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That $10 from OPR not only has all the monthly STL’s but all the ones from the STL welcome pack and all the advanced rules, missions, etc. such great value!

I played LOTR and a bit of 40k in the 2000's then stopped because univ, job... Recently I watched a few videos of 40k games and I still try to cope with what happened during those 15 last years. I was quite bitter to see the whole hobby section that went from "lets take a bit of polystyrene, cardbord and TP tubes and paint it into an awesome ork base" to "buy this very expensive terrain piece, and while we're at it, we sell boards". So when we began 3D printing minis for roleplay games with my brother, I wanted to print a small army just for painting it and that's how I discovered OPR. I just love how the rules are kept simple, it seems like the goal is to just align armies and have short, interesting battles with a sustained rhythm so that players can just share a moment and have fun. Something that looks completely alien to GW right now. Now we're both into it (I, saurians and he beastmen) and we're successfully convincing our teenage friends to brush the dust of their V3-V4 40k / WH (Oldhammer, now I guess) and give it a try in the OPR rule system. Really great to casually go back into the hobby !

Spoke to a GW store manager a year ago about why the Seraphon range wasn't being updated like the others and he flatly told me "if it doesn't sell well we don't really update them," if that's their business outlook fair but ill no longer feel any issue buying from a third party or business whos doing it better

"You have forgotten the face of your father." I KNEW there was a reason Ka had me find Discourse's channel.

As of a week or two ago, One Page Rules is the top miniature related campaign by patrons. 7500+

As a patron of One Page Rules, They are my absolute favorite business around. It’s ridiculously consumer friendly, and affordable. Plus, their minis are beautiful!

"Games Workshop can either get with the times or go extinct like the Dinosaurs" *shows miniature* *pause for laughter*

i just printed an entire dwarf army for $10 in STL's and $30 in resin, a full army that would be around 2.5k-3k pts in age of sigmar. the same army bought in GW plastic would have been probably $600+. $40 vs $600. printers literally pay for themselves with your first project if you are printing armies, and every army thereafter is just the cost of a couple pizzas. once you print, you cant go back, its as revolutionary for the miniature industry as the combustion engine was for the travel industry

I'm a huge warhammer40k fan and I've never bought a miniature. I have over 90 of their books at my house but I've never bought a miniature. The reason I never have bought a miniature is because they are too expensive. If they would make these things cheaper I think they would have a person like me who spent money every month on them. If they made them cheaper and less daunting to get into I think they would have loads of new players.

Gonna need you to come in Saturday… Sunday too… and Discourse not a half day buddy

Love the dark tower reference

It's awesome they sponsored a video from you, you must be extremely proud your hard work on these videos is getting the recognition it deserves! Congratulations, I'm really happy for you!

GW’s best move to survive would be to cut their prices by about 50% and them get in stores EVERYWHERE. Walmart, comic book stores, those stores in the mall that still sell dvds. They need to make up for the cut price by selling waaaay more volume. They can’t beat 3D printing but they can still be the number one premade mini company if they’re willing to change

What I love about the onepagerules models is the way they are delivered in the files. You can get the supported and unsupported, that's nothing new. However, you can print individual pieces of a model or you can print a completed model. A completed model that is already supported. I wish more creators gave their models the same treatment.

Dinosaurs riding other dinosaurs? Mere humans can't handle that level of awesome.

I haven't been the only one, but I've been saying that Games Workshop is facing a paradigm shift. That said, even WITH a 3D printer, I would still likely opt for plastic minis if the price was right. Sometimes it's just more convenient. The biggest fear I have with 3D printing is they start introducing a DRM system once bigger companies start engaging with the space. E.G. - only being able to use an STL a few times before you can no longer print it. But when you get to the point like we are with Ash Wastes, where the cost of a single box is flirting with that of a 3D printer, they're pushing the limits that a large portion of their customers will tolerate. Also, for what it's worth, I love your Twitter. I appreciate that you engage with speculation without condemning without proper sources. You do wonderful work and it's greatly appreciated and valuable to our community

I don't think id even be in the miniature hobby if I didn't have my printer. My taste is admitedly pretty niche so you can't buy the sort of stuff I want at all really (physical or digital) so being able to design and make what I actually want to paint is amazing. I'm currently making an army of flying robot centipedes and having a lot of fun with it XD

It’s so nice to see you have been enjoying 3D printing so much, it really helped me enjoy the hobby

That comparison to the music industry is PERFECT and ominous. Especially for GW.

