How DC Should Have Made MAN OF STEEL 2

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In this video, Owen discusses the news of Henry Cavill's return as Superman, how Warner Bros should produce Man of Steel 2 and the comic book stories they could adapt for the film.
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@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
Well... this is awkward.
@litcomicsproductions5359
@litcomicsproductions5359 Жыл бұрын
more pitch videos like this please
@ektran4205
@ektran4205 Жыл бұрын
MAN of TOMORROW adaptation
@tomtomtombangbang
@tomtomtombangbang Жыл бұрын
Yeah....But still nice to hear what could have been.
@rick9977015
@rick9977015 Жыл бұрын
Prior to your video on Up Up...where he saves the little girl, I didn't know that one existed. Don't know what a budget to adapt something like that would be like...I thought that was a good story.
@ShowdeQuetzal
@ShowdeQuetzal Жыл бұрын
I do belive that Superman vs The Elite will be the best option to destroy the "Superman is boring" opinion of many people
@kickonbums710
@kickonbums710 Жыл бұрын
No he should fight mongul and brainiac. Elite is boring
@_Snafu_
@_Snafu_ Жыл бұрын
I think both of these ideas should be done. Brainiac-referring to the Geoff Johns story- is perfect to show how Superman is challenged not just mentally but emotionally. Same goes for Mongul with for the man who has everything. The elite would be great to show how he stands by his principles and no matter what anyone says his way of living is something to aspire too, because even though some may turn their nose at him, it’s the proper way to be.
@kickonbums710
@kickonbums710 Жыл бұрын
@Matwitch but the story is boring. Superman needs to fight mongul or brainiac. Elite are weaklings compared to superman
@kickonbums710
@kickonbums710 Жыл бұрын
@Matwitch absolutely
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 Жыл бұрын
@@kickonbums710 Superman vs the Elite isn't boring!!! It confronts this stupid idea that Clark is "boring" and challenges his optimistic world view
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
Need to get Mathew Vaughn or the guy who directed Top Gunn Maverick. Bring back the hopeful and inspirational Superman who battles big threats, but still has time to rescue a cat from a tree.
@kasrasadrehashemi174
@kasrasadrehashemi174 Жыл бұрын
But that boring -matt jarbo
@whynot1548
@whynot1548 Жыл бұрын
U wouldve gotten the hopeful Superman earlier if u hadn't had a collective fit when Snyder put him through a much more believable and mature odyssey! But no, u acted like crazy Evangelicals
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
@@whynot1548 no, I don't think i would've. That would've gone away from Snyder's vision. I consider the Snyderverse an Elseworlds story, similar to The Batman movie. I want a definitive DCEU now with a patriotic and inspirational Superman. I think with the right vision/director Henry Caville can definitely pull it off.
@powerbadpowerbad
@powerbadpowerbad Жыл бұрын
Henry did pull it off in MOS,people forget Supes was a ROOKIE,hadn't had the mantle of Superman very long,he was learning on the FLY.Fanboys are stuck in time,obsessing over an out-dated 70s film,need a modern day Superman.The world has changed so much since the 1970s and Supes should change with the times.Superman is an ALIEN pretending to be human.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
@@powerbadpowerbad Snyder tried that and it failed. It was an Elseworlds story. A what if. We don't need a deconstruction of Superman or for him to be changed drastically. People like Superman because of what he stands for. Truth, Justice, and the American Way. We need that back again. Look at how well people responded to Top Gun: Maverick. If they can figure out a way to do something like for Superman, people will love it.
@mray4784
@mray4784 Жыл бұрын
A Superman vs the Elite live action movie would be great.
@whynot1548
@whynot1548 Жыл бұрын
U pick the most childish Superman story? Where the "bad guys" kill everyone and the "good guy" kills nobody? It's a lazy story
@kickonbums710
@kickonbums710 Жыл бұрын
@@whynot1548 agreed. He should fight brainiac and mongul
@Isaacisaperson4677
@Isaacisaperson4677 Жыл бұрын
@@whynot1548 why should the good guys kill anyone? It's not lazy it shows what it means to a true hero
@Gr_fox
@Gr_fox 3 ай бұрын
​@Isaacisaperson4677 true and I find using characters like braniac in the second movie just makes it feel rushed
@seanc.4219
@seanc.4219 Жыл бұрын
The notion of adapting "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way? and Peace on Earth" really appeals to me; it would make for an amazing follow-up.
@graefx
@graefx Жыл бұрын
Brainiac being the iconic adversary for superman throughout my childhood, it's always been weird he's never been in a movie. I think part is just the trap all superhero movies fall in, particularly first ones, is having an evil mirror as the antagonist to meet the lead on the same level and go blow for blow, instead of being a foil.
