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How Good Is The AIM-260 JATM? F-15EX vs J-15: BVR Missile Fight | DCS

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Grim Reapers

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@jonatanbergkvist9796
@jonatanbergkvist9796 Жыл бұрын
Grim Reapers videos always make me, the viewer, feel valued.
@FinFunnel68
@FinFunnel68 Жыл бұрын
Vote Democrat or vote Republic…. I vote behind Vallied/Valued/Viewer Party….
@SOUNDWAVEPR
@SOUNDWAVEPR Жыл бұрын
@@FinFunnel68 shut up you god damn liberal in disguise
@debbiestimac5175
@debbiestimac5175 Жыл бұрын
@@FinFunnel68 There isn't an American jet out there that liberals voted for, they derided all of them in industry and D.C. publications, when they were asking for budgets and all through their development, "General Dynamics' Fighting Falcon is just an American MiG-21 -- Here is why it isn't necessary or even wanted by the USAF." Same for Raptor, same for Fat Amy. If you love military aviation there is only one side that has your back... or the desire to provide the best planes and training for our aircrews.
@darkjill2007
@darkjill2007 Жыл бұрын
@@debbiestimac5175 I don't know about that. Killing people is one of the few subjects as a nation we can get behind. The problem is we haven't been salting the earth of nations with air forces. Find some people that can fly and I'm sure democrats will oblige our bloodlust.
@valuedhumanoid6574
@valuedhumanoid6574 Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@hertzwave8001
@hertzwave8001 Жыл бұрын
I'd be really interesting to see a B-1R in DCS, with F-22 engines and A2A capability with well over 2 dozen missiles to spam at the enemy
@krap101
@krap101 Жыл бұрын
Tbh might as well just have 2 f-15ex
@alistairdiren5790
@alistairdiren5790 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes from the old History Channel's Dogfights of the future episode the Rockwell B-1R the Interceptor variant of the B-1B flies as fast as a Raptor too.
@jcadlols
@jcadlols Жыл бұрын
I was thinking cruise missiles as an amraam truck. Would be an expendable way to get a heap of missiles inside excellent parameters in a major air fight. They could be fired from safe ranges (for the B1/B52) and the anti aircraft missiles fired through datalink. The cruise missile could also investigate airspace where stealth aircraft are suspected to be if it had it’s own radar / could leverage the amraam’s radar.
@DanielBrown-sn9op
@DanielBrown-sn9op Жыл бұрын
What air force would even get near that? 8 Bones, 192 Aims?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
I may have a nice surprise for you soon.
@hertzwave8001
@hertzwave8001 Жыл бұрын
this is by far one of the most enjoyable of your videos so far, that modernization you were able to create will make future videos (re-dos or otherwise) VERY interesting, can't wait for more
@hertzwave8001
@hertzwave8001 Жыл бұрын
lucky the game didnt decide to crap itself during this too
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
You ain't seen nothing yet.
@BobH809
@BobH809 Жыл бұрын
You teaze!
@billdevitt4324
@billdevitt4324 Жыл бұрын
Great work on the new missles! @Grim Reapers Man that was a long 4v4, Great missle evasion from everyone! Grand job, Cap & Crew.☺
@emmata98
@emmata98 Жыл бұрын
and now imagine that with stealth :)
@jamison884
@jamison884 Жыл бұрын
This is freaking awesome, congrats Cap and Co. One interesting theory is the JATM or other missile in development (the US has reportedly two or three "next-gen" air-to-air missiles in development - lookup the Peregrine missile for example, a small cheap missile to double medium range carrying capacity or another one is a small/light kinetic kill model), will utilize a portion of the second pulse of rocket power, or perhaps a special third motor in order to fire it once it goes terminal. This would boost the PK considerably based on the theory modern missiles are great, but stealth and tactics will likely defeat long-range missiles without the terminal boost.
@aubreyjphilips9481
@aubreyjphilips9481 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see this video! I asked for a video using the AIM-260 in the F15-EX vs SU57 video, but hindsight reveals a vid on it was already in the works!