While OPR has some great lizardmen, I'd say Lost Kingdom has the best ones :D. (they also have a pretty amazing everchosen model in their welcome pack)

Resin cocktail party in discourse's basement, everyone is invited

OPR is literally just the bare skeleton of rules but that makes it quick and easy to have a game. Which is a godsend. The patreon is incredible value and the sculpts keep getting better. I still buy regular models from time to time If I really like those models but resin 3d printing opens up a whole new world of models. One great thing about 3d prints is theres no pressure to paint it amazingly for fear of ruining the model. You could literally chuck it at the wall and print a new one and its not that big a deal.

As a disgruntled customer I have taken to making my own 3D sculpts to look more like Northstar minis. No gods, no masters, no games workshop.

I'm not bothering with 3D printers until someone makes one that's safe to keep in my room. Don't have any unoccupied rooms to put one in. I also just don't like the idea of having to handle and deal with resin. So I just buy stuff off etsy. It's barely cheaper than GW, but at least my rat ogres don't look like sculpts from the 90s.

Also OPR showcase other artists, The Valiant and Vile campaign they showcased got me interested in the Valiant bundle (Eternals) for 20 ish quid and its insane the customisation and detail they have, Best battle mages I have ever seen, OPR are not intimidated by proxy STls and its so refreshing and shows they love their players :) OPR is love OPR is life!

Also, the whole “illicit” thing is starting to leave a bad taste in my mouth. Like, according to who? I know it’s a real phenomenon, but don’t let people ruin your hobby. You’re entitled to print the STL’s you legally bought

I literally lold irl when you talked about how you'd never admit to stealing digital files. I had to upgrade my data cap because I downloaded so many minis I couldn't connect to my VPN anymore for work

"He has forgotten the face of his father" I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE!

Actually you are one of main reasons why I'll be joining the One Page Rules Tier 2 Patreon as soon as my (well, me and my friends) 3D printer comes. Thank you for your content, and I think that you're just what this hobby needs. A wake-up call and hopefully GW doesn't start bullying you around.

Worth a like for the office space reference alone.

Extra points for Shadowrun!

I got to shout out Artisan Guild as well

I just got my printer... BECAUSE of you. The resin has not arrived yet though. (Rubbing my hands together like an evil cultist)

I've been a patron for over a year now and I have almost every model they've released. The amount of models I've gotten for ~$150 is beyond astonishing and it's nearly impossible to go back. Those Duches of Vinci are so damn cool too, never seen an army like it.

Love the Dark Tower reference at the beginning. Keep this content coming, Discourse. We love ya.

I love the Bob Dole hand gestures.

Loot Studios also has a quite nice fantasy/sci-fi subscription as well - you usually get a dozen or so minis, some heros, a big prop, some busts, and terrain pieces for $15/mo

The OnePageRules Patreon deal is better than the price and all the content on Warhammer+

Also: My best guess would be that they bring out a DRM-3D-Printer with stls that can only be printed on these

The Reformation was an excellent example of the Lesser Magistrates Method and Just War Principles.

I’m printing all my BattleTech minis. Even the dropships and vehicles in resin. Then terrain in FDM. Catalyst can supply the one rulebook I need.

You continue to be delightful! Look at those buttery blends on the lizardmen. :P

The genie is out of the bottle and the bottle has been smashed and all the kings men and all the kings horse's couldn't put it back together again.

GW: "3D printers, STL files, are getting better cheaper and more available! quick RAISE the prices! that will get those customers we are losing back" ( underworlds has jumped from $80ish CAD to $120CAD, Thondia was 250 bucks here wtf)

I can't believe it is only $10. I've been a OPR member for a couple months and the new models are very good. Many times better than GW's similar aged range. The Dynasty models are the perfect blend of Tau-like and Asian Influence. I bought the entire beast men range for about $65 at 70% off. Now I just have to print them, paint them and learn to play. >.

OPR announced that May will have 70% off discount for the month of May. Next month they start releasing a new army for Grimdark Future that are four eared sf humanoid dogs. In addition, the Saurians get Pterodactyls.

Can we get some details of the printer you use and some close ups of your finished printed models? Ive bought some from Ebay and Esty recently and the printing lines are clearly visible.

Wow your comparison of how the music industry went through the same thing is eye opening. I wonder if we'll see a full embrace of the digital medium or if we'll see an "Inquisition" (hehehe).

I want a dinosaur with guns riding a do osaur with more gun. That's what I want more. ;)

I don't have a printer myself but I am definitely going full 3d printed models from other sources for my next army. Looking at the altrivun models the totally "not" first born Astra militarum line lmao

"I'm worried for Games Workshop!" I'm not, they belong in the harbor. Let them die. GeeDubs Delenda Est. Long live everyone else.

Has anyone clipped the meat quip yet?