@richmonddjan6822
@richmonddjan6822 4 ай бұрын
He was in KRYPTON, that show is so slept on. BRANIAC in KRYPTON is everything you want to see in a live action Braniac and his introduction and character is so 🔥🔥🔥
@thomasjohnson1885
@thomasjohnson1885 Жыл бұрын
I think a personal story is in order that really shows the importance of Superman as a man above our jaded ties to reality. He’s a champion of the oppressed show him be a character that deals with social issues. You can’t make a mediocre film it has to be great to truly show Superman is still relevant to a general audience
@whynot1548
@whynot1548 Жыл бұрын
So u want him to be a super sjw? 🤣
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
That sounds like what they're trying and failing to do in the comics when they replaced him with an aged up version of his son.
@WilliamTarver848
@WilliamTarver848 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually down with that, Thomas. Like what Owen said, Superman is suppose to be the ultimate beacon of hope for people around the world. There's storylines with Superman dealing with social issues like bigotry, poverty, and starvation, even a story where he saves immigrants from white supremacists in the workplace. Superman himself is a literal alien immigrant who grew up in America, but had his days where he feels just a little out of place in the world. Show the audience that although even he can't solve all of the world's problems, he'll try to help as many as he can and encourage people to help those around them. Have him dealing with down to earth issues while still dealing with large scale threats, like Braniac, Darkseid, Parasite, Lex Luthor, Cyborg Superman, Metallo, etc.
@JaiProdz
@JaiProdz Жыл бұрын
​@Matwitch right. Like he clearly doesn't read comics.
@bZman
@bZman Жыл бұрын
I didnt like snyders take on superman but I think Cavill is a great actor and wanna see him play the kind of superman he as a die hard fan would want to play
@tyler.w123
@tyler.w123 Жыл бұрын
Superman vs. The Elite was something I was originally against but now I'm 100% on board with the idea!
@whynot1548
@whynot1548 Жыл бұрын
That story has about as much depth as a Sesame Street episode.... "Saving dangerous supervillains-GOOD" "Killing dangerous supervillains-BAD." We're all adults here. That was the point of Man of Steel, with Sups reluctantly breaking Zods neck.
@tyler.w123
@tyler.w123 Жыл бұрын
@@whynot1548 And then Doomsday and Steppenwolf were both killed. I don't think the lesson of killing is bad has been fully realized yet.
@Isaacisaperson4677
@Isaacisaperson4677 Жыл бұрын
@@whynot1548 not every story needs to be complex and it has depth
@dws0828
@dws0828 Жыл бұрын
Bring on Brainiac! Great take and video as always
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you!
@classicnerd5875
@classicnerd5875 Жыл бұрын
I’d save Brainiac for a trilogy closer since he’s a world wide threat. Think they should start smaller with either Parasyte, Metallo, or Bizzaro.
@fm1668
@fm1668 Жыл бұрын
@@classicnerd5875 They should do Metallo with Luther as an overarching villain since their characters are intertwined and you could introduce Luther as a business tycoon.
@Isaacisaperson4677
@Isaacisaperson4677 Жыл бұрын
@@fm1668 parasite and bizzaro also fit in with that
@mcurran6505
@mcurran6505 Жыл бұрын
Whatever this upcoming film will be either a sequel or a reboot (like what James Gunn did with the Suicide Squad), this film has stay true to what Superman truly stands for and be something that fans old and new will definitely enjoy watching.
@whynot1548
@whynot1548 Жыл бұрын
U realize people did like Snyders vision, right? U comic fanatics were the ones that acted like he was some kind of blasphemer! Snyder merely was making the character go through trials to earn that hopeful finish. Seriously, did u even watch those movies? 🤣
@Isaacisaperson4677
@Isaacisaperson4677 Жыл бұрын
@@whynot1548 we're fanatics? US? Not the ones who threaten people when they don't get what they want? No we're the fanatics also it should be the other way around when people misrepresent the characters in the movies they should have read the comics.
@beechannel_6686
@beechannel_6686 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion "Secret Origin" and "Whats so funny about Truth..." are the best choices for Man of Steel 2 inspirations.
@UnchartedMedia
@UnchartedMedia Жыл бұрын
Finally, the video we've all been waiting for! The future looks bright for Superman!
@derekgreen7319
@derekgreen7319 Жыл бұрын
They should directly adapt superman the man of tomorrow animated move. It's great. It's a great story and really captures the essence of superman.
@outpostalpha
@outpostalpha Жыл бұрын
These are all excellent Superman stories that I would love to see Cavill play out on screen. Awesome video!
@thataintfalco7106
@thataintfalco7106 Жыл бұрын
Something I wish the dcu actually capitalized on is that Henry Cavill is actually a stellar actor. They make him play such a limited range of emotions, but he could definitely be a good Supes if they gave him the right direction
@richmonddjan6822
@richmonddjan6822 4 ай бұрын
Saw that Superman at the end of BA
@jaylucien669
@jaylucien669 Жыл бұрын
For the Man who has Everything is an incredible story. But a movie version would require half the film (if not more), take place in the Black Mercy's dream world and that's not what people want to see. However, Truth, Justice and The American Way could certainly work. But it's high time for Braniac. If they don't use him in MoS 2, then they need to build him up for the 3rd movie. Johns' Brainiac story from the late 2000's would be the perfect template to use. Superman For Tomorrow was based on it and that was one of the best Superman animated features ever. Oh, and the first Superman•Shazam crossover was Bronze Age, not Silver. Great video as always, Owen.
