Better than 35 anima at least

not totally shocked loot what they did to my boy N"zoth. major lore character just gets a patch. now arthas in SL only getting afew scenes.

@@cobblebottom8421 Arthas getting a few scenes is an Over-Generous way of putting it. I am probably preaching to the Choir but. Arthas doesnt get Anything. He is Physically present in 3 Scenes, and we only knew about 2 of those. The Scene where Uther and Devos yeet his unconscious self into The Maw. The Scene where the Jailer pulls out the Crystal that we eventually learn contained what was left of Artha's soul at the time, since it (the Crystal) is used to Forge the Sword. And the Scene where the Blue Ball declared Arthas by the others who are present is Monologued at by Sylvanas of All People, and then promptly blown away, like a fart in the wind. Since he exists as an Object not a Character at that point. "Anima Battery" is a very Apt metaphor from the video, for what The Writers of Shadowlands did with the Character. He doesnt even have a Single Line of Dialogue.

How is Blizzard so stupid by wasting such an opportunity.

@@2face88 they had the goal destroy the old to make way for the new,I mean the entire shadowlands trailer literrally had the message screw old fans and old devs with the tearing of the crown.

Well, I am hoping that we won't feel the need of making videos like this again, in all fariness

The failure writers who wrote Shadowlands should be barred from writing or working on others materials for they do no understand the fundamentals of writing for an audience.

@BlackMeraBun Warcraft 1 and 2 were the most black and white stories ever, there was no nuance, no gray morality. It was, Humans = Good; Orcs = Bad. That's why they did 180 on the orcs in WC3, to give the story more depth and nuance. That's what made Wacraft as an IP so good, since there's only so much story you can tell of "Orcs bad need to stop them" before it gets redundant and boring.

Uhm, wow, don't think so :) Arthas was horrible. He was the perfect story of the Heroic Fall into darkness. He just didn't need to be an anima fart

@ZoomerStasi you do realize that the deepest and most interesting character blizzard ever wrote was Sylvanas. Arthas was iconic, but not interesting, he was pretty clear cut character and that's fine since it worked wonders for his story of beloved Prince descending into cruel, sadistic Death Knight who later on becomes that which he initially sought out to destroy (erogantly). And at least Arthas suffered blizzard's shit writting for one patch, whereas Alex Afrasiabi (who hated Sylvanas) was poking tiny inconsistencies into her character ever since MoP as well as completely butchering her character during BFA and Shitfest that was SL's writing (Denathrius and Winter Queen were cool). Also Arthas was sadistic asshole in WC3 with evidence to show it even in Wrath. He tortured and borderline r@ped Sylvanas with the imagery from the books and comics that delve into the specific scenes of it in which WC3 doesn't do, because it would make Arthas instantly unlikable. He tortures Sylvanas for nearly another year after fall of Quel'Thalas out of pure spite and malice which Ner'zhul LK doesn't give 2 shits about so long his plans are being fulfilled, so he clearly wasn't being controlled. Ner'zhul as LK even has to reach out to even commune with Arthas while he was in the Eastern Kingdoms, clearly displaying that Ner'zhul wasn't an omnipresent being in Arthas's mind. When we kill LK in Wrath and get "Sealed Chest" via Shadowmourne, Items within it are keepsakes of Arthas and are dear to him. Well, inside the chest are: Jaina's locket, very sweet and sad. Arthas' training Sword that he used during the training with Muradin, once again very touching. Badge of the Silver Hand that Uther personally bestows upon Arthas, very much of a bonding moment for both characters. Blood of Sylvanas that Arthas made himself as a trophy during the torture of Sylvanas. Huh, that's a bit fucking weird, dark and fucked up of a keepsake to hold dear, wouldn't you say? Arthas took pride in torturing someone who was opposing him to protect her people from Scourge's advance and did amazing job until Dar'khan betrayed Quel'Thalas to Arthas. Arthas' story is good even though his actions are fucked up, because of the "Hero's fall to a Villain" and it works doubly so due to how truly low Arthas as a person falls. This has nothing to do with being Sylvanas or Arthas simp or any of that, because if you read the story writers aren't shy about showing how truly deplorable Arthas pre-LK was and dumbasses will still chant "Arthas did nothing Wrong". Him turning into 35 anima was dumb and mind boggling, no one will argue on that, but don't make excuses for Arthas as a character.

