How Baylor's "No-Middle" Defense Has Them Ranked #1 in the Country

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Baylor is the current number one team in the country thanks to a much improved defense. This video breaks down the X's and O's, defensive concepts, and players behind Scott Drew's defense. Including how it compares to Texas Tech's signature no-middle defense.
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@hoopvision68 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! More information on Baylor's defense in this post from our Hoop Vision Weekly newsletter here: hoopvision.substack.com/p/hv-weekly-defensive-juggernauts-272020

@bencharlton489 4 жыл бұрын

In football, the "plays" can be relatively obvious to make out. But in BBall, it's much harder for a typical fan to appreciate how much strategy and organization goes into running efficient, on-court plays.

@Yaboi_haseem 4 жыл бұрын

Ben Charlton yeah so 1000 bucks says this guy ain’t a football player cause you have to have the worst football IQ too think you can “obviously” make out football plays

@tristannesbitt6046 4 жыл бұрын

Chadwick Baldwin if he can read receivers routes before they even run them this man should be an NFL coach. It’s not easy lmao

@dinogaming4419 4 жыл бұрын

Ben Charlton bruh. Football is 10x more complex than basketball.

@jwinston1995 4 жыл бұрын

I think everybody’s missing the point. In football yes there are millions of “reads” and you can change the play beforehand but once the play is snapped, what happens is gonna happen. In basketball the plays/sets give you a foundation with several progressions and possibilities. Apples to oranges

@dinogaming4419 4 жыл бұрын

@@jwinston1995 I guess I agree but that isn't what the dude was saying. He was saying how strategy and organization is much more complex than football. That is the most incorrect statement ever.

@colec264 4 жыл бұрын

My high school team runs this, it’s based on instinct once a man gets beat essentially and is honestly fun to run, especially scramble.

@matiangk171 4 жыл бұрын

Cole C my high school varsity team runs this and we’ve won three straight state championships

@owenheinze5980 4 жыл бұрын

Matiang K cool! What state are you in, my team might have played you guys

@ethanshields6679 4 жыл бұрын

My high school team runs this too and it’s got us ranked 2nd in the state

@Cjemijrue3 3 жыл бұрын

My team runs this, we haven't won a game in 3 seasons

@xxx_monte6714 3 жыл бұрын

@@matiangk171 congrats bro my team just won state championship this is the first time we won it every since 2016 our defense was great and our overall record was 21-1 we went on a 16 game win streak

@vagary1926 4 жыл бұрын

This is a strong defense against “inside-out” offenses, but a high-assist 3-point shooting team will eat this up.

@HZ-qj3yc 4 жыл бұрын

Seems great for highschool college but not pros where anyone can hit a open catch shoot.

@nathaniel8186 4 жыл бұрын

Vagary closest thing to that would be Villanova who they already beat or maybe Dayton

@evans4189 4 жыл бұрын

BYU top 3 in nation in apg and 3p%

@Gvvenk 4 жыл бұрын

The warriors use this defense a lot

@kaberle71 4 жыл бұрын

@@Gvvenk Warriors are doing great this year

@penitent1889 4 жыл бұрын

This actually just like modern lacrosse defense. Very interesting

@tronskee32 4 жыл бұрын

Will Hays how so? Idk shit about lacrosse but I’m intrigued by your thought

@martyschwartzhere9290 4 жыл бұрын

Same.

@Luke-nf5ud 4 жыл бұрын

tronskee32 you force dodgers down the sides because the further you go down the side the worse the shot angle is. The way in which the backside defenders hedge and switch in Baylor’s defense is similar to this

@guiltycountyboi 4 жыл бұрын

thank you for the insight interesting

@tronskee32 4 жыл бұрын

Father thanks bro. I actually looked it up myself too. I’m black & from Chicago so isn’t really a thing for me. I fucks with it

@mobyblitzyt3237 4 жыл бұрын

As a newbie on the game of basketball and a first time player. This is what I do on defense. I always force them to the baseline or to where my teammate was. But my teammates always blames me for asking help defense. Then as I watched this video. All I have is happiness knowing that I did something right from the start and someone appreciates it. 💯

@jdelgado216 4 жыл бұрын

Defense is always team effort, good approach

@ATLMike94 4 жыл бұрын

Well in man to man defense it's not good to let the ball get pass you & call for help. It leaves someone open for an easy bucket. Try to communicate with your teammates that you prefer zone defense and maybe they won't give you a hard time. Communication is key on Defense

@marvinstheman88 4 жыл бұрын

It all depends on the scheme. Baylor practices this way. All 5 players on the court know exactly what to do in that situation. In a classic man to man or a pressure man, you would defend in different ways than this. Indiana used to play a legendary man to man defense where everyone was expected to play straight up, no help, ever. You can't freelance on defense and do something if that's not how it's schemed. You'll mess your whole team up. But I like to play this way. It lets your defense be aggressive and dictate the play rather than react.

