Actually, they're both set in the same world, as it turns out. Caim and Angelus weren't sent to another world; they were just sent forward in time.

@@mb2001 Really? That just makes it even more interesting then.

@@blakewalker94 Believe me, I was surprised to learn that.

@@mb2001 It changes so much just from understanding that.

@@mb2001 diverted timelines, not forward in time. Just before Drakengard 3 their history was exactly like ours, but because they came into contact with other worldly beings, time was fractured into two timelines. One with watches and one without. You can technically say they take place at the same time.

I think it's supposed to be a bitter critique by Taro, the game itself was released just a few years after 9/11, so he was in a pretty grim mindset as is, but it's basically saying how humans always prefer violence and would rather "destroy the immediate threat" than risk any more lives, hence the pilots had no choice but to bomb Angelus/Caim since they had no information that they were actually their saviors

No, they are from different universe, there is no relationship between them.

@@johnfan1015 nope, the nier novels disagree with you there.

@@johnfan1015 You do know that Automata is a continuation of Nier which is a continuation of Drakengard, right?

It's kind of curious how there are many references to Red Eyed beings in both Drakengard and Nier. I mean... In Drakengard there's the Red Eye Disease and how Mana and Inuart when controlled have Red Eyes. Then in Nier there's the mention of Red Eye, the leader of the "Legion" that appears many times. And then there's the Machine Virus... There's got to be a relation there. After all... The God/s of the Taroverse is/are quite the asshole/s.

@@johnfan1015 You are forgetting that Eve from Nier Automata has the symbol of the Cult of the Watchers from Drakengard.

Truly the great mind of Yoko Taro at work.

Actually the shades are separate. The god dying turned humans into salt and in order to oversee and try and replace people they started to make replicants of people...then shades but shades are something else revealed in Nier.

@Egg T because... The "disease" that the Queen Grotesquerie released in the Tokyo of Ending E isn't exactly a disease... It's a kind of substance that forces each individual that comes in contact with it a "pact". If they don't accept the pact, their entire body becomes Salt and remains as a "statue". If they accept, they become kind of crazy servant supermutant humans that seek to destroy all humans and carry the "disease" with them. No in-between option. A 100% mortality "disease". Thing is... Superhuman mutants that can infect other people with the thing are kind of hard to combat with normal weapons because they're supernatural in origin. So to contain he rapidly expanding infection, it seems they decided to just carpet bomb huge areas of japan. Turns out magical particles can't be destroyed with that... So these particles were sent to many parts of the world by the explosions and shit happened....

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Then Emil out here driving a truck

I do love Papa Nier with his baked potato face but I am happy to be able to play through the Replicant version of the game, finally!

Compared to Automata, I do not as much enjoy the Nier story, all that magic crap... Altho there is something in it. So i'll probably play the remastered Replicant. Just because of Automata.

@@eldarius237 For me NIER >>> Automata in almost all aspect besides obviously graphics and gameplay. Did you finished NewGame+ ? Saw all endings?

Brother of Yona was a protagonist in the japnese version of Nier, west release had that muscular idiot instead, no idea why.

@@Naniko its more or less the same but with different MC's and slightly different dialogue (also the remaster gameplay demo is amazing)

Yeah but two fighter jets take down a dragon that just "defeated" a god.....powers scaling is a bich

@@Jeffthecreepyastafan because Magic and Tech are two different things

@@Jeffthecreepyastafan The dragon could have the power to take down a God, but have shit durability lmao.

It takes powerful magic to kill a god, the kind that only a dragon can produce. But it doesn’t take powerful magic to slay a dragon. If a knight with a sword can do it, a fighter jet with missiles can do it.

Well I do like that idea, but Nier takes place a long time in the future. So unless Caim can live as long as Angelus age wise due to their pact I don’t think they’ll meet.

Very glad to hear it! I try my best to explain as much as I can while giving as little away as possible. Can't wait for the remaster, hope you enjoy it too!

Congrats and good luck on your journey!

@Egg T I think they mean linked to Drakengard

THAT is indeed unforgiving. The Flower's rhythm may be easier than the Queen's 40-note chain, at least it doesn't cheat. No invisible notes to hit you out of nowhere, and no screwed camera angles.

Is the flowers considered harder? Aside from bullshit camera angles the original requires more than rithm specially the last combo.

It was June 12, 2003 around 3:00pm when the Queen Beast and Caim + Angelus came to Tokyo

That is intended,that ending was made both as a joke and as a reference to The End of Evangelion

Very happy to hear it :) I would suggest taking a look at the upcoming Nier remaster, as it will probably be MUCH more enjoyable than playing the original Nier, but regardless I hope you enjoy Automata. It's quite the experience!

Drakengard 3 was pretty fun

Thanks for the kind words :)

Good luck on your journey! It's a tough series to get into since it spans 3 generations of consoles but in my opinion it's certainly worth it :)

@@Naniko thanks! It looks like I don't have the original copy of drakengard on ps2 anymore, so hopefully there's a port around.

@@barrythegoon As far as I know there isn't, but you could always resort to emulators if no other option,

Just get an emulator or wait for it to come in current gen

Emulator on pc

Not meaningless, because the science behind Angelus' corpse helped humanity to gain the upper hand in the war, and to carry out a decisive counter attack against the Legion.

@@victuz a game whose main character dies by the end, NEVER HAD ONE in the first place. thus, it's not worth investing in developing characters in it.

