How Did F1 Drivers Operate Their 2-stage Clutches? [WITH DEMO!]

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2 жыл бұрын

On the back of most F1 cars are four paddles. Two clicky ones for the gears and then two more analogue ones that operate the clutch, as there is no room for the third pedal in the cockpit.
But how do they actually use these paddles to get the perfect launch with zero wheelspin? I attempt to make a getaway using the clutch paddles on my direct drive rim.
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@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын

They now use a single paddle system, but the dual stage thing is still epic fun to use.

@dragonhunter2271 2 жыл бұрын

I was about to comment. Didn't F1 ban double clutch system and go to a single clutch system but you beat me to it

@ashleycrane415 2 жыл бұрын

The name of the shaft you were looking for is the gearbox input shaft or first motion shaft if you're over 50. Drive shafts go between the diff and the wheel hub unless you're working on a Land Rover in which case they are half shafts. As we are English the shaft that goes between the gearbox and diff is a propeller shaft. Nikita Mazepin is also a shaft.

@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын

Isaac Hayes was also a Shaft.

@F-Man 2 жыл бұрын

@@AidanMillward I got a shaft with your name on it, bb 😘

@eamonahern7495 2 жыл бұрын

@@AidanMillward as was Samuel L Jackson, if I recall

@kzw_gt3 2 жыл бұрын

The drive shaft is the same thing as a prop shaft the words are interchangeable. If it's an independent rear suspension the half shaft is what goes between the hub and the diff.

@tomislavblazevic2742 2 жыл бұрын

Hakkinen always had epic starts as well

@F-Man 2 жыл бұрын

Mika!

@tomislavblazevic2742 2 жыл бұрын

@@F-Man like at suzuka 1999

@F-Man 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomislavblazevic2742 That was just pure Sisu

@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomislavblazevic2742 suzuka 98-2000 every year was an incredible start

@tomislavblazevic2742 2 жыл бұрын

@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Sure, but he didn't have to do so much in 1998, as Schumacher was pushed to the back. And in 2000 he did well, but it wasn't enough, unfortunately. That start in 1999 was decisive for the championship :)

@alexgannon4139 2 жыл бұрын

Now this is some top quality content. I didn't know they were 2 stage

@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын

Two stages up until the end of 2015.

@jamesbambury 2 жыл бұрын

How is all the clutch magic not considered a “Electronic Driver Aid”

@y_fam_goeglyd 2 жыл бұрын

Because they spent a lot of money on it and the teams would rebel if it was banned. That and there's the argument of F1 supposedly being a high-tech prototype formula so things like this would be expected. Just MHO, of course.

@nvstewart 2 жыл бұрын

Because it is for starts only, and doesn't help the driver with actual driving, actual driving in this case is when the car is actually moving.

@vinodvagadurgi414 Жыл бұрын

Best video on f1 clutch work Amazing man 👌👌👌👌

@y_fam_goeglyd 2 жыл бұрын

Terrific ending! 😄 Really interesting video, though. Thanks for the demo!

@joshjmilli 2 жыл бұрын

This kind of video is great! A lot of people are asking for stuff like this!

@DanLaneWowLookAtThisFancyURL 2 жыл бұрын

great to have the demo being shown. always watched your videos, but wanted to comment just to say a big thank you

@ethanpeschman4458 2 жыл бұрын

"if you try to change gears without the clutch in a road car you'll get the horrible grinding noise" Well, not necessarily. If you synchronize the vehicle speed with the gear and engine speed you can shift without a clutch. I had the clutch go out on my truck a few years ago and had to drive it home like that. It takes some practice but if you drive a manual learning how to float shift can save you from a flat bed bill.

@LiamNI 2 жыл бұрын

Seconded. I drove my car from Holyhead to London with a destroyed clutch slave cylinder with the only issue being starting from a complete stop....

@99EKjohn 2 жыл бұрын

Yea take everything Aiden says with a grain of salt, when it has to do with auto tech and engineering. Love the channel but he gets a lot of the small details wrong when it comes to the mechanics and engineering of vehicles. Drag racers, without paddle shifters, shift without a clutch all the time. They have straight cut "dog" gears though, not the standard helical cut and synchroed gear set in a road car, which let's them slam through the gears without waiting for a rev match. Rally cars use the same type of gear set, but have a compressed air system that does the actual gear shift, or it at least use to be compressed air and not electrical. My point being, race cars have basically never needed you to use a clutch to up shifts and downshifts only used the clutch for chassis stability.

