Derek Explains How Athletes Get Past PED Testing

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Zack Telander

Zack Telander

Күн бұрын

Derek from More Plates More Dates sits down to chat with Zack Telander about the mistakes, lies and stupidity in fitness, steroid use and the media around this.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:13 - Transparent Labs
01:05 - Bodybuilding Steroid Myths and Lies
03:48 - Gary Brecka Making Up Science
08:09 - The Balco Scandal
09:46 - Designer Drugs For Sports

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@jjboy157
@jjboy157 7 ай бұрын
Derek seems like such a chill dude. He works out at a gym nearby my place, but even there there’s quite a few dudes who claim natural and are comically huge. I always think it’s funny how in spite of how big of a name he’s developed and how much more educated he’s making the community there’s still tons of fake naturals even in the real world literally in the gym he trains at lol
@twowiseguys666
@twowiseguys666 7 ай бұрын
Dudes want to impress everyone at their local gym and pretend to be natural lol. Just an ego thing
@jmass4207
@jmass4207 7 ай бұрын
@@twowiseguys666I mean why admit you took a shortcut when you don’t have to (morality aside of course).
@glenoh88
@glenoh88 7 ай бұрын
@@twowiseguys666it also could be that they didn’t get the stuff legally…
@twowiseguys666
@twowiseguys666 7 ай бұрын
@glenoh88 maybe but most the time nobody cares about that. Same dudes will be talking about taking recreational drugs without an issue lol
@glenoh88
@glenoh88 7 ай бұрын
@@twowiseguys666 until they get arrested or followed because the feds want to get to the dealers supplier, that’s how the feds get informants.
@mattpen7966
@mattpen7966 7 ай бұрын
zack nailed it when he says some people cant own up to their mistakes
@nordics834
@nordics834 6 ай бұрын
zack is a grifter and jewish, double whammy
@KRH2725
@KRH2725 7 ай бұрын
The cream was epitestosterone cream, because it was designed to evade the Test:Epitest ratio test that is/was used as a flag for doing the CIR test to see if the testosterone in your body is synthetic.
@Dementia.Pugilistica
@Dementia.Pugilistica 7 ай бұрын
so you'd take it with regular testosterone or on it's own? and you'd still pop for high test though if you were taking it at levels above reference range, right?
@kylerBD
@kylerBD 7 ай бұрын
@@Dementia.Pugilistica People dont pop for high test unless its absolute insane levels, jon jones had female levels of testosterone in his fight with DC.
@matta1966
@matta1966 7 ай бұрын
This test has no value since the end of 80's. It's just very smal addon. Even in the NRD they knew how to bypass this test.
@jonosterman2878
@jonosterman2878 6 ай бұрын
they prob also used it to provide a test base, like most gear users do.
@JakeSemeniuk
@JakeSemeniuk 7 ай бұрын
Patiently waiting for the full podcast
@ryantrotter9561
@ryantrotter9561 7 ай бұрын
great work
@lukehatcher98
@lukehatcher98 7 ай бұрын
Telly and MPMD collabs are my favorite
@damionjackson1743
@damionjackson1743 7 ай бұрын
As much as I would love to live in a sports world where everyone is competing only off their god given potential. With modern medicine we well never have a truly leveled playing field which makes the argument all sports should just be untested credible.
@DCJayhawk57
@DCJayhawk57 7 ай бұрын
Except that a lot of pro athletes are natural, they're just gifted genetically. Derek doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. He's a gear head with average genetics who never put in the work as a natural before hopping on, and so he is somehow an authority on high-level athletes? Please. He's made his career making up fictional cycles for people based on what they look like. Just because some take PEDs doesn't mean that all pro athletes are on them, but that's a common sentiment I see from the gymcel crowd.
