How BAD were Beautifly & Dustox ACTUALLY? - History of Beautifly & Dustox in Competitive Pokemon
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Күн бұрынBeautifly & Dustox are today’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Beautifly & Dustox in competitive Pokemon!
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0:00 - Intro
0:39 - ADV/Gen 3
1:50 - DPP/Gen 4
2:44 - BW/Gen 5
3:33 - XY/Gen 6
5:57 - SM/Gen 7
6:33 - Outro
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Directed by Kellen
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Edited By
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VFX Intro By
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Sound Designed by
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Game Capture Artist:
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DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent. I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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@julianchrobak-prince1915 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Kellen is just knocking out all the bad Hoenn mons all at once, let’s just get them over with already
@roninwarriorsfan 2 жыл бұрын
I hate it because he's not letting us vote on mons we want to see >:[
@snarls3760 2 жыл бұрын
@@roninwarriorsfan he lets us do it once a month in the patreon amd he sometimes lets us decide in the polls on the community post.
@RyanYeehaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@snarls3760 it’s been 7 months since the last community poll tho lol
@oscarzxn4067 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of those left though, like 10
@Zeronigel332 2 жыл бұрын
I have bad news most gen 3 Pokémon are bad
@birdman97 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Dustox was actually a viable, if not the best, check to banded Machoke in Gen 6 PU. It was immune to DynamicPunch’s confusion thanks to Shield Dust, quad resisted its Stab, and forced Machoke to run a Rock coverage move. However, Machoke was eventually banned, and Dustox because useless again. At least it still has a cool design :/
@grammaticalrouge29 2 жыл бұрын
_"However, Machoke was eventually banned and Dustox _*_became_*_ useless again."_ Please. _Pleeeeease..._ Correct your grammar _theeeeere..._ And it will be... the perfect _coooohment..._
@birdman97 2 жыл бұрын
you’d think the grammatical ROGUE would also correct the fact that a comma needs to come before that conjunction in order to separate the two independent clauses. smh faltering at your job as usual you fool, you absolute clown
@Lawrence2525 2 жыл бұрын
@@grammaticalrouge29 that’s not a grammatical error but a lexical one, very much caused - given the different words and their syntactic functions - by autocorrection. Don’t make such a fuss for nothing.
@grammaticalrouge29 2 жыл бұрын
@@birdman97 If life was a play, you would be playing the fool instead, sire... However, reconstructing the paragraphe under your parameters would leave it as _"However, Dustox was once more useless for the reason being the eventual banning of Machoke."_ and yourself ashamed; Also, you get what you paid for... "boss."
@grammaticalrouge29 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lawrence2525 You're right. That's more of a Lexical Driud's thing than mine. Thanks!
@TGB_Brian 2 жыл бұрын
At this point, if we’re doing less “viable” Hoenn duos like Plusle/Minun and Dustox/Beautifly, Illumise/Volbeat HAS to be next.
@shawnli4746 2 жыл бұрын
Please Please Please will Kellen joke about how it and Altaria dominated OU... of Scandinavian death metal
@Labyrinth6000 2 жыл бұрын
Tailglow is a top tier Uber move with baton pass
@sosams 2 жыл бұрын
Volbeat is interesting, it has a good support movepool along with Prankster. Not the same can be said about Illumise.
@moonjelly5 2 жыл бұрын
I would also add in Solrock/Lunatone
@tonberry2670 2 жыл бұрын
Volbeat actually HAS some competitive value though
@Igorcastrochucre 2 жыл бұрын
Game Freak: We're giving Beautify a 10 BST boost. Dustox: You're giving me one too, right? GF: ... Dustox: Right?
@ActualTrash8 2 жыл бұрын
Gamefreak: I think I forgot something Beautifully: if you forgot it doesn’t matter Gamefreak: Yeah Dustoxes 10 base stat boost:
@rhydonphilip 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't at all suprise me if they just forgot Ledian and Dustox existed when buffing Ariados and Beautifly.
@theboi5584 2 жыл бұрын
And Dustox is STILL better
@EmeralBookwise 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhydonphilip: Forgetting Ledian could be forgiven, but Dustox is literally part of the exact same evolutionary line. Being Beautifly's counter part is it's entire gimmick
@XZA.B 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhydonphilip I think your forgetting how literally goated Ledian is
@sayvionwashington1939 2 жыл бұрын
I love how we're just having a: "Let's vote in the dogshit mons" arc.
@thecat4823 2 жыл бұрын
no u
@lmao8789 2 жыл бұрын
No u
@pergrineheel3018 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose the competitively bad mons had to be covered eventually. But 6 bad gen 3 mons in a row?