@turnerdan53
@turnerdan53 Жыл бұрын
I have not seen it but I wonder about the F35 working with the F15. What I have read and it seems to be hinted at is that the F35 can act as a forward AWACs. If datalink works well then F35's could flank left and right with an AWAC behind to give almost 180 deg coverage to eliminate hiding from the radar. The F15's can launch and run as needed. It is just a thought.
@mickemike2148
@mickemike2148 Жыл бұрын
Just a small cosmetic detail error on the EX model you are using: The small fairing, containing RWR and ECM equipment, on the right tail fin should be as large as the one on the port fin. This is the very first thing I look for to determine the version of a F-15.
@ScorpionXXXVII
@ScorpionXXXVII Жыл бұрын
It's not actually the EX, it's the stand-in C GR is using until the EX is complete.
@SpinosSimulations
@SpinosSimulations Жыл бұрын
@@ScorpionXXXVII Actually it's a stand-in F-15E model. I ought to know.
@RedneckRapture
@RedneckRapture Жыл бұрын
Your human dogfight with these missiles was the best dogfight I've seen in a long time, and I watch some stuff from Growling Sidewinder too. REALLY enjoyed it.
@USSR_Llif3er
@USSR_Llif3er Жыл бұрын
How to defend your AliExpress basket from AIM-260 BVRAAMs
@ashtiboy
@ashtiboy Жыл бұрын
palix ciwis, sea ram's and sm-2s bascly
@frankbarnwell____
@frankbarnwell____ Жыл бұрын
@Grim Reapers. Light scenario suggestion. 1941. Bismarck has survived! At full power headed to Breast, France. ANY plane you like on the Cornwall peninsula loaded with all the dumb bombs, or unguided rockets your plane can haul to intercept. But any plane using Daisy-cutter, or RAF grand slam gets super cool points. And "Luke, you're our only hope ", thingy.
@5Andysalive
@5Andysalive Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call fun or silly videos "clickbait". And i like the mix of the 2.
@BSJWright
@BSJWright Жыл бұрын
There's me thinking the computer is shouting "aubergine, aubergine, aubergine!"... Handy for the supermarket I guess
@conan670431
@conan670431 Жыл бұрын
Now that's a battle :) It was lovely to watch !
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
AIM-260 JATM Mach 5 speed and 180 mile maximum range!👍
@sulyokpeter3941
@sulyokpeter3941 Жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see the rebuilded version of the Meteor missile in action in the game! :D Nice video BTW, and I understand now why you just stopped doing wargames. :D We are the valued viewers! I feel valued in this chanel, actually more than in every other one. Love your videos, love your chanel! I will really considering donations or buying some merch to support you even more!
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
New meteor already made, it's VERY powerful.
@jordandally765
@jordandally765 Жыл бұрын
Great content though! It’s what I expected the JATM to look like as well. But its not two-stage as clarified by the military
@jobadb451
@jobadb451 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work gents! This is exactly what I’m talking about. An AIM-260 should have a longer range and higher PK than a PL-15, as that’s the missile it was designed to out range and outperform. Having designed the first AA missiles and with tons of development and recorded real world data, it’s also understandable that the sensors and tracking algorithms would be better on the US side.
@sergeantklein6026
@sergeantklein6026 Жыл бұрын
I saw this But then I had to go vote. I might have written in Cap, Damp, and Simba on my ballot5t💂🏼‍♀️
@simba1113
@simba1113 Жыл бұрын
lol cap would be speaker of the house lol
@terryweedon8431
@terryweedon8431 Жыл бұрын
Also the F15EX has a reduced radar signature about 50% the size of the F15E. According to Boeing at the official release ceremony. Not that it matters much with 14 missiles on it lol.
@sferrin2
@sferrin2 4 ай бұрын
I about fell out of my chair when I saw this "AIM-260" design. I came up with that configuration years ago and put it out "into the wild". Surprised someone put it in DCS. Mine was based on the 10" ESSM motor however.
@truko5039
@truko5039 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a valued viewer, I’m a named brand visual enjoyer! Get it together Grim!
@greenmountainpokemon2112
@greenmountainpokemon2112 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video!
