"It...will keel".

This thing is a nightmare for your opponents. It just does not die.

yeah, the ghostkeel is I think one of the most battlesuits in the empire

The first box I purchased for myself was the Tau Combat patrol with that Ghostkeel. It actually is strong enough to carry many small games and does feel kind of overloaded with it's stealth mechanics and firepower. It was quite possibly the strongest unit I had for a very long time. However, the Broadsides and Hammerheads caught my eye a little more which downplayed the power of the Ghostkeel in my mind. I tend to build lists excluding the Ghostkeel and focus more on any other battlesuits. You reminded me how important this guy really is when it comes to overall strength.

I absolutely love the tau from a painting perspective and especially the ghost due to it actually looking like a suit instead of a box lol. And now that im getting into actually playing the game outside of my first army admech im absolutely loving them and the broadside

Love the content dude! Finally a dedicated Tau channel! Keep it up!!

So glad they're useful, since I just bought one

You just described my army lol. Shadowsun, max Ghostkeels, max Stealth Suits, max Vespid, (in reserve) 6 Piranhas divided in 3 units of 2, and two units of Breachers in Devilfish waiting behind cover to zoom to where the opponent decides to focus. I am undefeated in 10th and only the Necron player in my group has come close to beating it. I also use the Fusion weapon on 2 of the Ghostkeels because my overall anti-tank is low as I otherwise would rely mostly on the 16 seeker missiles. I also play extremely aggressively, and often even charge with Stealth Suits if it means the Ghostkeel gets another turn uncontested on an objective. The Vespid will drop down next turn to clear up anyway

I very much agree with your assessment of the ghostkeel, I had my first game of 40k recently and the ghostkeel took out maybe 1/3 of my opponents list while only taking damage from two failed hazardous checks

Oh, imma drop 3 of these with 18 stealtg suits, with the new rules imma have some HILARIOUS moments... for me

I’d love to hear your 3 ghostkeel and 18 stealth suits route… just for research

🤔 it's like you're reading my army list and know what I'm thinking of adding next lol

Its just looks awesome and due to rule of cool, i put it in every list xD ...and because i only have the combatpatrol and some pathfinders

you actually described my actual list except I grabbed some broadsides for extra anti tank

Having a great time with this guy's, ghostkeel finally are great but spamming theses tend to make the game a pain for your opponent so normally i run only 1.

yeah I love him he's a cheesy shirt

I’ve been running 2 and it’s been great. I did just get a third though…

I actually got one of these because I expected it would pair well with the theme and play style of the kroot. I even kit based it to look like the Kroot had scavenged a damaged one.

I run 3 😂 plonk them down on the objectives. Pisses my friends off haha

I've always liked Ghostkeel since before people thought they were good.

the smoke keyword is also useless on the ghostkeel, it will most likely always have cover, and all smokescreen does is give the unit stealth and the benefit of cover, it doesnt stack with the current stealth

I have one that I made where it’s smushing a tyranid under one of its feet. I love looking at it

I tried it today and BOY did it tanked beyond my expectations, even after a massive charge on turn 4 it was still up with 6 wounds left

2 Ghostkeels at bare minimum.

It has always been my favourite looking Suit unit. Hands down. Second place probably goes to the XV9 Hazard Suits.

It's great I just wish they had cool synergy with other stealth units

Sooo I only have one I got in a funny trade with someone that's another time though. So yes I find them to be very good like support or flank holders. I remember it was I think late 9th edition early 10? I saw some one at a tournament bring almost that list you talked about they didn't have 3 only 2. The other things that where different was a riptide and a Kroot squad then everything else you said.

I just finished game against orks. I had one ghostkeel. - It shot down bunch of grot tanks. - Then killed warbikers harrasing a devilfish, and tankshocked last of grot tanks. - after that it mowed down three deffkoptas. - And finally massacered gretchin on home objective, allowing me to score no prisoners and storm hostile objective! All that without loosing a wound. I love my Ghostkeel! (But I think that my fusion blaster did nothing whole game 😞)

I normally run 2, as an infiltrator "package" to hold a flanc main obj for basically the whole game 1 is kitted anti tank The other is kitter long range They play as a stand alone squad, contesting a side obj and shoothing mid board. -Range ghostkeel -anti tank ghostkeel - 2x stealth suits for screening - shadowsun. This create a massive issue normally securing one main obj for the whole game

I own three and at least two go in every list unless I am intentionally handicapping myself.