@dangelodrummond8315 4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate defense actually being played !!!

@jwinston1995 4 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Jones bruh how many times you gonna say this lmao. All coaches teach force baseline and force to the corners. Baylor’s is a disciplined team effort

@marvinstheman88 4 жыл бұрын

@@jwinston1995 You may think that, but I literally left a college team in part because the coach wanted us to force middle. He would ream out players who allowed baseline. He also couldn't understand why teams would make 3s at a high clip when we played zone. So not every coach knows this stuff, no matter how simple it seems.

@jwinston1995 4 жыл бұрын

marvinstheman88 you’re supposed to force baseline then close off the drive. Are you saying he was against that too? That’s weird and i retract my statement. Didnt mean to speak in absolutes

@tylerc2119 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t know why more college teams don’t force baseline. that’s all I did in high school

@coach9410 3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s personnel driven! If you don’t have athletic kids that don’t contest well i personally won’t tell my kids to force baseline!

@devvv4616 4 жыл бұрын

so fun to play defense like this as a team. anticipating passes the whole time

@jaythomason1979 4 жыл бұрын

True! This makes you actually want to play defense

@theartofkombatt 4 жыл бұрын

I really like how you don’t leave out the few negatives to this defense. Shows everyone watching that you’re honest and gives you a real good look at the Baylor defense.

@FinnBiscuit34 4 жыл бұрын

Once Beard created the best defense in college hoops everyone started implementing him and coach Adam's defensive philosophy. Chris Beard is the Meta.

@each1teach1academy43 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve been doing this for years and every coach in the country have watched my teams do it. Croin from Cincinnati is another one

@rkwittem 4 жыл бұрын

He got the ideas from the nba but ok

@jibbo123 4 жыл бұрын

@@each1teach1academy43 he doesnt even coach at cincy anymore.....hes at ucla

@each1teach1academy43 4 жыл бұрын

jibbo123 I know where he is

@Noles4life77 4 жыл бұрын

My high school coach has been running this since before 1990. He won a state ship doing it. Back then people thought he was running a zone because the amount of help defense baseline, and the amount of switching on the baseline drives and the scrambles

@FTW3152 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. I'm a Baylor fan and I've noticed the switches but I don't know the game enough to know why we're getting the results that we are. You taught it in a way that someone who doesn't know much about basketball could get the basics.

@xJC2K 4 жыл бұрын

Davion Mitchell is arguably the best perimeter defender in the country and vital is a rodman esque player on this team they're the 2 keys to this elite defense

@brandoncr1294 4 жыл бұрын

JC2K they almost lost to OSU, and should have, big oof.

@xJC2K 4 жыл бұрын

@@brandoncr1294 first of all no they shouldn't have lol they outplayed osu and second of all unlike every other team in the NCAA (except sdsu and gonzaga who are playing MUCH easier schedules btw) they keep winning. Aren't losing any trap games. That's VERY rare.

@xJC2K 4 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyjones290 I mean Baylor is forcing players at Freddie Gillespie and Mark vital, who are both elite athletes and rim protectors. And that's if the offense beats all the elite defensive guards off the dribble. Very hard to beat at the college level.

@NRome 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!!! one of the best examples of good defense on KZfaq!!! We need more like this to show the kids. I also love the words giving a description of the defensive action!! Thank you.

@ejmccarthy1663 4 жыл бұрын

Just starting watching this channel. Great content! Everything is very insightful.

@TheAliasGaming 4 жыл бұрын

First time watching one of your videos. I’m a big fan of channels like Brett Kollmann for football analysis, yet I’m probably a bigger fan of the NBA overall. It’s hard to find channels that visually breakdown basketball schematics in an understandable, engaging way. The little graphics you add like the arrows and the role assignments as the play happens really shows the team’s overall goal AND their instincts. The seamless way it blends with your commentary adds another level and goes a long way for me. Great work and great video.

@payton2297 4 жыл бұрын

In This Offensive, Stat Driven Era You Really Do Not Know How Much I Appreciate This Video

@evansieger382 4 жыл бұрын

Jordan, I’m from Minnesota, and have been around Carleton basketball my entire life, which is where Fred played his first two years of college basketball. To see him have his own segment on your channel is mind blowing. I’m sure you’ve heard his story but if you want to know more feel free to let me know and I’d be glad to tell you.