@DanielBrown-sn9op
@DanielBrown-sn9op Жыл бұрын
F 22s could make themselves "visible" to a large group of fighters, turn tail and lead them into an ambush of long fired missiles
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
yup
@simonallen4791
@simonallen4791 Жыл бұрын
JATM is also slatted to be able to switch its motor off & on as well so you can add that capability to your model👍
@icecold9511
@icecold9511 Жыл бұрын
That would be great for range without making it to heavy.
@angmid9210
@angmid9210 Жыл бұрын
This is genuinely fascinating stuff. Great work
@trentlangford9050
@trentlangford9050 Жыл бұрын
I think that this might change the outcomes of all of the previous missions involving the USAF
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
That;s why we'll redo them :)
@rogerupi999
@rogerupi999 Жыл бұрын
Ouuu, great video. Is it possible for GR to give us a battle between USAF(F-15C, F-16C, and F-22 Raptor) against the USN(F/A-18 super hornet, and F-35B/C) just to see which military branch has the best air to air aircraft?
@OG_Mac79
@OG_Mac79 Жыл бұрын
Anyone here know what happened with the SABOT type missile that was talked about in 2005ish? It was said to be completely new time of dual missile. One large body extreme speed massive missile is launched toward a target, then once it goes so many miles iirc it was over 100 the smaller and highly manueverable missile is released from the carrier sabot missile, giving a large warhead on a small manueverable and fast missile from well beyond typical radar ranges. So it was a missile in a missile. They said it was like using a stealth plane to carry the missile to a good range without endangering pilots. Did they kill it for drones? Hadnt hear a peep since. wish I could remember where I saw the little blurb.
@steveturner3999
@steveturner3999 Жыл бұрын
Do you have the ability to model the F-15’s with FAST (fuel and sensor tactical) Packs to increase their fuel load and if so does it reduce the number of missiles they can carry?
@edwardlittle5686
@edwardlittle5686 Жыл бұрын
An excellent demonstration of why every fighter needs a gun, and why dogfighting is and always will be important
@ZackSavage
@ZackSavage 5 ай бұрын
They should have that backup option, yes. This isn't entirely indicative of where America is going with its doctrine, though. Running this mission again, but with two f-35 or NGAD data linked to the f-15s would give a very different result.
@IRONIC1688
@IRONIC1688 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always! In my humble yet valued opinion, I suggest removing smoke trails from the Fox3s! It's a major tactical factor and could be a hindrance to a realistic depiction of this kind of engagement. Better intercept group tactics can overcome smokeless threats and would make better gameplay for certain. Humble and valued...
@dexlab7539
@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha…in the end all that mattered was Guns 😂
@blindtraveler844
@blindtraveler844 Жыл бұрын
if i was designing these types of missiles id say if: speed to target was aproaching zero and it was within 100m then: point at target and detonate .. even if u dont get a kill u will cause damage from the weapon blast and shot rounds in the head of the missile .. those situations where the missile is like following along side well might aswell do something the explosion from the missile could rattle the pilots at the min or cause leaks or damage to the aircraft
@seaferg5072
@seaferg5072 Жыл бұрын
I’m a nerd because I’ve legitimately been looking forward to this video! 😂
@Bob10009
@Bob10009 Жыл бұрын
People constantly say that dogfights are redundant, yet here you are, even with new missiles, still going to guns…..
@comediangj4955
@comediangj4955 Жыл бұрын
...IN A GAME
@ferrous3262
@ferrous3262 Жыл бұрын
@@comediangj4955 irl missiles arent always going to work
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Yup, that;s why we run these tests.
@Bob10009
@Bob10009 Жыл бұрын
@@comediangj4955 yep and DACT is basically a real life game. Pilots wouldn’t practice WVR combat if it was redundant. Missiles can be dodged, jammed, decoyed and all the time, the merge approaches….
@thebrain7441
@thebrain7441 Жыл бұрын
9:35 Another thing that a lot of people don’t realize is that, yes, even though the missile is smaller and has less drag, it also has less mass. Initially that may seem like a good thing and it is, for the boost phase. For the coasting phase, a missile with smaller mass will slow down quicker than the same missile that is heavier because of Newton’s 2nd law. All in all though I would imagine the reduced drag outweighs (get it😅) the smaller mass of the missile.
@timblack6422
@timblack6422 Жыл бұрын
It’s an awesome day!!
