I just bought a '69 Arrow II. Great little tutorial here while I wait for it to come out of post buy maintenance.

The way the Hershey bar Arrow descends with gear down and full flaps is an eye opener!

Great video as usual Noel! The piper arrow is a beautiful little aircraft! Clean lines and that one in particular looks to be in excellent shape for being over 50 years old! An absolute beauty! Going from fixed landing gear to retractable makes a bigger difference in performance than people may think. Much smoother ride and obviously less drag and I am a big fan of Cherokee and Seneca aircraft for small planes they are my fav especially the older ones.

Love the Arrow. Instructor looks/sounds like he's done this 500,000 times before! CFI's already know what the students are going to 4get, need to work on, ..nothing beats experience for a teacher.

It’s interesting watching somebody transitioning to the Arrow after flying a different aircraft. I did nearly all my training in my Arrow, basically from my second solo onwards so I guess I didn’t have those ingrained habits from a different aircraft to change.

Really takes me back as I used to fly G-AWFJ, a Piper Arrow 180 the same as this one, from Manchester Barton. Cockpit so familiar as are all the checklists.

Nice job. Should really cycle the prop 3 times. First to check the RPM drop, second to check oil pressure drop and lastly to check if any oil is pissing out the CSU after the first two cycles. Also, the inner scale on the ASI is in KT ;)

Nice video, brings me back to my training days back in 1992.

Nice video, Noel - it takes me back. MPH instead of knots, the handbrake flaps lever. My first (you never forget your first) PA28 had all that and a non-standard six-pack, the instruments were everywhere that they shouldn't be. I have a photo of it on my wall to remind me. I got out of there real quick! 🤔 The bald-head headphone pad had me chuckling. 😁 Never seen one before.

Always look forward to these flying video . You are a true inspiration and I hope one day I might be able to get a pilots license

I did almost all my CPL hour building in that plane! She’s an absolute beauty, still one of the best Arrows I’ve ever flown.

Good timing to get a glimpse of William and Kate

The Arrow is an EXCELLENT flying aircraft! Absolutely love it.😎🇺🇸

Great to watch, thank you.

Great Flying Noel!! ✈️

Msfs2020 Just Flight Arrow brought me here. Thanks for the video. Going to dig into the POH tomorrow.

Looks great! Definitely takes a bit of getting used to!

Great job Noel. The facial impressions of the guy next to you are funny. He smiles only once and all other time I have a feeling he is about to kick you out of the plane. :) Most likely I will have the same face if it was my personal plane and you are renting it. Anyway, great video, learn a lot. The University of KZfaq is always the best place to get knowledge on the topic.

Definitely some great flying, especially with the Runway change while in the circuit. It’s amazing just how much more complex the Arrow is compared to the basic Cherokee from a procedure point of view. I suppose the it would be same going from a Cessna 172 to a 182! ✈️

I’m yet to fly the Arrow, looks a lovely aircraft 😊 great video, subscribed.

Beautiful Old Arrow.

Fascinating how looking at the 1968 PA28 it just looks completely normal. If you look at a 1968 car it would like it’s from a different planet!

Great video

currently doing my complex conversion on an Arrow. love all the 25/25/10s!!

1. The only Arrow I’ll ever fly is in MSFS, but videos like this really help with “the numbers.” 2. You Brits are so awesome with that ‘ol me-for-my, “on me test…” 3. How tall are you? In me fantasy life where I fly a real Arrow, will I have enough headroom??

Brooksy! Met mark whilst I was doing my cpl me/it at Stapleford, absolutely lovely bloke! Glad you had a good flight Noel

Really enjoyed that video Noel.

This is inspiring!

Nice video Noel. The variable pitch stuff does take some getting used to but I love the Arrow! Currently completing my CPL in an Arrow not too far away from you in Doncaster.

Nice job Noel, as mentioned below, suggest cycling the prop 3 times for proper check of the c/s hydraulics. I did the endorsement in one go (couple of hours from memory) so it included the gear unsafe procedures, etc. Also I guess you got a briefing on the W&B which can be tricky in the Arrow - sometimes needing an extra dead weight on board!

Hello Sir...I have been enjoying your pilot videos very much and I have a question. Could you please share the app that you use for flying on your iPad? Also, I have been a long time follower on your other channel. I just enjoy the videos a lot. Thank You very much for the amazing content.

Great content as always. My first complex aircraft was the 200bhp Arrow, which climbed like a homesick Angel. After a few hours, the extra levers and checks just become the norm.

Great video. Looks like the aircraft is in good condition too. I always get told off if I wear the hi-vis inside the aircraft though !

I used to love flying our flight schools arrow. It was an arrow 3 w/ steam gauges and 3 gear up landings under its belt (none by me thankfully). It felt like such a tank compared to the warrior but much more stable in the air. It was a great aircraft for doing complex training however the added weight and complexity of the retractable gear didn’t make much sense to me for anything else than being a trainer. I’d rather have a Dakota or a Cherokee 6 even instead.

The nice thing about the arrows is that if you forget to put the gear down pulling back on the MP below 15” will free fall but always remember to do your GUMPS on final.

I see other instruments moving more than usual and that means vibration. Why? How many hours on the engine? Anyone check the compressions to see how different they are?

