Thanks Waterfront! Thanks for all the great comments

Thanks Alice - I wanted to disagree but all your points are very reasonable

I do agree that Checo and Max are also pawns in Red Bull politics however I think Max does have some say in who he wants his teammate to be, I don't think any driver gets hired to be alongside Max if it's a outright no from Max. Plus even if the checo contract got signed in the beginning of the year it's not as if he would want to perform terribly the moment it gets publicized. And Checo and Daniel gave Christian support because they know their seats are not secure. Above all else you only say good things about your boss, unless you know he will not fire you. They cannot afford any statement but support the only driver who could was Max Verstappen. And even he did not say anything bad he simply did not comment. The idea that any driver that is not owner of the team would openly speak negatively about their team principal while at the team is career suicide. Plus, "Christian Horner does not like taking risks" is inaccurate. I think a more accurate statement would be Christian Horner has no regards for the rules in play, either in his marriage or his job. Because season after season the one team that has created scandal weather through cost cap cheating, the other cheating, horrible PR statements made by Helmut, Christian, Max or Jos is Redbull. Out of all the teams they are the most openly racist and sexist. And I don't think there are that many intricacies, most decisions and especially big decision in any for profit business do fundamentally come down to does the profit out weight the cost. So it's really a simple decision to keep Checo and Daniel in the short run however its a much worse long term economic prospect if the drivers don't win. Especially after this season of shaming and scrutiny because now all that is talked about is how they are only kept because they bring in sponsors. Fan support, financial support any support is never endless and forever. Ultimately the problems that plague Redbull don't come down to very complicated choices based on a plethora of data points but simply about big egos and hurt feelings. I do like how detailed you were in your explanation even if I don't agree with everything.

@@waterfrontandfalls Much appreciated, excellent counter arguments. Hope we meet again in this space .

That’s without removing 3 outliers which would have put Max ahead in those sessions: Russia (Max gave Perez a tow and went out in Q1); Saudi (Max crashed out on his quickest lap which would have put him ahead); and GB (Lewis got pole on the Friday evening in conditions much cooler than the actual race and quali on Saturday)

@@tyredf1pod You can not look at it from one side. You need to look at the underachievement of the Merc drivers. The pole lap in Saudi was Max taking huge amount of risks. As can be seen in the race the Merc was the quicker car. Max just did an unbelievable banzai lap to try and get ahead which he could not complete. The Merc would have been a quicker car in Spa but for the racing and errors by Lewis. Furthermore have a look at the data for qualifying, if Mercedes drivers have put there best sectors together they would have beaten Red Bull 80 percent of the time in qualifying. Max achieved the theoretical best time of the car more than any driver that season. Lewis was not even n the top ten. He would often fail to put the best sectors together Bottas would be faster in a number of sectors. In races like Abu Dhabi, Saudi etc the Merc was significantly quicker but both drivers didn't get the maximum from their qualifying laps. When it came to the races, it wasn't even close, Lewis made some massive errors, he was only in the championship due to the tyre blow up in Baku, taking Max out in Silverstone and Bottas taking out Max. Hamilton underachievement in races 21 Hungary- The end result showed that Hamilton would have had a comfortable victory if he passed Alonso within 7 laps. At that point with fresher tyres the Mercedes was over 2 seconds per lap faster than the Alpine. Yet it still took Hamilton 11 laps to pass a far slower car that was also on older tyres. I understand the track was different, but Verstappen on fresher tyres passed Hamilton for the championship when he had 1 lap to do so! Turkey- Again we don't have to call it an error but the indecisiveness of Hamilton during that race with a dominant package, cost him points. Again if Max was in that situation I believe he would have passed the slower cars far quicker. Incidentally, I believe a younger Hamilton from the Mclaren days would have done the same. Although Hamilton has improved certain aspects of his driving, I do think he has regressed when it comes to wheel to wheel racing. Maybe having dominant cars for so many years has resulted in him becoming rusty in this area. Mexico Again we can point the finger at Bottas, however if we look at what Ferrari did a couple of years ago, it was the the driver on the second grid position that closed the door. Potential race win lost. Monza I agree the pit delays caused them to be at the same part of the track, however the ultimately were. For me if Hamilton left some room, he would have had far better traction and pulled away on the next straight. Thus he lost points. Baku- Steering wheel error cost him race win France- Faster Mercedes lost race when Hamilton went off track costing him 2.5s, this allowed Max to close the gap and make the overtake Imola: Crash for Hamilton (which at the end had immitted effect) costing a potential win. USA- Merc was again quicker, error by Lewis trying to close the gap cost him the win. Overall Lewis had the better package in 21, the errors and sheer consistency from Max lost him the title. Lets not forget he was only in a position to fight for the title at the end because of the bad luck for Max.

Thank you! Saw you in Cam’s comments too. Amazing to have you here!

@@tyredf1pod Hey ! That's nice ! You really make my day ! See you on the next one ! 😊

One of these 8 is still probably the Mexican Government. But just as the gaps between the manufacturers continually narrows, it's going to look pretty bad on both Red Bull and Checo if he continues to be pretty shit.

It'll be rather funny if Max comfortably wins the driver's championship, and Red Bull don't win the constructors!

Ha! Mate I have a 4 year old. I do the best I can to be a good role model, but when he’s 18 he is his own person

@@tyredf1pod Your comment referred to a child in school, not a adult. Also, don't you think the person he becomex in adulthood will be greatly influenced by his upbring8ng? Values and such, or lack thereof. I have a 30 year old daughter and I definitely see things where I went right and others where I fell short. Very proud of her for overcoming my shortcomings, she is a wonderful woman. Anyhow, sorry TMI. Cheers and gl with your boy.

@@tyredf1pod If you have a few minutes Shez, I highly recommend this week's New Rules with Bill Maher titled Bring Back Trad Dads. Easy search on youtube, a short watch.

Yup - agree with that. Maybe they’re right to be scared…

RB cares more about the Drivers vs Constructors title. Having a driver that takes points off Max is not ideal. They need a sure thing top 5 driver. That could be Perez. Could be Albon. Sainz and others of his quality will beat Max just often enough to jeopardize either of them winning overall. That’s a problem. The other is how much tension having Jos and Sainz Sr together would cause. Definitely not what Max likes.