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Jay. These are excellent points!
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 Жыл бұрын
Instead of MoS 2, I would prefer they changed the title to Superman: (insert sub title), making it both a sequel but also a soft reboot in the franchise, much like the James Gunn Suicide Squad. As for the plot, I would love to see film focusing on Superman in Metropolis, with him fighting against Metallo. In this version, Metallo origin could take some inspiration from sci-fy shows like Robocop, with John Corben being a soldier who was turned into cyborg by Amanda Waller, trying to create her own group of super mercenary (like she did with Suicide Squad) to take down heroes like Superman, if he ever turn against humanity. However, he escape and, as he start to recover his memories, he decides to take revenge against Waller for turning him into robot, putting him in conflict with Superman. Waller presence would not only tie this film with Black Adam but also could create a ideological conflict between the character: While Waller would try to come up with plan to kill Metallo, Superman would be against, beliving he can defeat John without killing him.
@kylecarter1599
@kylecarter1599 Жыл бұрын
After seeing how Gunn handled closing the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy for Marvel, I'm super hyped for his version of Superman.
@benwasserman8223
@benwasserman8223 Жыл бұрын
I’d say borrow inspiration from Superman & Lois. Season 1 was essentially the Man of Steel story with a more optimistic Superman. And a more interesting twist with the Tal-Rho dynamic.
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 Жыл бұрын
Especially since the Eradicator in the comics was initially introduced after the death of superman
@HejaWolf
@HejaWolf Жыл бұрын
I love that idea! Superman and Lois is a great show and I love to see some elements of the show be used in the next Superman movie.
@aurahoneydew9607
@aurahoneydew9607 Жыл бұрын
I would be open the idea of *Last Son of Krypton (the Zod Jr arc)* and *Rebirths' (Superdad) arc* getting blended for the big screen. So that way we don't have to cram a time skip for Jon Kent to be the right age, see the Superman as a father, and have tension as it is the son of Zod.
@jamesrosengrant8675
@jamesrosengrant8675 Жыл бұрын
So the actual story could be a number of things, as this video shows. But I think the movie needs to start with Lois interviewing superman. Either use the interview to firmly separate the story from the previous timeline, or use it to have superman admit his wrongs in past movies and promise to always put lives first. Maybe give him a line about how after dying once himself, he now believes more than ever that life is a gift to be protected.
@ashuebot-tabi4449
@ashuebot-tabi4449 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a new film take inspiration from Morrison's non All-Star work, particularly his New 52 Action Comics and Superman and the Authority: they're both great modern portrayal of Superman's champion of the people status, something Morrison themselves admitted they found interesting about BvS. However, I fear WB isn't willing to take a risk on stories not universally loved by fans. The only thing I really want is a movie that's not ashamed of Cavill's prior films: I don't expect or even want every line to be a reference to Snyder's work, but I really don't want a Rise of Skywalker situation where they're constantly apologizing for every little thing fans didn't like. What Shazam did (a few props mentioning Clark's fights with Zod and Lex) is just enough for me.
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
I agree with almost all of this, particularly your comment about not ignoring/retconning the previous films. I think you can tell a lot of interesting Superman stories while incorporating the events of MoS/BVS/JL. Just a heads up, Grant Morrison uses they/them pronouns btw.
@ashuebot-tabi4449
@ashuebot-tabi4449 Жыл бұрын
@@OwenLikesComics Thanks, I tried to reflect that but saw I used the wrong pronouns.
@PeaceXShabazz
@PeaceXShabazz Жыл бұрын
The Man Of Tomorrow comics from the 90's, Superman For All Seasons, Smallvile Superman, & Superman: Up In The Sky, would be perfect comics to adapt for a Superman movie.
@billymccrary2246
@billymccrary2246 Жыл бұрын
I think they would add Jon Kent (Superman's son) to the universe so we can see Superman dealing with the challenge of fatherhood while Jon start developing the same abilities as his dad where Clark now dealing with his son developing powers while battling an new foe that threaten Metropolis (so Lex Luthor does not get reused for the upteen time!) and that villain could be Brainiac of the Ultra-Humanite (the guy was Superman's very first supervillain and arch-enemy before Lex Luthor were even published way back in the 1940s).
@Realfrogslayer
@Realfrogslayer Жыл бұрын
I feel like Up In The Sky would be absolutely amazing for introducing people to the character. Ppl need to see, what Superman is capable off and what he is ready to sacrifice for just one person. Not a person he knows or he's close to, but any person. They need to see no matter what, he'd come travelling through a whole universe, risking all he has, just to safe maybe even you or me. Ppl need to see, no matter how hopeless the situation seems, there is still hope with character and in the world he's a part of. Up In The Sky is perfect to set the status quo and makes clear to everybody, who he is and what he stands for. Only important thing will be, to stay close to the source material.