@kefkapalazzo1 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@emma11122 2 жыл бұрын
Those are the funnier / more intresting ones imo. Who wants to hear how amazing some UBER mon was gen after gen after gen.
@dtexdarkus 2 жыл бұрын
When you have two separate Pokémon put together in one video and it doesn’t even get to ten minutes, you know the situation is desperate.
@4zumarill 2 жыл бұрын
@Fax Shut up, bot.
@victorleesey1157 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing lol. Even Butterfree and Beedrill got more time lol.
@marcthedashergd6321 2 жыл бұрын
Butterfree did have a niche in gen 5 RU and gen 6 PU I think and also some placements in gen 7 and early gen 8 VGC. Beedrill has a mega which is actually a beast in UU. Beautifly and dustox are just.... There.
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they were on Elite Four Aaron's D/P team still blows my mind.
@butteredsalmonella 2 жыл бұрын
@Fax mashallah deez nuts
@gutenberg577 2 жыл бұрын
"Shocking as it may seem, Beatufly did NOT completly dominate it's generation's OU" *punches hole in the wall* GOD DAMMIT
@thecriticalghost4626 2 жыл бұрын
what
@Materialist39 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@aname5630 2 жыл бұрын
this is the best comment I've ever seen
@RemoradiMare 2 жыл бұрын
My sides lmao
@Aex89 2 жыл бұрын
What nooo that can't be!!!!
@DrKnockOut1115 2 жыл бұрын
Aaron of the Sinnoh E4 actually had these until Platinum’s expanded Regional Dex allowed him some higher quality bugs.
@Dragonoid269 2 жыл бұрын
At the point where you have to use beautifly and dustox you might as well go back to the good old gen 1 tactic of "Put 3 pokemon of the same evolution line in the same team" and call it a day.
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dragonoid269 Champion Aaron: *6 SCIZORS*
@dootsouls 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dragonoid269 let's give him a male combee
@rike971 2 жыл бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765 Your Infernape/Houndoom : That's free real estate !
@rike971 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dragonoid269 *Imagine DP Flint with 2 Rapidash and 3 Infernape.*
@mr.krustykrust 2 жыл бұрын
I see he’s still recovering from charizard
@SonBlackHeart22 2 жыл бұрын
Must be effects of using Blast Burn.
@Elitus 2 жыл бұрын
Or preparing for another big
@VVheeli 2 жыл бұрын
Or bracing for Ferro/Lando.
@IlDogeIslamico 2 жыл бұрын
Or they just enjoy their well deserved vacations
@lyncario5515 2 жыл бұрын
@@VVheeli Or Ttar.
@Eltipoquevisteayer 2 жыл бұрын
I know it was going to be short, but never thought it was going to be that bad. Can't imagine how Mothin and Wormadam would fare
@bafbaas1210 2 жыл бұрын
Well mothim has slightly better better stats, a better ability and the same moveset. So probly a tiny bit better. Wormadam trash has better defensive typing and stats then dustox and also better offensive ones and stealth rocks. Only thing dustox has over it is better speed and recovery
@demonicgamerazazel9866 2 жыл бұрын
Wormadam? I don't give a damn!
@mipho5899 2 жыл бұрын
defintely better than these two but still bad.
@agentblackbird9435 2 жыл бұрын
I might be misremembering but I think in some of the videos Wormadam Trash is seen setting up Stealth Rocks in Gen 6 PU
@sonofhades57 2 жыл бұрын
I once beat a Rayquaza with Trash Cloak Wormadam, but only because the other guy forgot a fire move.
@fragilecastle416 2 жыл бұрын
The alliteration in today’s episode is astounding
@Kisarez 2 жыл бұрын
@Fax astounding alliterations are always appeallng
@Wildcatt1999 2 жыл бұрын
It's OU Tier
@user-me1rb8wb1l 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Rusty's bloodborne videos. The alliteration is just *chef's kiss*
@ActualTrash8 2 жыл бұрын
wow they really nailed it with that amazing, astonishingly awesome, astounding and appealing alliteration.
@diegoxavier9107 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kisarez When it's a vowel, it's called assonance
@trat2053 2 жыл бұрын
2:05 That's actually an interesting idea. A reverse entry hazard, where instead of setting up something to hurt your opponent when they switch in, you heal yourself when you switch in. Or maybe heal yourself when the opponent switches mons? It would discourage you trying to defog or rapid spin because it's a "hazard" on your side. I suppose the question would be how much it heals, and by proxy if it would be linked to typing like stealth rock, or type-neutral like spikes.