Discourse talks about Beastmen: I sleep Discourse talks about Lizardmen: LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOO! But seriously, OPR's lizardbois are absolutely fantastic sculpts. So good are they (and so poor are GW's) that they are the reason I discovered OPR in the first place over a year ago. I think the only thing I've purchased from GW since then has been a set of Skitarii Rangers, and that's just because OPR hasn't gotten around to working up some Machine Cult models yet. They'll look terrific, I'm sure.

I’ve been thinking about getting into 3D printing…mostly because the cost of terrain is bonkers. What type of printer do you use?

Another great video I'm still waiting on Dwarf guilds and Ratmen/Vile rattus Cult miniatures for one page rules

Dayum, it is indeed very tempting to replace my wardrobe full of grey, unused plastic with a neat, sleek usb drive full of unused stl files. ;) BTW: very nice blending there , Discourese. Keep up the good work :)

Also check out McAngry minis on My Mini Factory for Squats, sorry I mean Leagues of Votan

Now all you need is a crow that constantly sings the “magical fruit” song! “Cah-Caw! More you eat the more you toot!”

Having been around games workshop for far longer than I care to admit I have a slightly different perspective than many might think. I've known employees of Games Workshop in the US and UK. They fired vast numbers of employees and closed stores arbitrarily. They screwed over dozens of experienced employees and managers because they were becoming too expensive (yeah you read that right) they would rather hire a bunch of inexperienced non players than keep the employees that often spend more than a 1/3 of their pay on Games Workshop merchandise and actually know what they're doing/talking about. Added to their numerous times they changed codex demanding everyone buy the newest version (often making players favorite models no longer permitted) forcing the players to essentially shelf hundreds of dollars of their hard earned money, all because they can't properly run their company without screwing everyone over.

$55.47 for a box of two Eldar Warlock figures, that's INSANE! Wizkids has this miniature line called D&D Frameworks, most characters are just under $15! Or you could save up the money that would normally go towards a Forge World resin Titan model, buy a 3D printer and for a few cents print up your own warriors and stuff; a real good deal! GW is going to get left behind!

I sold a 3d print that I modeled and printed this month for 12Euro You have just convinced me that this is the place to spend it :)

Hello Discourse. After seeing this video, I was thinking of giving 3d printing a try. I was curious as to what printer you use?

Forget the printing, irish commoners eating steak is what we should start to worry about. Will they demand shoes next?

how much is a 3d printer with the necessary materials?

GW Boardmember while discussing the upcoming trend of 3D Printing: "Can we limit the number of physical models one can get out of an STL? And while we're at it, let's make having that STL a monthly subscribtion in the first place. This new 3D printing thing is gonna be great for us!"

Yay shadowrun reference!!!

If you subscribe now, do you get any access to previous models?

Been out of GW pay-to-win ecosystem since 2020 totally. And I was a HUGE fanboy, but the rules garbling, the price-hikes and the churning out of expensive books every single month turned me totally off. Discovered OnePageRules back then and been happily playing their rules with my armies since then. Jumped the gun for their patreon in january and have printed every week 20-30 models (so about 450 models since then - 3 complete fantasy armies. Total cost for the files including purchases with the discounts of the backcatalogue: About 150 €. I went through 5 bottles of resin @ 40 € each, so 200 €. My printer cost me another 250 €, and I spent 150 € in accessories. So in total I spent 750 € in 4 months. Less than 2 € per model. But the price per model is going to go down, because the printer and the accessories are paid for already. The more I print, the less my models cost. For 3 freaking armies! Incidentally, I have played more games in that time-period than during the last 4 years. Bye GW. Only downside. My army of grey is growing again. But at least not as expensive, as it was before.

Any advice for a good starting 3d printer?

Nevermind OPRs free and BALANCED rules for playing games with their minis. OPR really captures the extremely large market of people looking for an affordable wargaming experience. It literally has the same start up cost as making paper minis! Games workshop lives in fantasy land that they do not have competition and their prices reflect that. So many companies have proven that wrong in the last few years. Either GW will change or they will lose out and become obscure if not dead as a company.

when i can start doing my own poses on models then i'll consider 3d printing if i can Find a temp stable room to use.

@Discourse: Which 3D printer do you use?

seeing as this is a twelve minute ad for one page rules, I'm very surprised youtube didn't but the "includes paid promotion" tag on the video..

I imagine if GW broke into the 3D printing scene it would be with a proprietary printer that only prints pre supported .GW files that you can only buy directly through GW's webstore. I'd guess they would find a way to make the files only able to be printed so many times(where their proprietary hardware comes in) with heavy DRM and antitampering software.