@IzayaLee1725
@IzayaLee1725 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that more superhero movies set during Christmas would be awesome so Peace on Earth is definitely up there for an adaptation
@stapuft
@stapuft Жыл бұрын
for some reason i have this image in my head, as the opening, that could in one scene, destroy the entire notion of a "dark" superman open it with a big climactic battle and hes seemingly getting beaten, cut to a far away place and there is a crowd of people screaming at a guy to not jump, cut back to the fight, you call tell superman heard that, so he stops holding back, beats the enemy in a few seconds, speeds off to grab them, and deliver them safely to the ground, without major injury, then he says something nice to the cops, and speeds off to talk to the guy, and try to save his life. which he succeeds in doing, by just talking to him, and listening to him, maybe even have him divulge a bit of his childhood to him to make him realize that hes not alone, only to fly away to save the world from another crisis, without anyone on the ground ever seeing him, because hes not doing it for the attention, or the fame, but out of genuine care for the people he shares a planet with.
@patrickdupuis9091
@patrickdupuis9091 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video! Great job! I really hope that a great Superman gets made really soon.
@jerryterwase9027
@jerryterwase9027 Жыл бұрын
As a subplot, the story of the day Superman couldn't save would also be a good choice . Taken from the bronze age of action comics, Superman was haunted by the souls of disaster victims who he was unable to save for making a choice to save other lives threatened at the same time, thus doubting himself for not being able to be in two places at once.
@SpeedDemon55
@SpeedDemon55 Жыл бұрын
I think a Kingdom Come style story where Clark rediscovers his love for humanity after Lois Lanes death. In a pessimistic world that hates him he shows Metropolis how they can help each other to a better tomorrow. Helping out his cousin Kara to control her powers and to get her anxiety of humans away.
@REaDComicsau
@REaDComicsau Жыл бұрын
They need to prioritise another Superman movie! James Gunn did say Superman is a high priority which is great.
@bradylewis1037
@bradylewis1037 Жыл бұрын
Bringing back Superman is really all about setting up the moment in Kingdom Come where Batson hits Superman with his Shazam lightning, but we'll see it between Black Adam and Superman instead.
@loganthomas2421
@loganthomas2421 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for MOS2 and I too think Superman vs the elite could work really well. Also happy you gave a shoutout to Superman up up and away because it’s my favorite Superman story of all time
@koushikraja331
@koushikraja331 Жыл бұрын
I would prefer an adaptation of "Up, Up and away", where superman's mission would be to save one little girl taken across the cosmos and go on a herculean adventure and introduce new spacefaring aliens across the DC universe while giving him the biggest challenges. Or, if they want a saga, do an adaptation of the recent "Warworld saga" by Phillip Kennedy Johnson. Not only would it expand on the kryptonian lore and do more insane world building, but it would give superman an insanely bigger challenge where he is depowered, on a strange world and has to save people not only from the iron grip of the monster that is Mongul but also from their own idea of what true strength is.
@maggiegermann1724
@maggiegermann1724 Жыл бұрын
honestly i think an up in the sky adaptation that explicitly takes place between the post credits scene of shazam and his cameo at the end of peacemaker would be great, to tell that amazing story and also be sort of a wink and nod like just because you didnt see him during this time doesnt mean he wasnt superman kinda thing
@JoeLovesComics
@JoeLovesComics Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! So many great ideas here, and so well presented.
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Joe!
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I'm not just thinking in terms of just the next movie. I'm thinking of a whole roadmap. The next MoS should be a solid popcorn flick. Introduce Brainiac and feature some great sci-fi action. Not saying it should be slavishly following Johns' book, but take some inspiration from it. Next will should be based off of What's so Funny about Truth, Justice and the American Way. Take all those themes in the book and explain why the world needs a character like Superman. They could address the criticisms so many people had about the dreary Superman in MoS and show him as growing into the icon. Then adapt Superman Rebirth and introduce Jon. Have the big showdown between Superman and Lex (who will be a figure lurking in the background of all previous movies) inspired by their fight in All-Star Superman.
@charlesgorman5188
@charlesgorman5188 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video my friend. Some of these Superman stories you talked about makes me want to go read them.
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
Please do!
@KrazyKryptonian
@KrazyKryptonian Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I’m not sure about bringing Snyder back though. Henry has been talking about wanting a Superman that is more joyful and optimistic, and I don’t think that Zack is the guy to do that. Also, you had mentioned that the Kents had moved back to Smallville during Rebirth. As I recall, they had actually moved to a place called Hamilton County, which happened to have a similar small farming town atmosphere to it, like that of Smallville. All in all though, good video. I enjoyed it. Well done.