@SpectroliteDS2400 2 жыл бұрын
Who knows? maybe it could be a trap you set on the opposing side that drains health from any Pokémon who switch in, healing your own Pokémon by that amount. It could also be able to be stacked to increase the effect (kinda like spikes and toxic spikes), such as one layer draining 1/16th of their health, two layers draining 1/8th, and possibly three layers draining 1/4th (which i'd say is fair since it's a one-time drain that only triggers upon switching in). You could also have something set on your own side of the field that gives you a stat buff such as +1 to speed or attack, boosts the power of your first attack after switching in, or even removes status conditions, the possibilities are endless, and it's frankly amazing that Pokémon hasn't done this yet.
@qwasddk936 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt that be too similar to leech seed
@r0w5tortion84 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe an ability that heals upon entry hazards? It would probably be given to dogshit mons anyway, but it's a nice thought
@qwasddk936 2 жыл бұрын
@@r0w5tortion84 honestly if its given to dogshit mons people would probably meme to the point they disregard the ability with heavy duty boots
@Dracon350 2 жыл бұрын
the problem with that thought though is that you can't make the healing too good, but it has to be worth enough to bother setting the move up in the first place. otherwise you'd just be better of spinning or defogging the hazards away anyways rather than relying on a 'healing hazard' to negate them for you.
@Raffytaffy101 2 жыл бұрын
Gen 6 PU Set: 1.) Flash 2.) Morning Sun 3.) Defog 4.) N/A lol 😂😂
@adityabanerjee6949 2 жыл бұрын
Conclusion- Never ask for a charizard remake
@SonBlackHeart22 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if Blastoise or Venasaur will get the remake treatment too.
@adityabanerjee6949 2 жыл бұрын
I wish blastoise gets a remake, it's really an underrated starter
@mandalorianhunter1 2 жыл бұрын
@@SonBlackHeart22 they probably will at the end of this year or next year.
@SonBlackHeart22 2 жыл бұрын
@@mandalorianhunter1 True
@Oliver-uz1fs 2 жыл бұрын
@@SonBlackHeart22 blastoise will be 40 minutes at best, lmao, venasaur have a chance to be as long as zard
@Enterprisingengine93 2 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna use beautifly in brilliant diamond to up the difficulty a lil bit
@donkkut5003 2 жыл бұрын
watch bdsp turn into the hardest official pokemon games
@themojolemon3701 2 жыл бұрын
@@donkkut5003 I feel like bdsp may rival or surpass hgss
@jennifermalabosa5976 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, Dustox is good for nuzlocke. It has early psybeam and it has things like moonlight. It well fell off when you're in like 3rd/4th gym but it's good for early game
@leonardoalvim6753 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to use dustox in platinum, and it was not worth it
@Yhormungandr 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardoalvim6753 definitely, use all the Burmy line and Kricketune for ultimate nuzlocke success.
@gnammyhamster9554 2 жыл бұрын
"Checks and Counters Everything: Once it gets past Beautifly's blinding gaze and face, an opposing Pokemon can wear it down with either status or attacking moves."
@kurtislachance9958 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifly and Dustox may have been Untiered, but Kellen's alliterations are easily OU
@vdd1001 2 жыл бұрын
I think BKC writes those, so credits to him because they're hilarious
@shinymetagross1666 2 жыл бұрын
@Deucalion Martin It's probably a bot. Just ignore it or report for spam
@iluvchess14736 2 жыл бұрын
Ou means overused, which the allieration is not
@PKSparkxxDH 2 жыл бұрын
The alliteration is TOO GOOD. Give this writer a pat on the back.
@Demian_Garcia 2 жыл бұрын
It's honestly poetic
@thecriticalghost4626 2 жыл бұрын
no
@jacksonsmith2955 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to give him a pat on the back, you should subscribe to his channel! He makes longer videos on old gen stuff. kzfaq.info/love/uFJa-IMBq4wOVeZFQHvTmQ
@ActualTrash8 2 жыл бұрын
They really nailed it with the amazing, astonishingly awesome and appealing alliteration.
@cathallynch8269 Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the Friends episode where Joey uses a thesaurus.
@alexdehatter2151 2 жыл бұрын
FSG: (breathes) Beautifly and Dustox: "Stop! Stop, we're already dead!"
@rithikr6380 2 жыл бұрын
The alliteration with 'b' for beautifly and 'd' for dustox was honestly incredible
@erydaxd5071 2 жыл бұрын
The Charizard movie was so hard that they now do 2 Pokemon in one video and it only last 8 minutes
@Wildcatt1999 2 жыл бұрын
Never ask Kellen to do another remake again.