@LiamNI 2 жыл бұрын

@@99EKjohn again, seconded, but with a caveat. I didn't read your full comment (cos I'm a lazy cunt, and just pick up on shit I want to (like most other people)). Banging up the gears with no clutch is only cool on a motorbike (I do it as a matter of course, but use the clutch on downshift), or in a full on rally car, cos normally the gearbox will shit itself if not properly prepared for it

@99EKjohn 2 жыл бұрын

@@LiamNI well yea that's why I talked about the gear set they put in race cars and rally cars, straight cut "dog" gears. The whine you hear from a racing gearbox, or a motorcycle gearbox, is because they use straight cut gears and not helical. Helical is technically stronger per square inch, but they are weaker in practice and design. The brass syncros in a standard trans will wear out and/or break too if you just slam gears in a standard car, that's why race boxes use "dog" gears. Oh and technically you don't need the clutch for downshifts either, but then you better be able to rev match almost perfectly, and on a bike you have to match the revs really really fast or your going to have a very bad time since you don't have a neutral position between gears, but it is still possible.

@ethanwhisman5459 2 жыл бұрын

Every time I see that back back straight she came the nightmares come back from the NASCAR race about a month or two ago at Indy

@IBassGaming 2 жыл бұрын

Very neat video. This is one of those things I assumed I know how it works but never bothered to check due to being lazy.

@scabs9137 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man really enjoy your channel, found you a couple weeks ago forgot to subscribe and have been searching F1 KZfaq like a madman to find you again. (subbed now!) If I had one suggestion it would be just for the sake of your videos would be to either remove or get new glasses with anti glare, anti blue to take away the reflection, or maybe move your camera to the left so it's not straight at your monitor and closer to your face? Love the context happy to watch your past videos and see those in the future!

@charlesseymour1482 2 жыл бұрын

Good video learned a lot.

@minibus9 2 жыл бұрын

awesome video

@Professor_GonZo 2 жыл бұрын

"GIVE IT THE FU@*#NG BEANS, (AIDAN)!"

@elliot1111 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Aidan would you ever consider doing a video on team arrows? As despite racing before my time I was fascinated by their orange livery of the early 2000’s.

@kadenlemon495 2 жыл бұрын

That’s something I’ve always been curious about. Like I knew these couldn’t have been automatic but I also knew they couldn’t have been stick shifts because where are you going to fit a stick in one of those formula cars? I never thought it was possible to use the wheel to shift. I have learned something new

@F-Man 2 жыл бұрын

Formula 1 did use manual transmissions all the way up to the early part of 1996, when the Forti team became the last ones to convert to the sequential, paddle shift unit.

@almeidaariel9 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, back in the day there were a small shifter on the right side of the driver but since the 90's f1 cars have paddle shifters

@DjDolHaus86 2 жыл бұрын

As mentioned above they were 3 pedal stick shifts until the early 90s but the cockpits were a bit more spacious then they are now. They were wider to accommodate 3 pedals and the seating position wasn't as laid back, the opening at the top was also wider so you had more room to move your arms around

@kicapanmanis1060 2 жыл бұрын

While you can't see the stick in the video below, you can see Senna taking his hand off the wheel to change to shift the gears. They was some space in the older cars. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdV4pbR2x8DHhp8.html

@AJZulu 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice

@volvo09 2 жыл бұрын

I was curious about this when I heard "clutch paddle" on the steering wheel.

@dragonhunter2271 2 жыл бұрын

Max did the low revs start at imola I think last year (I can't quite remember when it was but I am pretty sure it was imola last year) where he was in second with no revs and he got the best start out of everyone. That is prolly the only time low revs the best way to start the race

@mclarenjohnf1 2 жыл бұрын

Have you moved your brake magic button or have you still got DAS. Another good video. Who stole your superb Pirelli tyres.

@timmypunt3565 2 жыл бұрын

Ah, now I can finally use the APM on the FV2 rim. I was wondering, but hadn't looked into how to use the clutch pedals.

@sharminshabanpour 2 жыл бұрын

awesome

@johnveall6358 2 жыл бұрын

Probably completely wrong, and I know it was the first f1 car with the paddle shift but thought the Ferrari 640 from 1989 was also the first without a clutch pedal or the 1991 fw14? (Been years since I read Mansel's autobiography so probably remembering wrong)

@amaccama3267 2 жыл бұрын

I gotta know. Where do you get closer tunes from?

