 жыл бұрын
Steve is always full of information. I'll have to watch this full interview for sure.
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support my friend!
@chrishayes5755
@chrishayes5755 2 жыл бұрын
never heard of this guy he's really interesting though. very knowledgeable.
@666Necropsy
@666Necropsy 2 жыл бұрын
this was a fun interview even with him limiting himself. i cant wait to watch the whole show. great job guys.
@666Necropsy
@666Necropsy 2 жыл бұрын
i missed this live. i really hope you post more interviews like this, so great.
@stevenhewes1990
@stevenhewes1990 2 жыл бұрын
If you take test synthesised from animal cholesterol then it doesn't matter if you fail the T to ET ratio. Because when they send off your sample for more invasive testing you will pass because it isn't synthetically derived test.
@Masterofmonotony
@Masterofmonotony 2 жыл бұрын
I have ADHD and I actually only watch these snippets, and if I feel that they were interesting I usually get interested enough to watch the whole interview/video.
@paardenkrachtakahorsepower9966
@paardenkrachtakahorsepower9966 2 жыл бұрын
In Holland they only test the nr 1. at nationals in each weightclass... You could be competing all year round and be on drugs..
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, there is a lack of out of competition testing for sure
@bigal8974
@bigal8974 2 жыл бұрын
I had a conversation with Loie Simmons in early 2000s. I asked him if it was possible to total 10 times bodyweight. He said highly unlikely. At that point in time, he did not know of any one doing 10 times bodyweight unless they were on something. I believe there may be genetic freak outliers that could do it but rare. He also stated he believed all the top 10 lifts in each weight class in the old powerlifting USA magazine were probably on something. I think just as there is a mix for bodybulders, there is a mix for powerlifters giving them the same 10% to 20% increase on lifts.
@wigletron2846
@wigletron2846 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't John Hack hit a 10× bodyweight total?
@bigal8974
@bigal8974 2 жыл бұрын
@@wigletron2846 I think he did.
@joshuadaniel6496
@joshuadaniel6496 2 жыл бұрын
They're ALL on something.
@Kaledrone
@Kaledrone 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuadaniel6496 Pretty much, astounding how so many people can't seem to accept this
@benhayslip8421
@benhayslip8421 2 жыл бұрын
always good to see Steve
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Great guy!
@jrwitherite12
@jrwitherite12 2 жыл бұрын
These short clips are great. I’ll watch a whole podcast then go back and watch parts again I wanted to pay closer attention to. Listening to these while working are great
@yoeyyoey8937
@yoeyyoey8937 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Pete you’re amazing for this. Keep up the good work
@TurnTheStoveOnBlaze
@TurnTheStoveOnBlaze 2 жыл бұрын
Should have asked him how how people in the USAPL/IPF are beating drug test. I’m pretty sure he has a few clients in our federation.
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
I sort of got into that, but he said he doesn't work with powerlifters too much, although he's open to it.
@juvedoo99
@juvedoo99 2 жыл бұрын
Could be bribes similar to the IWF debacle regarding doping.
@1baby
@1baby 2 жыл бұрын
@@juvedoo99 In weightlifting the athletes had entire governments backing them, there is nothing of the sort in PL.
@juvedoo99
@juvedoo99 2 жыл бұрын
@@1baby Maybe not with governments, that’s a stretch. But briberies aren’t things that happen only within government bodies. So, I don’t think it’s out of pocket to say that there could be briberies going on. Would it be to the degree that weightlifting has had, of course not, that’s idiotic. But I do suspect there is some PL federation bribery going on.
@mrgreatdude2
@mrgreatdude2 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. More of these with Steve
@Asif_Asif_
@Asif_Asif_ 2 жыл бұрын
Pete considering the difference between when you were juiced and how you are now: I cannot understand surprise or your thinking. I recommend a video on YT called ''RX'D Radio E280'' Broderick Chavez is the guest. For a reasoned look at this subject I suggest watching @ 33:19 to 43:55.
@termenzor
@termenzor 2 жыл бұрын
This doesn't really address OMTs. I think everybody knows you can to a certain extent beat a test, but how do you beat a test you don't know is coming?