@krietvohra2058 2 жыл бұрын
"Brutally Bereft of Benefit, Beautifly was of Bottomost viability, Born to Be Brushed aside" Petition to give Mr. Scriptwriter a raise
@MidoriOfTheShuinsen 2 жыл бұрын
Real V for Vendetta vibes.
@idiot9579 2 жыл бұрын
By bollosem
@pride_mitochondria3921 2 жыл бұрын
That Charizard video must have taken TONS of energy. Cuz now we're in the filler Arcs while FS is writing the Manga.
@justinnzamora5366 2 жыл бұрын
At some point, he's going to cover Delcatty if he's still not fully recovered from Charizard's remake by next week.
@Wildcatt1999 2 жыл бұрын
Plusle and Minun were covered together and their video is longer than Beautifly and Dustox. *let that sink in*
@HazeEmry 2 жыл бұрын
What does that sink want this time?
@Wildcatt1999 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazeEmry They're both Pika-clones and have bad main abilities, yet they had better success than Beautifly and Dustox.
@thecriticalghost4626 2 жыл бұрын
And how is that something to "sink in"?
@zumberburg6527 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazeEmry it just needs to borrow some flour
@suchomimustenerensis 2 жыл бұрын
Dustox might be trash in Competitive but it is a damn good mon in Nuzlockes
@enricobreveglieri397 2 жыл бұрын
Really? How come?
@SemiHypercube 2 жыл бұрын
@@enricobreveglieri397 I'm guessing it's because you can catch Wurmple very early on and its stats are more defensive
@Wildcatt1999 2 жыл бұрын
Oh the irony.
@SomeAsian 2 жыл бұрын
@@enricobreveglieri397 You get it early, Bug/Poison is a decent defensive type in the earlygame, and for RSE it has Protect long before getting the TM, making Norman's Slakings WAY more manageable.
@MrLuizilla 2 жыл бұрын
@@SomeAsian But you can but the Protect TM before the 5th gym, can't you?
@paulbutkovich6103 2 жыл бұрын
I used a Beautifly throughout Platinum. I kept it relevant by keeping it overlevelled, but near the end game I had to face the fact that it was easily the weakest member of my team.
@Amelia4111 2 жыл бұрын
OVERLEVELED IS NOT SPELLED WITH 3 L'S!
@HazeEmry 2 жыл бұрын
@@Amelia4111 it is now if you're going to correct someone with that attitude
@agiruda8380 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to revisit these in Gen 28 when they get new OP forms
@MrLuizilla 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, 2 separate mons that have been around 5 whole generations don't even make it to 10 minutes. Yikes.
@skeetermania3202 2 жыл бұрын
@Fax Could you please stop spamming.
@ActualTrash8 2 жыл бұрын
*cries in mightyena and chimeco*
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 2 жыл бұрын
And yet they were both on an Elite Four member's team once. It's a strange world.
@rhydonphilip 2 жыл бұрын
@@skeetermania3202 It's a bot, just report and wait for the comments to automatically be removed. In the last 5 months smaller channels have increased in using bots to the point it isn't just pewdiepie/mr beast videos that have each comment replied to by them.
@SchAlternate 2 жыл бұрын
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 And quickly discarded as soon as Platinum offered Aaron infinitely better options like Scizor and Yanmega
@sebc255 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing Beautifly in the cometitive scene always reminds me of the time I heard about what was written on its XY overview in Smogon. "Once, there was an ugly butterfly. It was so ugly that everyone died. The end."
@jacksonparker6983 Жыл бұрын
This video could be titled “How Important are Base Stats Actually?”, as even a mon like Venomoth who has the same typing, shares an ability, and similar movepool to Dustox gets banned to RUBL simply because it has a better BST.
@RusticTrophies 2 жыл бұрын
I like that we do have some Pokemon that are "bad" in the series, not everything needs to be über. My first playthrough of Ruby, I had a beautifly and did fine, spores and attract was useful and it was good all through E4. Nice memories...
@cheruledge 2 жыл бұрын
How tf are two Pokémon so bad that they are both 8 minutes combined
@tochi3291 2 жыл бұрын
Saw the length and said 'oh no'
@sayvionwashington1939 2 жыл бұрын
Be an early gen mon and a early route bug
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
And what's even worst that it's review is shorter than Mightyena's. Which is an Dark type.
@Wildcatt1999 2 жыл бұрын
What's worse is that both Linoone and Swellow's videos are longer than Beautifly and Dustox's video.
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
Wildcat. Well at least Swellow & the Linoone line were solid.