@jamesvanderpoel2135
@jamesvanderpoel2135 Жыл бұрын
Can you guys recreate Kay Campbell's A-10 landing after being hit by SAM over Baghdad?
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone else noticed how The AIM-260 JATM range has changed over the months lol open source information used to state that its range is 180 miles...
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
@@jdo8405 I don't think that is it at all, personally I think it is a Mach 5 missile with a maximum range of about 180 miles... just wonder why public information is being nerfed
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
@@jdo8405 well I think your wrong, just goin to have to wait n see👍
@maxpower7466
@maxpower7466 Жыл бұрын
how is it possible that a bunch of friends does it better than a mega company...i know that are mods and the loft it's not modelled but still a very good job .... greetengs from argentina.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
In terms of development, we are non-profit, we just concentrate on making what we want. No $. No politics. That said. It's important that we still could not do this without core game, so we must support core game and keep it alive.
@emmata98
@emmata98 Жыл бұрын
38:30 nice FOX 3 R60's :)
@funkytownjedi
@funkytownjedi Жыл бұрын
Love the eagle and hornet 🔥🔥💙
@Decrepit_biker
@Decrepit_biker Жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff. How would a flight of 4 Raptor with AIM-260 perform I wonder, or a mix of 15EX and Raptors. Chainsaw the 15s while the Raptors do stealthy stuff.....
@emmata98
@emmata98 Жыл бұрын
It surprised me, that only starting now we will have multiple staged air to air missiles. This is such a basic thing in rocket science
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
yup
@billisaacs702
@billisaacs702 Жыл бұрын
This outfit is turning into a drag club.
@simonb4757
@simonb4757 Жыл бұрын
It may not even be possible to model properly but I'd love to see how a Meteor fairs in this same situation against the AIM-260 with the throttled thrust accounted for accurately rather than as they are modded currently with just a longer burn. My guess is the ability to cruise long distance to target slower and then throttle up at the end and still have thrust so it isn't reliant purely on kinetic energy in the terminal phase is far more valuable in BVR than pure maximum range is. If nothing else this simulation has shown that range is only really valuable if the missile has enough legs at the final moments.
@dtploeg1000
@dtploeg1000 Жыл бұрын
My only complain on this video is the Cap doesnt use TWS
@FlybywireTheGerman
@FlybywireTheGerman Жыл бұрын
We noticed that there is a problem with TWS in longer ranges than 50 NM that makes missiles always miss
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
AIM-260 currently not programmed for TWS.
@dtploeg1000
@dtploeg1000 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers ah that makes sense
@Wpns175
@Wpns175 Жыл бұрын
Hey Cap. Long time no talk. Just want to say that I am so happy you guys are doing well, YOU specifically. Keep up the great work! The AIM-260 is likely not going to be fielded for a while.
@mateen6849
@mateen6849 Жыл бұрын
Please, please and PLEASE, with the new missile technology, I WOULD LOVE if u can implement a war games where the Fujian (type 003) Chinese carrier is attacked by a ground strike from a US base in the that area (probably a base in japan). I would honestly love to see more of the F-15ex, and a ground strike from japan would make good use of the f-15 strike eagles. As for the j-15s is it possible to use the correct Chinese navy skins for the fighters ?, growling sidewinder uses the correct skins lol.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
ok
@MyLonewolf25
@MyLonewolf25 Жыл бұрын
Interesting thought. Imagine a modernized yf-12 with f22 radar and these missiles already launching at over Mach 3
@stupidburp
@stupidburp Жыл бұрын
I am curious about the agility and hit probability at long range. How does it compare to Meteor?
@thegreatboibruh5169
@thegreatboibruh5169 Жыл бұрын
No. Unless it has the same ramjet way of propulsion that the meteor has, it won't have the same abilities. The meteor is legitimately a leap in performance and an engineering marvel.
@fqeagles21
@fqeagles21 Жыл бұрын
@@thegreatboibruh5169 true,the JATM in only the evolution of the AMRAAM D
@USViper
@USViper Жыл бұрын
The highly classified AIM 260 JATM, LREW, hypersonic kill vehicle LRAAM, the compact and fast Peregrine Missiles are unbeatable.