Love the comedy schtick🦆🦆, combined with solid reasoning, and discussion about the evolution of the tabletop game space. 👍

Discourse got to me... Now im sitting here and tweaking the exposure setting on my new Anycubic Mono X 6k 😁

Honestly once software can auto-support models good enough to eliminate print failures every miniatures company is in serious trouble.

I've been trying to start a new one but my friends won't have anything else a chance. Even tho I bought the SW starter set assembled it all then just refused to try it

We all knew we've been getting screwed over by GWs prices for a tiny portion of plastic. Glorious to see the end of GW's gatekeeping

I specifically enjoyed the “ gunslinger “ reference as well as your opinion on printing . Im not a very handy or tech savvy person and even I can print a slew of stuff from OPR

Err was that a dark tower reference? "Forgotten the face of your father" specifically 😀

What was that stone age clip from? It looks funny.

Hiya! Love the new video and completely agree. Games Workshop has some time before it goes the way of Eastman Kodak, but not much longer. They have to adapt or perish.

I think plastic minis will still have a place in the new paradigm. New hobbyists need a source of minis that don't require an investment in hardware or the skills to use it. If they're just starting out, they may not know if they like this whole "assembling and painting minis" deal. So being able to pick up a plastic kit and paint themselves a warband for a skirmish game is pretty valuable. That doesn't mean Games Workshop is off the hook. Their plastics are way too expensive to fill that niche, at least for most hobbyists. When they're selling 5 or 10 man squads for the price other companies are charging for whole regiments (24-40, possibly multiple boxes thereof), it's just a bad deal for customers. GW exist, right now, in that space where their products are too expensive for new hobbyists looking to break into miniatures, and too expensive to justify experienced hobbyists not just buying a 3D printer and STLs. They don't cater well to either demographic. Nor are they doing what's necessary to change their business model to accommodate new customers. They're focused solely on milking their existing fans for all they're worth. This arrangement will only hurt them in the long run, as that latter group can only shrink.

00:44 ah the ole carrot & the stick treatment! Just like GW does it.

I have no joy in my soul. But then, I play Dark Eldar for preference, so that's fine by me. Embrace the evil!

I'm sorry was that a Dark Tower reference? How dare you make me want to read all seven books again.

This video just tipped me over into subscribing to OPR. I started 3D printing about 3 weeks ago, and I'm 5 patreon subscriptions deep already lmao

As i have said before, the company was doing really good during the "New GW" era - but then somewhere behind closed doors some fat cat assassins took them out and replaced them with some of the old snakes from the old days and started driving everything into the ground again. Why? Good question, last time GW behaved this way they almost went bankrupt and that was BEFORE 3D printing and hot competition lol.

I've been trying to figure out what kind of 3D printer I want, I feel like I want a Plastic Printer, at least to start with, since I think I'd want to primarily print terrain, but I don't know, a resin printer would be very nice, the big drawback is the much smaller printing surface and toxic fumes. Can I get a sufficiently good enough plastic print quality to justify it for minis? Or is it not as much of a bother as I think it is to print large pieces of terrain with a resin printer?

All discourse' double meaning have me chuckling in the bus xD

Big fan of the highland miniature range and their SDL files. If you liked the WHFB style, you`ll love their models.

Well, I have to agree, 3D printed miniatures are the way forward. Something I never thought I would say. Although there are some very nice and cheap injection moulding machines hitting the market. I have completely thrown in the towel with GW's larger games systems, well all, except Blood Bowl as we still have such a laugh when playing. I ordered some 3D miniatures the other week and I'm amazed at the quality, one I thought would make a great larger scale display piece, a quick message to the printer gal and boom, one large scale miniature. Awesome. The miniatures ordered is for a group rebirth of an ancient gaming system called Tunnels & Trolls, yes you guessed it, the British version of AD&D...niiiiiice! The 3D range is breath taking, so much so we've started ordering Blood Bowl scenery ( 3D printed ) to start replacing the GW stuff and I've ordered a new Ork team. I'm now looking a printer for myself so I can just buy the files. Viva La revolution!

I've been hearing the 3d printer buzz for a very long time but never knew much about one page rules and nothing about their patreon centered system.... making me seriously think finally of returning to tabletop gaming and getting a 3d printer....

discorse loves her some meat. lol. great video as always. Even though this was technically a ad it still feels genuine. because it is.

out with the old, in with the new - and then back in with the old because the sculpts are immortal on the internet

I saw space ship models in the vid? those one page too?

Excellent video. Relevant, entertaining, interesting, funny.

Hello my friend... I watched this video Times. And changed my whole hobby focus. Thank you