@Rncko 2 жыл бұрын
5:10 I think this is my 1st time seeing EMPTY move slot. Not even Hidden Power.... (Even Ledian & Dunsparce didn't receive this treatment)
@rhydonphilip 2 жыл бұрын
In gen 6 the lowest tiers were implied to make sets for all mons which in gen 7 got changed to being implied to make sets for all pokemon on the viability ranking of that tier + deemed fit by tier moderators (so all C+ to D rank pokemon in UU don't have to get an analysis). This lead to quite a few joke analysises for exceptionally bad pokemon in gen 6 PU and gen 6 LC(who had to do all lc mons but reverted to the gen 7 system for the gen 6 reviews after the fact right on the discussion point if someone really had to play and analyse pokemon past Focus Sash Counter Cleffa like Caterpie). As such some gems similar to gen 5 LC magikarp / Gen 6 Beautifly were lost.
@OurKindofEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
2 for 1 video on my birthday?! Excellent! Although, looking at the length of the video...it's easy to tell NEITHER bug was all that great...
@rin8310 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday to you dear youtuber (/ °3°)/ ~
@FAlynn92 2 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday. It's also my birthday
@voltron3104 2 жыл бұрын
@Fax just stop spamming you bot
@pergrineheel3018 2 жыл бұрын
At least they're beautiful
@youmadbro3961 2 жыл бұрын
Happy bday
@elYIiLy 2 жыл бұрын
this is the shortest time any mon has ever gotten on fsg, and that should say something, also i like how bad mons often had a lot of alliteration throughout the video
@IDontNeedYourShittyHandle 2 жыл бұрын
Any shorter mon video on FSG is completely unknown!
@elYIiLy 2 жыл бұрын
@@IDontNeedYourShittyHandle oh the joke video on the aura guadian's channel? that's ten minutes long
@TheKeitaNobodyAskedFor 2 жыл бұрын
i'm digging these double reviews, it's cool
@Pixcele 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly charizard affected this channel more then we expected it ever would... Im genuinely afraid of lando t now
@clarkkent1616 2 жыл бұрын
when lando t comes out im disliking that vid out of principle. all my homies hate landorous. all the genies for that matter
@annaangelic2318 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting addition: though Beautifly has never been ranked above B- on any viability ranking, Dustox does have some niches in ADV ZU and ORAS ZU! In both, it's a great bulky pivot with reliable recovery and status spreading, though in ORAS ZU it is notably more diverse in its sets, including Defog and bulky Quiver Dance variants.
@Dracon350 2 жыл бұрын
ADV ZU? that's a thing?
@PKshockwave 2 жыл бұрын
I will forever love her. My beautifly helped me beat sapphire and emerald along with my Minun and swampert. I was hoping that with her boost in SPA, she'd see more usage. She needs better stats and a usable ability. Rivalry is stupid
@chesslo2158 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful how Beautifly had its ORAS set was flash/defog/morning sun… And Dustin could use quiver dance to slowly become a “sweeper”
@HazeEmry 2 жыл бұрын
Good ole Dustin
@mark012498 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, the D alliteration game for Dustox was devastatingly destructive during this digital dissertation.
@bharatgoel8809 9 ай бұрын
Damn right dude
@haloeightYT 2 жыл бұрын
you guys keep encouraging BKC's alliteration and it goes straight to his head lmaoo
@Spex2601 2 жыл бұрын
we need the absolute movies that would be rotom, deoxys, and arceus
@lazydelibird 2 жыл бұрын
Dude he's still recovering from charizard.
@Spex2601 2 жыл бұрын
@@lazydelibird i never said for the next episode lol. just future ideas
@lazydelibird 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spex2601 He will do it eventually but for now he needs to recover as that remake did a number to him.
@Notsophism 2 жыл бұрын
So here, we have two Pokémon so awful that their analyses had to be paired to match the typical runtime of *one* bad ‘Mon’s analysis. Oh boy. Love their designs, but… wow.
@HazeEmry 2 жыл бұрын
They're both my favourite early bugs too which is sad
@alexthestarchild2555 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazeEmry Right? Even of I prefer Dustox over Beautifly, I can't help but feel sorry for the two. Two early game Bug-types that really deserved better.
@danieleg7068 2 жыл бұрын
actually sweeping teams with dustox is one of the most satisfying things in the game lol managed to do it a couple times
@sagacious03 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty fun analysis! Thanks for uploading!
@arrozzblanco 2 жыл бұрын
I love the alliteration in your videos. 🥰 It's such a nice little addition.
@primrosevale1995 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about killing two bugs with one stone. Also reminder that Ash Beautifly exists.
@bladewingmcowl5842 2 жыл бұрын
You mean Butterfree right?