@BUFFALO_cougar_slayer
@BUFFALO_cougar_slayer 7 ай бұрын
If you’re a nobody athlete? You fail If you’re, say, an NFL player who makes millions per year and can afford to slip the right people 10 or 15 grand here and there, then you get notified under the table about the “random” drug test well in advance Money talks
@trc7343
@trc7343 6 ай бұрын
@@BUFFALO_cougar_slayer i have seen this first hand
@dansmith9724
@dansmith9724 2 жыл бұрын
I probably don't have this 100% correct but read/heard that injectable testosterone they can detect as its vegetable source but a smart chemist can make a animal type testosterone that would pass a drug test. But there would still be a testosterone epitestosterone ratio issue. I'm probably not using the correct wording but hopefully get my drift if anyone could clarify it. I also remember 20yrs ago oral testosterone like andriol gel caps can be used to beat a drug test as they are metabolized fast, I guess not too different to a shot of suspension but with less pain. I'd think GH would benefit powerlifters as it increases recovery plus is known for strengthening tendons and ligaments. Just my opinion.
@kelainefes
@kelainefes 2 жыл бұрын
It is true that "regular" synthetic Testosterone can be distinguished from endogenous Testosterone via the "carbon isotope ratio test". It is also true that it is possible to synth Testosterone from animal fats, and that would beat said test. BUT, the carbon isotope ratio test is only used when an athlete fails the T to EpiT ratio test, which is not considered proof of taking Testosterone by WADA/USADA.
@mattepton5731
@mattepton5731 2 жыл бұрын
I’m here and I’m ready! Thank you 🙏! Have a great day my brother’s!
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always my friend!
@chipedalgo3232
@chipedalgo3232 2 жыл бұрын
Spilled the beans without spilling the beans,,,, so close ,,, where's part 2 lol
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
I'll release the full thing on Friday!
@mongoosekhan3079
@mongoosekhan3079 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete, talking in front of the microphone will give you better quality than talking on top of it. I made that mistake before. It makes a huge difference. Point the face of the mic, not the head, at your mouth. I know in this vid, the software defaulted to the built in mic, so I am not talking about this vid in particular. I am saying in general. Best of luck Pete, we all enjoy your content!
@davenportbarbell734
@davenportbarbell734 2 жыл бұрын
Israel Adesanya was doing test suspension that’s how he got that gyno not from smoking weed lololol
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
Who knows at this point brother!
@tariqo16
@tariqo16 2 жыл бұрын
Steve keeps on younger day by day
@Bigramt
@Bigramt 2 жыл бұрын
I know a guy that was on used test suspension, gh and insulin. I think he was also using other shit that wasn't on the WADA list, some designer shit over the shelf. He broke national records for u23 powerlifting and I think it was 800kg at 105kg if I remember correctly? This was in 2013
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
That is pretty dang crazy, but nothing surprises me anymore!
@Bigramt
@Bigramt 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeteRubish he told me a few months after the comp. He looked like a bodybuilder and he competed in a nabba show 6 months later. He definitely was tested and passed Bloodwork should be used imo
@MIbra96
@MIbra96 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid man. Very informative.
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for tuning in!
@robertobrien2312
@robertobrien2312 2 жыл бұрын
They should just make all federations in powerlifting and bodybuilding none drug tested. Like come on. Everyone is on something. It's so true. Steve was like this has been going down for ages.
@uptome4399
@uptome4399 2 жыл бұрын
Or people should stop peeing in the pool and being dirtbags. If you are cheating in a tested competition in this sports your pure scum imo.
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
It's tough, because some want the option, but it's also hard to know who to believe.
@robertobrien2312
@robertobrien2312 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeteRubish Also thanks again for the advice with 45 degree lift. Amazing
@SLF1990
@SLF1990 2 жыл бұрын
Steve is always one of the go to guys with pharmacology, good stuff having him on Pete.
@karangupta2292
@karangupta2292 2 жыл бұрын
if you compete at state meets they will not test you. I broke all the state records in my weight class and I was never drug tested. Im assuming its becuase my lifts werent extraordinary, but if its a tested meet, I would think they would test the people who did well
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you'd definitely think the best guys at a meet would get tested
@karangupta2292
@karangupta2292 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeteRubish i think 1 of the reasons that they dont is because if someone doesnt look unnatty and their numbers arent crazy, the meet directors wont want to lose money paying for drug testing. Makes this already small, probably low paying sport, more profitable
@KillianDefaoite
@KillianDefaoite 2 жыл бұрын
At least in my fed (USPA) they test the top 10% of competitors by DOTS in their tested meets. However this is urine testing, which is obviously not as good as blood testing.