​@@FutayuriShironekoThe fact you think Denathrius is cool makes your whole comment irrelevant, the fact they retconned the Nathrezim because of this one shitter and you think he is "cool" tells me all I need to know. The Nathrezim, the most cunning and deceptive beings, reduced to mere puppets of this shitter Denathrius LOL 😂😂😂

⁠​⁠@@MarcelianOnlineHave you played WC3? The guy tried to do everything to save everyone, he chased a demon that he believed was responsible for the Scourge to the end of the world, he was willing to become cursed and die in a frozen wasteland just to prevent innocent people suffering. To say he is horrible when he is being manipulated by cosmic level entities that he does not even know exist, is a bit random right? I mean the whole campaign is a plot to get Arthas to grab the sword that steals his soul. Arthas is the first person to fall to Frostmourn and he kills Mal’ganis not as a revenge, but as an obeying instrument of the Lich King. He is a flawed character and he is very human, but this whole Blizzard retcon is stupid. And to say he is horrible when he is literally living in a Trueman show where everything is constructed to decieve him, break him mentally and then steal his soul and make him into a pawn. He is a powerful warrior and a prince, that is ultimately powerless against his enemies, he does almost everything right and with good intentions, what a horrible guy

Arthas deserved better!

Yes that was the point, swift merciful dead instead a transormation into a rotten ghoul and families tearing one another apart and then going to do so to other people of Lordaeron

:))))))))))

It felt that way

Awesome! Thank you! We will see if we can do more

Agreed

Ah, a fellow cultured man, Lorks, of the Bearded Clan

A single newly turned zombie could 1v1 a trained soldier. Do you wanna risk that spread and time via quarantine? Nvm that you actively have a necormancer turning the people. Uther and jaena didnt even try to argue for an alternative reason, just blame arthas for the actiom he HAD to do. 2 cowards that made arthas effectively fall.

With all this being said and done, I am still looking forward to a better storytelling

@@MarcelianOnline Definitely. Noone stands to gain from this terrible situation. Time will tell, but one thing is certain: After Shadowlands, the free lunch era for Blizzard is over.

Thank you! 😃

Dragonflight feels different, I hope they do the story justice just like they're doing most of everything else

Glad you enjoyed it!

Holy shit :))))

Nippleman was a different kind of villain in the end

Member-berries, dude that's a good one, I might take it :D

@@MarcelianOnline awesome!! Yeah definitely use it. That seems to be their #1 produce item they have in the story department. 😂

The 1st lich king was Nerzhul who was a shaman then the helm pass to Arthas and both mind fought for control of the power of the helm.

@@ricardomolina905 yes, and because it takes place AFTER that whole mind fight, it should imply that isn't at full control, which is also mentioned by Uther in Halls of Reflections

The Last Jedi was soo good, imagine having that level of redemption

@@MarcelianOnline I'm complete opposite you. lol to me TLJ was absolute garbo. Return of the Jedi is godlike in my eyes, and that bit of redemption would of been nice.

:(

I stopped watching Starwars after episode 7 and glad I did

and danuser.

You think so? Maybe I have been drinking too much Retcon Cola and wasn't bothered by it to notice

what about arthas arthas should have been redeemed because he is brainwashed and manipulated.

Well... I don't know about that :)

@@MarcelianOnline it's a meme that Asmongold always says :)

@@Coheed420 It's a truth that Asmongold always says! :D

Asmon-Who??

I think its more tragic that his righteous character was corrupted :)

It was a WTF moment for us