@jjboy157
@jjboy157 7 ай бұрын
@@DCJayhawk57and your idea of what “gifted” genetics are from an athletic standpoint are likely sourced from an ephemeral fairytale athlete that doesn’t actually exist. Steroid level results come from steroids, point blank, and “good” genes from a survivability standpoint won’t make you look or perform at the competitive level wherein everyone else is also taking steroids. He actually has scientific data backing what he says, and everything he says has credence in regards to these testing policies. You have an inability to accept that your favourite athlete you’re almost certainly feeling personally attacked on behalf of might not tell the truth sometimes and nothing else. What seems more likely here, athletes believing in themselves hard enough their bodies start naturally producing trenbolone or that people in sports largely associated with grandiose egos might *gasp* lie. Take your time
@JHMninja89
@JHMninja89 7 ай бұрын
​@@DCJayhawk57If you dig deeper, you'll find that Derek is hired by certain athletes to pass drug tests. Who's to say that many other people don't hire drug coaches.
@greuju
@greuju 7 ай бұрын
@@DCJayhawk57 The thing is there are a lot of natural athletes that don't use much. And there's even more natural athletes, that only use when injured. This means that essentially most successful athletes have used PEDs. Generally most people watch team sports, and all team sports are roided up.
@shaqitup
@shaqitup 7 ай бұрын
@@DCJayhawk57 some are, but then they see other gifted athletes or get injured, or surpass their abilities due to substances they take.
@BluegillGreg
@BluegillGreg 7 ай бұрын
I learned something new: H2O and NaCl are used by the body only once they're "methylated." Of course.
@PressureEd
@PressureEd 7 ай бұрын
Man what camera do you use this video quality is amazing
@kane6529
@kane6529 7 ай бұрын
Iphone 12 Brugh
@PressureEd
@PressureEd 7 ай бұрын
@@kane6529 damn, impressive.
@davidcoleman730
@davidcoleman730 7 ай бұрын
Is there a video of the whole podcast?
@isaacm6560
@isaacm6560 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm tired of watching short clips
@barrick4807
@barrick4807 7 ай бұрын
So correct me if I’m wrong but from what I’ve read majority of T4 to T3 is in the liver. But up to 20% can be converted in the intestine?
@TheSurgeonsRoadie
@TheSurgeonsRoadie 7 ай бұрын
Victor Conte is very similar to Gary. They did a great job portraying him in Untold. Patrick Arnold wasn’t able to be interviewed for the doc, unfortunately. I’ve known Patrick for 15 years. He’s a dear friend of mine.
@morganthem
@morganthem 5 ай бұрын
Healthy conversation
@fruchtlack
@fruchtlack 7 ай бұрын
Is the full podcast released yet??
@RoidfreeSenior
@RoidfreeSenior 7 ай бұрын
When I used test years ago, we assumed we would "peak" strength wise 2-3 weeks after getting off
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 7 ай бұрын
Derek is more educated and knowledgeable than some endocrinologists I've had specialist appointments with. This dude deserves a Doctorates degree
@apollow_g1025
@apollow_g1025 7 ай бұрын
that's not even a compliment by endocrinologists own standards. they really know very little as far as healthy people at all. the majority only deal with obese and overweight patients almost exclusively. if you're an athlete, good luck finding and endo that has treated athletes. they don't exist. they all pretty much deal with pcos from bitches being obese and trt for me from men being obese.
@robertworton2394
@robertworton2394 7 ай бұрын
My endocrinologist is a 50 year old lady that doesn’t know half of what Derek does
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 7 ай бұрын
@@robertworton2394 i totally understand. My endocrinologist is a younger dude and not to dog on these specialist doctors.. but Derek deserves to get a chance of proving he is capable of doing their job. At least at the diagnostics, pharmacology & lab testing level.
@user-wb7nv9ht1g
@user-wb7nv9ht1g 6 ай бұрын
We don't actually know that, its an assumption. That product he was pushing was a scam and I'd trust an endocrinologist over him
@josue24
@josue24 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. Fuq the person actually educated in the field. Listen to the drug pedaler. 😂🤦🏻‍♂️
@isaacm6560
@isaacm6560 7 ай бұрын
Where's the full podcast?