@ZeGreatStick 2 жыл бұрын

Just a question, how does the car get out of the garage? I've seen Jimmy's video on the same topic but I couldn't get into grips with what he said there. I've heard something called "bite point".

@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын

Engage the bite point with the right paddle and you can pretty much ride that until you’re into the actual lane and feed the second part in. Just with less revving than the starts.

@robertstone9988 2 жыл бұрын

I was raised right foot braking and even though i know its slower i still cant make my self left foot brake when i sim race. Im stuck old school

@mindbendernine 2 жыл бұрын

You haven't fully described what the left clutch paddle does. If the right clutch paddle engages/disengages the clutch (similar to a floor clutch pedal), what is your left paddle doing? Why is it held down until 100m off the line?

@VonBlade Жыл бұрын

The "drop it" paddle (right hand, on the left in the camera shot) is the bite point. The other paddle is engaged but slipping through to fully engaged when released. It's a way of eliminating the need to find the bite point (like you might with a floor clutch when you have an inch off the floor that makes no difference) whilst also giving you the full travel necessary to eliminate wheel spin via clutch slip with the left hand (right in the camera shot) paddle. Otherwise you'd have very little travel on an already short throw paddle if you did it with a single paddle. Right paddle drop clutch, but left paddle feathers to stop wheelspin and eating your tyres in the first 50m.

@lamegaming9835 2 жыл бұрын

imo paddle clutch with paddle shifters > paddle shifters it would be cool if thats a thing in gt racing it might be i dont watch gt racing

@lamegaming9835 2 жыл бұрын

actually i have no idea if thats a thing or is even possible i have no idea how a car works lol

@nathanberriman56 2 жыл бұрын

So what’s the cheapest way of getting this kind of set up? I’m currently using a Logitech three pedal with optional h pattern shifter. I can remember what model it is. It’s the cheapest expensive one (if that makes sense) they make. I really want as realistic a wheel as possible without having to sell a kidney. Also would it be worth investing in a full chair/cockpit that I can attach everything to?

@nathanberriman56 2 жыл бұрын

Oh one more question if I may. Is there a like “beer league” for sim racing? I really enjoy it but I’m quite incredibly crap at it. Think mazapin but even worse.

@adampetten5349 2 жыл бұрын

John Barnard should like this video

@wiggygames7734 11 ай бұрын

Which sim is this by the way?

@JB22. 2 жыл бұрын

Now they have to use only the one paddle while setting off

@TheLockbeard 2 жыл бұрын

Are we going to ignore the fact that the simucube adaptor is upside down? Sorry, I'm a little OCD when it comes to sim racing.

@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын

Once it was all on I wasn’t gonna take it off 😅

@TheLockbeard 2 жыл бұрын

@@AidanMillward At least with the beauty of the Simucube you can adjust the wheel centre. It's also good for you to join the Simucube platoon.

@fuzzy1dk 2 жыл бұрын

wasn't the dual clutch system banned for 2020?

@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын

2016, along with the variable bite point.

@fuzzy1dk 2 жыл бұрын

@@AidanMillward I seem to remember that the rules were tightened even more for 2020

@SadMarinersFan 2 жыл бұрын

Are we going to get another video on if a DDW is worth it? Because that's a big investment to make and I think it could be really useful to have.

@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe. Wanna get into the feel of using it for a couple of months first.

@BobbyGeneric145 2 жыл бұрын

I left pedal brake my road car.

@Roger-fj9ng 2 жыл бұрын

Didn't F1 ban dual clutch paddles a few years ago?

@davidorndorf306 2 жыл бұрын

They banned it for 2016 I believe

@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidorndorf306 yeah they did, I remember Lewis having issues with his starts that year, honestly it was the main reason he lost the title that year that with the Qualifying crash at Baku and the reliability problems

@alaeriia01 2 жыл бұрын

Eevee?

@roryevans4295 2 жыл бұрын

Ps5 trigger style paddles, solves e sports paddle clutches, wether anyone will do it and sell it for less than a 5k a wheel remains to be seen 😂

@DanLMH 2 жыл бұрын

crotch cam XD

@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын

Story time after dark 🤔

@F-Man 2 жыл бұрын

@@AidanMillward Roberto?

@LiamNI 2 жыл бұрын

2:18 - r/confidentlyincorrect The clutch disconnects the engine from the drivetrain/gearbox, not the driveshaft Sorry bruv... Just shitting on you. I genuinely enjoy your content. Don't take it to heart, and don't shadow ban me like oul Fact Boi... 😂