@justinnzamora5366 2 жыл бұрын
May had a Beautifly, not Ash.
@primrosevale1995 2 жыл бұрын
@@bladewingmcowl5842 Pokémon Journeys has a scene where Ash imagines himself as a Beautifly. So a Beautifly with Ash's eyes, 'z' cheek things, and mouth.
@bladewingmcowl5842 2 жыл бұрын
@@primrosevale1995 oh, must've missed it, I still remember Ash's Butterfree and how back then had me in tears 😭
@primrosevale1995 2 жыл бұрын
@@bladewingmcowl5842 Here you go. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/icCDmdN1qqzenZ8.html
@RetroRanger88 2 жыл бұрын
"Hey, FSG, how much alliteration you want in your script?" "Yes."
@ankhuzerouno4361 2 жыл бұрын
Such an interesting breakdown of pokemon in the competitive scene. I was never very competitive but these videos definitely have me in the mood lately.
@hazeldetov 2 жыл бұрын
Somehow I thought I was already subscribed and hit the bell. Either I forgot or KZfaq is somehow to blame. Either way, fucking amazing content all around! Thank you for making these tough times so much more bearable.
@captainsnake8515 2 жыл бұрын
If false swipe’s new love for bad gen 3 Pokémon continues, we can expect “how good was delcatty actually” in the near future.
@dathbaeder 2 жыл бұрын
0:57 - 1:50 the alliteration is so good and needs to be appreciated more
@brendan8883 2 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate the abundant alliteration in these vids.
@Rafael_Oiticica 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifly Buffs Base Stat Total: HP: 75 Def: 70 Sp. Atk: 110 Sp. Def: 70 Spd: 90 New Abilities: (1) Friend Guard; (2) Competitive; (Hidden) Magic Bounce New Moves: Follow Me; Helping Hand; Power Gem; Baton Pass; Solar Beam; Refresh.
@slavkei 2 жыл бұрын
It's so weird how they make a game like Pokemon, where the message is "All pokemon are good pokemon" but they also design the game like an RPG with progression- the local bugs are meant to give you high power from levels 10-17ish, when most of your other stuff is still at its base form, where your starter evolves and starts to eclipse the bugs. Same with the rattata-types- meant to take over at level 20 when your bugs start falling behind, and fill in the gap until you hit your level 32-36 area where your starter reaches its final form, with the biggest and beefiest mons being found at endgame in the form of legendaries and pseudos. If they were just honest about the idea that you are SUPPOSED to be replacing pokemon and didn't try to cram the narrative about "All pokemon are viable and good and you should love them all" into a game designed to clearly NOT fit that narrative, I think I'd have a lot more respect for the design of the pokemon games. As it is, they feel like they combined a bunch of good but not particularly compatible ideas and just kind of soldered them onto each other without worrying about fit or finish.
@jaschabull2365 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, I guess there are more ways to be "good" and "worthy of love" than by being the most useful in competitive battle (it's not like it makes no sense to love your dog if it can't beat up everyone else's dog), but I see what you mean, especially considering how little else there is to do with your pokémon apart from battle with them, certainly anything that's anywhere near as satisfying. I guess it kind of feels natural to have a power progression throughout the game story, as not only does it keep players from coming in over their head at the start of the game, it gives them perks of new stronger monsters to catch the further they keep with the game. Which likely seems to be a big part of why power creep keeps occurring (if each gen didn't introduce something more impressive than the last, the series might read as boring to keep with and more players might only last for one gen, then leave after they've caught the greatest there is to catch). Though at the same time it kind of feels natural for a game where your RPG characters are next to literally your pets to have a sentimental air to the narrative. Being up-front about the game's being meant to have a turnover of these monsters is hard to do without coming off as cynical, or even making the whole series come off as ugly to quite a few. Even as-is, Pokémon training is compared to cockfighting or dog-pit fighting - the series would be be next to impossible to defend from such accusations if the objectifying philosophy towards these creatures were openly sold, rather than only displayed by a few characters put in a bad light like Paul. Basically, I'm not sure it's just a matter of being up-front, as when applied to a 'mon-genre game, the philosophy that's nudged towards in standard RPG gameplay is pretty hard to be candid about without risking leaving a really bad taste in some players' mouths.