@flossordie2256
@flossordie2256 Жыл бұрын
Next us missile is long range engagement weapon
@apexpredator4666
@apexpredator4666 Жыл бұрын
Off topic for this particular video, but I could use some help. I have installed the Grinelli F22 Mod, and DCS Open Beta 2.8.3 says that it is unauthorized, so it has disabled the mod. I'm pretty sure it is in the corrects folder; E:/Saved Games/DCS Open Beta/Mods/Aircraft. I could really use some help as I am pretty new to DCS.
@patdbean
@patdbean 3 ай бұрын
6:29 have you got a meteor simulation yet? Would be interesting to see that simulated on Typhoon or even f35
@Gabriel_McMillan
@Gabriel_McMillan Жыл бұрын
I am very interested indeed in your weapons modernization program!
@tbe0116
@tbe0116 Жыл бұрын
Everything I’ve read says the 260 looks exactly like a 120. The difference is rocket propellant, electronics, and software.
@armoredpriapism
@armoredpriapism Жыл бұрын
This video suggests EXs in the back to keep fighters low and awacs away, and raptors up front with 120D from above to kill their fighters.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Yup we are already working on Raptor/F-15 sensor fusing which will allow this.
@MRAWESOME22
@MRAWESOME22 Жыл бұрын
I love FlyByWire. Always cheerful and brightens my day
@FlybywireTheGerman
@FlybywireTheGerman Жыл бұрын
Thanks man ❤
@mibo747
@mibo747 Жыл бұрын
wow, what w visualisations
@Ryan-go6id
@Ryan-go6id Жыл бұрын
Then they took a “giant leap forward” nice one
@waynesworldofsci-tech
@waynesworldofsci-tech Жыл бұрын
Interesting modelling. You do realize that now we’ll want you to try the same things with F-16 and F-18 variants.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Already got F-16/18 working with AIM-260 :)
@waynesworldofsci-tech
@waynesworldofsci-tech Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Bloody fantastic. I’ve played the game exactly once - takes up too much space that I need on MacBook for work. Enjoyed it a lot, though it was a bit slow with all the emulation. If I make enough money off my channel and books… You run some really interesting and fun scenarios. They point to some interesting Geopolitical implications, especially this one. Though I have doubts about the competency of China’s aviation sector where exceptionally complex technologies are concerned. There’s also non-traditional sensor systems. There has been some work with claimed success on Gravitic detection. I have a copy of the paper if you are interested. Those could reduce the usefulness of stealth, but not any time soon. You’ve got a fan Cap, thanks to you and the rest of the Grim Reapers for some amazing and thought provoking entertainment.
@jumpingoutofairplanesmentality
@jumpingoutofairplanesmentality Жыл бұрын
@17:17 RUUNN FORRRIIIISSST RUUUNNN 🕳⛹️‍♂️🦵
@chigeryelam4061
@chigeryelam4061 Жыл бұрын
This was interesting. I'm wondering to what extent the final engagement would have been more decisive with a more varied weapons load out, i.e. some medium (AMRAAM C/D) and short range missiles (AIM9X). Perhaps I'm just showing my ignorance of the technology and tactics.
@evanwain1471
@evanwain1471 Жыл бұрын
Great video, great fight
@emmata98
@emmata98 Жыл бұрын
Since it was brought up to me a day ago: What are your guys opinion on the missing FFB on modern flight sticks? I still use a Logitech Force 3D pro with FFB and thought this was standard by now.
@amtank
@amtank Жыл бұрын
The missle range war just makes me wonder about how far a modern telephone pole could fly under a Super Tomcat EX..
@VixMusicProduction
@VixMusicProduction Жыл бұрын
All the JATM 260 needs is datalink guidance, from peer to peer. It can even be guided by awacs
@VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh
@VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh Жыл бұрын
can you adjust the maneuverability in the terminal phase of the missiles ? that's quite an important characteristics and makes a big differences between the missiles
@RiznNuke
@RiznNuke Жыл бұрын
How do you figure? None of the missiles were defeated with maneuvers. All kinematics as far as I can see.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Sort of. We can adjust the weight of the missile body, which affects the manouverability.