@karangupta2292
@karangupta2292 2 жыл бұрын
@@KillianDefaoite my first meet was with the USPA and there was a kid who was 22, weighed 220, and deadlifted 804. He was not popped in the tested meet and moved on to compete in the ghost clash
@KillianDefaoite
@KillianDefaoite 2 жыл бұрын
@@karangupta2292 Congrats on your 3 plate bench by the way man would love to get there myself this year
@dayyyvid
@dayyyvid 2 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see how random, out of season testing is beaten. I know it's very popular in Canada's CPU
@Danielllllewis
@Danielllllewis 2 жыл бұрын
Right, thats why there are very few good tested lifters in canada
@dusksoldier
@dusksoldier 2 жыл бұрын
I know when Kelly Branton was popped, it was because they tested him 2x in one month. One of the strategies seemed to be waiting until after your out of meet test to use certain substances.
@Danielllllewis
@Danielllllewis 2 жыл бұрын
@@dusksoldier the best part is that Kelly Branton had been performing at a similar level for years before finally getting caught
@steveliveshere
@steveliveshere 2 жыл бұрын
Who are these 2 prison dudes?
@iceicebabewow855
@iceicebabewow855 3 ай бұрын
I'm doing a research but cannot find how long mk677 and Cardarine can show up in Urine if taken for 2 Weeks for example. You have any knowledge on this?
@Answeriz42
@Answeriz42 2 жыл бұрын
Questions that I have: 1. Could GNRH be used instead of recombinant FSH and LH? Since it is still bioidentical but upstream to LH and FSH? 2. I see some forms of DHEA are banned and tested for, but what about pregnenolone? If you dose that you would increase neurosteroid production substantially, especially things like endogenous DHEA. Only thing is that would make DHEA-S and pregnenolone go high on a blood test but do they even look at that in wada blood testing? Even so most powerlifting testing is urine so I would assume that would be very effective to add to the stack. 3. What dose of test suspension clears in 3-5 days? I assume if you load up a gram of test suspension it would take much longer to clear than just 100mg or so, so what is the max dose someone would use in that protocol assuming good kidney function?
@solidstatejake
@solidstatejake 2 жыл бұрын
To your first question, I think it’s dependent upon your pituitary’s ability to produce. I.e. the limiting factor of gnrh is your pituitary’s output potential.
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
I would have to get Steve on here to answer these. These are above my level of knowledge on the subject.
@Answeriz42
@Answeriz42 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeteRubish no worries, hopefully Steve sees this. Was a great discussion to listen to as always.
@totallyraw1313
@totallyraw1313 2 жыл бұрын
You will still fail the testosterone:epitestosterone ratio test even if it's cleared because your LH will still be profoundly suppressed.
@Answeriz42
@Answeriz42 2 жыл бұрын
@@totallyraw1313 that’s completely incorrect. GnRH increases LH and FSH endogenously, and you wouldn’t fail the T:E ratio as you would be stimulating production naturally. HCG would not do this as it acts on the receptor in place of LH and will show suppression. Theoretically GnRH administration shouldn’t, but what I’m asking is if that’s feasible for athletes or if that would show up any ways.
@GuruAmeenAlai
@GuruAmeenAlai 2 жыл бұрын
I like you Steve. 💪🏼🤛🏼
@Think_Dig_Find
@Think_Dig_Find Жыл бұрын
Let him speak goddamit
@bogdanvukoicic1998
@bogdanvukoicic1998 2 жыл бұрын
Coach Steve should make some contect for strenght sport deff😂👍🏻
@ITSGLENN83
@ITSGLENN83 Ай бұрын
How about hair follicle testing? How can you beat that for TRT, DHT, TREN AND anavar?
@davidisthis
@davidisthis 8 ай бұрын
I think pretty much all testing is metabolite testing. You do realize metabolite is a product of metabolism. As in digestive system. Hence urine samples.
@mikecru9229
@mikecru9229 3 ай бұрын
Who's here after Ryan Garcia
@nhfgchj8776
@nhfgchj8776 Ай бұрын
How long from last shot of testosterone enanthate for not being detectable in urine test using QTRAP chromatography? We talkin about trt dose
@andythompson4448
@andythompson4448 2 жыл бұрын
What you mean test base .. he said it’s an oil ..if you want to subject your self to inflammation, he talking about the oil from test cyp or enanthate ?
@magnus6231
@magnus6231 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete, do you know about Bodybuilding/Nutrition guru Taeian Clark ? Has a good hair loss routine also!
@evansmith2611
@evansmith2611 Ай бұрын
What about hair fulical testing
@GankZ9911
@GankZ9911 5 ай бұрын
I will say that, GH has since come om the drug list..