@statictech7
@statictech7 7 ай бұрын
You can interview the guy who created THG. His name is Patrick Arnold. I think he lives in Texas.
@ebinn6381
@ebinn6381 7 ай бұрын
Girl i know started using the pill at 14 and it affected her body and mental health so much without her even knowing until I pointed it out.
@SnifferSock
@SnifferSock 7 ай бұрын
Probably be another 10-15 before people will actually admit birth control is fvcked up. Being on it at 14 is wild. I know some take it for cramps and acne? I think, but her parents are negligent at best.
@Radiation580
@Radiation580 6 ай бұрын
Lol
@Radiation580
@Radiation580 6 ай бұрын
Steroids cause more harmful to women than men
@Bawks_FEET
@Bawks_FEET 6 ай бұрын
Fucks up mate selection
@jasegbaby7332
@jasegbaby7332 6 ай бұрын
Love Dereks new lipstick.
@shaqitup
@shaqitup 7 ай бұрын
Just came to comment on how fly Derek’s jacket is.
@BluegillGreg
@BluegillGreg 7 ай бұрын
A good thing to do with raw milk is to pasteurize it at home. It takes about 25 minutes at 180 degrees F. It tastes better than over-heated homogenized milk, and is safer than unpasteurized milk.
@travispagent937
@travispagent937 7 ай бұрын
Pasteurisation would take about 7 seconds @ 180f
@Ghoster311
@Ghoster311 6 ай бұрын
How long would an athlete need to be off of steroids for them to be assured of not popping on a test?
@stneloxa1575
@stneloxa1575 7 ай бұрын
MPMD 3hr video on gary brecka finna be crazy
@frankb5728
@frankb5728 7 ай бұрын
I thought what Gary was saying was sort of interesting but didn't watch too much of it. Then I caught a clip of him talking about kids and the typical american diet and how they should try to get off of it. He gave the example of kids eating pop tarts for breakfast, which nobody would agree is healthy. The issue is that he claimed it was the fortified grains in the pop tarts that were the cause. It's easy to dismiss the guy when you start digging a little deeper into his associations as well.
@NicholasRachuna
@NicholasRachuna 6 ай бұрын
Patrick Arnold a.k.a "the clear chemist" is the guy who made "The Clear" he used to write a column in Muscular Development
@BluegillGreg
@BluegillGreg 7 ай бұрын
My whey protein has 2 ingredients: whey protein isolate and lecithin. It comes in a 10 pound bag and is very low cost because the price doesn't have to cover unneeded ingredients, unneeded packaging, and unneeded advertising.
@CocorumbaWins
@CocorumbaWins 7 ай бұрын
Where is that from? If you don’t mind me asking
@Bawks_FEET
@Bawks_FEET 6 ай бұрын
Where do I buy it?
@realalbertan
@realalbertan 7 ай бұрын
One of the cornerstones of designer steroids has to be a designer epitestosterone to bring the T:E ratio under 4:1
@drip369
@drip369 7 ай бұрын
Are you going to be bringing back the podcast
@zacktelander
@zacktelander 7 ай бұрын
No I’m just bringing back the format for when I can get guests. All “podcast” format videos will go on this channel.
@drip369
@drip369 7 ай бұрын
​@@zacktelanderoh ok. Of course I enjoy the music the lifting and the commentary, but I also enjoyed the longer form content
@zacktelander
@zacktelander 7 ай бұрын
I think LC lately has taken place of the podcast.
@josephbloxham3992
@josephbloxham3992 7 ай бұрын
Question for Derek - don't WADA testing protocols have to be peer reviewed? If so, anybody with an HPLC-MS can do the tests on their own.
@greuju
@greuju 7 ай бұрын
Unless you're a genius that can make them, the machines are hyper specific and extremely expensive. And no that's really just one part of it. You also need to understand the entire science, and how all the drugs and your hormones etc work with each other.