@andrewsmall6834
@andrewsmall6834 Жыл бұрын
With this could you please re do Australia vs China with Australia using the 260 and the LRASM?
@speeddemon2262
@speeddemon2262 Жыл бұрын
Would like to see these fights with the missile launch warnings disabled and just the putbill/active missile warnings.
@DripsDrop
@DripsDrop Жыл бұрын
That's how it works, we only get warnings once a fox 3 goes active. It's more humans assuming because we have fired a missile, they probably have as well, certainly for us in the J-15s we knew we were at a disadvantage so we had to be a bit more defensive minded. AI for instance only attempt to beat the missile once the missile goes Pitbull, @13.30 shows this a bit. Hope that makes sense, probably not even answered the question 😂
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
These modern planes have MWS which can detect missiles before they go active. Yes we can turn them off.
@davidnichols8433
@davidnichols8433 Жыл бұрын
Awesome content, how would a conventional air strike, on Iran, by collation force,highly defended, testing a full-blown air battle, via ,drones,fantom radar fighters,basically what "your" strategic playbook .
@jamison884
@jamison884 Жыл бұрын
So Cap, for your conclusion on having more missiles. It's that, plus the US simply gaining range parity. Once they gain the range with China, either equal or greater, it allows the greater experience and training of US pilots to take over. I think we can all pretty much agree internationally, one of the benefits of the massive US air assets and budget for the past half-century (plus) is excellent training combining the most experienced air doctrine and air combat knowledge worldwide. China can copy US training and claim to have superior pilots, but they haven't flown the sorties and gained the collective debrief knowledge (it must be several hundred thousand in total over the past couple of decades).
@AdamSmith-kq6ys
@AdamSmith-kq6ys Жыл бұрын
Re AIM-260 vs PL-15 ... if they're being launched at low altitude through thick air, the higher mass of the PL-15 might actually be an _advantage_ - it's going to have more momentum to hold on to as it ploughs through the low-altitude air, isn't it?
@haosheng12
@haosheng12 Жыл бұрын
11:45 one of them looks less dead than the others
@galaxymyt4834
@galaxymyt4834 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@danielsexton1
@danielsexton1 Жыл бұрын
should try to recreate operation sky shield
@shawnwolf9240
@shawnwolf9240 Жыл бұрын
Only if the US made a missle with the same coating as one of the fighter jets that can defeat the radar. It absorbes the radar so that it can't be seen on it
@tech-comindustries4409
@tech-comindustries4409 Жыл бұрын
Personally I would slow the missiles down to simulate their true time to target if they realistically lofted. Lasering at full speed even if it’s an accurate speed is not a realistic time of flight compared to a ballistic trajectory. The target would have longer to evade and also additional closure time to fire their own missiles. So an accurate ETA is more important at these ranges than worrying about max speed specifications.
@angerissues69626
@angerissues69626 Жыл бұрын
wish DCS would add more weapons for fa18
@jarjar684
@jarjar684 Жыл бұрын
F15EX will be the missile truck for the F35 and F22
@appa609
@appa609 Жыл бұрын
How do the AI's know when to defend? Do they know the performance of the missile being fired at them? How did you code the fire control computer? Is it based on in game testing? How do the AI know when to shoot?
@imza5535
@imza5535 Жыл бұрын
Because it's got artificial INTELLIGENCE. 🤦‍♂️
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Once the victim detects the missile's radar then they perform standardised anti-missile manouvers based on their skill level. Same way a human will defend.
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me the problem with the AIM-260 is its relying on those DACS thrusters taken from a PAC-3 optimized to intercept ballistic missiles, they are good up high where the air is thin but down low it simply doesnt throw as much air around as a large control surface which can grab the air, and so it cant turn very tight.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Yup
@jaxompol224
@jaxompol224 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how well these would guide with a raptor or fat Amy in close doing the data link work but undetected 🤔
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Way ahead of you Tony :)
@randalljones4370
@randalljones4370 Жыл бұрын
@19:10 just before the server crash... did I correctly see a PL-15 'stalled' in mid-flight (as if hovering?) Or was that an early indicator of the server ceasing up? The reason I ask is, you might want to check the computations that occur AFTER a PL-15 is successfully dodged... is it burning ServerPower trying to re-acquire o9r some other (braindead) and useless activity? To save the server, you might want consider having a spoofed missile minimize it's impact on the server by turning off code which attempts to re-acquire, etc when it is a moot point (e.g. energy falls below a certain amount & engines=out & the ground id rushing up.). I dunno, just a thought... trying to preserve server resources for the parts of the sim that matters.