@bryandempsey3840
@bryandempsey3840 Жыл бұрын
Great video. All good picks. Considering we last left Superman returning from the dead, there’s certainly an easy jumping off point for awe and wonder. Though personally I don’t feel beholden to the Zack Synder trilogy. I’d love to see a period piece, like Tom DeHaven’s “It’s Superman.” That would be a unique setting for a new trilogy.
@nocap4557
@nocap4557 Жыл бұрын
Superman vs Metallo is what I’ve been waiting for.
@vikramprasanna8908
@vikramprasanna8908 Жыл бұрын
Adapt any Superman story with a Superman who closely resembles his classic comic book personna, and don't let Zack Snyder anywhere near it. That's it.
@kasrasadrehashemi174
@kasrasadrehashemi174 Жыл бұрын
Yes but that persona too boring for matt jarbo
@kennethnguyen99
@kennethnguyen99 Жыл бұрын
Zack Snyder’s Justice League was top notch. It’s realistic and gritty. You’re just close minded and brainwashed to the boring goody two shoes of Clark
@bradleyouambo1371
@bradleyouambo1371 Жыл бұрын
The next Superman film needs to show us why he is loved by the public. The only appearances we have he destroyed metropolis in a fight with aliens. Then he is seen in the destruction of the capital building. Then when resurrected he is seen beating up the justice league with no regard for the collateral damage…again. So something that shows him as a hero is necessary.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka Жыл бұрын
I honestly would really love Superman rebirth with my Clark and Lois lane teaching there son Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self to be adapted for man of steel 2 because that would be really awesome and badass and tons of fun to see my favorite character on the big screen.
@evandavid2816
@evandavid2816 Жыл бұрын
Some interesting ideas there, Owen - of the ones you suggest, I think that personally I'd be most interested to see an adaptation of 'For the Man Who Has Everything', especially if Affleck and Gadot could reprise their own roles as well, yes...? (As a side-note, I'd also be very interested to see an adaptation of the story you showed a panel of from 19.04 to 19.10, namely Superman: Secret Identity by Kurt Busiek and Stuart Immonen; in which a boy called Clark Kent who lives a world which in which Superman already exists as a fictional character suddenly develops the Man of Steel's powers out of the blue, and follows him throughout his life as he tries, in essence, to live up to the myth in his own unique way - it might not work as a Man of Steel sequel per se, but it might work as a stand-alone examination of the Superman character a la the Joker movie, yes...?)
@samanthampreg
@samanthampreg Жыл бұрын
personally i'm hoping that the james gunn dcu has their "young superman" that theyve stated theyre interested in creating be jon, and cavill reprises his role as clark, but takes a backseat to being a father to the new generation. it'd be a great way to have the actor who is clearly very passionate about his role and looks fucking PERFECT for it come back and still play clark, while still fulfilling a more fresh take on dc's mythology.
@rolandoalvarado2979
@rolandoalvarado2979 Жыл бұрын
Your are absolutely right about brainiac is long over due and in the justice league action covers a small eps about brainiac that would be nice to see.
@derekgreen7319
@derekgreen7319 Жыл бұрын
I hope they get it right. I'm a dc fan and I would love to see DC really get it right . A proper Justice league or Green lantern would be very satisfying.
@beermanmccool1226
@beermanmccool1226 Жыл бұрын
The problem with continuing from Man of Steel onward is that BvS wrote Superman into such a corner it was as if they were actively trying to _not_ make future Superman movies. Jimmy Olsen? Dead. Lex Luthor? Sucks. Fortress of Solitude? Neither a fortress nor in solitude. Daily Planet? Basically TMZ. Life as Clark Kent? Dude had an open-casket funeral _and_ an obituary. I'm not saying these issues can't be worked around, but I certainly don't envy the writer/director team(s) who have to do the legwork.
@TheLonelyLurker1995
@TheLonelyLurker1995 Жыл бұрын
This is great. What the world needs right now is a good, funny, and very inspirational Superman, not those cringe, boring, and worthless nihilistic satire versions of him. After all, superheroes only exist to inspire people to bring the good and best versions of their selves.
@evanransom
@evanransom Жыл бұрын
I think the best way to take a cinematic Superman in the right direction is a loose adaption of Miracle Monday by Elliot S! Maggin.
@dragongeraldb
@dragongeraldb Жыл бұрын
I feel the franchise should be given to a team (directors choice) and director that has at least a two movie plan and even a few crossovers in mind but after that i would like to be surprised, not the comics shot for shot but something similar.
@M567dk
@M567dk Жыл бұрын
While Directors and Screenwriters have their own creative visions for movies, I also think that the next director and screenwriter to the next Superman film needs to keep in mind of the character and the world that he inhabits in. I mean Man of Steel and Batman v Superman were controversial with how they took Superman into a much DARKER place. The next films needs to not only lighten the tone of the film, Find a balance between one's creativity and the character's history, but also and this is very Important: RESPECTS THE HISTORY OF THE CHARACTER and its supporting cast.