@steve0ization
@steve0ization 2 жыл бұрын
For the algorithm
@jimirsayssponsor5844
@jimirsayssponsor5844 26 күн бұрын
Next time add 5 words or more it’ll help even more when commenting for algo
@jaysencorbett4974
@jaysencorbett4974 11 ай бұрын
Iv hydration before the test will pass a piss test
@tariqo16
@tariqo16 2 жыл бұрын
oh nooooooooooo steve oh noooooooooooooo you know them lol
@amadeus5403
@amadeus5403 2 жыл бұрын
My total testosterone was 297 per D/L but I don’t feel depressed or have low energy. I wonder if my low numbers was a one time thing???
@604Jake
@604Jake 2 жыл бұрын
What time of day was the test taken?
@666Necropsy
@666Necropsy 2 жыл бұрын
stop guessing. know. get tested.
@amadeus5403
@amadeus5403 2 жыл бұрын
@@604Jake morning
@amadeus5403
@amadeus5403 2 жыл бұрын
@@666Necropsy this was the test results . I was shocked . I may need to test again
@AscendedBeyond
@AscendedBeyond 2 жыл бұрын
If you are asymptomatic don't bother. What's the point unless you are looking for an excuse to get on TRT. Eat better food train and sleep well and your levels will shoot up.
@mancsy3262
@mancsy3262 2 жыл бұрын
How long for test prop to clear from urine
@Thundertepi
@Thundertepi 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why you have out of competition test and best lifters on skandinavia get them a lot. if you are using and get 7-8 ofc test you will get busted at some point.
@JanneSalmela
@JanneSalmela Жыл бұрын
We had one elite lifter in Sweden who could use drugs for more than a decade before he was busted in out of competition test.
@Thundertepi
@Thundertepi Жыл бұрын
@@JanneSalmela did he get lot of out of competition tests?
@JanneSalmela
@JanneSalmela Жыл бұрын
Yes, probably the most tested of all swedish powerlifters because he was the best lifter then
@Thundertepi
@Thundertepi Жыл бұрын
@@JanneSalmela ok good thing he got caught.
@xxx0ox0
@xxx0ox0 2 жыл бұрын
Can't hear very well unfortunately
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
my microphone wasn't getting picked up, it defaulted to my computer mic. but steve's was good
@pholam3900
@pholam3900 2 жыл бұрын
Dang
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for commenting!
@jamesjohnson7905
@jamesjohnson7905 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder it gonadorelin is detectable
@Tinfoiledhat
@Tinfoiledhat 2 жыл бұрын
They're all on steroids
@scottpope6210
@scottpope6210 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to just loving lifting? Guess l am stupid dinosaur.
@AndrogenReceptor01
@AndrogenReceptor01 2 жыл бұрын
Vigorous Cap!
@peaceboi704
@peaceboi704 Жыл бұрын
What about urine drug test for TRT or testosterone for employment? Does that show up on the drug test?
@fresh0678
@fresh0678 Жыл бұрын
No sir.
@fresh0678
@fresh0678 Жыл бұрын
Some police departments actually test for AAS, and I've heard of some fire departments. But usual employment tests are for rec drugs.
@patrikoliver6484
@patrikoliver6484 Жыл бұрын
@@fresh0678 weird how in IPF they test for steroids via Urine testing. How come it don’t show up then?
@fresh0678
@fresh0678 Жыл бұрын
@@patrikoliver6484 if I were to go try to get a job at a store, or an auto part store, or at a gas station; they only test for recreational drugs. It is usually a standard dip urine test. Even jobs I've applied for that sent to a lab, they only test for rec drugs. Not peds
@patrikoliver6484
@patrikoliver6484 Жыл бұрын
@@fresh0678 I know but I was asking for IPF powerlifting Feds, they test for steroids via URINE. And you said test didn’t show up on urine tests
@Gratefully-
@Gratefully- 2 жыл бұрын
Forest Gump that’s all I have to say
@joshuadaniel6496
@joshuadaniel6496 2 жыл бұрын
Natural strength and physique sports are beyond stupid. Nobody cares about them and most of the people that compete in them aren't even natural. Testing any of these types of competitions is asinine.
@Ivanovichx
@Ivanovichx Жыл бұрын
Who's here after Greg's video? 🙋
@marcellocalza8041
@marcellocalza8041 2 жыл бұрын
Algo
@PeteRubish
@PeteRubish 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@Xplode101
@Xplode101 Жыл бұрын
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