Taking one ina 2k list again Magnus and TSons. We'll see how it goes

This fucking thing - i play against it a lot in combat patrol and it is way too good. Especially with the strat to move 6 after firing? Terrifyingly effective

The all stealth/infiltrators list sounds hilariously mean, yeah I'd run that. Maybe paint them in some Battletech style, call it Ghost Bear Sept or something.

You made a good case for the Ghostkeel, but its main weakness is the meh firepower for its cost. It good for holding objectives slightly away from the main fight using its lone operative, but couldn't Aun'Va do that for 95 points less, you could have Aun'Va and a Broadside for less points that a Ghostkeel which does more damage unless the Ghostkeel gets within 9" and it has the possibility of hitting on 2+. Firepower is its weakness, a great example being 2 broadsides for 20 points more, or the Riptide at only 5 points more. Also after the points drop the Riptide is probably on par with the Ghostkeel for toughness due to having a 4+ inv save, higher toughness & 2 more wounds while also doing more damage with an extra ap and damage compared to the Ghostkeel's cyclic ion raker at twice the range. I think an all,or majority, stealth army would have issues with a poor amount of firepower. The enemy would just meet the stealth army over the mid field objectives and wreak the stealth/ghostkeel units there easily. I think Stealths and Ghostkeel are units to compliment the main Tau firepower not be the focus of the army, but in that complimentary role they are very good. Great video, loving these unit explorations. Breachers (with a cade fireblase) in a devilfish or Solo Commanders (particularly compared to other cheap 80/90 points units or other deepstrike options) would be other good options for a video

Thanks for the great video I use the ghostkeel all the time but I do have a question if 3 crisis suits fired plasma rifles on me would the stealth drone blank the whole units fire or just 1 suits fire

When do you declare the use of the stealth drones?

The sheild drones are just the funniest things ever. Get hit by a knights harpoon and just go "I ignore that damage" . Once is powerful twice a game is just silly

They’re dumb good

In early 10th, the opportunity cost was too high to be worth it for me. It had good durability vs ranged attacks, but low firepower for the points and only 3 OC. You can fire the uncharged Cyclic Ion Raker for 5 turns against a 10 model unit of Space Marines, and you still might not kill the entire unit. If you overcharge, you get a better chance to wound and a bit more pen, but you risk Hazardous rolls and you still only kill 1-2 models per turn. You would have to make the unit guided constantly to have a good chance of removing one unit of Space Marines after 5 turns of constant shooting. The Fusion Collider setup had similar but different issues. Unless guided, it was not likely to do good damage in a single activation. And it needed to be much closer for maximizing the potential damage, meaning more risk of having enemies within 12" to shoot at it or getting charged. An opponent could ignore the firepower and just move up and either engage it in melee or make it retreat away from the objective. It worked great as a distraction against less capable opponents, as they get fixated on it and then you draw them away from objectives or more important units. It is a very tactical piece, but an expensive one. All of the above are still technically true. But now it is only 160 pts for that package. That, combined with other elements of the Tau roster also getting a cost reduction, means more units can be fielded and assist each other. For example: Taking Shadow Sun, a Ghostkeel and a unit of Pathfinders now has enough price reduction(compared to early 10th) that you can get a unit of Tetras(80 pts) on top of that. So now it can have more units supporting it, giving it even more tactical options, and you have more units to make up for the lack of firepower. I will still say that taking 3 is not beneficial. Too many points on something that deals low damage(nearly 25% of your total points) and too much redundancy for the same roles and positioning. One thing I want to mention is that the Ghostkeel is very, VERY vulnerable to most Melta weaponry. Most weapons that get within Melta range is usually 6-9" away, so Lone Operative no longer helps. Strength 9 and above also means that it wounds on a 3+. The high AP make you save on a 6+(5+ in cover). And finally, the Melta damage is an additive bonus, meaning it is one of the last things in the Order of Operations for damage calculations. So even with the special stealth drones(setting damage characteristic to 0), the Melta bonus damage will go through(0+melta bonus).

We better use them fast before space marine fans complain and make GW nerf it like they always do

Meh, they're meta RN and i don't care I just really don't care to use them...like ever. Lore-wise on the other hand, they are awesome, I will just never field them personally.