@peenice
@peenice Жыл бұрын
Potato missiles for Potato jets? We will end up with 90s jets carrying 2020s missiles?!
@parithon2397
@parithon2397 Жыл бұрын
The real question is: how well will this tech work if you include F35 (F22 because we don’t have F35) to target the enemy and the F15EX lobs missiles from their track
@veleriphon
@veleriphon Жыл бұрын
Given that a trained fighter pilot would/should defend against a missile, these super long range missiles don't make sense to me. Cost per unit and # carried would be significant limitations. Missile trucks, though...
@bibleortraditions
@bibleortraditions Жыл бұрын
Russia is working on a new weapon as well. The GE-Front-Loader Washing Machine.
@MikeHarrison3266
@MikeHarrison3266 Жыл бұрын
I can't help wondering apart from the aircraft, how many millions of $ did the missiles cost that did nothing apart from fly?
@spoork9443
@spoork9443 Жыл бұрын
my question is what happens to the discarded portion? Do we recover it or let it sink to the bottom of the ocean?
@robotswithgunzlol
@robotswithgunzlol Жыл бұрын
Just a quick point - you keep talking about Mach as though it's a fixed speed. It's a function of air temperature. It varies. On the ground in Dubai the air temperature can be as high as 40-50 degrees C. Top end for Mach there is 360 m/s. Get above around 36,000 though and the temperature is fairly reliably around -56 degrees C, so Mach there is 295 m/s. A delta of 65 m/s, or to turn that into knots - about 126kts, which obviously would be 252kts at Mach 2, and 378kts at Mach 3. Simply guestimating based on the speed is going to get you wildly off base.
@robotswithgunzlol
@robotswithgunzlol Жыл бұрын
Case in point - at 13:28 you described a missile as going "at about Mach 2", when it was 30,000ft and doing 1513kn. At that altitude in a standard atmosphere, the temperature would be -44.5 degrees C, which would make Mach equal to 589kn, meaning the missile was doing closer to 2.56 Mach.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Agreed, but it's too complex to compute "on the fly" so I just use rough averages when speaking on the vids.
@robotswithgunzlol
@robotswithgunzlol Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Yeah - I'm just nitpicking I guess. Still love the videos. 🙂
@ClankerWanker
@ClankerWanker 6 ай бұрын
Isn’t it better to fly straight, let them fire at their max range, then enter the crank and waste their missiles?
@whybag
@whybag Жыл бұрын
Doesn't it make more sense for the 2nd stage to go ballistic at initial separation, and then use the propellant to increase terminal velocity and increase chance of hit?
@michaelwestmoreland2530
@michaelwestmoreland2530 Жыл бұрын
If that modern weapons project pans out, you'll be doing an absolute yeoman's job for the community. Will it be including more than just missiles? Bombs, rockets, guns, ecm, targeting, etc? Sounds?
@jameschristiansen9336
@jameschristiansen9336 Жыл бұрын
Will you make these missiles available to us?
@Drew-sg8oh
@Drew-sg8oh Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about the new AIM 260, could you all do a video on it?
@xenaguy01
@xenaguy01 Жыл бұрын
3:38 _"These missiles are just not that good down here."_ I can remember USN pilots saying much the same thing about SAMs in Vietnam. More than one A-6 and A-7 pilot (USS Kitty Hawk, 1970-72) told me the SAMs had such small control surfaces that they couldn't turn with the US jets, so as long as the pilots could see the missiles' smoke trails, they could dodge them. If the NVA (or Soviets, who supplied them) could have created a smokeless rocket fuel, there would have been THOUSANDS of US aircraft shot down.
@pj23nl
@pj23nl Жыл бұрын
yes "human ingenuity" will always beat DCS AI. also that is an pretty dang low bar
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