@ciarantaylor-kitching3142
@ciarantaylor-kitching3142 7 ай бұрын
I mean not everybody has a HPLC lying around 😂also you’d have to have a fragment library for every single PED you’d test for to have any kind of conclusive data
@josephbloxham3992
@josephbloxham3992 7 ай бұрын
@@ciarantaylor-kitching3142 sure, but a state sponsored athlete certainly will. And since I think wada must use published methods, you just do all the tests and see if you pass.
@greuju
@greuju 7 ай бұрын
@@ciarantaylor-kitching3142 yeah good point. All you need is the precise equipment, and the exact understanding for each molecule you're looking for. 🤣 Yeah sounds pretty easy to me.
@ptccombatfitness6726
@ptccombatfitness6726 7 ай бұрын
Peer reviewed is the biggest BS ever. Many many many peer reviewed studies have been shown to be 100% wrong
@MrCole0309
@MrCole0309 7 ай бұрын
does anyone know where Derek got that flannel jacket? I want one.
@juanesteban8938
@juanesteban8938 7 ай бұрын
I gave my best effort to find it, and I'm usually good at finding stuff. Curious to see if someone can answer this.
@DannyHamar
@DannyHamar 6 ай бұрын
He sells every clothing he wears to shows at his ebay, that way you can copy his whole look. Im not sure about socks and lingerie tho, but the flannel you will find under "Shirts, non-formal"
@jorob813
@jorob813 7 ай бұрын
The dude who sells a hydration wand is a great source of information. Dufuq?!
@paulodanteneto1645
@paulodanteneto1645 7 ай бұрын
06:25 I think that the abuse - even with a soft Voice and tone - of absolutes can be a sign of lack of knowledge, at least lack of a general, complex knowledge. having doubts can be a sign that you understand the complexity of Matters.
@realestatejunkie0414
@realestatejunkie0414 7 ай бұрын
This methylation thing doesn’t make sense to me. I have a degree in biochemistry and the all the new peptide therapies make sense to me. But the methylation stuff and alkaline beds/mats don’t make any sense to me.
@clayc5929
@clayc5929 6 ай бұрын
What should I put into pubmed to learn about these new peptide therapies
@2e826
@2e826 7 ай бұрын
Yeah this was a cool video and all but what brand of jacket is derek wearing lmao?
@blakehoule6698
@blakehoule6698 6 ай бұрын
YOUNGLA
@2e826
@2e826 6 ай бұрын
@@blakehoule6698 519 woven flannel jacket in off-white/blue you smart as hell homie
@Boscoe264
@Boscoe264 7 ай бұрын
Can you buy raw milk from HEB
@drip369
@drip369 7 ай бұрын
I just noticed the ZT shirt design is back below the video. Just ordered one 🎉🎉
@chrismurray5343
@chrismurray5343 7 ай бұрын
Did someone say raw milk 🥛 😂
@iDanDelf
@iDanDelf 7 ай бұрын
IMO he's the "liver king" of longevity! Fake A F ... (Gary)
@MegaLegz
@MegaLegz 7 ай бұрын
If you came for the title see the last 2 minutes.
@jukasipo
@jukasipo 6 ай бұрын
Clickbait title, last time I fall for it.
@acatnamedscamper3307
@acatnamedscamper3307 7 ай бұрын
Ok so, what about insulin on a powerlifting meet and being able to get away with it because of “diabetes” ?
@clayc5929
@clayc5929 6 ай бұрын
I mean I don’t think it’s _that_ easy to fake diabetes. It’s not like, say, anxiety or often even ADHD where you can just say the right things. There are specific diagnostic protocols that involve lab tests.
@acatnamedscamper3307
@acatnamedscamper3307 6 ай бұрын
@@clayc5929 🤔
@mwangikimani3970
@mwangikimani3970 6 ай бұрын
Dunning Kruger effect, people with little to moderate knowledge on a subject are most dangerously self assured.
@justinjones5281
@justinjones5281 6 ай бұрын
0:24 get the stevia out of it. Fuck taste give me the protein lol. Much love.
@michaelgammage4524
@michaelgammage4524 7 ай бұрын
Couldn't one just synthesize Test from an animal cholesterol and epiTest as well then figure out the proper ratio? Figure that this would be the easiest way for any state sponsored doping program.