@Dracon350 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaschabull2365 i mean i'll make the argument that that's the game's philosophy isn't even 'all pokémon are good' anyways. i think the game's philosophy is actually 'all pokémon can be useful'. the tagline of the series is 'gotta catch 'em all' and in all the games you're encouraged to catch as many pokémon as you can. the game wants you to experiment with your team, bringing in new members, retiring other ones, maybe even having a rotating team. i don't think at any point does the game try and trick you into thinking that all pokémon are equal. there are plenty of lines about how pokémon are useful and can be good, but the idea that all pokémon are equal isn't a common theme from what i can remember. but the game does make a point about how all pokémon can be useful. sure, you're not gonna take dustox to the elite 4, but having one on your team when you fight Brawly makes him a literal joke due to dustox's quadruple resistance to fighting. plenty of pokémon will never see the light of OU, but pokémon are never, and will never be designed with the competitive scene in mind. they're designed within the idea that you'll encounter them at certain points of the game, and for the most part plenty of pokémon can and are useful in specific instances. there's really only a key few who pretty much will never have any use depending on when you gain access to them, where you'd only use them if there was some sort of sentimental value. that said, i personally believe those type of pokémon are few and far between. i believe most of them have their niches and can be useful if utilized correctly in the context of the games.
@jed537 2 жыл бұрын
The absolutely almighty alliterations from this man, my lord
@Mega1UpMan 2 жыл бұрын
Kellen using this episode to practice his alliteration skills
@ActualTrash8 2 жыл бұрын
0:58 and 1:04 wow they really nailed it with that amazing, astonishingly awesome and appealing alliteration.
@titouanrobin874 2 жыл бұрын
That face when you team up with your brother, and yet your video is still shorter than Masquerain's or Chimecho's. How sad.
@saltmines5761 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like the idea eluded to when he said actually regaining health from stealth rocks. In reality, an ability that restores a set amount of health (like 1/16 or 1/8 health) every time the Pokémon takes any form of damage (direct or indirect) would be a cool idea, unless it’s already done and I’m just forgetting. For anyone who has played Risk of Rain 2, this would be like the Planula boss item and work in the same vein where it wouldn’t really help in the face of massive, flat damage that would one shot but be helpful in staving off chip damage.
@aidenpons9584 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, there's Leftovers, and a couple of bizarre moves like Aqua Ring, but those activate end of turn as opposed to just taking damage.
@HazeEmry 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of when a pokemon takes damage, I would love it if the effect stayed on field like the screens and tailwaind but healed only when they switch in as though it had Regenerator
@rangertalksdogsgames7996 2 жыл бұрын
FSG is giving us the small videos to substitute until they can finally do the long ass Landorus video that will easily be over an hour
@AquaArrow27 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore your amazing application of alliteration.
@ClampEEGEE 2 жыл бұрын
"How bad were Beautifly & Dustox" Spoiler warning: it's two minutes shorter than the last video and he's covering two pokemon. So THAT bad.
@YayapLives 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a third evolution special attacker and getting out sped and out damaged by Gastly. *Edit: nvm they buffed it to tie the spooky first stage pokemon.
@FalcnPWNCH 2 жыл бұрын
When you see an *_'early-route bug-type line'_* in the title of the video, you know it's gonna get brutal, this is just utterly apathetic to look at
@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын
Until Gen. 5 & onward.
@_nexus5943 2 жыл бұрын
The alliteration of B whenever he talks about Beautiflu and D whenever he talks about Dustox is hilarious 😭😂😂
@AwakeningShadows 2 жыл бұрын
FSG - "They were so outclassed that they were outclassed by Pokemon that were incredibly outclassed themselves." That's one way of putting it.
@jjtheenton 2 жыл бұрын
You know it's bad when it's an 8 minute video with two Pokémon.
@gabr.7878 2 жыл бұрын
I get very happy when I see another one of these videos
@Zalaniar 2 жыл бұрын
Love the alliteration and poetic rhythm of your delivery lol
@Uvirith 2 жыл бұрын
"...even if stealth rocks somehow restored their HP." Petition to make health rocks a real move.
@hbb1939 2 жыл бұрын
i second
@mingiboy9253 2 жыл бұрын
I personally love Beautifly, and it will be forever a member of my Emerald playthroughs no matter how bad it is
@officerj2002 2 жыл бұрын
Yay finally I have been waiting for this video too. I’m a Pokémon generation 3 lover. I grew up with the gen 3 games
@flyingeaglex6960 2 жыл бұрын
loving all the alterations coming with dustox's analyze
@midnightmoonlit3741 2 жыл бұрын
Petition for a “How good was Venusaur Actually” remake.