@StareachValcin
@StareachValcin Жыл бұрын
I honestly never had a problem with Henry Cavill himself being Superman. He just needed to be allowed to be Superman, which he hasn't been allowed to do in any of Zack Snyder's films, especially in the Snyder cut of justice league. I am convinced that Zack Snyder is the wrong director for Superman because he just doesn't understand the character. Henry Cavill on the other hand has shown an understanding of Superman, and has been shown being able to portray Superman in the theatrical cut of justice league, ironically enough. I am indifferent about Henry Cavill returning as Superman, but if he's actually allowed to be Superman, I am okay with it. If man of steel 2 can allow Henry Cavill to just be Superman, I would be okay with it. Just let Superman be Superman.
@dataweaver
@dataweaver Жыл бұрын
I think that for the next Superman movie, existing DCEU canon should be respected in the sense of not contradicting any of it; but none of it should be referenced. you should be able to go straight from Man of Steel to Man of Steel 2 without watching anything else and not feel like you’re missing anything.
@jonarbuckle778
@jonarbuckle778 Жыл бұрын
I'd go one step further and make this new Superman film a soft reboot, not contradicting any of the films that came before, but at the same time, you don't need to watch any films prior including MOS to understand this one, a stand-alone Superman adventure that can be the foundation for whatever comes next.
@darthvader5273
@darthvader5273 Жыл бұрын
Imagine they adapt the golden age Superman
@samgreenmusichq
@samgreenmusichq Жыл бұрын
Great video 👌😁
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ReaperXC
@ReaperXC Жыл бұрын
So hard to get a read if Goyer Is a positive or a negative on a project.
@ghoum56
@ghoum56 Жыл бұрын
Superman Up in the Sky would be a fanstastic story to adapt! Plenty of flahsy set pieces and with an easy to follow story which works well for movies. I think the problem with some of these stories is that they can be told well as comic books but as movies they may not work as well.
@wllngtnjhnsn
@wllngtnjhnsn Жыл бұрын
MOS2 should feel like a continuation and extension of the characters arc thus far. It shouldn’t look and feel tonally different from MOS, otherwise it’ll be jarring. So yes them wanting to take the character down a more hopefully route makes sense and should feel organic, their track record of highly saturated films filled with jokes and absent depth would not. In my opinion.
@TomBaconArt
@TomBaconArt Жыл бұрын
I feel like your thoughts would be the same on the next Superman, minus the Shazam or Black Adam tie-ins, not sure if those movies are getting sequels or not.
@ivane5110
@ivane5110 Жыл бұрын
The giant Superman/Captain Marvel comic was so epic. And a much better payoff than the JLA Crisis on Earth-S blink and you mix it "fight" or even the pseudo-fight with Captain Thunder (awesome time to be a kid). But my favorite was the All-Star Squadron one, with a nazi-controlled 1940's Captain Marvel and Superman (Earth-Two) building up to finally a true fist fight over London. No idea what came since '86, but for several generations of superhero fans its the biggest fight debate ever. But, as cool as it'd be, I hope it would be a seperate movie from the upcoming S2; Supes is an icon that I think really deserves a movie to himself showcasing what he truly represents (which I just don't think the recent live action appearances have actually portrayed well). It's something MCU, to my surprise, got extremely on-point with Cap/Steve Rogers.
@powerbadpowerbad
@powerbadpowerbad Жыл бұрын
I LOVE Man of Steel,my favorite Superman film & one of my favorite superhero films. Nuff said.
@ControllerAkimbo
@ControllerAkimbo Жыл бұрын
I will NEVER understand who greenlit the idea to kill of superman in his second film, seriously
@danterose6673
@danterose6673 Жыл бұрын
I think a mix, "What's funny about Truth, Justice, and the American way?", and, "Peace on Earth", would be the best adaptation. To show a Clark that is more altruistic and has villains that question what Superman stands for is the right way to go. Snyder's Superman has so much cynicism that we have to reestablish what Clark stands for. And then once that is established it'll make more sense for Superman vs Black Adam because they'll have clearly defined ideologies.
@StephenLeGresley
@StephenLeGresley Жыл бұрын
As for who should direct the next Superman film. First off don't let Snyder anywhere near it. He's not cut out for making superhero films. It's just not his genre. You need a fun action director with a good sense of humor to pull this off. Christopher McQuarrie would be a great choice. Chris Columbus even, I know people give him crap for not being an "auteur" but who cares? He gave us two great Harry Potter films and Home Alone. Even bring back Robert Zemeckis, he gave us Back to the Future which is exactly what this film needs to be, fun action with a heartfelt story at the center of it. But for me the best choice would be Steven Spielberg, I think he's long overdue for his shot at a Superhero film and he would knock it right out of the park with a visually amazing and fun story.
@ReaperXC
@ReaperXC Жыл бұрын
They relocate to Hamilton, not smallville in Rebirth.