@CrazyClash683 4 жыл бұрын

I was at their game this saturday and they are something special

@maxf6247 4 жыл бұрын

Love it! Please break down SDSU’s help man D next

@BallinLikeMike23 4 жыл бұрын

Finally BU getting some recognition 👏🏻

@carbonzo6 4 жыл бұрын

They’re literally #1 what the fuck you mean finally getting recognition

@zimno8067 4 жыл бұрын

its like their first year using this defense and they're #1wtf u talking about

@leohanson7461 4 жыл бұрын

Buddy if your a BU fan, try going to one of their games. Wack ass fans can’t even sell out their piss poor arena.

@Ryan-ly2pm 4 жыл бұрын

WarriorFL you realize the past 4 weeks games have been sold out right?

@leohanson7461 4 жыл бұрын

Motharussa so your implying that baylor basketball only has a chance to sell out their arena if they’re number 1 in the country

@1ghettoluxury 4 жыл бұрын

This is how my high school coach made us play this year

@connormorris9426 4 жыл бұрын

We run this same defense at my highschool , only difference is that on ball screens we force them to use the screen and the guy defending the screener will hedge out to make them dribble out of the attack and set the “no middle” concept back up. It’s worked really well all season.

@donfatty8599 4 жыл бұрын

This is Tom Thibedou defense, he been doing this style in the nba since 2008 as an assistant coach to Doc Rivers with the Celtics. This type of D also made the bulls a top defensive team as the #1 seed in 2011

@benjaminsarmiento8150 4 жыл бұрын

Lol this how I play my teams defence, here I thought I was the only one doing it. I'm glad to see this vid to give me confidence in what I'm teaching.

@Garbloom 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the SDSU breakdown!

@Nhxn_ 4 жыл бұрын

Gonna be waiting one for SDSU. They also been unbelievable on defense.

@YayCheese7 4 жыл бұрын

I just played till high school in Puerto Rico and this is the way we have always defended. Don’t give up the middle and always give the help. Best way to defend at any level of basketball.

@goated6963 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid

@unspherdcomb6174 4 жыл бұрын

Dang I thought I was alone doing this on 2k.. putting in my applications into college basketball coaching

@emili0r3y46 4 жыл бұрын

am i dumb or is this like the Heat defense from 2011-2014

@mdhcccc 4 жыл бұрын

How the hell did u recognize that

@nuggz8919 4 жыл бұрын

mdhcccc facts

@emili0r3y46 4 жыл бұрын

mdhcccc i watched an interview recently with coach fizdale & he discussed the defense of the Heat dynasty. he mentioned it as an elite trapping defense in which iso players would get swarmed. as a result, passing teams could be stifled unless they were laser accurate and that was why the Mavs won in 2011.

@Slickriek 4 жыл бұрын

Was finna say the same exact thing I just got done watching that fizdale interview too. More nba teams should run this defense tbh

@trulyjj7528 4 жыл бұрын

Ik couldn’t be the only one

@ibhansanity 4 жыл бұрын

That transition at 1:19 thought my phone was dying. Great Vid though.

@TexasKing100 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if teams will start attacking the switches in different ways. Like, from what I can tell, they switch based on who goes to which side, so would just having the guy who set the pick, roll into the hole behind the defender who switched and in front of the guy who was looking to the other side and now out of reach on making a play

@zackdwyer7489 4 жыл бұрын

Went to elementary school with Freddie Gillespie, that man is special Baylor is lucky to have him

@seokwonkim2383 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Very informative, but for this length mix up the music! the track is fine but gets very repetitive after 3-5 minutes.

@bdotcurry9177 4 жыл бұрын

Strong-side Zone. The most popular NBA defense over the last decade or so.

@gloriac.2795 3 жыл бұрын

Watching this as a 2021 victory lap 😌

@terrootti 4 жыл бұрын

It's golden rule in soccer defense (in basically any level of the game). Both sports have a lot to learn from each other I believe

@harits3872 4 жыл бұрын

This is just great man to man defense

@leemcdonald1342 2 ай бұрын

Hello. Does this channel have a video of Texas Tech's version of the No Middle Defense?

@BrentSchmurda 4 жыл бұрын

Could you cover SDSU?

@erikravey8313 2 жыл бұрын

Please breakdown the Abilene Christian University defense.