@greuju
@greuju 7 ай бұрын
Yes all you have to do is synthesize testosterone from any form of cholesterol. So just go and do it and get back to me I could use some. Get me some GatoROIDS.
@r1a1p1AllenPogue
@r1a1p1AllenPogue 6 ай бұрын
Haha as soon as I heard that statement from Gary I started laughing! It's funny but of course it's also harmful.
@wolfy9005
@wolfy9005 6 ай бұрын
No catheter up the willy to replace urine with clean urine mentioned? disappoint
@mikethenike9340
@mikethenike9340 6 ай бұрын
Watching this for study purposes, definitely not the reason why he’s making it👍
@andreasgiulio4922
@andreasgiulio4922 6 ай бұрын
*passed
@donaldnewell4868
@donaldnewell4868 6 ай бұрын
Raw milk is a terrible idea for a person interested in health.
@mykelengieza7057
@mykelengieza7057 7 ай бұрын
ALGORITHM
@seanthegod4585
@seanthegod4585 7 ай бұрын
Stop being so afraid, and call out the people who are just, wrong. 🙄
@michaelholt8590
@michaelholt8590 7 ай бұрын
Some of these peptides they are using are no joke either. They can do multiple things from fat losez muscle building, and healing.
@cyumadbrosummit3534
@cyumadbrosummit3534 6 ай бұрын
Yo Balco happened in the 90's bro you are 3 decades behind on doping. "yo did you here about Sergio's cycle 68 years ago?"
@samalexander5236
@samalexander5236 7 ай бұрын
“Natural Flavours” - five simple ingredients. Doesn’t jive.
@stephend50
@stephend50 7 ай бұрын
4.5x half life for all of a drug to be out of the body
@Lightitupp1
@Lightitupp1 7 ай бұрын
No, different drugs (esters) have different half lives.
@kane6529
@kane6529 7 ай бұрын
@@Lightitupp1obviously they have different half lifes hes saying 4.5 of the specific half life until its out if your system completely.
@Lightitupp1
@Lightitupp1 7 ай бұрын
@@kane6529 He didn't mention any compound.
@leonardotheuseless4188
@leonardotheuseless4188 7 ай бұрын
@@Lightitupp1 you must be restarted
@Lightitupp1
@Lightitupp1 7 ай бұрын
@@leonardotheuseless4188 Yes very restarted
@scottessery100
@scottessery100 7 ай бұрын
The Chinese weightlifting 🏋️‍♀️ team must have 3 rd or 4 th gen designer gear now
@RustyShackleford9000
@RustyShackleford9000 7 ай бұрын
6:41 he just explained the origin or organized religion as well without even trying 😂
@orion9k
@orion9k 7 ай бұрын
"only 5 ingredients in this whey protein, I never seen this few ingredients before" The whey I buy only has 1 ingredient and thats pure whey protein powder, no additives at all, and they are easy and cheap to produce 🎉
@juanesteban8938
@juanesteban8938 7 ай бұрын
Which one you buy?
@orion9k
@orion9k 7 ай бұрын
@@juanesteban8938 usually Whey Isolate natural taste from Bulk but their prices sometimes way overpriced, then I buy a random regular whey protein natural but if you buy anything not being Isolate or Hydrolized Whey, the quality starts to drop a lot e.g. only 23 grams proteins per 30 grams.
@valeriybaibossynov2690
@valeriybaibossynov2690 7 ай бұрын
Nandrolone is not used in birth control pills or any form of hormonal contraception intended for preventing pregnancy. Nandrolone is classified as an anabolic steroid and is primarily used for medical purposes such as treating anemia and certain muscle wasting conditions.