@@TrueInvisible yes it is, the point is to tell a story, just look at death note

@@ZaiDrizzleDrop i finished death note, and it gave me headache. also the story and its conclusion are seriously stupid. Kira was never the monster, he was merely the reaper. i stand with him. criminals must be punished.

The word "Rhythm" doesn't have any vowels. Lmao.

@@Kaito_1114 The "y" is used as a vowel here.

pcsx2 is what you're looking for. at least if your PC can handle PS2 emulation

The canonical mainline story order is Drakengard 3, Drakengard 1, Nier, Nier:Automata. Personally I'd say to just watch Drakengard 1 The Movie on KZfaq and play the rest. You can skip 3, as it's pretty janky, but I love it for the characters and story enough to warrant playing.

@@Naniko where does 2 fit into?

@@jihkosmos 2 aint cannon to the neir story line

@@jihkosmos 2 is just a branch of ending A.

Do you mean Drakengard 2, right? You said DG3 twice hehe

@@KashirN7 ....yes. Damn.

The Japanese Self Defense Force

@@dantecrailman8861Ahhh But was The black scrawl spread by the White coronation which led to the extinction of humanity?

@@Hassan06675 Yes, in a sense? There are many factors that lead to humanity's extinction in Nier. The White Chlorination Syndrome and the Legion, the relapse of Gestalts and Nier killing the Shadowlord.

Pretty sure that it was Caim and Angelus that kill the Queen Beast

They are all part of the same overarching story. There is just a lot of time between when each game takes place.

This video wasn't meant to tell the ins and outs of the story, just give people an idea of how two seemingly dissimilar games can be related. I had a very hard time figuring out information on the game series when I was first getting into it so I wanted other people to not have to go through the same trouble by watching a short video.

I understand nether the less this was still a good video I plan on doing a nier analysis soon

It's fine if you don't

it's just a matter of time till ppl turn into salt

The original PS3 version that released in Japan was called Nier Replicant and features a young boy trying to save his sister. When they brought it here in America they made another version, calling it Nier Gestalt, featuring an older man trying to save his daughter. They thought this would work better for American audiences.

@@Naniko Worked for me, I prefer Papa Nier to Brother Nier.

The God of the Drakengard Dimension/World created all of those things allegedly but wants to destroy humanity because of it's free will. In the end it looks like this God succeeded (partially because of Drakengard's ending E that saves Drakengard's world but destroys Nier's.) Humanity dies out in Replicant and is already dead in Automata. Yoko Taro needs to make a game that resolves the watchers story because they essentially get away with everything that happened in Nier with no one in the Nier Dimension knowing about them or their origins or even how to go to the Drakengard dimension to fight/kill them. Edit: Humans should still be alive in Drakengard's dimension since they didn't have the WCS disease.

Before Drakengard 1.

Thanks. That makes so much sense now

I'm sure I have this somewhat wrong but in Shi ni Itaru Aka (Drakengard manga) it's pretty much explained that Manah is a great great granddaughter (or something to that extent) of Brother One. But it is assured that Manah is not actually Brother One.

They're... Aliens... nothing else.

Who are the aliens? As above, just that, aliens.

Better than Automata? I never played Nier, but played Automata for the 1st time a few months ago.. That shit quickly became one of my favorite games of all time!

@@lLIBER4TORl Yeah, I like the original better but if you played Automata first, there's no way you'd like the original better. It has a place in my heart personally

@@personausermike1 I heard they were doing a hd remake of the 1st one I def plan on picking it up.

@@lLIBER4TORl Yes, I'm stoked! I have a NieR collection video on my channel if you're interested

Maso, a chemical element from the Drakengard universe, was harvested from the remains of the queen beast and used to develop magic.

@@Naniko thanks 💃🏽

@@Naniko but if I understood right, its the same earth, weren't they sent to the future?

@@RobbySaiff I dont believe so, its implied (if not specifically stated) that Drakengard 1/3 take place in separate timelines/universes than Nier.

@@Naniko oh i see, and there's is 0 humans now? Not even DNA samples? This dreadful situation makes me so uncomfortable hahaha

😂😂😂

all they knew was that a giant woman fell from a magical portal in the sky followed by a strange person riding a dragon, leading to a huge fight causing massive destruction in their city. They immediately scrambled their defenses to neutralize what seemed like a threat and blew it out the sky. All of this probably happened in a matter of minutes. they had no idea what was going on.

I'm not sure where you came to the conclusion that they aren't related in a meaningful way. They are very related and the events directly tie together between Drakengard and NIER as well as plenty of other aspects within the world of NIER being explained.

It's certainly not a series for everyone. I appreciate the kind words regardless.

@@Naniko the video did do a good job explaining everything. just had to get that rant out and didnt want you to think it was your content that was the problem.

I agree. Just started Nier Automata and fuckin hell I was stuck for 3 hours in the prologue, not because it was hard, but you are required to play the whole thing everytime you died. No wonder these game is so popular with weebs, they have all the time in the world to spend playing just one game and connects all the dots from various endings and shit to obtain the whole lore

@@zul2788 The dots don't connect from various endings. Only one ending is cannon from each of the games. And that's only with Drakengard 1 and 3. Drakengard 2 isn't canon at all, and Nier / Nier: Automata don't have "multiple endings" you basically just continue the story after the credits roll. It's essentially just tradition at this point. None of this is to discredit not liking it, you're totally entitled to your own opinion and that includes not liking it. I'm just clarifying.

Theses games didn't have interesting gameplay till automata and drakengard 3.