@franciscosamir5256 2 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking a defensive scheme or better to just call it a norm, where you send your attacker to his weak hand every time, regardless if it's middle or baseline... How would that look and would it work?

@YourPlug1 4 жыл бұрын

Everybody has been #1 this year. Won’t be no perfect bracket this year thats for sure.

@YourPlug1 4 жыл бұрын

zonex productions true but anybody can win this year even those small mid major schools imo.

@BaldguyWifi 4 жыл бұрын

YourPlug there won’t ever be one dawg lmao

@abakada9191 4 жыл бұрын

DAMN THIS IS WHAT THEY TAUGHT ME IN ELEMNTARY BASKETBALL ITS CRAZY!!! dont let them drive in the middle

@corysimmons455 3 жыл бұрын

Who cares

@CC-sc3zb 3 жыл бұрын

@@corysimmons455 you do since you replied

@abhinavgarg9632 4 жыл бұрын

I kept thinking the help caption was the player with ball crying for help because he was locked down

@each1teach1academy43 4 жыл бұрын

Ice picking rolls should only be used when a big is involved all guards/forwards should switch and run to the gap

@nateschalk5471 4 жыл бұрын

my high school has been doing this defense for 20 years

@HoodieBJ_Bgn 4 жыл бұрын

yo can you do Leonard Hamilton Defense

@troylachowski2476 4 жыл бұрын

Breakdown San Diego State!

@AJames_ 4 жыл бұрын

I never understood why coaches were/are against switching defensively?

@_vMoon 4 жыл бұрын

Dope

@kolbyhuseman9635 3 жыл бұрын

Defense switched from zone to man when they hired Grant McCasland who coaches hard nosed man as good as anyone, they hired him from midwestern a d2 and he’s now at North Texas, but when they got him is when they transformed defensively

@sbgken 4 жыл бұрын

davion mitchell got fastbreak stopper on platinum 😂

@creydadj 2 жыл бұрын

Stopping the middle is very essential regardless of what kind of defense you do. Prevents the middle man to be a triple threat on offense.

@MrCheese1572 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent job. Sic 'em bears!

@drjohnson920 2 жыл бұрын

The nba players don’t even seem to know that defense can be taken to these high levels

@jamesmarkley7155 4 жыл бұрын

How do you explain VIRGINIA'S force middle defense that is insanely good?

@mdhcccc 4 жыл бұрын

Either no middle or all middle, either can work

@laudedlonnie3278 4 жыл бұрын

Just like any zone it has soft spots. But can only be beat with the right placement and ball movement.

@CoachingStrategies 3 жыл бұрын

01:46 Basics of the system

@campos1345 4 жыл бұрын

Go bu go bu go bu.... 🤚🤚 sic em

@ltkben6690 4 жыл бұрын

If a team gets hot beyond the ark they will be in trouble but this is a good strategy to force harder shots

@felix3033 4 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Jones that’s any zone 🤷‍♂️

@Ub3rSk1llz 4 жыл бұрын

baylor vs dayton would be an awesome match

@jacksongames1016 4 жыл бұрын

This is what my middle school team does our coach is an ex nba player and he went to Louisville

@user-we4wk3nm7f 4 ай бұрын

Number 1 in the country that is absolutely impressive 👏. Yes. Go Baylor 😊. God bless 🙏

@VistyMisty 4 жыл бұрын

oh cryer comin next year baylor gon be cold next season too ✊🏽

@drjohnson920 2 жыл бұрын

I think teams should always switch constantly and proactively

@godbez664 4 жыл бұрын

Pass the ball it always moves faster than the defense. Not enough teams have smart veteran players in college anymore tho so you can see why this defense is highly successful

@drjohnson920 2 жыл бұрын

Mitchell is on the kings and I swear the kings coaches don’t even know that strategy and switching etc exists

@MikeMars- 4 жыл бұрын

Someone's just going to get hot against them come tourney time. Happens almost every year. Respect the concept though.

@sbeeezy23 3 жыл бұрын

🥶

@jakobebryant2757 4 жыл бұрын

Who the offense on this team. Who their best scorer

@nathaniel8186 4 жыл бұрын

jakobebryant27 offense is 25th in kenpom, 20th on barttorvik. Offense is led by upperclassman guards, Jared Butler and Freddie Gillespie

@soheal3674 4 жыл бұрын

bro good vid, but u need to coach my man

@izach3 4 жыл бұрын

been playing like this in 2k for years

@Likerios22244 4 жыл бұрын

How you do it

@kylemalachowski 4 жыл бұрын

In soccer there is actually something like this. Force the other team to one side and then just attack and hope for a mistake

@donteclark9558 4 жыл бұрын

Shell principle nothing out of the ordinary but they swarm

@H1MXavier 4 жыл бұрын

Baylor has always recruited big, long, athletic guys. Being better on defense should've been a given.