@XizzorPvP
@XizzorPvP 7 ай бұрын
Norgestrel is a common ingredient in many birthcontrols anything with a nor in front of it is a 19-nor derived steroid aka a nandrolone derivative smartypants
@josephdanner773
@josephdanner773 6 ай бұрын
He said derived from, it is one of the parent compounds. Doesn't say that it has all the same effects - it actually is performance decreasing drug most of the time-or pharmacology, rather that it means you are NOT natural if you are on BC and that it has a slew of negative health effects and externalties that are often over looked. [Progestins. Nandrolone, together with ethisterone (17α-ethynyltestosterone), is also the parent compound of a large group of progestins, the norethisterone (17α-ethynyl-19-nortestosterone) derivatives.] "A wide variety of oral, parenteral, intrauterine systems, and implantable progestins have been used for this purpose.221 A number of mechanisms have been proposed for the beneficial effects of progestins. The most likely mechanism is variable suppression of ovulatory menses. Norethindrone Acetate Norethindrone acetate is a 19-nortestosterone"
@ChunkyLover69420
@ChunkyLover69420 7 ай бұрын
Why risk raw milk? really doesnt seem worth it
@drip369
@drip369 7 ай бұрын
Maybe nowadays since people don't have a tolerance for it but for thousands of years and never hurt anybody because it actually helped the immune system while providing fat carbohydrates and protein in one food source. Raw milk is really good for you yet people would have to build up a tolerance if they've had watered down homogenized milk.
@Eustres
@Eustres 7 ай бұрын
I usually think it is for a psychological thing. we know from literature it has no more benefits than pasteurized milk and it increases risks. But, if the individual enjoys it more this way and maybe grew in a location where culturally/socially this was accepted or looked in a positive light it will reinforce those feelings.
@zacktelander
@zacktelander 7 ай бұрын
The Texas Department of State Health Services requires licensed Raw for Retail dairies to have their milk sampled on a quarterly basis for pathogenic bacteria and for the presence of antibiotics in the milk.  If either of these are found present in milk intended for sale as Grade "A" Retail Raw, the dairyman's product will be immediately detained and not available for public sale. I’ve done extensive research on this subject in the state of Texas and I researched my provider as well. There is minimal risk if any at all.
@winstonpeart3826
@winstonpeart3826 7 ай бұрын
It's delicious
@samwelltayrlor
@samwelltayrlor 7 ай бұрын
Raw milk tastes like ice cream for me it’s that good. There’s people out there in heavy training that would say milk is better than water. Obviously that’s probably if your going through a hell week. I drink it when I feel a seasonal cold coming on and I feel better.
@maanhasan1537
@maanhasan1537 6 ай бұрын
This is why the tested world record in powerlifting (open class with sleeves) is higher than the untested, what a joke.
@Boscoe264
@Boscoe264 7 ай бұрын
Best part about Raw milk is that it doesn't spoil
@danielnetz5173
@danielnetz5173 7 ай бұрын
Turns to kefir.
@scottessery100
@scottessery100 7 ай бұрын
@@danielnetz5173all those good bacteria
@noone3992
@noone3992 7 ай бұрын
​@@danielnetz5173 For milk to turn into kefir you need to add kefir yeast.
@TheYyam85ahaz
@TheYyam85ahaz 7 ай бұрын
For you guys asking about raw milk and bashing him for it why not do your own research? If it’s not worth it to you then don’t drink it?
@brolaf3792
@brolaf3792 6 ай бұрын
didn't derek literally sell Turkesterone lol
@yeye-ph2qv
@yeye-ph2qv 7 ай бұрын
Ahhh yes more steroid talk…… exactly what we need to hear
@andrewkielbasowycz1915
@andrewkielbasowycz1915 7 ай бұрын
Derek wearing lipstick?
@TheDavveponken
@TheDavveponken 6 ай бұрын
on charlatans, same goes for doctors...
@varunaggarwal102
@varunaggarwal102 7 ай бұрын
Indian audiences should see it and get educated from these soo called powerlifters who claim they are natural
@Achilles
@Achilles 7 ай бұрын
This dude made such an example out of Derek for talking about Gary Brecka. If I was Derek I wouldn't come back, why talk to someone who always tries to sit on a higher pedestal. Doing it (not making absolute statements) is perfectly fine, but then wasting his time separating yourself by explaining why you do it is absurd and a waste of time.