How much different is the arrow from a 172? Got my PPL in a 172 and now may build time in an arrow for CPL

What was that instrument down there flickering back-and-forth. Is that your oil pressure? Bad gauge?

4 comments! Never been this early. Either way love the content. :)

Best aircrafts the piper the arrow is just simply the best getting in is a bit of a thing but that is not a big deal because it's about flight and landing and getting in the air is so easy. Best looking aircraft

I've ordered a Daimond DA50 RG...😍 Can't wait to fly it. Love from India 🇮🇳

Hi Noel, have you tried the PA-28R Arrow III by Just Flight in MSFS2020 and if so, how does it compare to the real thing?

First thing pilots say flying the Arrow, we couldn't get the gear up. I ask what speed where you climbing at?

Props forward on downwind? Normally it's done on final

“ thank you for your visit, have a nice flight” wow 😮, I’ve never heard that from a tower 😂 I like “ red, blue , green” a little bit better than gumps We are encouraged to perform two gumps check but to be honest if you do one Gumps implementing and substituting the last gumps check for “ Red, Blue, Green” seems a lot more efficient and safer Red Mixture Blue Propeller Green landing gear

Flew a Turbo Arrow IV for years. Not hard to fly, but the turbocharger had a fixed wastegate which required more attention to manifold pressure when advancing the throttle for takeoff. Loved the 6 cylinder engine and 3 blade prop....very smooth compared to the 4 cylinder engine. The T tail was the STUPIDEST thing Piper did to that airplane....Turbo Arrow III was the best handling one.

I am in the process of buying a PA200r - 200 Arrow. Awaiting the call from the Finance company as I type. Been watching your KZfaq since I started the Journey to get my Licence just under 2 years ago. Great job and i enjoy the bigger stuff as well you do. Reason for the message . I am watching this older video again as I still cant get my head round the Blue Lever but hope that the Arrow is not a step to high as I only got my Licence in November 21. I have 25 hours P1 now mostly in PA28 161 and already done a trip in the normal PA28 from Bournemouth to Duxford (Bucket list thing great day) so longer tripos are my plan espeshally as I live in Bournemouth close to the Channel Islands and France. Do you think the Arrow is worth taking the step now or perhaps keep hiring get more hours before going for the more complex machine?

Epic cool video Noel I look forward to the next one on inflight or this

Best bang for the buck in existence. Landing gear will drop if you lf you loose hydraulic pressure. fantastically simple gear system. engine is the best engine made at the time and you can run lean of peak if you are careful at around 9 gph. awesome aircraft.

Great to see I've just got the Piper for flight Sim 2020. Please do some flight sim videos

What's the story with the flickering fuel press. gauge?

Just as a point of self interest in continued living...one should LOOK at the control surfaces when checking them. :)

Did you find the Arrow drops like a brick and is incredibly nose heavy? The Arrow we used to fly from Tatenhill was glorious in cruise, but you had a workout on landing!

Nice arrow, love to fly them but prefer the C177RG

哇 csu and landing gear

I'm watching what I would call the fuel pressure gauge bounding around all over the place. I have never seen that before and I have over 2,000 hours in a PA-28R-201 1977 model. I am suspect to think there is something going on with the engine fuel pump. I see the electric fuel pump is on and that should have steadied any fuel pressure issues but it has not. I think someone needs to check out that erratic fuel pump pressure before it goes to zero.

The Arrow is a real pleasure to fly, it feels a lot heavier and more solid than a 172 which tends to flex.

The airspeed may also be a bit fast. Sounds like this aircraft is hard to flare

Why are wearing a health and safety vest in the air?

7010. Nice

I noel. Hope you are well buddy. you are doing ok buddy just a matter of getting used to the cockpit .one more lesson and you will be feeling more confident for a solo philip.

Roll your wrist in the flair it will let you pull the yoke back that last little bit

Add an icybreeze air conditioner cooler and you have a personal jet!

Kinda hard to concentrate on the Arrow when there’s a DA62 next door….😮

"AI Traffic in Flight Sim" - I think you just uncovered that this is all a simulation.

The Arrow can be a very fickle airplane to land gracefully

how about some right rudder :-)

Look sorry but I have a few differences here. Firstly in that aircraft RPM is NOT reduced before manifold pressure as your instructor told you to do, but Manifold pressure reduced first. Turbo models differ. If he is giving you those power settings in the circuit you may have problems with other aircraft you hire when you are checked out. 25/25 climb 21/23 downwind and a normal cruise is 24/24 or 23/24 and of course on final, pitch should be well and truly in the full fine position with approx 15 MP. I believe that the instructor may be giving you economical setings rather than teach you correctly. Cheers

CSU and gear. AAAAAAAA

Why “hard”? To my opinion if you want hard(er) try ultralight airplane on a windy day doing standard t n go patterns at 500 feet height landing on a 250m grass strip. I started doing this since recently and my normal GA ppl planes flying feel like a joke.

Hard? NOT! You have to learn how to deal with retractable gear (raise 'em on takeoff, lower 'em before landing. Duh!) and that constant speed prop (24 inches by 24 hundred RPM works well) in cruise, I spent a lot of time in an Arrow, mostly during instrument training. It's a well-behaved aircraft; it does exactly what you tell it to do.

Fuel pressure gauge useless

Back in time is a bit boring tbh...

Piece of piss.. . . Lovely aeroplane.