@RemolzMangoz 4 жыл бұрын

A flaw to this defense is the amount of effort of the individual required to play this at a high level. Will this kind of intensity night in and night out sustain in the tournament or will players be too gassed. We’ll see in March

@Donotdisturb946 3 жыл бұрын

Here after Baylor just won the natty✋🏼

@johnblademusic 3 жыл бұрын

Who’s here after Baylor won the national championship?

@jimmie6331 4 жыл бұрын

Toronto Raptor vibes on this defense

@TELEthruVOXx 4 жыл бұрын

great vid. i love this swarming defense... but imo this has kinda ruined march madness becouse TT, baylor, sarycuse etc. get on these insane defense runs and smother the NCAA super teams. so you done get these classic march madness moments. or the ones we get involve lesser knows guys. cuz the “ stars” get shut down. any who. thx for the vid.

@nathaniel8186 4 жыл бұрын

TELEthruVOXx makes march madness better in my opinion

@jzkio1160 4 жыл бұрын

Tf is pop, ice and drop? Explanation??

@jack-7331 4 жыл бұрын

I force baseline in 2k and it’s op wit lakers

@ronaldh6466 4 жыл бұрын

Great D works in College just need a top 25 offense to go with it or you pretty much have no shot at a national championship. Coming from a UVA fan. Great video. 👍

@bugsyproductions3140 Жыл бұрын

Aka the funnel down defense

@mikeyg9203 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like the raptors defence

@judah9934 3 жыл бұрын

Texas tech gots a tread running now with no middle defence😂

@ethandickey7525 4 жыл бұрын

FSU defense?

@stonechild4him 4 жыл бұрын

this aint no zone... this is just proper man defense , this is how defense should look period .

@darkaquawings 4 жыл бұрын

stonechild4him imagine if every team did it 🤓 that would ruin the fun but build the competitiveness and aggression.

@mobamba5573 4 жыл бұрын

They better defend the middle against WV.

@drjohnson920 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think the kings even know what these concepts are

@undergroundreactions3729 4 жыл бұрын

Bro........ Every man-to-man defenses' first priority is forcing the ball handler to the sideline and baseline. The sideline and baseline is an extra defender... When you get the ball to the middle, a man to man defense breaks down. Why? Because every time you can reverse the ball opposite, you can break down the defense... This isn't anything new.

@hoopvision68 4 жыл бұрын

Pack line defenses like Virginia, Louisville, and Arizona all influence (or in some cases even force) the ball to the middle. Pack line help comes from players one pass away from players in the gap. No-middle defenses are different because their help comes from the "low man" on the weakside. Here's video of what a man-to-man defense looks like that forces middle: twitter.com/hoopvision68/status/1202239820774486018

@undergroundreactions3729 4 жыл бұрын

hoopvision68 Good points. I was thinking you were meaning that this is the first teams to ever play man to man like they do. I’m a WVU fan, but Baylor easily has the best half court defense in the country this year. They can force sideline and baseline so well because of their quickness.

@angelicasnow144 4 жыл бұрын

This is basic help defense, you force your defender baseline and if they get to the baseline its either a trap or a help

@devinbooker4151 4 жыл бұрын

Imagie harden if he was still in college he would avg 68 points a night

@everybodyeatsb1103 4 жыл бұрын

DEVIN BOOKER u put any NBA player in college and they’ll average 30 that’s why there in the Nba.

@cheerioss-9121 4 жыл бұрын

Everybody eats B He’ll avg 68 points “yeah every player in the nba would avg 30”

@jwinston1995 4 жыл бұрын

Everybody eats B ...... you realize all them nigga were college and not averaging 30 right? Or were you saying take them at age 28 and put them back in college with that talent level..

@dimes3634 4 жыл бұрын

@@everybodyeatsb1103 Harden is currently averaging 35 in the NBA.

@baddoomguy1986 4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't happen in the ACC.

@onlyfacts3178 Жыл бұрын

THIS IS MORE LIKE BAD OFFENCE...it has nothing to do with DEFENCE. MOST misses i saw here was because the player with the ball can pass and has no basic fundamentals. And the other misses are open shoots, thats the problem with players that can only shoot from 3.