@bsrkoacar8414
@bsrkoacar8414 7 ай бұрын
Why does the government care if you buy and sell raw milk? That's ridiculous
@greuju
@greuju 7 ай бұрын
Although I say properly sourced raw milk is completely healthy, the flip side of that I would never drink raw milk I didn't know where it came from. The statistics show you're about 20 times more likely to get sick from raw milk.
@bsrkoacar8414
@bsrkoacar8414 7 ай бұрын
@@greuju yeah but if you know a trusted farmer and want to buy it, you should be able to buy it at your own risk. Most People aren't as stupid as the government thinks... And if some idiot gets sick, he probably won't do that again lol.
@paulm1978
@paulm1978 7 ай бұрын
You know when someone gets ill or dies from (presumably) drinking raw milk, the dairy it comes from will be litigated out of existence. I'd consider an "informed consent" waiver if I was a dairy.
@Dr.l1v3e5sy
@Dr.l1v3e5sy 7 ай бұрын
derek,I am a medical student, i strongly suggest you to open up a pharmacology lecture, i believe that you can do really good job!
@bhuuthesecond
@bhuuthesecond 6 ай бұрын
In your opinion does Derek’s knowledge compare with that of a medical doctor?
@Tomthetrainspotter
@Tomthetrainspotter 7 ай бұрын
All athletes are on roids there are sacrificial lambs in every sport
@Ghostintheshell3551
@Ghostintheshell3551 Ай бұрын
Every one is cheating and juicing period . in every professional sport.
@shackelfrdace69
@shackelfrdace69 7 ай бұрын
I’m on zach’s side w staying natty and everything but dude is max coping w these charlatan segments and when he trashes other ppl in general
@zacktelander
@zacktelander 7 ай бұрын
The proper term is copemaxxing and tbh I’m gonna talk about charlatans for the rest of my channels existence 🤷🏻
@jerodpeters6167
@jerodpeters6167 7 ай бұрын
Do not drink raw milk
@SnifferSock
@SnifferSock 7 ай бұрын
You sound like someone who thinks flu shots make you healthier.
@jimmylight4866
@jimmylight4866 7 ай бұрын
@@SnifferSock😂😂
@envesful
@envesful Ай бұрын
Dude is quite possible the biggest hater on KZfaq 😂
@bipolarmomandnowwhat
@bipolarmomandnowwhat 6 ай бұрын
Yes there exists a blood, brain barrier and half lives in drugs 😂
@matz4k
@matz4k 7 ай бұрын
let's be honest, Gary Brecka is mostly bs and sells overpriced magic to millionaires.
@JustinReal
@JustinReal 7 ай бұрын
Please for the love of god stop putting this guy on platforms to act like he’s an authority on peds or anything for that matter. He literally became known by saying “well, I think this guy is on this, but I don’t know”. Then got a massive investment to help start a hormone replacement company. He’s not educated enough to be giving advice . You people are taking advice from a guy who is KZfaq famous. It’s embarrassing that our resumes now are “I have 1 million followers on KZfaq or Instagram “. Holy crap that’s embarrassing. That’s our new measuring stick . People are sheep for the most part so because sheep are following this guy, you will too?
@Lexsoufz
@Lexsoufz 6 ай бұрын
@justinreal your comment needs to be pinned up top. Well said bro
@janjezz
@janjezz 7 ай бұрын
Derek telling a human biologist that he's wrong about biochemistry is just asinine..
@98danielray
@98danielray 7 ай бұрын
even if he was wrong? tf is your problem. the T4 conversion is not in the gut.
@jimmylight4866
@jimmylight4866 7 ай бұрын
Derek knows more easily.
@clayc5929
@clayc5929 6 ай бұрын
I mean he gave a specific reason why he disagreed. Personally I dont know if he’s right but it’s okay disagree with a supposed expert if you can articulate why the person is wrong in a potentially verifiable way
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