@shwenty1734
@shwenty1734 Жыл бұрын
The Rock forgetting SHAZAM is his enemy sucks
@wllngtnjhnsn
@wllngtnjhnsn Жыл бұрын
MOS came out in 2013, which means by the time we get the sequel it will have been over a decade. I don’t think having his film be a coming of age story for Shazam (with Adam thrown in for good measure) is the best approach. Supergirl would be great however, as she’ll potentially be planted within the universe following The Flash. Clark guiding and offering support to his cousin in this world, and potentially teaming up at the tail end of the film to take on one or more of his foes would be a lot more enjoyable. Kara is possibly going to be an outside to a new universe, much like Clark has always been an outside to the world. They can do a lot with that. Shazam and Black Adam (when/if Superman gets involved) should be saved for a continuation of their respective films, preferably Shazam’s
@mickeymouse7726
@mickeymouse7726 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about the MCU can handle future Marvel movies like how they could fix everything
@nalday2534
@nalday2534 Жыл бұрын
they can't. stopping watching them
@dragonusmorphin4748
@dragonusmorphin4748 Жыл бұрын
I am curious on what you think of the man of steel movie. Not to start hate or anything but I always enjoy your analysis of these types of things and just want to know your opinion
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
It's alright, I've definitely come to enjoy it more in hindsight than I did at first. It's not a favourite of mine, but I think it's a decent film overall.
@StephenLeGresley
@StephenLeGresley Жыл бұрын
In my opinion they need to do a few things to make a successful Superman 2. 1) Recast Lois, Amy Adams just doesn't work in the role and has no chemistry with Cavill either as a romantic pairing or just on screen period. She always looks bored with the role and I think it would be a good way to step away from the Snyder mess going forward. 2) Have Superman fight a villain who's never been in the movies before. Now I know everyone thinks they want Brainiac, but he deserves more build up. Have him mentioned in this film or have his origin shown in this film and then bring him in the next one or save him for a Justice League movie. So I would either go with Mongul or Intergang with Parasite or Lobo acting as their hired gun against Supes. A lot of people tell me they want Eradicator because he was done so well on the TV show but they basically already did his kind of story with Zod in the first film. 3) Make Superman happy again. There's a reason Christopher Reeve's take on the character is still beloved even today. Superman isn't supposed to be a reflection of our times, he's suppose to inspire us to hope and kindness and that needs to be brought back into the movie.
@daryltor7608
@daryltor7608 Жыл бұрын
Definitely agree on the 3rd point
@captain1jones354
@captain1jones354 Жыл бұрын
There are Superman stories that could have been used as a basis for a Superman movie. Same for series of Justice League movies.
@EnzoDraws
@EnzoDraws Жыл бұрын
Why does Henry Cavill look more like Superman in interviews than when he's actually playing Superman? Something about his hair
@sinjinreed2091
@sinjinreed2091 Жыл бұрын
_Superman vs. The Elite_ would basically be the diametric opposite of the _Black Adam_ movie.
@sarfootball
@sarfootball Жыл бұрын
I am happy to see Henry Cavill back as Superman 🦸‍♂️ 😀 😊
@enrk2195
@enrk2195 Жыл бұрын
I think that Lobo or Bizarro should be the villain for MOS even tho I’m dying to see Brainiac on the big screen but I’ll save him to fight the Justice League
@sarfootball
@sarfootball Жыл бұрын
I think MOS-2 movie director would be Mathew Vaughn and writer should be Christopher Marcus and Stephen Mcfeely(Captain America movie Screenwriter) and do a soft reboot in Henry Cavill Superman 🦸‍♂️ and the villain should be Braniac who can challenge Superman ideals and I think Smallville Braniac does it better.....
@fentonstrauss7304
@fentonstrauss7304 Жыл бұрын
either the villain should brainiac or parasite. mongul villain type was already used on grandmaster in thor ragnarok
@holbvgbbbbkfz
@holbvgbbbbkfz Жыл бұрын
I wish John is Canon Snyder cut kinda teased it
@DCMarvelMultiverse
@DCMarvelMultiverse Жыл бұрын
I hope all three of your suggestions are combined into a single film.
@g_air_e8971
@g_air_e8971 Жыл бұрын
this is their chance to bring in the dcau crew to do their magic
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 Жыл бұрын
As much as I love to see Superman vs Msnchester Black, we already have the Superman vs Elite animated film. I rather they just start from scratch after Flash point. A new universe with a new Superman. A Superman who is optimistic, Compassionate and kind. Not whatever Zavk Synder created in Man of steel. Instead of the Elite, why not have Superman be abducted by mongul and forced to fight on war World. The film could explore how both Superman and Mongol are the last of their respective races, and how both were raised into the men they became. Superman's compassion vs Mongul's Cruelty would make for a compelling story.
@ambeatch
@ambeatch Жыл бұрын
I love Cavil as the casting but I don't like Snyder's superman. I hope they bring in Brainiac. That wouod be absolutely amazing if they do it right
@barq6994
@barq6994 Жыл бұрын
Will you every do a Justice League Detroit video?