@M3rtyville 2 жыл бұрын
pls don't. I will be death before we get a video on Deoxys
@robinthefool8960 2 жыл бұрын
Personality? I never knew that’s how they evolved
@daphenomenalz4100 2 жыл бұрын
Love how the 4th move on Beautiful in gen 6 was "N/A lol"
@SensitiveDeku 2 жыл бұрын
loving all the hoenn ‘mons these past couple weeks!❤️
@benjaminknight8041 2 жыл бұрын
To buff these bugs into bottom tier viability, I'd probably just slap 30 points onto Dustox's HP and 20 onto Beautifly's speed
@chillcloak 2 жыл бұрын
When all the alliterations started, I cracked up. This is why I love FSG.
@seiichiji1543 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like False Swipe is contemplating life while making this video.
@ktvx.94 2 жыл бұрын
When there's nothing good to say, letting out your inner poet is a valid option.
@kas4908 2 жыл бұрын
His alliteration is astounding!
@hndgmp 2 жыл бұрын
love Jessie's dustox 'til this day
@trevorjamesnegus 2 жыл бұрын
Her taste in mons *chef's kiss*
@aidenpons9584 2 жыл бұрын
4min and 5s is a new record for quickest covering of one Pokemon
@Sableguy97 2 жыл бұрын
8 minutes?! This is like the highlight of my week! I'm sure they had something else going for them!
@drax1s729 2 жыл бұрын
I can see him doing Ursaring, Beartic, and Pangoro all at once after this. All the bad, slow bears.
@juanderijillo 2 жыл бұрын
pangoro has a niche in the mid tiers what are you talking about?
@justinnzamora5366 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen how much damage a Guts Ursaring can make?
@hollylucianta6711 2 жыл бұрын
@@juanderijillo And Ursaring was UU until Black and White. Beartic is the only one who has been consistently awful.
@nathanblumprazeres3617 2 жыл бұрын
Pangoro is good in the lower tiers and even had a niche in it's debut generation OU what are you talking about? also pretty sure ursasing can do things in PU and such
@drax1s729 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinnzamora5366 I know. Ursaring was my absolute favorite pokemon back when I played the games. I had fun as I didn't really play competitively. Facade, Guts, with a status inducing item makes him hit like a train. I used the set. Yet that does nothing with his slow speed and weak defense's in a competitive environment. I've always wanted since I was a kid for him to get a huge, bulky, Kodiak-like brown bear evolution that gave him like 120 hp (+ 30), 100 defense (+25), and 150 attack (+20) But he's never been on Game Freaks radar ever. Even more that Urshifu is now a thing.
@GamingG4276 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder, how far are we along in the Hoenn pokedex being covered now?
@goGothitaLOL 2 жыл бұрын
Sceptile Blaziken Swampert Mightyena Linoone Beautifly and Dustox Ludicolo Shiftry Swellow Pelliper Gardevoir Masquerain Breloom Slaking Ninjask Shendinja Exploud Hariyama Nosepass* Sableye Mawile Aggron Medicham Manectric Plusle and Minun Roselia* Swalot Sharpedo Wailord Camuerupt Flygon Cacturne Altaria Zangoose Borboach (iirc) Crawdaunt Claydol Cradily Armaldo Milotic Banette Dusclops* Tropuis (iirc) Chimecho Absol Glalie Walrein Luvdisc Salamence Metargross Regirock Regice Registeel Kyogre Groudon Rayquaza Jirachi (iirc)
@JTLDrago94 2 жыл бұрын
The last move on Beautifly is funny 5:03 🤣
@IDontNeedYourShittyHandle 2 жыл бұрын
6:26 How HILARIOUS was Raticate's Normal-Type Z-Move Animation ACTUALLY?
@slimjunkin4635 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifly carried in my trash mon playthrough of ORAS. Will always have a place in my heart
@evangibbs7467 2 жыл бұрын
I love how every time a bad Pokémon gets reviewed, FSGs alliteration just comes screaming straight out of the gate
@pacoramon9468 2 жыл бұрын
Even Beedrill got that more than 10 minutes...
@b1acksteve 2 жыл бұрын
That's because Beedrill actually got power and stats later
@vernonowen5358 2 жыл бұрын
This whole video might as well be as long as what a single set of any of the big episode Pokémon would be
@nandreshiram2269 2 жыл бұрын
I love the alliteration throughout the Gen 3 section.
@isaacguessous6579 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Dustox has the lowest base stat total of all fully evolved Pokémon in a three stage evolutionary line. No wonder it sucked!
@HazeEmry 2 жыл бұрын
Still my favourite bug 💕
@Rikmach 2 жыл бұрын
Silly concept for a Pokemon ability: Lithovore. If the Pokemon enters the field when Stealth rocks is up, it eats them and regains health.
@agentblackbird9435 2 жыл бұрын
Recovery from Stealth Rocks sounds cool. Let’s call it something like “Rock Recovery”
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