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
Never say never!
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 Жыл бұрын
I was actually introduced to the character of Braniac through the villain's distant relative, the character who appears in the CW show Supergirl. His first season as a main cast member is one of the best seasons of any Arrowverse show out there (Season 4), and I NEED a live action version of the real deal (who I am now much better acquainted with)
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 Жыл бұрын
The Flash season 8 is great too.
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 Жыл бұрын
@@mayotango1317 I'm assuming this is a joke? (sorry if it isn't, I've just been in the arrowverse fandom too long to assume anything else) But I'm not joking, season 4 of supergirl is actually excellent. It manages to adapt What's so Funny, along with it's main plotline with agent liberty, introducing new characters like Nia, who is not only the best trans representation I've ever seen in media, but just an amazing character with an amazing journey, and fleshing out characters like brainy, whose incredible journey through the season with learning his place in this time, learning to cope with the superhero life (and being fed bad ways to cope such as repressing/little boxes), and learning to fall in love comes to its climax in one of the best scenes in the whole arrowverse, as he goes through a hard system reboot and has to break through his apathetic ancestors to come back into the light. Other than brainy, the elite are amazing, Captain Liberty manages to be sympathetic and also the worst human I have ever seen, Lex Luthor is one of the best things in the whole arrowverse and his master plan rivals Eobard Thawne's, and Kara and Alex's relationship and character arcs are so good
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 Жыл бұрын
@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 I say season 8, no season 7 who is so bad.
@ayoug27
@ayoug27 Жыл бұрын
The Warworld Saga by PKJ is just begging to be adapted for the big screen
@mikeshadez
@mikeshadez Жыл бұрын
Superman takes on metallo! John cobin a intergang mecnarie crippled with a incident I wilth superman wants revenge and lex luthor hires him and forge his body metallo alloy and kryptonite like in the comics I would cast Tom hardy for metallo would be great it is call man of steel after all, people keep saying brainnac I would save him for justice league.
@jgr2637
@jgr2637 Жыл бұрын
Fans should be careful he's not signed a contract yet
@DzustComics
@DzustComics Жыл бұрын
I just realized something. He could easily get the nickname Cav-il, couldn't he? Why isn't this a thing yet? Shut up, I'm clever! 😂
@taker68
@taker68 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call the Collector's Edition Superman vs. Shazam a Silver Age comic, definitely Bronze Age.
@Mike-mx4ll
@Mike-mx4ll Жыл бұрын
Sup vs elite will be great movie
@jspags98
@jspags98 Жыл бұрын
I still say the movie needs to be called Man of 2morrow. Thank you, I will see myself out.
@ReaperXC
@ReaperXC Жыл бұрын
" WB should hire good directors and screenwriters, and not interfere with them. " come on mate. You're better than that.
@pistaalkohol
@pistaalkohol Жыл бұрын
Superman really needs a good adaptation, too many people write him off as the "bland boy scout".
@Ytomany
@Ytomany Жыл бұрын
I feel for man of steel 2 the threats should be scaled back a bit and the movie should be a character piece on superman, I want a story that shows clark and his life we have barley seen clark in all this movies when he is a important part of superman, because he is the real superman, I like the idea of mongol being in the plot I also like the brain washing scene I think that could lead to an amazing power up superman moment with music and everything, him choosing the people in his life on earth and the connections he has made with Jimmy Olson, and lois, what I dont wanna see is another slug fest movie like the end of man of steel. The worst part of man of steel to me is Zodd and superman hitting eachother and doing no damage to eachother. Whenever I think of superman i always think of 3 scenes in all star superman, 1 when he is arm wrestling the dimensional guys, 2 when he is in jail with lex and trying to maintain his cover as superman, 3 when he saves the girl who wants to kill herself by sitting down and talking to her as a friend, and a bonus when he loses his powers and is trapped on a planet having to think his way out. I want to see something goofy wholesome, serious, and badass.
@spookystone846
@spookystone846 Жыл бұрын
I think man of steel 2 needs to focus more so mainly on Superman as having someone like Shazam there might take away from focusing on Superman after not seeing him for so long. However that one with Superman mentoring Shazam would work greatly as a Shazam 3 film. Especially considering silvana and mister mind we’re set up to be teaming up for the future
@nosfonader8792
@nosfonader8792 Жыл бұрын
How will they explain Clark being alive again when he had an open casket funeral and was in the obituary of the Daily Planet?
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
TROS logic: "somehow Clark returned"
@nosfonader8792
@nosfonader8792 Жыл бұрын
@@OwenLikesComics Life Model Decoy for Clark Kent
@joshjones9749
@joshjones9749 Жыл бұрын
I really think Chris Macquarie is the guy to direct the next Superman. Ethan hunt isn't far from the kind of man Superman is. And his morality is tested further and further in the face of modern threats. Chris is already making Superman movies in his own way.
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